BajaNomad

help!!! seek alt oil types.

capt. mike - 2-22-2010 at 03:12 PM

who here.....and i ask only because in my experience some of the best cooks and restaurant operators are here...

can advise of a good substitute for peanut oil for high temp frying - like for beef fondue cooked in oil?
vegetable oil too bland.
peanut oil way too expensive.
lard - well i just don't want to cook prime filet in that.
sesame oil too much flavor.

mobil 1 ... wrong synthetic...:lol:

what say you??

DENNIS - 2-22-2010 at 03:36 PM

Canola Oil is becoming pretty common. Very lite for cooking. I don't know how much heat it will tolerate.
It used to be called Rapeseed Oil. When Canada decided to be a big exporter of the stuff, they gave it a more pleasant name.

Sharksbaja - 2-22-2010 at 03:41 PM

Dennis is right. I use canola for fondue and a good beef cut like filet mignon. With some Beaver horseradish on the side!
Yeah baby!

DENNIS - 2-22-2010 at 03:43 PM

Lemme add some more here.......Sesame oil, the untoasted type, might work well. You're right. The toasted type is strong, but I really like it.
Sunflower oil?
Safflower Oil?
There's lots to experiment with.

DENNIS - 2-22-2010 at 04:00 PM

Got this off of Kate's list:

Avocado oil 520°F 271°C

Just saw this stuff at Costco Ensenada, but I think it was a little pricey.
I had a friend who used to buy Peanut Oil in five gallon cans. I'd imagine that's the economical way to go.

Sharksbaja - 2-22-2010 at 04:11 PM

That is a hi-temp oil alright! Might be excellent for fondue.

Bajahowodd - 2-22-2010 at 05:13 PM

Avocado oil is pricey because it's not 1970. Back in the day, avocados were regularly like 10 cents apiece. Now, often they are like a buck apiece. Blame the Super Bowl!

Russ - 2-22-2010 at 05:30 PM

Canola Oil with a shot Sesame Oil for some flavor and nice aroma should work nicely. I'd like to hear from Jesse see a chiefs' opinion. I like to put garlic in too and replace it as they brown.
Edit: I googled fondue oil and got this. Maybe some ideas. What time should we show up?

[Edited on 2-23-2010 by Russ]

Cypress - 2-22-2010 at 05:40 PM

Macadamia Nut OiL?

Bajahowodd - 2-22-2010 at 05:41 PM

Valvoline?

BajaWarrior - 2-22-2010 at 05:43 PM

Here in San Diego there is a restaurant by the name of "Forever Fondue" and they give you a choice of oil or chicken broth for the beef, chicken, fish and vegetables.

Dessert was various fruit and cake samples dipped in warm chocolate.

[Edited on 2-24-2010 by BajaWarrior]

capt. mike - 2-22-2010 at 06:09 PM

thx guys!! all good!!
i will do canola and add flavorings. (sesame, garlic etc)

peanut oil costs like about $24 for 2 gals at albertsons.
my turkey fryer says use it - i say hell no!! too much $$$$$
and small bottles of peanut oil are mui $$.

what other meats might be good cooked in a fondue set?
lamb??
pork tenderloin?
firm fish like shark or sword??

marv sherrill - 2-22-2010 at 06:12 PM

bajahowodd is that 30 or 40 W?

BajaWarrior - 2-22-2010 at 06:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by capt. mike
thx guys!! all good!!
i will do canola and add flavorings. (sesame, garlic etc)

peanut oil costs like about $24 for 2 gals at albertsons.
my turkey fryer says use it - i say hell no!! too much $$$$$
and small bottles of peanut oil are mui $$.

what other meats might be good cooked in a fondue set?
lamb??
pork tenderloin?
firm fish like shark or sword??


Whatever you use Fondue is all about the sauce you dip it in, otherwise it's just boiled meat...

captain4tuna - 2-22-2010 at 06:56 PM

Grape Seed oil is great
Rie

Bajahowodd - 2-22-2010 at 07:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by marv sherrill
bajahowodd is that 30 or 40 W?


20W50 works best!:lol:

Sharksbaja - 2-22-2010 at 07:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by capt. mike

firm fish like shark or sword??


C'mon Capt. you can live without those steaks in yer diet, no?

capt. mike - 2-23-2010 at 08:02 AM

otherwise it's just boiled meat??

no - i fry mine. very rare too. just get the outside crispy.
otherwise i make a cheeze sauce to dip hARD russian rye black BREAD or blanched vegies.

durrelllrobert - 2-23-2010 at 09:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
Macadamia Nut OiL?

K-Y lube:?::?:

mtgoat666 - 2-24-2010 at 06:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by capt. mike
thx guys!! all good!!
i will do canola and add flavorings. (sesame, garlic etc)

peanut oil costs like about $24 for 2 gals at albertsons.
my turkey fryer says use it - i say hell no!! too much $$$$$
and small bottles of peanut oil are mui $$.

what other meats might be good cooked in a fondue set?
lamb??
pork tenderloin?
firm fish like shark or sword??


Use a heavy cast iron fondue pot for oil or cheese fondue (don't use skimpy thin metal version of fondue pots found in gringolandia). A typical fondue pot holds less than 1/2 liter oil, so don't worry about cost of oil (high quality meat will set you back more than the oil)

If beef fondue, your flavor comes from good meat and side dipping sauces -- not the oil. Use veggie or canola oil (not peanut or sesame). Side dishes are french bread and salad and/or fruit. I suppose you could do other meats, but fish meat is probably too flaky and likely to fall off and stay in pot of oil

I like cubing potatoes and vegetable for dipping in oil fondue pot similar to cooking beef in fondue pot.

[Edited on 2-25-2010 by mtgoat666]

capt. mike - 2-25-2010 at 08:03 AM

good points Mr. Cabrito.
thank you.

isn't it nice that we can disagree on all things political yet have a common denominator in food?
cheers.