BajaNomad - US Coast Guard, MedjetAssist & BEMCC

US Coast Guard, MedjetAssist & BEMCC

bent-rim - 1-30-2010 at 10:32 AM

Picking up some maps at AAA, I learned that if you have the upgraded road service plan, I think it's called Plus, you get up to $25,000 in evacuation coverage worldwide. I guess I'll be taking my AAA card to Baja. It with a membership to the Binational Emergency Medical Care Commitee might be an inexpensive way out of Baja in an emergency.
I look forward to the responces to Fishbuck's letters.

[Edited on 2-2-2010 by BajaNomad]

Bajahowodd - 1-30-2010 at 02:22 PM

ACSC V. CSAA?

BEMCC and the US Coast Guard

gatito - 1-30-2010 at 07:45 PM

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As longtime, full time residents of Baja, and having been involved in several evacuations a year...It has been our experience that the U.S Coast Guard will only respond after all other avenues have been exhausted and it is a life or death situation. All private medical evacuation companies must be requested first. Note that private evacuation companies can not fly in Baja after dark and will not fly in incliment weather, many will not land on a dirt airstrip. It is not an option for a private individual to contact the United States Coast Guard. Again, their services can only be requested when there are no other options.

BEMCC is the only real option that "we here in Baja" have...Celia Diaz runs a tight ship and collects pertiant information in a timely and efficient manner. Being a member of BEMCC saves countless precious minutes because they have all your insurance and personal information on file and can proceed with the effort immediately upon request.

It is wise to check with your private insurance carrier (those of us on Medicare would have to check with our supplemental carrier as Medicare does not pay for mediacl emenrgency evacuations), to see if they cover such expenses..if not, you would be responsible for the cost of such a mission which we have been told could cost over 10 thousand dollars depending on where you are and the nature of the emergency.

As you said in your posts "Binational Emergency Medical Care Commitee telephone # and memebership number. This has saved lives. And they will make all the calls for you" and
"I am very impressed with your services and hope to purchase a membership from you soon."

BEMCC has countless contacts and "soon" for a membership is not soon enough. Do it now...it saves precious time.

Here is the email address that you could forward your returned email to: bemcc1@pacbell.net

bent-rim - 1-30-2010 at 08:59 PM

I live in Nor Cal and belong to AAA. I don;t know if CSAA is the samo samo. I'll be in So Cal for a month starting tomorrow and I'll look into differences in roadside service plans. I do remember the AAA representative pointing out the $25,000 worldwide evacuation coverage that comes with the Plus Plan, it seemed like it cost around $130.00 to $140.00 a year for my wife and I. Being self -employeed, almost 55 years old and and spending 90% of my time in Baja on a dirt bike I'm interested in finding a good way to be evacuated out of there. should the need arise..

BEMCC and air evacuation out of Baja

gatito - 1-31-2010 at 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by bent-rim
I live in Nor Cal and belong to AAA. I don;t know if CSAA is the samo samo. I'll be in So Cal for a month starting tomorrow and I'll look into differences in roadside service plans. I do remember the AAA representative pointing out the $25,000 worldwide evacuation coverage that comes with the Plus Plan, it seemed like it cost around $130.00 to $140.00 a year for my wife and I. Being self -employeed, almost 55 years old and and spending 90% of my time in Baja on a dirt bike I'm interested in finding a good way to be evacuated out of there. should the need arise..

gatito - 1-31-2010 at 08:36 AM

Join BEMCC and also check if your medical insurance policy covers emergency evacuation from a foreign country. Then, one phone call to BEMCC is all that will be needed, as she will have all your personal info on file and will be able to start immediatly to help you.

We have a friend who lives in Richmond and has the Plus coverage you are referring to...I actually saw and read the policy, a year ago...when I contacted AAA in Souther California, 6 months ago, in whose area we live...I was told that this coverage was NOT available through them ...they were unaware of such coverage.

Salsa - 1-31-2010 at 04:04 PM

This may help resolve the differences in AAA coverage.

