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Teo's gang on the verge of extinction

JESSE - 2-5-2010 at 03:02 PM

Someone is killing all of Teos people in TJ.

bajabass - 2-5-2010 at 03:13 PM

Great, I hope they keep up the good work. Maybe a less violent sect is preparing to take over. This bad press is not favorable for :light:

the business.

Woooosh - 2-5-2010 at 03:37 PM

I read that one of Teo's top people ( a lady) was kidnapped from Agua Calientes Blvd yesterday. Bet she had a rough night and a worse day today...

Big deal

Dave - 2-5-2010 at 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
Someone is killing all of Teos people in TJ.

I'm interested in who's gonna kill the killers. :rolleyes:

Donjulio - 2-5-2010 at 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by bajabass
Great, I hope they keep up the good work. Maybe a less violent sect is preparing to take over. This bad press is not favorable for :light:

the business.

Did you really just say that?

k-rico - 2-5-2010 at 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Dave

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Originally posted by JESSE
Someone is killing all of Teos people in TJ.

I'm interested in who's gonna kill the killers. :rolleyes:

Enough cops have been killed in TJ, let them do their work with the new info they've "convinced" Teo and the soupmaker to give them.

bajabass - 2-6-2010 at 09:07 AM

Drugs have been big business in Mexico for decades. I doubt it will ever cease being a fact. That said, all of the violence throughout Mexico has become a serious eyesore to the rest of the world. I truly hope that the elimination of Teo's people is a joint effort between government agencies. Snowballs chance in Hell, but a chance none the less. Most likely it is new people getting set to take over the operation. Possibly some people that know that staying under the radar is a much easier way to run an illegal venture. The wholesale murder going on now, was almost unheard of, and the attention was all about finding the drugs on the way in, not the murderous bastards really running the show! If the drugs don't go away, and they won't, maybe someone will be smart enough to go back to the old way! I wish they would all drop dead, and the people I know and love could go back to a life where they don't have to worry about getting shot in the crossfire of narcos every time they head out of the house. My wife and I have friends and family that live from the border, all the way to San Quintin. Those people, and the rest of the honest, hard working citizens and visitors deserve not to live in a war zone. So yes Donjulio, I just said that, a knee jerk reaction to Jesse's post. :fire:

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-6-2010 at 09:18 AM

noproblemo2 - 2-6-2010 at 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by Dave

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Originally posted by JESSE
Someone is killing all of Teos people in TJ.

I'm interested in who's gonna kill the killers. :rolleyes:

I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully, yet whoever does could be even worse.

Woooosh - 2-7-2010 at 11:01 AM

I'm hoping the investigation will head up to Baja Norte next. Teo spent a lot of time here in Rosarito Beach. He wasn't afraid to be out an about here either.

DENNIS - 2-7-2010 at 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by bajajazz
John -- what's the story on the connection to Mara Salvatrucha, and which one of these bozos in the Governor's cabinet is alleged to be a member of it?

Have these guys become presentable? They're pretty scummy looking, tatooed faces and all. Hard to imagine a cabinet member looking like that.

Bajahowodd - 2-7-2010 at 12:55 PM

Stupid question time. Why did Antonio Alcantar fly to TJ with that letter? Would it not make more sense to go to DF?

JESSE - 2-8-2010 at 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by audiobaja
Bajajazz,

I think you are referring to this -

"12 .- On the Origin of the Secretary General of Government Luis Armando Diaz, this has been properly cleared at all times to the immigration authorities, giving birth on November 6, 1965 in Tepic, Nayarit. Prior to the General Secretariat of Government, Luis Armando Diaz chaired the H. IX Ayuntamiento de Los Cabos and was local deputy for the district VII, with head in San Jose del Cabo, serving also between 1999 and 2002 as Secretary General of H. VII City of Los Cabos."

He was accused of being from El Salvador. Don't know if it's true, but with this government, anything is possible. Most anything can be faked here fairly easily.

BTW, if I am remembering right and you're selling a VW Combi (bus), PM me.

John,

Are you a Mexican citizen?

JESSE - 2-8-2010 at 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by audiobaja
No, but there's a guy down the street that says he can make me one for $100

Just tought you should know, your technically breaking the law, all it would take is someone filing a report on you and you could be deported.

Woooosh - 2-8-2010 at 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by audiobaja
Mmmm, I'm here legally. Or are you saying that I'm not allowed to comment on the news like everyone else does here? That comes across more as a threat than a friendly advice.

Everyone in La Paz is on edge. They went from detached observers of the drug trade to front and center of it. Give Jesse a break for a few days at least. No one doubts false papers can be drawn up with ease- it's just not the direction we hope Mexico is still headed.

JESSE - 2-8-2010 at 10:45 AM

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I am saying you been here for about a year, you don't know how things run around here, and you obviously don't know that it is ilegal for a non Mexican citizen to get involved in domestic politics.

I personally don't care if you do or not get into trouble, but your leaving yourself exposed to others.

remember you got kicked out from la paz group for the same thing.

