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Unusual Bar-B-Que at the Dump

DianaT - 2-5-2010 at 05:04 PM

These guys are usually what is bar-b-qued, not the ones eating around the bar-b-que. We were quite surprised.







And a couple of scenes from the edges of the dump--such a variety in terrain and open spaces.








Diana

Timo1 - 2-5-2010 at 05:08 PM

Diane
A friend of mine owns the land of the local lndfill
He also runs cattle on the same land
They eat it all....plastic you name it
His calves got ribbons at the cattle show for health
go figure LOLLLL

DianaT - 2-5-2010 at 05:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Timo1
Diane
A friend of mine owns the land of the local lndfill
He also runs cattle on the same land
They eat it all....plastic you name it
His calves got ribbons at the cattle show for health
go figure LOLLLL


We could not believe how close they were to the fire----very, very close and when a few things popped very loudly, they were not disturbed at all.

They eat plastic? Yuk

BajaWarrior - 2-5-2010 at 06:33 PM

Hopefully the wind will shift and burn everything there at the dump before it blows away...

Barbareno - 2-6-2010 at 07:07 AM

Hey!!!! That's my chair! :lol:

Ken Bondy - 2-6-2010 at 08:03 AM

Great landscapes Diane!! Beautiful light. ++Ken++

Don Alley - 2-6-2010 at 08:48 AM

Great pics!

Mulegena - 2-6-2010 at 08:52 AM

These cattle don't appear too unhealthy, however we all know that eating plastic bags and such is not good.

However, to bring up another point: I've assisted in the veterinarian operating room here in Baja helping to spay dogs that live at the dump and subsist on what they can find to eat. Even at 6 months old there is permanent internal damage to the organs; intestines in particular bear scar tissue from their eating non-edibles in their desperate search for food.

Sad part is unless an adopter comes along the dogs are returned to the dump.

DianaT - 2-6-2010 at 11:27 AM

Ken and Don, thanks. It was a great day for pix with all the clouds. It really is too pretty to have a dump, but the dump has to be somewhere.

Bajawarrior, they have tried to get all the trash in the one area, but it is a work in progress. That was just one small fire.

Barb, I am on my way to save your chair. :lol::lol: Wish you two would get down here so you can enjoy that chair.

Mulegena, we really do not have that much of a homeless dog problem here. We see lots of coyotes at the dump, but have not seen any dogs. I am sure there are some at times, but fortunately most dogs around here have a home. And this is the first time we have seen cows out there and there are ranches near by.

There has been talk of starting to recyle plastic and we hope that happens!

Diane

bajaandy - 2-6-2010 at 11:47 AM

Ahh... the ubiquitous fire cow. How lucky of you to get to observe them in their natural habitat. A rare sight indeed.

Iflyfish - 2-6-2010 at 02:41 PM

I wonder if they recognized remnants of relatives in there. Sniff, sniff, is that Uncle Charlie?? I thought he went to McDonalds.

Iflyfish

Sharksbaja - 2-6-2010 at 03:40 PM

Yikes! I can see it now, dumpster diving cows!! It's just plain wrong!:lol:

Natalie Ann - 2-6-2010 at 04:09 PM

Yep it is a real pretty dump, Diane. Well, maybe not the dump itself... but certainly the land around it. The distance views gotta be worth the trip!

I'd love to be out there when the clouds are fluffy and pushed by the wind.... must make for some exciting plays of light and dark across that terrain.

Now those cows... yuck! Are they raised for meat or milk or do they just roam around being cows all their life? I really don't like to think about eating or drinking from any beast which has been eating plastic while breathing fumes from dump items.:no:

nena

rhintransit - 2-7-2010 at 06:54 AM

I have been told that there is no facility for biological or toxic waste in Baja. so speculate where the hospital, vet clinic, etc etc trash goes. our Loreto spay/neuter release dogs go back to the dump to feed on ????.