From AAA.com

Travel Accident Insurance: The $300,000 Travel Accident Insurance benefit for all AAA Plus members has been eliminated. AAA Plus members who purchased airline tickets or other qualifying travel through the Auto Club’s AAA Travel offices prior to July 1, 2007, are covered under the current $300,000 Travel Accident Insurance policy. Please note that coverage is based on purchase date, not travel date.

Don

BAJA.DESERT.RAT - 1-31-2010 at 06:47 PM

Hola, thank you for confirming celia diazs' services. i have had her service for about five years but was not informed to provide all my critical information in the event of an emergency.

when i renew this year, i will give her all the pertinent information just in case.

if AAA does provide evacuation services for approximately $ 140.00, it sure would be less expensive than services like medivac or skymed. i'll check into it as well.

how about medical coverage when you are in mexico and have an incident ? i have heard first hand that it can cost up to $ 100,000.00 for emergency stabilization and that is cash up front before they let you into a hospital. then, you can pursue it with your insurance carrier.

great thread, thank you.

BIEN SALUD, DA RAT

woody with a view - 2-1-2010 at 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
That could figure into your planning of your vacation or what level of ricky thing you would be willing to do. And where.

as far as what level and where i MAY be willing to do the "ricky," well i ain't saying nothing.....

bonanza bucko - 2-1-2010 at 11:03 AM

I once was CEO of a $500 M per year business. If I got a letter from somebody like Fishbuck asking me to commit in writing to exactly where and when I would do or not do something I would have my legal department write him a letter full of double talk.

If, on the other hand, I got a letter from somebody who knew how to politely ask what I/we thought he should do to improve his security in Baja I would have my PR department prepare an informative reply.

As we saw the case of the Gonzaga Bay CG rescue last week Fishbuck and some others have a hard time not causing angst by posts which are designed to agitate as much as to get or impart information; they can't resist giving somebody "The Third Degree."

It would seem to be a good idea to gather information, if that is what Fishbuck wants to do, without calling attention to practices of rescue agencies which those agencies would just as soon not advertise on a web site haunted by gadflies who just can't control their inordinate need to stir up trouble because they are bored. For an organization like MedJet or BEMCC to get a letter like the ones Fishbuck has written will only cause them to find ways not to reply....or to reply with legalese.

I once heard about a mosquito floating down the river on his back with a flaccid, viagra induced erection yelling "HEY!!...LISTEN TO ME!!....RAISE THE DRAW BRIDGE."

:lol:

fishbuck - 2-1-2010 at 12:38 PM

My first instinct is to ignore this.
If the companies you are paying money to will not answer what they will or won't do? Get out.
Because if you need them that is a very bad time to find out they won't land at the runway near you or after dark etc.
Trust me, they know right now what they will and won't do. They should be willing to tell you that.

This Bonanza Bucko character is quite amazing.
How can he criticize someone's manners and yet be so rude and verbally insulting?
He claims the high moral ground yet rolls around in the sewer.
My only explanation is the he is suffering from Senile Dementia.
He sneaks over to the nurses station at the old folks home and types his drivel when no one is looking.
Can somone please call the old folks home and tell the nurses to keep him off the computer?

[Edited on 2-1-2010 by fishbuck]

rts551 - 2-1-2010 at 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by bonanza bucko

I once heard about a mosquito floating down the river on his back with a flaccid, viagra induced erection yelling "HEY!!...LISTEN TO ME!!....RAISE THE DRAW BRIDGE."

:lol:

OK you got me. How do you have a flaccid erection?

mtgoat666 - 2-1-2010 at 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by bonanza bucko
I once was CEO of a $500 M per year business.

was that between your first job as prince and third job as princess?
your drivel was as childish as fishy's drivel :lol:

your story is a fish tale or a delusion (perhaps they are same thing).

mtgoat666 - 2-1-2010 at 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
To: Mr Roy Berger, MedjetAssist President/CEO

fishy:
your postings of letters would be much more interesting if you would wait to post letter along with reply.

BOY HOWDY SOMEONE HAS WON THIS AWARD TODAY!