JESSE - 2-8-2010 at 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by audiobaja
No, I'm out. I don't see the "peace and love" here when people start threatening me and my family. It was just for diversion during these slow times anyway. Bye guys.

You see? you don't know what your talking about. Nobody is threatening anybody, i am just poiting out to you that your comments here could easily be interpreted as meddling in domestic politics, and obviously land you in trouble. Not by me, i am actually giving you a heads up so you don't expose yourself to anything, but i guess i should of just shut my mouth and let you find trouble on your own.

:rolleyes:

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-8-2010 at 11:00 AM

AudioBaja, You, do not have to leave Baja Nomad. Just be careful what you say about Mexicans because you are a foreigner someone could turn you in if they think you are breaking the law. Jesse may have a point. Mexicans come on here and see what is written. Just be careful.

longlegsinlapaz - 2-8-2010 at 11:09 AM

audiobaja, you must be having a tough morning! I didn't read Jesses' post as a threat at all....I read it as he just explained it...simply a friendly heads up on the factual legalities of non-Mexican citizens getting "involved" in Mexican politics. You gotta be having a really tough morning to have construed a friendly heads-up as a threat to you or your family! :no:

tripledigitken - 2-8-2010 at 11:13 AM

This topic comes up from time to time. In one of the mining threads a caution was raised to Gringos wanting to get involved in demonstrations against the mines.

I read it as just a caution as well.

No reason to quit BN audiobaja.

Ken

Woooosh - 2-8-2010 at 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
AudioBaja, You, do not have to leave Baja Nomad. Just be careful what you say about Mexicans because you are a foreigner someone could turn you in if they think you are breaking the law. Jesse may have a point. Mexicans come on here and see what is written. Just be careful.

Interesting topic. Not a particularly good one- just interesting. It went from trying to obtaining papers for $100 to threats of domestic meddling pretty quickly.

Is BajaNomads a Mexican or USA based blog? What if you post from the USA? If you post from the USA to a USA blog- how does it become illegal protesting within Mexico? Because someone in Mexico reads it? Even if you post from Mexico to a USA blog- I doubt it could be considered protesting within Mexico. Are blog posts on Nomads even considered political meddling? Suppression is oppression. You think the Chinese are threatening US bloggers with Chinese prosecution if you criticize them? JMHO though...

I fully agree Americans shouldn't participate in public political protests within Mexico. But why would anyone want to? We created a constitution over 200 years ago that dealt with this and most Americans cherish those rights. In 50 years Mexico may be where the USA was 200 years ago- if they are lucky.

Doug?

[Edited on 2-8-2010 by Woooosh]

Eugenio - 2-8-2010 at 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by JESSE

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Originally posted by audiobaja
No, I'm out. I don't see the "peace and love" here when people start threatening me and my family. It was just for diversion during these slow times anyway. Bye guys.

This is a funny (interesting) exchange. I've always likened the nomad forums as kind of like chatting in a pub in Mexico ...there are certain themes that you just don't discuss - like politics and narcos...nothing good is going to come out of it.

But for me it has nothing to do with what anybody is going to do LEGALLY - in fact that angle would be the least of my concerns.

Sharksbaja - 2-8-2010 at 11:23 AM

I must have missed something. :?:

Bajahowodd - 2-8-2010 at 11:37 AM

Obviously, audiobaja's posts have been deleted. I'm guessing self-edit. Both Jesse and David make an important and helpful point regarding the restrictions on non-Mexican citizens. It appears that Jesse has knowledge of other activities of this nature engaged in by audiobaja. I doubt that anything done approached the magnitude of the poster child for such offenses, Nancy Conroy. To a certain extent, I don't have a problem with a nation placing some restrictions on the words and deeds of foreigners. I believe that the less strength and history a nation has in its foundational structure, the more likely you will encounter restrictions. I realize that often, folks will move to a foreign country, and make a major financial investment, feeling that such investment entitles one to be able to speak and act their mind.

What I find ironic is that there are members of this forum who either have "fled" or are planning to "flee" to Mexico because they feel that the US political, economic, and social fabric are going to Hades in a handbasket. Perhaps some might wish to rethink this, and stay in the US where they can freely protest with both word and deed.

[Edited on 2-8-2010 by Bajahowodd]

Woooosh - 2-8-2010 at 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Obviously, audiobaja's posts have been deleted. I'm guessing self-edit. Both Jesse and David make an important and helpful point regarding the restrictions on non-Mexican citizens. It appears that Jesse has knowledge of other activities of this nature engaged in by audiobaja. I doubt that anything done approached the magnitude of the poster child for such offenses, Nancy Conroy. To a certain extent, I don't have a problem with a nation placing some restrictions on the words and deeds of foreigners. I believe that the less strength and history a nation has in its foundational structure, the more likely you will encounter restrictions. I realize that often, folks will move to a foreign country, and make a major financial investment, feeling that such investment entitles one to be able to speak and act their mind.

