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Great House For Sale N of B. d. Gonzaga

bufeo - 5-2-2010 at 09:31 AM

DISCLAIMER—I have no financial affiliation with the Sellers of this property.

I discovered that friends of ours are selling their place in Campo Brisamar, Baja Norte, about eight miles north of Punta Bufeo (roughly 32 miles south of Puertecitos). These friends are not familiar with the Nomad Forum (yeah, I know, there are some…:).) and I suggested that I place a link http://www.viviun.com/AD-147022/ to their sale here.

We know their house well and it’s absolutely beautiful. Having had a place at Pta Bufeo for nine years, I can vouch for the benefits of purchasing something ‘turnkey’ as we did and as the Sellers here are offering.

The headaches of construction, transporting, and storing vanish. Even though the road is now paved to within a few miles of this house and the aforementioned headaches are less, being able to bring your food and begin enjoying the amenities immediately are well worth the extra cost.

I remember arriving at our place, opening up house and garage, turning on the water, lighting the water heaters (salt and fresh), then kicking back with a cold adult beverage within twenty minutes of alighting from our vehicle.

Having the extra goodies (i.e. boat, vehicle, ATVs, etc.) is another MAJOR advantage that can't be overemphasized.

I’ll try to persuade the Sellers to log-on to Nomad just in case there are any questions.

Allen R

[Edited on 5-2-2010 by bufeo]

willardguy - 5-2-2010 at 09:43 AM

im only six numbers away!!

Packoderm - 5-2-2010 at 10:26 AM

What is the fidiecomiso / lease / rent / handshake agreement / eventual confiscation situation with the property?

bufeo - 5-2-2010 at 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by Packoderm
What is the fidiecomiso / lease / rent / handshake agreement / eventual confiscation situation with the property?


I believe they have ownership BWO a Mexican Corp. Not certain though. The ad states "deeded" and, knowing the owners well, they've crossed the Ts and dotted the Is. I'm sure it's not just a handshake with "confiscation" down the line.

Allen R

tripledigitken - 5-3-2010 at 12:54 AM

That is a beautiful home. Some of the nicest masonry work I have seen in Baja.

Good luck with the sale.

Ken

capt. mike - 5-3-2010 at 07:03 AM

i'll bet someone WILL plunk down caja mejor for that deal - very unique - try to touch that in the states for 2-3 X the asking $$s.

too bad there's no strip adjacent it would open the market for potential buyers to the airplane drivers.....everybody knows they are loaded.... hahahaha.:rolleyes:

capt. mike - 5-3-2010 at 07:24 AM

whoops - i stand corrected - there is an airstrip adjacent.
Allen - is that the old Encantadas strip or El Huerfanito? i thot it was no more.

i'll send this to some pilots whom i know are looking but never play here.
do they need an on-site caretaker??

capt. mike - 5-3-2010 at 07:45 AM

Allen - i'll post this on BBP for ya.
maybe get a syndicate to take it. 10 owners would get 5 weeks a year plenty of time... and affordable.

bufeo - 5-3-2010 at 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by capt. mike
whoops - i stand corrected - there is an airstrip adjacent.
Allen - is that the old Encantadas strip or El Huerfanito? i thot it was no more.

i'll send this to some pilots whom i know are looking but never play here.
do they need an on-site caretaker??


Hey Mike.

I'm not sure of the name of airstrip. It's not Encantadas and it's not El Huerfanito. I do know that Juan Pablo (owner of the campo) did all the paperwork and that it's a viable airstrip. One of the homeowners in that campo has a plane and I'm SURE that it's a viable (i.e. 'certified' ) airstrip.

I wouldn't think a caretaker is necessary, since there are neighbors (foreign and Mexican nationals) who are year-round residents. Of course if a syndicate bought it, they might want someone on site to chill the beer before arrival. :lol:

When we sold our place at Bufeo several folks told us we were 'undervalued'. Maybe so. I think it's all a matter of whether Seller and Buyer are happy with the deal.

This particular place is larger and has more amenities that ours did, and I can tell you that we were very happy with our sale. I say 'sale'. Ours was on leased property so we 'sold' the improvements and personal property.

Ken (above post) is correct when he says the masonry is "some of the nicest" he's seen in Baja. I concure. It's exceptional. I don't know where Don J is coming from with his off-the-cuff remark about the price.

Thanks again, Mike, for putting this on the BBP site. A syndicate would make a lot of sense for a spot like this one. A small syndicate (4 partners) purchased ours and I think that is working out extremely well.

Allen R

P.S. Mike, it's time you come up Idaho way for a visit. Maybe get out of that Valley Heat this summer. Nice airstrip not far from our place, and the Hailey-Ketchum airport is not too far.

[Edited on 5-3-2010 by bufeo]

capt. mike - 5-3-2010 at 09:34 AM

might just do it. have an invite to Roseburg too. Got a surf trip to scorpion bay in july to knock off 1st. unless they flake.
can you get me the lat longs?
i just had 2 email me on it.

but got a conflicted message from BJ about the "landlord"?

bufeo - 5-3-2010 at 11:18 AM

I can get the lat/long. Will do.

Also, I sent you an email about a matter unrelated to Baja.

Allen R

capt. mike - 5-3-2010 at 01:01 PM

thx got it and BJ is very helpful.

capt. mike - 5-3-2010 at 03:55 PM

it is Paradones. not in the old senterfit guides but Galen surveyed it in his 1997 ed.
someone is asking me - is the pavement that far south of Puertocitas yet?
the 32 miles?
if so it is a big plus for ground pounders.
google earth is not clear.

bufeo - 5-3-2010 at 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by capt. mike...
someone is asking me - is the pavement that far south of Puertocitas yet?...