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-1-2010 at 01:57 PM

FISHBUCK YOUR LAST COMMENT WAS F-ED UP BEYOND BELIEF WITH RESPECT TO JEAN'S MOM THAT HAD NO PLACE IN HERE!

fishbuck - 2-1-2010 at 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R

FISHBUCK YOUR LAST COMMENT WAS F-ED UP BEYOND BELIEF WITH RESPECT TO JEAN'S MOM THAT HAD NO PLACE IN HERE!

I'm glad you liked it.

But that was my way of telling Jeans that I am requesting that she stop stalking me. She should have just stayed out of it.
So if you could all just stop taking your cheap shots at me that would be great.
I only fire when fired upon. And I shoot to kill.
Your move A-holes. You know who you are.

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-1-2010 at 02:13 PM

Fishbuck, What I just put in here was not a cheap shot at you. That GIF is for just this occasion. You truly went too far

I for one have never ever commented on your posts other than to defend you during the occasions that some in here gave you some cheap shots your Tijuana visits. Anyway I wish you would remove that offensive post about her mother! For some reason if offends the "F" out of me!

fishbuck - 2-1-2010 at 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Fishbuck, What I just put in here was not a cheap shot at you. That GIF is for just this occasion. You truly went too far

I for one have never ever commented on your posts other than to defend you during the occasions that some in here gave you some cheap shots your Tijuana visits. Anyway I wish you would remove that offensive post about her mother! For some reason if offends the "F" out of me!

Your offense to my comment is duly noted.
Can we please move on now.

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-1-2010 at 02:17 PM

Have it your way Fishbuck!

tripledigitken - 2-1-2010 at 02:20 PM

I'll like to know who it doesn't offend, besides Fishbuck?

tripledigitken - 2-1-2010 at 03:26 PM

I hear what you are saying. But every once in awhile I do get offended by Lawyers.

Bajahowodd - 2-1-2010 at 05:33 PM

It is dismaying that a thread which began with what I would consider to be a quest for the truth, devolves into something so wrong. Maybe fishy had a couple too many beverages of his choice, when he posted the apparently hurtful thingy. Personally, I would have looked forward to this quest for information playing out. But it now seems to me that it will not occur. :barf:

noproblemo2 - 2-1-2010 at 07:36 PM

They sound more like a co-ordinator service to me. What is their comparison of services VS SkyMed?

AAA Facts

bajaguy - 2-1-2010 at 08:44 PM

Sorry to get this thread on track..........

I stopped by the local (Carson City, NV) office of AAA today and obtained some information on the evacuation insurance and other traveler services that AAA offers its members through the enhanced “Plus” and “Premier” roadside service plans.

Emergency 24 hour Traveler Assistance – Worldwide - AAA can assist with medical referrals, legal referrals……emergency messaging, emergency reservations and cash transfers

Trip Interruption Coverage – If the members road trip is delayed and results in at least one overnight stay at a hotel, AAA will provide up to $1000 for Plus and $1500 for Premier members insurance coverage for additional food, lodging or alternate transportation.
You must be on a road trip 100 miles or more from home to qualify.
Coverage is limited to auto travel anywhere in the continental United States,Canada or Mexico.

Motor Vehicle Return Coverage – If the member or traveling companion cannot complete a trip due to illness or injury, AAA will pay up to $500 to get the members car home.
You must be on a road trip 100 miles or more from home to qualify.
Coverage is limited to auto travel anywhere in the continental United States, Canada or Mexico.

Repatriation of Remains Coverage – in the event of a fatality, AAA will pay up to $5000 to repatriate a member’s remains.

Emergency Medical Evacuation – Worldwide – If the member becomes sick or injured, AAA will reimburse up to $25,000 for emergency evacuation. This may include air ambulance, transportation home for dependent children and/or spouse, and if traveling alone, transportation of the person of their choice to join them.
You must be on a road trip 100 miles or more from home to qualify.

I would suggest that if you are interested in learning more about these services, you contact your local AAA office.