What I find ironic is that there are members of this forum who either have "fled" or are planning to "flee" to Mexico because they feel that the US political, economic, and social fabric are going to Hades in a handbasket. Perhaps some might wish to rethink this, and stay in the US where they can freely protest with both word and deed.

[Edited on 2-8-2010 by Bajahowodd]

Great points. Rosarito Beach actively invited the 10,000 Americans to move to Mexico, but no one needs to accept that invitation and probably shouldn't if they plan on being anything other than a passive resident. Bring your money and shut your mouth. Check your values and civil rights at the border and come on down. I don't think that's in the Baja Relocation handbook yet though...

And now I am wondering... is my pro-Tijuana Avatar illegal? geesh

[Edited on 2-8-2010 by Woooosh]

Bajahowodd - 2-8-2010 at 11:57 AM

No tire basura?

Woooosh - 2-8-2010 at 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
No tire basura?

but the group is called Reacciona Tijuana- a grass roots political organization seeking to empower Mexicans and create positive change. If I join their Facebook group will I be deported? :saint:

tripledigitken - 2-8-2010 at 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd

What I find ironic is that there are members of this forum who either have "fled" or are planning to "flee" to Mexico because they feel that the US political, economic, and social fabric are going to Hades in a handbasket. Perhaps some might wish to rethink this, and stay in the US where they can freely protest with both word and deed.

[Edited on 2-8-2010 by Bajahowodd]

Do you know this to be the case of Nomads "fleeing" to Baja or are you just presuming? Are you just now rethinking about our freedoms here in the US as compared to Mexico?

Ken

BajaNomad - 2-8-2010 at 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
Is BajaNomads a Mexican or USA based blog? What if you post from the USA? If you post from the USA to a USA blog- how does it become illegal protesting within Mexico? Because someone in Mexico reads it?...

Doug?

The bajanomad.com site resides on US-based equipment - currently in Atlanta and San Diego.

Technicalities aside, if you're physically in Mexico and are a foreigner that could be considered as having been "meddling" in Mexican politics - whether online or in-person - you risk being picked up "on the radar" somewhere/somehow by somebody. Seems pretty simple to me - and should come as no surprise to anyone engaging in such activity/behavior.

JMHO,
-
Doug

Mystery no more....

Sharksbaja - 2-8-2010 at 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
No tire basura?

but the group is called Reacciona Tijuana- a grass roots political organization seeking to empower Mexicans and create positive change. If I join their Facebook group will I be deported? :saint:

Yes............well maybe! Don't forget to make sure to include photos, full legal names and addresses, political affiliations, sex, race, religion and most importantly, financial status.... are embedded in your profile....you get the idea. :wow:

Bajahowodd - 2-8-2010 at 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken

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Do you know this to be the case of Nomads "fleeing" to Baja or are you just presuming? Are you just now rethinking about our freedoms here in the US as compared to Mexico?

Ken

On question #1- I have read posts on this and other Baja forums that make just this point.

On question #2- I'm not rethinking anything. There are many aspects to how one perceives their own quality of life. There are many places around the world that offer the opportunity to live a contented life. The US does not hold a monopoly. The US has its 1st Amendment to its Constitution. No one need fear being punished by the authorities for exercising their opinion. But that doesn't mean that some interest group won't make life miserable for you if they disagree.

DENNIS - 2-8-2010 at 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
And now I am wondering... is my pro-Tijuana Avatar illegal? geesh

The authorities have done an exemplary job of terrorizing you, Woooosh. They have you right where they want you. Good boy. :lol:

Woooosh - 2-8-2010 at 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
No tire basura?

but the group is called Reacciona Tijuana- a grass roots political organization seeking to empower Mexicans and create positive change. If I join their Facebook group will I be deported? :saint:

And some nomads insist on using their real names? Doug make a good point and even he considers it only his "opinion". No nomads want to make Mexico a worse or more unstable place to live. We all want Mexico to move forward. I post from both sides of the border- wherever I happen to be. I doubt a government that still uses carbon paper is going to focus on Blogs and Baja Nomads has had a political forum area for many years. If you do good works for Mexico (peace, love, no basura) your local gov't and neighbors will love you.

If you are anti-Mexico and make a show of it by joining protests and violate Mexican law- good luck to you. Nancy Conroy (gringo gazette) formed a Mexican company, accepted Mexican advertising dollars and then put her opinions in print and in every Rosarito store. Very different from a nomads post. JMHO

JESSE - 2-8-2010 at 12:54 PM

Well, gettin back on topic, it looks like Teo's gang is indeed a thing of the past, his top two leaders arrested this morning.

Its a good day for baja norte.

DENNIS - 2-8-2010 at 12:56 PM

I can't believe that voicing one's opinion is a political act unless it's designed to entice listeners to act in a subversive way.

OK....back on topic. Sorry. :cool:

[Edited on 2-8-2010 by DENNIS]

Woooosh - 2-8-2010 at 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
Well, gettin back on topic, it looks like Teo's gang is indeed a thing of the past, his top two leaders arrested this morning.