Wingnut - 2-8-2010 at 04:29 PM

The cattle in your picture at the dump are eating anything they can to stay alive. The white or beige cow shows how starved they are. You can almost see all their bones. I was raised on a cattle ranch and I am telling you they are eating garbage particularily vegetable scraps and anything that has salt on or in it. My guess is that they have very little grass to eat and almost no salt at all. We used to leave 50# blocks of salt in certain gathering areas, usually near water, so the cattle could slake their cravings for salt. If they don't get it, they will try to eat anything that contains it, thus that's why they eat garbage. And I don't know about this rancher winning awards for the condition of his cattle, I seriously doubt he is unless they are just fatter from eating the garbage rather than being starved in the desert. A lot of that stuff like plastic will stay in their stomachs and never dissolve, although ruminants like cattle have several stomachs to process stuff with, so they do a better job than most. Horrible to think what get's absorbed into the meat.

wessongroup - 2-8-2010 at 04:59 PM

Wingnut, you were raised on a ranch.. salt licks ... used to chip off a piece for myself.. a long time ago...

DianaT - 2-8-2010 at 05:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wingnut
The cattle in your picture at the dump are eating anything they can to stay alive. The white or beige cow shows how starved they are. You can almost see all their bones. I was raised on a cattle ranch and I am telling you they are eating garbage particularily vegetable scraps and anything that has salt on or in it. My guess is that they have very little grass to eat and almost no salt at all. We used to leave 50# blocks of salt in certain gathering areas, usually near water, so the cattle could slake their cravings for salt. If they don't get it, they will try to eat anything that contains it, thus that's why they eat garbage. And I don't know about this rancher winning awards for the condition of his cattle, I seriously doubt he is unless they are just fatter from eating the garbage rather than being starved in the desert. A lot of that stuff like plastic will stay in their stomachs and never dissolve, although ruminants like cattle have several stomachs to process stuff with, so they do a better job than most. Horrible to think what get's absorbed into the meat.


Have not seen a fat cow on any of the ranches around here----certainly do not look like any of the cattle in the states, it that is the way it is for these desert ranchers.

As far as eating plastic? I have no idea if they eat it our not. It just looked like there were eating the garbage, but who knows.

My main surprise was that they chose to eat so close the the fire when there was plenty of other trash and garbage around that was not being burned.

Seems like these pix upset a few people ---sorry if they did, but lots of things are a part of life in Baja that are very different.

Bajahowodd - 2-8-2010 at 05:20 PM

No need to apologize, Diane. Not at all. The pix were great. I also wonder that those cows were so close to the fire. It just seems to support the idea that they were borderline starving. In certain respects, it just supports the idea of cultural differences. Much like dogs in Baja; they always appear to be communal.

wessongroup - 2-8-2010 at 05:25 PM

Not me.. it's all good.. :):) thanks for the shots.... as usual

Timo1 - 2-8-2010 at 05:25 PM

they don't want trichanosis and want it cooked ???

tripledigitken - 2-8-2010 at 05:26 PM

Besides, when you can eat Lobster, Crab, Tuna, Abalone, etc. who needs carne?

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Skipjack Joe - 2-8-2010 at 05:32 PM



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Wingnut - 2-10-2010 at 04:23 PM

Wessongroup, yep the old chip off the ol' salt block! Used to drive my Mom nuts when we did it. The old man said it wouldn't hurt us and you can only take so much of it before your body says enough. Used to take dry malt from the bags of malt we used to make formula for "lepes" (calves without mothers). Made our own malts. Even added some to the oats we stole from the horse bin to make malted oatmeal with....ever wonder where oatmeal started from? Horse feed. Rural life was such a great beginning.

Wingnut - 2-10-2010 at 04:29 PM

Diane, as far as the cows being close to the fire, they are used to it and they can smell the garbage burning. Since the fire basically isn't roaring and moving, they get used to it and are not afraid of it. There really isn't anything to burn in that desert area there anyway. And don't worry about upsetting people with the pictures, life should always be shown as it is. People grow up and never experience the real world if we hide everything. And before everybody gets all excited about that comment, I also believe that some discretion should be used in posting things that are too far out there. These pictures were far from that. Thanks for posting them.