[Edited on 2-2-2010 by bajaguy]

arrowhead - 2-1-2010 at 08:54 PM

I just don't understand any of this. I've been reading this board for some time. There are a whole herd of Nomads who have insisted that the Mexican medical system is just as good, or superior, to the US. What kind of an emergency did this poor man have that he could not be treated in La Paz or Cabo San Lucas? He could have been in a hospital in either city hours before a Coast Guard plane could have picked him up and flown him all the way to Yuma.

Does this mean the U.S. Coast Guard has made the decision that the Mexican medical system is so deficient, and the Mexican doctors so lacking in ability, that the only alternative is to spend $100,000 to fly this man out of Baja.

Where's BajaGabacho or that longlegged person to explain this conundrum?

rzitren - 2-1-2010 at 09:15 PM

My two centavos

We belong to Divers Alert Network(DAN). For less then $200 per year our family of four can be evacuated from anywhere in the world. It does not have to be diving related. A few years ago a friend was flown out of Loreto and DAN paid to have the airport open at midnight for the flight.
Rick

toneart - 2-1-2010 at 09:35 PM

I cannot believe that this started all over again by starting a different thread. I went through all of this regarding Binational Emergency Committee/Celia Diaz...and AAA Plus. I also gave the information regarding the U.S. Coast Guard picking up a U.S. Citizen in Mexico....only as a last resort!!!!

Am I invisible here? I check and double check my information. I went all through this last week and posted it here. My life depends on the information I obtained and passed on here. I DO NOT GIVE ERRONEOUS INFORMATION ! My own life may depend on it. I am now on the road. I am confident with my information.

If you do not want to accept my correct information, and would rather have this deteriorate into another stupid, cranky b-tch session, then you are all on your own. Why are you asking questions here and then turn around and get nasty with each other. What a bunch of crap!

Go make your own phone calls and do your own research and stop bothering us with bullcrap! Find another hobby that is more in keeping with your Intelligence level. Oh, I forgot...this is it.

:fire:

bonanza bucko - 2-1-2010 at 09:37 PM

For Arrowhead:

Regarding the evacuation by the Coast Guard last week was from Gonzaga Bay.....the only Mexican hospitals within 200-250 miles are in Mexicali, Ensenada and Tijuana. Yuma, El Centro and San Diego are just as close.

The Mexicans, also, don't have an evacuation capability as the USA does. The evacuation from Gonzaga Bay last week by Helo was made necessary by the weather....it was below minimums for fixed wing aircraft. Only a Helo could get into and out of Gonzaga Bay. There are only about 10 days a year like that there.

Gonzaga Bay also is not a "retirement" community as some on this page who criticized the event last week couldn't get through their thick heads.....it's a remote fish camp at the end of a very bad (probably worst in the world) "road." The houses there are almost all owned and occupied by pilots....mostly Baja Bush Pilots.

We have been flying in and out of there for 35 years and we regularly have carried inured and sick people out. Some of us also carry The Flying Samaritans to the clinics they service throughout rural Baja all the time....these are physicians, dentist and nurses who donate their time to treat people in remote Baja....there is one such clinic at Catavinia near us......the terrain is such that the clinic is a 3-4 hour drive away...but only an 8 minute flight.

People who are not injured seriously and who don't have their own airplane....or access to one owned by a friend...usually drive to a clinic at El Vigel or to San Felipe....that drive can take from 3 hours to 6 hours depending the skill of the driver and the capability of the buggy or truck. Luckily we have some firemen and EMTs who have camps near by. They regularly help with the injured and assess their need for help.

There are a great many such camps on the East coast of Baja. They are nothing like the Gringo expatriate retirement communities further south and at the tip of Baja.

It would be of great help to everyone if the motor mouth pseudo experts and stink bomb throwers who use this forum to escape boredom would understand what is really going on before they started making accusations and asking pointed and unfair questions about evacuations such as the one last week. The ones who made the most unfounded commentaries reside about 500 miles south of Gonzaga Bay and know very little, if anything about places like it is.