Its a good day for baja norte.

a very good day. Seems like a lot of equipment for two arrests, or were there many more arrests including Teo's top two?

wessongroup - 2-8-2010 at 01:29 PM

If your in Mexico, it is their county period.. You do what they say.. if you don't like you leave.. that is the way down here.. it is NOT the United States

I personally don't have a problem with shutting up.. yeah I know Dennis, but I don't have a problem staying out of Mexican politics and they're dealing with their problems.. I will set in the back of the room and keep my mouth shut..

As far as the other "The US has its 1st Amendment to its Constitution. No one need fear being punished by the authorities for exercising their opinion." I have serious doubts about it myself from personal experience which I do not intend to share here.. but, If you don't think you can end up in JAIL for speaking words ... think again.. a verbal threat in todays America can get you 20 years.. Check it out... if proven in court you are making a terrorist threat ... and now we are talking political correctness.. Watch out..

As for me.. coming down here.. I have always liked it down here.. there are less people.. my wife at the being of 2009 took me for a drive.. we started in Carlsbad on the Highway 1.. and drove all the way down to Tory Pines.. I had been well over 10 years since I had gotten out and saw the ocean.. well, there was not ONE place to park on the road all the way... I mean the parking spaces were all taken by 7 a.m... well that just sucks in my book.. I don't want to live in a place like that anymore.. sorry..

I hear others voicing the same thing, Soulpatch is moving with his family from the United States.. he is not running, he is making an informed decision based on the accumulation of knowledge which has and still continues to obtain from his work daily, along with his wife.. I know others which I have communicated with that are concluding the same.. no one is running.. and I don't think anyone is really trying to TELL the Mexican people how to run their Country.. used to call it "setting around the cracker barrel"

Well, there are too many of us to fit into the old store around the cracker barrel so this it..

But, its fun, and I think the exchange of idea's and thoughts, all of them, is healthy and normal.. no matter who or where on is..

Two fella's were working on the front of the house we rent.. leaks like a sieve when it rain.. don't care, it's not mine and it dry up after the rain.. but, they had been told that the window leak.. not from me.. but they were fixing them listening to he radio.. I couldn't understand, but they kept laughing hard every once in a while.. finally asked them what are you guys laughing about.. Talk radio, they were listening to talk radio, and the callers were talking about everything.. marriage, cheating, bad restaurants, fishing, any thing kind of like here...

And this one guy has a real good sense of humor, which I really enjoy.. he shows up and ask for permission to come inside.. he knows I'm messed up and spend most of my time in bed.. but he comes in and needs to get a ladder... and goes to the rear of the house and then stops before going outside.. and starts talking to me.. Why is your wife? Oh, she went up to the states for a while.. WHAT!!! she left YOU here all by yourself.. why, yes.. She left you here, really... all by yourself.. I said yeah, it not a big deal.. I got some tamales and burrito's in the refrigerator.. He starts smiling and laughing..... Not anymore!!!! then I just bust up over his quick humor.. and he asks if there is anything he can do for me..

A nice man.. with an excellent sense of humor, who I find is like most all of the people I continue to met down here.. maybe I'm just lucky, so far.. but have just found the folks down here to really be just good people... that's my story and I'm sticking to it..

DENNIS - 2-8-2010 at 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
If your in Mexico, it is their county period..

Who said otherwise? My point is, there's a big difference between Rabble-Rousing and having a discussion. It's been implied here, now and in the past, that the mere mention of a subject will get you excommunicated. That's nonsense.

JESSE - 2-8-2010 at 01:55 PM

Its not too complicated, you can discuss things, make some observations, but refrain from doing it often and naming specific individuals, that should be left for gringo citizens of Mexico or mexican born people. audiobaja was doing both, wich i consider risky since he also has a business in town.

DENNIS - 2-8-2010 at 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
audiobaja was doing both, wich i consider risky since he also has a business in town.

What happened? Where did he go? Did you do something here or have something done, Jesse? John's board history is wiped out. All that's left is his activity in OT.
Do you have any idea what happened to his records here?

What's up, Doug? How does a man's posting history disappear? What did he do?

DENNIS - 2-8-2010 at 07:52 PM

bmp I want answers.

Dear Dennis

Gypsy Jan - 2-8-2010 at 07:54 PM

With all due respect to you, Jesse is giving you very good, important information.

Sincerely, GJ

k-rico - 2-8-2010 at 08:05 PM

back on topic, apologies if previously posted:

TIJUANA — One of Baja’s most high-profile drug traffic leaders was arrested Monday morning by the Mexican police in South Baja California’s capital city, La Paz.

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration in San Diego confirmed the detention of Raydel Lopez Uriarte also known as “El Muletas.”

Lopez was arrested by the Mexican Federal Police and the Mexican Army by a land and air operation in the same city where Teodoro Garcia Simental “El Teo” was arrested a month ago.

http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2010-02-08/mexico/another-carte...

