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Permanent Location in Baja ??

oldjack - 4-6-2010 at 09:13 AM

I am looking for a permanent location in Baja(maybe north central or BCS)... having maintained a palapa and such in Los Barriles for the past four years I have come to the conclusion that I want a little more space and a lot more quiet than what I have.... I like the towns of Santiago, Mira Flores but am not so familiar with towns that may be similar but further north... I am rapidly approaching (read with EXTREME caution/trepridation) my retirement.... the choice of retirement is mine spurred by some subtle health issues that made me focus on less money and more time.... I want to become part of a Mexican communtiy, have a garden and spend at least 7-8 months a year in the choosen locale.. I need to be within an hour of medical facilities. I do not want to be anywhere near(150 miles of the border w/USA and I like the Cortes side) My fantasy place is at least two bedrooms/bath with an ample yard for my gardening.... and if I go real native some chickens and a pet burro... I would expect to sell my palapa improvements and invest in the new place and would hope to have it done by November.... 12.31.10 is my bailout date.... Nomads seems to have a lot of inside information and are usually not bashful about sharing so .... please.... could I have your input

[Edited on 4-6-2010 by oldjack]

DENNIS - 4-6-2010 at 09:17 AM

Jack....Are you looking to rent or buy?

oldjack - 4-6-2010 at 09:43 AM

rent then buy... but quickly if it is the right location..............

boe4fun - 4-6-2010 at 09:43 AM

Check out Shari's post under real estate available: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=44989

ligui - 4-6-2010 at 11:57 AM

If you want to go native , take a look at the little village of ligui, just south of loreto , there are some lots and acouple of old mexican homes one could look into . Chickens are part of the family here .

Yes there will be a large resort in ensenada blanca but the village of ligui will not be affected other then some jobs for the locals . The resorts would rather keep themselfs apart as much as posssible.

hope you find that special spot , this has been mine for years , got baja !

Ligui

bajafreaks - 4-6-2010 at 01:47 PM

Oldjack where is your place in L.B. ?

Oggie - 4-6-2010 at 03:00 PM

Jack,
If you are considering Bahia de los Angeles drop an email to my friend Salvador. He knows what is available in Bahia.

Salvador Juarez [paraisolands@hotmail.com]

rhintransit - 4-6-2010 at 03:13 PM

being within an hour of medical attention (note I did not say what quality of medical attention) is going to severely limit your available choices. do you have a stable but ongoing chronic condition the local docs could handle or do you need to be somewhere with higher level care? do you potentially need medical evacuation? the type of medical care you need could potentially be the deciding factor.

Russ - 4-6-2010 at 03:15 PM

Punta Chivato has a lot of discounted places for sale now but if your hospital/medical needs require specialist this wouldn't work for you. Oh, and it's definitely not a Mexican community.
Maybe San Bruno where Pescador lives?

Bajahowodd - 4-6-2010 at 03:27 PM

The medical needs thing really does need to be elaborated upon. The fact that Los Barriles is not quiet enough for you really limits your options when the medical needs thing is factored in. As someone inferred in an earlier post, if you are in Baja and not close to the US border, you really have to be careful about your health needs. Fact is that La Paz has the best medical facilities in Baja, and yet, there have been a number of folks familiar with the La Paz area that readily state that in the case of serious illness, La Paz won't measure up to facilities in the states.

bajabass - 4-6-2010 at 04:28 PM

The only real constraint is medical. I would get any information on your current condition, meds, ect. Along with a U.S. doctors list of possible complications, and service level needed to address them. Pay to have all that info translated into Spanish. Unless it is a very simple condition, La Paz may be your only choice on the SOC side. Limited facilities in Santa Rosalia, Mulege, Loreto for anything serious. Hit the hospitals and clinics and see how far their services go towards your needs. One hour north or south of La Paz should get quiet enough for you. Good Luck!!!

comitan - 4-6-2010 at 05:35 PM

oldjack

I would look at an area southeast of La Paz, Los Planes, Agua Amarga, or San Pedro, real country living inexpensive, 5miles from fishin, 25 miles medical La Paz, If you have to live on the water or Ocean view and can afford it,try Ventanna, or El Sargento same area.

DENNIS - 4-6-2010 at 06:22 PM

Hey, jack....not trying to be nosey, but what is your medical problem?

capt. mike - 4-6-2010 at 07:35 PM

are you wanting one locale?

my problem with baja is you have 2 choices:

too hot 1/2 the year in parts.

too cold 1/2 the year in parts.
:lol::saint::fire:

k-rico - 4-7-2010 at 07:35 AM

"I need to be within an hour of medical facilities. I do not want to be anywhere near (150 miles of the border w/USA)"

Sounds like the La Paz, Todos Santos, and Los Cabos areas are it if you mean one hour within a variety of doctors and medical equipment and the Ensenada area is too close to the border. And as has been pointed out even those cities do not have the full range of medical services, but almost everything, and they do have airports if you need and can utilize them for non-emergency major medical care.