David K - 2-2-2010 at 09:58 AM

Good explanation Bonanza... thanks!

monoloco - 2-2-2010 at 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
It is dismaying that a thread which began with what I would consider to be a quest for the truth, devolves into something so wrong. Maybe fishy had a couple too many beverages of his choice, when he posted the apparently hurtful thingy. Personally, I would have looked forward to this quest for information playing out. But it now seems to me that it will not occur. :barf:

I'm just surprised that it hasn't turned into some kind of conservative vs. liberal argument yet.

Bajahowodd - 2-2-2010 at 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by monoloco

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I'm just surprised that it hasn't turned into some kind of conservative vs. liberal argument yet.

Maybe because when one is in the middle of an infarction, one doesn't bother to inquire as to the political party affiliation of the EMT? :?:

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-2-2010 at 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
I cannot believe that this started all over again by starting a different thread. I went through all of this regarding Binational Emergency Committee/Celia Diaz...and AAA Plus. I also gave the information regarding the U.S. Coast Guard picking up a U.S. Citizen in Mexico....only as a last resort!!!!

Am I invisible here? I check and double check my information. I went all through this last week and posted it here. My life depends on the information I obtained and passed on here. I DO NOT GIVE ERRONEOUS INFORMATION ! My own life may depend on it. I am now on the road. I am confident with my information.

If you do not want to accept my correct information, and would rather have this deteriorate into another stupid, cranky b-tch session, then you are all on your own. Why are you asking questions here and then turn around and get nasty with each other. What a bunch of crap!

Go make your own phone calls and do your own research and stop bothering us with bullcrap! Find another hobby that is more in keeping with your Intelligence level. Oh, I forgot...this is it.

:fire:

I read it, I read it Brother Tony. Now I can't find it! Something about you being a member of something and the name Celia came up, etc. Where is your post. Can you post it in here or do I have to taser you Bro!

David

NEVER MIND TONY I FOUND IT HERE IT IS!

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Originally posted by toneart
This is a reminder that Binational Emergency Committee is a very worthwhile service. I am registered with them. The name of the woman who runs the service is Celia Diaz. Her phone # is 619-425-5080. She is in Chula Vista, CA and is well connected with all emergency services in Baja.

You should have some form of membership in an emergency air transport evacuation company. I have AAA Plus which includes air evacuation from Baja, but it is a reimbursement insurance. I must cover the initial emergency pick up with my credit card. You must have that at least $25K available in your credit limit to use your cc.

Celia Diaz has all my emergency contact numbers in the U.S. and Baja, my cc # and my AAA Plus policy number and my Medigap insurance policy #. I carry her card with her number, along with my Mexican Auto Insurance Policy on the dashboard when I am traveling. Her phone number is clearly printed. One call to her and she quickly arranges your evacuation. It is expedient and time saving...one call. She operates 24 hours, around the clock.

The cost for registering is $40.00 per year.

Edit: To find Tony's precious post and to taser him on General Principle!! :lol:

Enjoy Tony!

[Edited on 2-2-2010 by ELINVESTIG8R]

Dave, I Second That

Gypsy Jan - 2-2-2010 at 02:27 PM

NOT NICE.

Unfortunately, there is no etiquette-framed driver's license for the internet.

Debra - 2-2-2010 at 03:19 PM

"Mean People Suck" comes to mind. :mad:

David K - 2-2-2010 at 05:57 PM

Mike, I did NOT put this thread at the top... YOU deleted the posts that started it, and left me at the top with my reply (meant to be funny) about american... Which made no sense after you deleted...

Not need to get nasty... Do you know jean's mom? She is a really nice lady, and a political oppsite of jeans... Begged me to give her my Viva Bush button back in 2004 at the cultural event hosted by Antonio (BajaCactus) so she could maybe irritate her (anti-Bush) daughter.

That's all amigo... just be nice to nice people is all I am suggesting, okay!?

fishbuck - 2-2-2010 at 06:00 PM

Okay.