DENNIS - 2-8-2010 at 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
With all due respect to you, Jesse is giving you very good, important information.

I never questioned that, Jan. I do question how you would know the veracity of Jesse's statements.
Aside from that, Jesse hasn't responded to my post. Perhaps he's disinclined to do that for reasons of his own.....which I of course respect.

k-rico - 2-8-2010 at 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE

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Originally posted by audiobaja
No, but there's a guy down the street that says he can make me one for $100

Just tought you should know, your technically breaking the law, all it would take is someone filing a report on you and you could be deported.

This is what Jesse said. Audiobaja then freaked out and I guess spent the afternoon deleting all his posts. Takes all kinds.

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-8-2010 at 08:21 PM

Hey Dennis AudioBaja said adios to us forever this AM. I'm guessing he must have felt threatened with reprisals or something and deleted all of his post himself. Whenever we were temporarily banned BajaNomad never deleted our stuff! Just an opinion!

arrowhead - 2-8-2010 at 08:22 PM

There are some countries in the world where the government is there FOR the people. In other countries, the government is there for itself and acts to protect itself FROM the people. Mexico is one of the later. In case no one has noticed, Mexico is full of America-hating Americans. Gravity must suck them down there. There are quite a few on this board. BajaGringo, DonJulio and Audiobaja are a few that come to mind. There's a few more whose names I cannot remember. Always ready to zing the US with some real or imagined issue.

Audiobaja is a hothead. He got his burro kicked out of Albuquerque too. He'll be dragging his burro back up to the US sooner or later...as soon as he realizes he is not a Mexican and never will be.

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-8-2010 at 08:31 PM

Arrowhead I must take exception about your comment regarding BajaGringo. I have met him and he's no America or American hater and the day I see that, it would be the day I stop my association. That goes for any American who hates America or Americans. I don’t think I will be stopping my association with BajaGringo anytime soon because he’s not that way! His politics and mine may differ but that is all no big deal.

Mexicorn - 2-8-2010 at 09:30 PM

Dennis whats going on here? Who's audiobaja? Why is he scared?
Does he have inside information on the table dance girls at Anthonys?
Margies claiming they got "El Crutches and El lil Chewing gum?"
any truth to that?

Doug how did you promote Dennis to "Platinum Nomad?"

When do I make FTO??

[Edited on 2-9-2010 by Mexicorn]

JESSE - 2-8-2010 at 10:11 PM

Theres not much to tell here. John seems to like posting, and does so with total disregard of the laws, the customs, or anything around here. I pointed out to him that unless he was a Mexican citizen, he should be careful about discussing certain issues dealing with politics, and specifically, naming names. He freaked out and deleted everything. But hey, this is not the 1st time he has left a baja related board, he was kicked out of another for "posting too much".

DENNIS - 2-8-2010 at 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
He freaked out and deleted everything.

OK....I'm still confused. How did he delete everything without dumping his past activities on Off Topic? When I look at my, or your, posting history, they're mixed, listed chronologically.

DENNIS - 2-8-2010 at 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Hey Dennis AudioBaja said adios to us forever this AM.

GAWWWDAMMM....All I did was go to the bathroom and I missed all this?

DENNIS - 2-8-2010 at 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn
Does he have inside information on the table dance girls at Anthonys?

When do I make FTO??

Well....that must be it. No more mystery at Anthony's.

I probably shouldn't ask but, what's FTO?

BajaNomad - 2-9-2010 at 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
What's up, Doug? How does a man's posting history disappear?

Must've deleted 'em one-by-one. Not the first one to do it here... by far.

:rolleyes:

bajabass - 2-9-2010 at 07:38 AM

WOW! Sure glad my few rants have only included non-specific issues and people. A guy could get in trouble. Gonna have to learn to keep my mouth shut. I tend to be a little more aggressive and vocal in person. Better start practicing now.

aldosalato - 2-9-2010 at 08:27 AM

Even if I am a naturalized Mexican myself used to be more active and voice political views on this board and other websites. It has been already a few years I keep them for myself. Not many people to be trusted around lately.

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Whenever we were temporarily banned BajaNomad never deleted our stuff! Just an opinion!

I prefer to remember those episodes as having been sent to my room. "Banned" is too harsh. :lol:

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-9-2010 at 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Whenever we were temporarily banned BajaNomad never deleted our stuff! Just an opinion!

I prefer to remember those episodes as having been sent to my room. "Banned" is too harsh. :lol:

Ok, Ok, Sent to your room! :lol:

Woooosh - 2-9-2010 at 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Arrowhead I must take exception about your comment regarding BajaGringo. I have met him and he's no America or American hater and the day I see that, it would be the day I stop my association. That goes for any American who hates America or Americans. I don’t think I will be stopping my association with BajaGringo anytime soon because he’s not that way! His politics and mine may differ but that is all no big deal.

BajaGringo is indeed a stand-up guy. 100%.

