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Pangas going extinct

shari - 3-22-2010 at 08:34 AM

Today I learned something new I thought some of you may be interested in...and to think I've been here over 20 years and didnt pick up on this.

Juan corrected me today about the difference between a panga and lancha. He claims that all the fiberglass boats the fishermen use now are called lanchas and that pangas are only the wooden ones as pictured below. there are very few of these wooden pangas left...some of the sargasso fishermen still use them.

He says that the use of the word panga is a gringo thing and that fishermen dont use the word panga for their boats...which would be why boat drivers around here are called lancheros...pangeros is a gringo term...pangeras are people who make pangas not drive them.

learn something new every day eh!

PS...check out the mystery cave in the back right corner of the photo...this cave has a set of steel tracks coming out of it and go straight down into the ocean deep...no one knows what they are:o

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noproblemo2 - 3-22-2010 at 09:08 AM

Interesting about the pangas, but more so the tracks!!!! Can't wait to hear more about them.

[Edited on 3-22-2010 by noproblemo2]

boe4fun - 3-22-2010 at 09:27 AM

Oh my, those poor pangas. Better call PETA (Pangas Eh - Too Awesome!)

BajaBlanca - 3-22-2010 at 02:29 PM

Shari - that is really very interesting ...

panga
lancha

pangero then does NOT exist as a term (not even for the sagasso guys?)
pangera = panga making shop
is a lanchera the lancha making shop ??

lanchero = lancha driver

jeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sharksbaja - 3-22-2010 at 02:38 PM

Very interesting Shari thanks.

btw, how far back does that cave go? Could it have been a secret sub base used by James Bonds' adversaries or Cap'n Nemo?:tumble:

[Edited on 3-22-2010 by Sharksbaja]

Bajahowodd - 3-22-2010 at 04:10 PM

Maybe I'm missing something, or just need to read more, but what I know is that the Sargasso Sea is in the mid-Atlantic. Anyone care to help me here?

Timo1 - 3-22-2010 at 04:18 PM

sargasso is sea-weed
They harvest a black sea-weed there

Debra - 3-22-2010 at 04:20 PM

Another interesting thing about "pangas" They were first built in Japan, the Mexican goverment comissoned them built.........

DENNIS - 3-22-2010 at 04:29 PM

I have to think they were called Pangas in the past. In the early 70s, I spent some time at the Flying Sportsman Lodge, Loreto. There was a retiree living there who loved to fish and had some friends who belonged to the local co-op arrange the purchase of a Panga, the fiberglass type we see today. By "arrainge" I mean they had to buy it for him. They were subsidized by the government and not for sale to the public. Believe me....this transaction was as secretive as a big volume drug deal.


Here's some others who like to call them Pangas:

http://www.pangamarine.com/

Thanks

Bajahowodd - 3-22-2010 at 04:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Timo1
sargasso is sea-weed
They harvest a black sea-weed there


It is way too often that I go to sleep at night having learned little or nothing. Tonight, I shall sleep peacefully. Seriously.

;);D:yes:

marv sherrill - 3-22-2010 at 05:21 PM

I thought it was because the bamboo died - oh wait - never mind

Paulclark - 3-22-2010 at 05:34 PM

Here is some Panga history after a brief Google search:

http://www.adip.info/2003_2004/dec/02-fishing.php

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/260303-history-pan...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panga_%28boat%29

Debra - 3-22-2010 at 06:10 PM

Thanks "paulchuck" very interesting to get 'the rest of the story' didn't know that.

Pescador - 3-24-2010 at 07:21 AM

Actually, that term was used by the factory and the most famous panga builder was the Arca Factory in La Paz that was financed by Max Shoyer who was a entrepeneur that looked at all the wood boats and brought over a family of boatbuilders by the name of Diaz from the mainland. Arca was the most popular boat, especially in Baja Sur and was built on a 22 foot mold that did have some resemblence to the Japanese boats although the Japanese boats had a lot more influence on the Reforma boat which was built in Guaymas area and south, mostly in Enpalme.
Lupe Diaz then developed a super panga which did not have all of the seats that a traditional panga contained and started getting center or side consoles and they became the standard of the panga fleets. They were employing a lot of workers and the unions came in and got involved and Lupe ended up shutting down the factory because of the labor disputes. A lumber yard in La Paz ended up with the molds and built a few boats off of the molds but never seemed to be able to really get it together and were not the quality builder that Lupe Diaz was.
Lupe then moved to Los Barrilles and started building a new mold for a super panga which was longer and wider than the original super panga. This became a very popular boat and has design features that no other boat has ever developed, and at 23 feet is especially configured for the seas that are particular to the Sea of Cortez. One of the Van Wormer boys, Bobby, I think, bought in with Lupe and the factory, on the outskirts of Los Barrilles, is now called Van-Diaz Pangas and is a truly modern factory which has now expanded into the charter fisherman that is so common to charter boat operations on the East Cape.

Don Alley - 3-24-2010 at 12:33 PM

We have one of the 23' Diaz pangas that Pescador refers to. Looks kinda like this:



shari - 3-24-2010 at 03:25 PM

Juan says..."Que bonita lancha!!"

bajabass - 3-25-2010 at 05:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Don Alley
We have one of the 23' Diaz pangas that Pescador refers to. Looks kinda like this:


You are a fortunate man! One heck of a boat! That boat says "take me fishing". I may have to reconsider taking the center console with me to La Paz, just sell it, hide the cash, and pick up a panga when I move down. :?::light:

LaTijereta - 3-25-2010 at 07:09 PM

Here is our 22' model.. Still running after 28 years
We are into our 4th motor...