David K - 2-2-2010 at 06:01 PM

:biggrin:

Debra - 2-2-2010 at 06:08 PM

Fishbuck.............you started this! " Long over"? Own it! I hope your mother is still with you, I just lost mine, and If I was Jeans, I would be in tears/fury with your comment......wait, I was! And now you are trying to tell others it's over and not own up?! Own up to your bad behavior and apoligize!

Debra - 2-2-2010 at 06:54 PM

Oh My Oh my......now you are threating me? I didn't bring this back to the top, you did! "I still barely respect you" Hey, read your comments, it wasn't my Mom you made a hurting comment about, do you read your own posts?
And get a clue............I'm not starting the fight, you are, and I don't give a care that if you want to still "give me respect.....barely"

You think I'm afraid of a fight you are threating me with............bring it on! Maybe keep it to U2U so as not to abuse this fourm that Doug so hearly keeps to be sane here..............,or just go ahead an bring it "on" I'm a big girl, I can take your threats! When you make rude comments about somebody's Mother.........I'm going to object, deal with it, and No, I won't mind my "own f..........., business! you mind your's and apoligize!

BajaGringo - 2-2-2010 at 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
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I like you Mike but you are out of line in this thread...

[Edited on 2-3-2010 by BajaNomad]

Debra - 2-2-2010 at 07:22 PM

Okay.... Fishbuck, When you first started on this board, you were kind and helpful, ......as I recall, you were a "newbie" ( 2006 was it?) with helpful information and a pleasure to this board that many of us had been on for years before you. I don't know what has happened lately, but, you seen to be angry and attacting people that you first thougt as friends, you have attacted me several times not knowing me, not a problem, I don't really care, but. when you attack someone's Mother, you have gone too far.

I don't give a rat's butt.............go ahead and attact me all you want to............apoligize to Jean's for the comment about her Mother. Man up.

mtgoat666 - 2-2-2010 at 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
**************************************.

fishy,
I don't have a dog in this fight, so I am impartial,... your posts really seem way out of line -- you sound like a whack job when you attack people like that

[Edited on 2-3-2010 by BajaNomad]

DENNIS - 2-2-2010 at 08:57 PM

Be cool, Mike. I know what it's like to have a bad day. Beers are still on me.

Patch

bajaguy - 2-3-2010 at 08:06 AM

Check your u2u

larryC - 2-3-2010 at 09:10 AM

Soulpatch
I have been a DAN member for about 20 years, have never had to use their services but I did call and talk to them. I explained that I "travel" to Baja, Mexico alot and would they come and get me or my wife in an emergency? They said that what they need is a doctor to call and describe the situation and verify that the necessary medical care is not available at this location and that the patient needs to transported to a better facility. I explained that baja is "remote" and that a doctor is not always on hand but that I am a retired firefighter/emt and would that make any difference? She said that was fine and that what they needed on scene was someone that could describe in medical terms to their doctors what the medical emergency was and also what medical services are available at that location.
I felt much better about being a DAN member after that conversation. I hope you check it out for yourself and let me know what they tell you.
They also said that if evacuation is necessary they will contact one of the local services that they deal with and dispatch them. Of course the plane cannot land at an unlighted field after dark, and depending on the type of plane that is sent down they may not be able to use a dirt strip, so all that type of info needs to be told to them before they fly down so they can send the proper type of plane for the conditions.
Here is their website: http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/
Let me know what you find out.
Larry
PS this is from their website:

MEDICAL ASSISTANCE

Emergency Evacuation and Repatriation
Covers up to a maximum of $100,000 per person (if a Family Membership) for an emergency evacuation, or medically necessary repatriation.
Prescription Assistance
Locates and arranges to send medication or eyeglasses when it's possible and legally acceptable.
Medical Expense
Advances up to $5,000 for hospital admittance or discharge deposits.
Medical Monitoring
Work with local medical providers and relay necessary information to the member and the member's family until the situation is resolved.
24-Hour Worldwide Medical Information and Assistance
Provides 24-hour multilingual assistance and consultation along with non-diving related medical referrals to physicians, hospitals and specialists.