Check out Ensenada, it doesn't fall into the "border town" category and has some very nice urban and suburban neighborhoods. Also has San Diego like weather and an hour or two drive from the US.

And, there are some great rental/purchase options right now between TJ and Ensenada along the coast.

"When there's blood in the streets, buy real estate." - Baron Rothschild

And it's not all that bloody. (Today, but it's early.)


[Edited on 4-7-2010 by k-rico]

Donjulio - 4-7-2010 at 07:50 AM

Oldjack - I would suggest narrowing it down and then renting. One reason to rent is to make sure that is where you want to be and also to give you ample time to make sure you don't find an area you like better in the same town.

The other reason is that real estate prices will probably continue to drop for another 2-3 years minimum. You will be able to buy at pennies on the dollar later.

jorgie - 4-7-2010 at 07:58 AM

Jack , you described Bahia Asuncion as your pick . Yes , there is medical and when it's spoken of as "cold" , I've wandered around in shorts and tee shirt in mid "winter" . It's a community , a fit is a fit . Gardens do grow there .

DianaT - 4-7-2010 at 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by jorgie
Jack , you described Bahia Asuncion as your pick . Yes , there is medical and when it's spoken of as "cold" , I've wandered around in shorts and tee shirt in mid "winter" . It's a community , a fit is a fit . Gardens do grow there .


Gardens grow there if you are right in town and or away from the ocean. With the exception of our tomatoes, most things need to be really protected from the wind and the salt.

It can get quite cold and windy, especially this time of the year, but then the next day might be perfect. The weather changes from day to day, in fact it can change from hour to hour. But it is definitely an all year place.

It is a great and very accepting community---old fashion, fishing village. The women still wear their clothes when they swim. We have made some really good friends among the locals.

But, if good medical is a real concern, it is very limited in Bahia Asuncion. There is a small hospital with not much there---not even an x-ray machine. For anything close to serious, people are taken to Guerrero Negro and then often on to La Paz or Ensenada.

We have checked into the idea of Medical Evacuation, but even for that, one would need to go to Guerrero Negro---we have not found one that will land on dirt strips. It is a consideration.

Good Luck

[Edited on 4-7-2010 by DianaT]

gnukid - 4-7-2010 at 10:01 AM

Jack

You mentioned Santiago and Mireflores which have excellent community, great soil and an existing gardening culture, both are cooler than surrounding regions with lots of trees and fresh water. The cities have the advantage of being near your old neighborhood in case you want to visit, they are close to the airport, close to San Jose. It's really a prime zone with low costs and lots of resources, not to mention the people are awesome. You could even go up in the mountains and ranch it!

Have fun

Pescador - 4-7-2010 at 10:06 AM

Well, this will stir it up a little bit, but I find Asuncion too cold for my liking for a better part of the year, so I prefer the Sea of Cortez side. The area around San Lucas / San Bruno has been my choice and is only too hot in August / September. As long as you don't feel the need to be right on the water, there are lots of nice areas to build in with good space for you burro and chickens and costs of land and building are only a portion of what they would be in the more developed areas. The hospital in Santa Rosalia is making great strides at becoming a more acceptable medical facility and the docotrs and specialists available in Santa Rosalia are very good. Stores, for groceries, supplies, and materials are very well stocked and we don't usually find any shortages. Two banks make the financial end of things go smoothly. If you need to go to the border, it is about 12 hours by car and if you are dealing with any more serious medical conditions then it is always a good idea to have medical evacuation insurance.

DianaT - 4-7-2010 at 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Pescador
Well, this will stir it up a little bit, but I find Asuncion too cold for my liking for a better part of the year, so I prefer the Sea of Cortez side. The area around San Lucas / San Bruno has been my choice and is only too hot in August / September. As long as you don't feel the need to be right on the water, there are lots of nice areas to build in with good space for you burro and chickens and costs of land and building are only a portion of what they would be in the more developed areas. The hospital in Santa Rosalia is making great strides at becoming a more acceptable medical facility and the docotrs and specialists available in Santa Rosalia are very good. Stores, for groceries, supplies, and materials are very well stocked and we don't usually find any shortages. Two banks make the financial end of things go smoothly. If you need to go to the border, it is about 12 hours by car and if you are dealing with any more serious medical conditions then it is always a good idea to have medical evacuation insurance.


You are not the only one who finds Asuncion too cold ---we just prefer the cooler weather. And you do have better services over there. :biggrin: