BajaNomad - Requirements for establishing a charter?

Requirements for establishing a charter?

JZ - 3-17-2010 at 06:25 PM

I've had my boat down in MX for about 6 years. I don't go down as often as I use to unfortunately. Thinking about letting my captain rent it out here and there to help his family out.

Any general info any can share on the process. This would be on the mainland, so it wouldn't be taking any biz away from folks here. PM me if it too sensitive for the board.

BAJA.DESERT.RAT - 3-18-2010 at 12:22 AM

DON'T DO IT !

DA RAT

Hook - 3-18-2010 at 06:38 AM

JZ, the guy at Team Margarita Sportfishing over here alluded to it taking TWO YEARS to finally get his boats legal for charter. His boats had also been down here for some time beforehand.

Maybe try contacting Bryan and see what it takes............although another charter operation is the LAST thing we need in SC. The ones that are here are barely making it.

http://www.scaamexico.com/

bajabass - 3-18-2010 at 09:16 AM

Ok, another question. If my Mexican citizen wife owns a boat, may she start a charter biz, and I run the boat? Looking for options in La Paz.

shari - 3-18-2010 at 09:29 AM

I'm not certain you could get away with just renting it out occasionally due to all the mexican red tape involved....unless it was under the table but then your boat is at risk. You need all kinds of permits and registration.

I can tell you, chartering is an enormous costly hassle...at least here in baja plus you will most likely need insurance which is expensive too...I'm not sure we even break even on our charters by the time all the permits, insurance, gas, maintenance and deckhands etc are paid.....so do think carefully about it...plus consider the wear and tear on your boat.

Ask her

Dave - 3-18-2010 at 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by bajabass
Ok, another question. If my Mexican citizen wife owns a boat, may she start a charter biz, and I run the boat?

She might even let you cut bait. :rolleyes:

shari - 3-18-2010 at 09:35 AM

bass---your wife can start any business she wants! Not sure about you being an employee...lots of advice should come forth on this for ya...I remember something about if you hire a foreigner, you have to hire 5 mexicanos too????? to every i foreigner...this was just hearsay by the way. Having a business is very complicated...not for the faint of heart...a real challenge in every way...but doable.

JZ - 3-18-2010 at 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by shari

I can tell you, chartering is an enormous costly hassle...at least here in baja plus you will most likely need insurance which is expensive too...I'm not sure we even break even on our charters by the time all the permits, insurance, gas, maintenance and deckhands etc are paid.....so do think carefully about it...plus consider the wear and tear on your boat.

I'm already paying 3/4 of that now anyway.... this wouldn't be for fishing. Fishing burns too much gas....

DENNIS - 3-18-2010 at 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by JZ
.... this wouldn't be for fishing. Fishing burns too much gas....

What type of "charter" are you considering?

Diver - 3-18-2010 at 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by bajabass
Ok, another question. If my Mexican citizen wife owns a boat, may she start a charter biz, and I run the boat? Looking for options in La Paz.

Since there is no short answer, here is the long answer;
http://www.peoplesguide.com/1pages/retire/work/bil-maste/sta...

[Edited on 3-18-2010 by Diver]

shari - 3-18-2010 at 10:14 AM

that was a really really good article Diver...gracias...lots of valuable points and the guy hit it right on.

bajabass - 3-18-2010 at 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by shari
bass---your wife can start any business she wants! Not sure about you being an employee...lots of advice should come forth on this for ya...I remember something about if you hire a foreigner, you have to hire 5 mexicanos too????? to every i foreigner...this was just hearsay by the way. Having a business is very complicated...not for the faint of heart...a real challenge in every way...but doable.

Hi Shari! I have ran a business at a much larger scale that a old gringo taking a couple people fish every month. 20 years of a medium retail auto shop in So Cal has prepped me pretty well. I have a few customers and friends that would love me to give them a place to stay, and I take them fishing. Something along the lines of a certain resort type casa with a guest house, close to an international airport, and good fishing within eyesight. Small scale, low stress, keep me out of the cantinas. :light:

shari - 3-18-2010 at 10:24 AM

sounds like a plan then bass!!! suerte amigo

bajajudy - 3-18-2010 at 10:36 AM

Probably the best advice from that article

"You’ll also learn that the concept of time is viewed differently by many in Mexico than by other North Americans. It’s not that people are lazy, or disinterested in your wanting to lease space, place orders, etc., it’s just that what’s important to you in the timeframe you’ve established may not be viewed the same by those you deal with."

I have to agree with shari, running a biz here is like navigating a mine field that is marked in a foreign language.

You have to have professional help.

[Edited on 3-18-2010 by bajajudy]

bajabass - 3-18-2010 at 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by Diver

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Originally posted by bajabass
Ok, another question. If my Mexican citizen wife owns a boat, may she start a charter biz, and I run the boat? Looking for options in La Paz.

Since there is no short answer, here is the long answer;
http://www.peoplesguide.com/1pages/retire/work/bil-maste/sta...

[Edited on 3-18-2010 by Diver]

Very helpful info Diver, thanks. I am lucky enough to have married a very smart lady. Between her and a notario publico, I think I may be able to wade through this kind of hassle. The only problem may be, I Want To Run The Boat!

CaboRon - 3-19-2010 at 08:27 AM

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Whish we had that requirement in the States ..

Hire one Mexican .... you have to hire 5 Americans too !!

longlegsinlapaz - 3-19-2010 at 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by bajajudy
Probably the best advice from that article

"You’ll also learn that the concept of time is viewed differently by many in Mexico than by other North Americans. It’s not that people are lazy, or disinterested in your wanting to lease space, place orders, etc., it’s just that what’s important to you in the timeframe you’ve established may not be viewed the same by those you deal with."

I have to agree with shari, running a biz here is like navigating a mine field that is marked in a foreign language.

You have to have professional help.

[Edited on 3-18-2010 by bajajudy]

Oh oh bajabass....sounds like bajajudy's on to you!! :lol:

Sorry Judy, I know how you meant it....but it would been a waste to allow such an excellent opportunity slip past me!

bajabass - 3-19-2010 at 11:45 AM

Are we on a comedic roll or what Legs? Seems everyone is getting a giggle or two at my expense as of late. :?:

Pay back is hell!