David K - 2-3-2010 at 10:27 AM

Sounds great... What if you are not a diver (or not SCUBA cert.)?

larryC - 2-6-2010 at 08:05 AM

Actually anyone can join and participate in the travel insurance. If you are a SCUBA diver and want the hyperbaric facility insurance then there is an extra charge for that.
Larry

David K - 2-6-2010 at 09:00 AM

Great news... thanks Larry!

Evacuation from Gonzaga

3464james - 2-6-2010 at 11:11 AM

I had the opportunity to talk to "Doug" the source of all of this post.
As I said before, some people do not have correct information and either have created it in their mind or received it from an unreliable source.
1. Doug, did NOT have a surgery to remove any part of his stomach, intestine, bowel, lower , upper GI, pure nonesense.
2. He did NOT have a colostomy or a bag. Wikipedia: colostomy bag?
3. He had emergency evacuation insurance, however they would not come get him because of the inclimate weather, high winds, blowing sand ect..
4. The services of Celia were employed and she contacted the U.S. Coast Guard.
5. The Coasties have a rather strict protocol for emergency evacuations; life threateneing, no other srvices available, last resort, ect. Once these criteria were met they dispatched their rescue units.
Doug is very greatful to Cecelia and her group stating: "she must have a halo this big (indicating approximately 3 feet)around her head."
I am still amazed at some of the vindicativeness that appears on tis forum.
Jim D.

David K - 2-6-2010 at 05:22 PM

Good to hear James, thank you!

do you really want to know?

bajax - 2-9-2010 at 03:15 PM

about emergency evacs, binational, this information may crash dougs server, so email me. for dougs protection

bajaonethousand@gmail.com

Quote:

Originally posted by 3464james
I had the opportunity to talk to "Doug" the source of all of this post.
As I said before, some people do not have correct information and either have created it in their mind or received it from an unreliable source.
1. Doug, did NOT have a surgery to remove any part of his stomach, intestine, bowel, lower , upper GI, pure nonesense.
2. He did NOT have a colostomy or a bag. Wikipedia: colostomy bag?
3. He had emergency evacuation insurance, however they would not come get him because of the inclimate weather, high winds, blowing sand ect..
4. The services of Celia were employed and she contacted the U.S. Coast Guard.
5. The Coasties have a rather strict protocol for emergency evacuations; life threateneing, no other srvices available, last resort, ect. Once these criteria were met they dispatched their rescue units.
Doug is very greatful to Cecelia and her group stating: "she must have a halo this big (indicating approximately 3 feet)around her head."
I am still amazed at some of the vindicativeness that appears on tis forum.
Jim D.

gatito - 2-19-2010 at 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by arrowhead
I just don't understand any of this. I've been reading this board for some time. There are a whole herd of Nomads who have insisted that the Mexican medical system is just as good, or superior, to the US. What kind of an emergency did this poor man have that he could not be treated in La Paz or Cabo San Lucas? He could have been in a hospital in either city hours before a Coast Guard plane could have picked him up and flown him all the way to Yuma.

Does this mean the U.S. Coast Guard has made the decision that the Mexican medical system is so deficient, and the Mexican doctors so lacking in ability, that the only alternative is to spend $100,000 to fly this man out of Baja.

Where's BajaGabacho or that longlegged person to explain this conundrum?

gatito - 2-19-2010 at 12:38 PM

Apparently you don't have a clue where Gonzaga Bay is nor do you have a clue what you are talking about.

toneart - 2-19-2010 at 04:19 PM

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The misinformation that Jim lists in numbers 1,2 &3 were indeed originated by some folks here.

As to numbers 4 & 5, that is exactly as I reported it, three times in this string! And yet this story continues to spiral with no apparent end other than the accurate one reported here by Jim. Celia will gladly give accurate information if you have any questions. That is where I got mine.

Go to the source instead of endless jibberjabberjumbalayajuiceinyourjockeyshorts. That has to be an uncomfortable load to waddle around with. <<<<<So let it end with a preposition