Woooosh - 2-9-2010 at 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by JESSE
Theres not much to tell here. John seems to like posting, and does so with total disregard of the laws, the customs, or anything around here. I pointed out to him that unless he was a Mexican citizen, he should be careful about discussing certain issues dealing with politics, and specifically, naming names. He freaked out and deleted everything. But hey, this is not the 1st time he has left a baja related board, he was kicked out of another for "posting too much".

I think the wrong man left the board... :fire:

Woooosh - 2-9-2010 at 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Hey Dennis AudioBaja said adios to us forever this AM.

GAWWWDAMMM....All I did was go to the bathroom and I missed all this?

You didn't have your bowl of popcorn ready this time? :lol:

Woooosh - 2-9-2010 at 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by bajabass

A lot of people are the opposite, IMHO. Passive in person but post vigorously on Blogs like this and the net to vent and get it all out. Like Jesse kind of said, you can post and disagree with people just don't make a sport of it and call them out by name.

I do think the board looses something if members have to think twice about hitting delete, before they send a post.

I don't think individual posts are tracked by your ISP (computer of origin)- so let's just assume we ALL post from the USA all the time and keep our discussion here open-minded without fear of threats and intimidation. Peace, love, fish tacos.

wessongroup - 2-9-2010 at 10:58 AM

When I look at the United States political figures and our Courts .. I find it very hard to be critical of ANYTHING which occurs here in Mexico..

The reported events pail in comparison to the level of: corruption, greed and just plain lying which occurs north of the border....

Fear, threats and intimidation.. think Woooosh as the corner on that market, and to me stands out as to how dangerous it is, really living here in Mexico and expressing ones self, in front of God and County (and it's Mexico that I'm referring too)

Seems he has some real time examples of direct interface with the enforcement agency's, court system, and the local politics.

A real life no BS about living in Mexico.. and being actively involved in local issues.. and everyone knows where he lives too... I'm sure a folder is kept on him .... but, that is true up north too...

Thanks

Gaucho - 2-9-2010 at 11:07 AM

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BajaGringo is indeed a stand-up guy. 100%.

I agree wholeheartedly Wooosh. Just look at the contributions BG has made to this board.

BajaGringo - 2-9-2010 at 11:15 AM

Man, I take a few days off to travel (picked up a new pup) and I miss out on all the action.

Now I'm an America hater? I suppose I voluntarily served in the military defending a country I hate? I just don't particularly like the direction the USA has taken the past few decades in some regards. I suppose anybody who doesn't share your views is an America hater???

As far as being an American hater - I don't hate anybody. There are a few trolls on here solely to stir the pot and I probably won't invite them to our next beach BBQ. :lol:

And thanks to my friends here for their posted support and messages. Now let me start another thread on something more important - I want to show off the additions to our family...

Bajahowodd - 2-9-2010 at 11:45 AM

Nothing like a few furry pet photos to diffuse things, eh? :lol:

JESSE - 2-9-2010 at 12:35 PM

Jesus!!! such a big fuzz over nothing. John exaggerated, thats all, if he wanted to leave, let him do it. Nobody forced him to do anything.

Woooosh - 2-9-2010 at 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
When I look at the United States political figures and our Courts .. I find it very hard to be critical of ANYTHING which occurs here in Mexico..

The reported events pail in comparison to the level of: corruption, greed and just plain lying which occurs north of the border....

Fear, threats and intimidation.. think Woooosh as the corner on that market, and to me stands out as to how dangerous it is, really living here in Mexico and expressing ones self, in front of God and County (and it's Mexico that I'm referring too)

Seems he has some real time examples of direct interface with the enforcement agency's, court system, and the local politics.

A real life no BS about living in Mexico.. and being actively involved in local issues.. and everyone knows where he lives too... I'm sure a folder is kept on him .... but, that is true up north too...

Thanks

Thanks Wesson. Yes, I have been through a lot. Even so- there is no place I would rather live than Mexico. Perhaps I would have chosen a different spot in Baja than Rosarito Beach, but it wasn't up to me. I built and gave the house to my Mexican family who are long-time Rosarito/TJ residents- it's not even mine. The love I have for my family and them for me makes it all worth it. I will try harder to work through them, but they area always right there with me through the good, bad and ugly.

As bad as the real experiences I shared with you privately were- everyday Mexicans go through the exact same thing. They have learned not to speak out of fear of reprisals. I'm learning that much more slowly unfortunately, but I am learning things won't change in my lifetime- so I find something small, but positive every day: Pick up trash on the beach, leave some food kibble and fresh water out for a friendly but abandoned dog, give some pesos to a lady with a sick child, make a sandwich for someone who is hungry... whatever it takes.

My Mexican family laughs and tells me I don't spend any money- I just give it away. That's OK. I sleep well and the $4.99 used clothes I buy for myself on e-bay are good enough for me.

Viva Mexico!

BajaGringo - 2-9-2010 at 01:10 PM

Woooosh - you are my new hero...

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
the $4.99 used clothes I buy for myself on e-bay are good enough for me.

You mean to say you haven't discovered the Segundas? If there arn't already a million of them in Rosarito, you should make a day trip down here to do some shopping.

Woooosh - 2-9-2010 at 02:57 PM

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the $4.99 used clothes I buy for myself on e-bay are good enough for me.

You mean to say you haven't discovered the Segundas? If there arn't already a million of them in Rosarito, you should make a day trip down here to do some shopping.

oh yeah. And the Sunday swap meets. The family goes on nice days and, well you know- everything you could want to buy or throw away again is there. Sometimes I make a game of it and stake out Tommy Bahama Hawaiian shirts with a $2.99 limit.

As a boy in CT my parents went "antiquing" and to auctions every weekend- so that habit is hard to give up. I may find something down here valuable some day a gringo brought and discarded as junk- who knows? I like nice things- I'm just not willing to pay full price for them. I love the search for bargains (and I went to catholic school- so no jokes...).

Any other cheap-skates like me out there?

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
Tommy Bahama Hawaiian shirts with a $2.99 limit.

My thing at the Segundas is Hawaiian shirts in general. Well, it used to be anyway. I was getting them for 20 Ps each. I finally had to quit buying them when I took inventory and had over 150. Still have most of them since I'll wear a shirt 'till you can see through it. I still keep an eye out for Reyn Spooners. The price has gone up to 30Ps. Not bad for a 75 dollar shirt like new.

Woooosh - 2-9-2010 at 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
Tommy Bahama Hawaiian shirts with a $2.99 limit.

150? That's too funny. Yeah- maybe I should up my standards, but wouldn't want to compete with you. It is amazing how many "like new" shirts are out there for cheap. LOL

tripledigitken - 2-9-2010 at 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE

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Jesse,

This must mean our friendly blogger in SADM is a Mexican Citizen? If not how does she get away with her blogg?

Ken

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 03:50 PM

I have never in my life heard of anybody being expelled for voicing an opinion. I'm sure it can be done, but I've never heard that it has been done. I think the Expat community has pretty much terrorized itself with this issue.
Jeeeezo.....We arn't exactly the William Walker Fan Club. All we want to do is discuss the world we live in.

Sharksbaja - 2-9-2010 at 03:54 PM

"I finally had to quit buying them when I took inventory and had over 150. Still have most of them since I'll wear a shirt 'till you can see through it."

I can relate! :cool:

100% cotton only! Made in Hawaii or USA if possible not India or Asia. :rolleyes:

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 03:55 PM

Pehaps a few here don't get the reference to William Walker. It's an interesting story so here ya go:

http://www.fotw.net/flags/mx-rso.html

tripledigitken - 2-9-2010 at 03:55 PM

Dennis,

You mean we are talking about another Mexican Myth?

I've heard that newpaper reporters can have a harm time though, and they are nationals. :wow:

Ken

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
100% cotton only! Made in Hawaii or USA if possible not India or Asia. :rolleyes:

Cotton is best, for sure. I used to wonder what people in Bangladesh did when they weren't busy starving. They make Hawaiian shirts. I guess they have a big garment industry.
Anyway, Hilo Hattie and Reyn Spooner. My favorites.

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken

You mean we are talking about another Mexican Myth?

I've heard that newpaper reporters can have a harm time though, and they are nationals. :wow:

Ken

No. No myth at all. I'm sure there's a basis in fact. If someone were to be in the local park, standing on a soapbox and talking the overthrow of the government, he would do well to have his bags packed.
On the other hand, discussing politics in public can't be offensive to any democratic government. You just can't openly trash anybody. You never know who could call in a marker and have you removed. It doesn't take much in a country where it's not what you know, it's who you know.

Journalists take a known, calculated risk.

tripledigitken - 2-9-2010 at 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by tripledigitken

You mean we are talking about another Mexican Myth?

I've heard that newpaper reporters can have a harm time though, and they are nationals. :wow:

Ken

No question about the scenerio in the park, but we are talking about the internet.

Would be interesting to hear of actual cases of foreigners being deported for opinions posted on a forum. It would be news to me. I don't doubt Jesse's post, just would be interesting to hear some examples.

I'd guess that in reality those parties just fade away and it really never becomes a story.

Ken

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken
we are talking about the internet.

Oh...yeah. I forgot.
This doesn't get right to your point, but it's kinda interesting:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/02/world/main6166446....

VERY INTERESTING

tripledigitken - 2-9-2010 at 04:27 PM

Dennis,

That's pretty close. Thanks.

Ken

comitan - 2-9-2010 at 04:27 PM

What JESSE has posted as I understand it, that is why you will never see a post from me that is Mexican Political. Aside from that a person or persons could make political posts for years an nobody bother, but then out of a clear blue sky they swoop down and your gone back to NANALAND. And don't ask me what constitutes a political post because I don't know, but I'm sure the people that enforce such issues know. I'm sure Maggie knows how far she can go, if not she may be gone one of theses days and not lost in the surf. :wow:

Primo Find

Dave - 2-9-2010 at 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
oh yeah. And the Sunday swap meets. The family goes on nice days and, well you know- everything you could want to buy or throw away again is there. Sometimes I make a game of it and stake out Tommy Bahama Hawaiian shirts with a $2.99 limit.

Several years ago I bought a 60-year-old PFAFF 130 sewing machine at the Primo Tapia market.

The guy wanted $45 for it and I wound up paying $25.

Has never needed service, looks damn near new and runs like butter. :biggrin:

Bajahowodd - 2-9-2010 at 04:34 PM

Geez. This thread, entitled "Teo's Gang on the Verge of Extinction" may just be the award winner for rambling off the topic. From second hand thrift stores, to Hawaiian shirts, to alcohol checkpoints.......Not to mention the voluntary resignation of a Nomad........

Amazing! :lol:

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 04:39 PM

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Has never needed service, looks damn near new and runs like butter. :biggrin:

Do you make Hawaiian shirts? Do alterations? :lol:

Replace buttons? Knit?

JESSE - 2-9-2010 at 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken

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Originally posted by JESSE

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Jesse,

This must mean our friendly blogger in SADM is a Mexican Citizen? If not how does she get away with her blogg?

Ken

Insanity is a citizen of the world.

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 04:44 PM

..Now I feel terrible. We're being accused of hijacking a thread. Heaven forbid.
OK....Who has more to say about Teo and his gang?
tictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictic tictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictic

Nobody? You mean, we've said it all? OK...good.
Back to the hijack. :tumble:

JESSE - 2-9-2010 at 04:47 PM

Many foreigners have a "record" in immigration, and don't even know it. Suddenly they get denied a renovation on their papers, or a citizenship application, and they don't know why.

No shirts

Dave - 2-9-2010 at 05:06 PM

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Has never needed service, looks damn near new and runs like butter. :biggrin:

Do you make Hawaiian shirts? Do alterations? :lol:

Replace buttons? Knit?

And I draw the line at embroidery. :biggrin:

Learned from my father who was trained as a tailor in the 'old country'. His hand stitching was indistinguishable from a sewing machine. I still have a suit he tailored for me when I was a teenager. It's my proudest possession.

BajaGringo - 2-9-2010 at 05:37 PM

Like Woooosh, I like quality stuff and discovered long ago that you could buy used stuff that was cheaper and better quality than much of the new / lower quality stuff. Besides, it is just fun to go sorting through the myriad of "pre-owned" treasures folks put up for sale.

Even make it a point to go on an empty stomach because there is always somebody selling something that smells wonderful to eat along the way...

Woooosh - 2-9-2010 at 06:21 PM

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Dennis,

That's pretty close. Thanks.

Ken

very close and current- Thanks Dennis. Reporting DUI checkpoints is the issue there. The gov't says disclosing secret locations of them on Twitter is the problem, The Twits say once you have seen it with your own eyes- why is it illegal to report it? There are some sane heads though:

“We have to play within the rules of the game,” Krame said. “These are open sources. If we try to regulate them we’re just going to end up like China battling Google.”

[Edited on 2-10-2010 by Woooosh]

bajabass - 2-9-2010 at 08:33 PM

Minor hijack in progress? :?:

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-9-2010 at 09:05 PM

:lol:

Mexicorn - 2-9-2010 at 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
..Now I feel terrible. We're being accused of hijacking a thread. Heaven forbid.
OK....Who has more to say about Teo and his gang?
tictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictic tictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictictic

Nobody? You mean, we've said it all? OK...good.
Back to the hijack. :tumble:

Whats going on here? Dennis I want full accountability! I demand it... tic tic tic tic.....
Whats being hi-jacked the pole at Anthonys or the pole at the Paris club????

DENNIS - 2-9-2010 at 10:06 PM

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Whats going on here? Dennis I want full accountability! I demand it... tic tic tic tic.....
Whats being hi-jacked the pole at Anthonys or the pole at the Paris club????

Aw...I don't know, Corny. Seems nobody can bring us back on topic. I guess I'll have to do it myself.

OK, Nomads....Here's that Sourdough Starter recipe someone asked for a while back:
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Ingredients
3 tablespoons instant mashed potato flakes 3 tablespoons white sugar 1 cup warm water 2 1/4 teaspoons active dry yeast
Directions
Combine instant potatoes, sugar, water, and yeast in a covered container. Let the starter sit on a counter for 5 days, stirring daily with a wooden spoon.
On the morning of the fifth day, feed the starter with 3 tablespoons instant potatoes, 3 tablespoons sugar, and 1 cup warm water. In the evening, take out 1 cup of the starter to use in a sourdough recipe. Refrigerate the remaining starter.
Every five days, feed the starter 3 tablespoons instant potatoes, 3 tablespoons sugar and 1 cup water. If starter is to be used in a recipe, let the fed starter rest at room temperature 6 hours before use. If starter is not being used in a recipe, keep refrigerated and discard 1 cup of starter after each feeding.