Friends in the Brisamar-Punta Bufeo neighborhood tell me that the pavement has reached to w/in 5 mi of the Campo Los Delfines (the turnoff for Brisamar, too), and construction is on-going.

Yeah, a real plus for the "ground-pounders".

Allen R

Campo Brisamar

Stiktime - 5-4-2010 at 02:43 PM

Camp owner not to be trusted ! Has confiscation history.! Be very, very careful with this guy ! PM me if you want detailsl

mtgoat666 - 5-4-2010 at 02:58 PM

that's a lot of money to put into a house without some sort of iron-clad title.

Bajahowodd - 5-4-2010 at 04:24 PM

Agree. It is a helluva sweet looking property, however. But, I guess, as the old axiom goes, if you can afford to spend that kind of money and still walk away, go for it!

wessongroup - 5-4-2010 at 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Agree. It is a helluva sweet looking property, however. But, I guess, as the old axiom goes, if you can afford to spend that kind of money and still walk away, go for it!


Ditto's

Timo1 - 5-4-2010 at 04:41 PM

I'm about a half a million short for that place....anyone float a loan ???:lol:

it's in a mex corp

capt. mike - 5-4-2010 at 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
that's a lot of money to put into a house without some sort of iron-clad title.


to be transfered to a fideo upon transfer, or during the process.
Mexican Atty (Mexicali one who formed the orig) is retained by the owners)

Yes it is a lot of money, asking. Closing $$s is another matter.

what title anywhere is iron clad? that's why insurance is available. Stewart writes more than any other agency.

Bajahowodd - 5-4-2010 at 05:33 PM

Let's assume that this property IS free and clear and a Fideo can give a buyer a long term guaranty, would love to hear from folks in the general vicinity as to whether this is not simply an overbuilt property for the surroundings. just wondering. Perhaps, I'm way off base here, but given the high end touches, is this not really a place that one would buy to live in, as opposed to making it a rental?

capt. mike - 5-4-2010 at 07:53 PM

there's only a handful of homes there - all are top flight. nothing like the Gonzaga and punta final strips.
nothing against thoses - i love trailer / palapa style.

the people that built at Brisa del Mar obviously have means....substantial means.

i know of several syndicated deals at San Carlos. they work well and give the partners substantial bennies for a fraction of the total cost.

bufeo - 5-5-2010 at 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by Stiktime
Camp owner not to be trusted ! ...
Easy there, amigo, yours would probably not be considered an "unbiased opinion". If you give "details", be sure to give the "rest of the story".
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Originally posted by capt mike...all top flight (houses)...
Yes there are. Same with some of the places in Campos Polmo, Punta Bufeo, and Encantadas. Nice places on a really nice beach.

Allen R

here's some data

capt. mike - 5-5-2010 at 09:35 AM

from my guide

capt. mike - 5-5-2010 at 09:42 AM

i only count about 6 or so homes plus the prop owners have some out buildings.
just the logistics of building that level of quality so remote blows my mind.

i would love to be there one day.
it's so close to phx yet so far at the same time.
with the road going paved, the enchanted islands so close..... i would build beach hotel in a heart beat. full services, fishing diving etc.

tennis...what else? oh - a pool and commons palapa w/ swim up bar.
do it all like at El Barril.
why not? the road's coming. the people there need jobs and the county could use tax revenue.

i risk further alienating many preservationists here...too bad. progress comes as it can - just the way it is. or else? why would they be paving the road - because it is THEIR country - not ours.

mtgoat666 - 5-5-2010 at 10:28 AM

capt cracker:
you sure are an eager and enthusiastic lookie-loo.
you must drive RE agents nuts with all your questions and enthusiasm but low deal flow.

capt. mike - 5-5-2010 at 10:58 AM

yeah, it's why my deals work - the investment in time = due diligence = no stupid mistakes or surprizes.
people do what you INSPECT never what you EXPECT.

if you had access to my pipeline you'd know - well maybe not, it likely is far too complicated for you to comprehend.

Real Estate is a game of inches, just like football. Agents have to work for a close. i like to ensure they earn it on anything i may move on.
the diference is my partners and investment associates pay.

going down soon...email me!

steekers - 5-6-2010 at 09:44 PM

Capt Mike:

Email me to discuss

capt. mike - 5-7-2010 at 05:36 AM

mike - i am leaving in about 3 hours for mulege.
send me a u2u here with your email addy i don't have it on my laptop.
lets meet south when you go.

lots to discuss (NPI) about this particular deal. i have made in roads with residents past and present. next is a structured meeeting with the strip owner.

steekers - 5-7-2010 at 09:30 AM

I just sent you an email...will be down there on the 15th

capt. mike - 5-8-2010 at 06:25 AM

got it. can't meet you then so stay in touch.

jak - 5-8-2010 at 07:02 AM

What is u2u ??

:lol:

BajaDave - 10-27-2010 at 03:15 AM

Is this home still for sale?

N29º54.5' W114º27.18'

David K - 10-27-2010 at 07:47 AM

Punta Bufeo runway is in Galen's book Capt. Mike. I also included it when I did a thread of all the old/ new airports in Baja Norte here on Nomad.

On Google Earth, view north:



view south:

capt. mike - 10-27-2010 at 01:00 PM

what? did i have a Q?
i have landed at bufeo several times. know it well. bad winds.

David K - 10-27-2010 at 04:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by capt. mike
what? did i have a Q?
i have landed at bufeo several times. know it well. bad winds.


Sorry Capt., I read your reply to Bufeo on 5-3:

"too bad there's no strip adjacent it would open the market for potential buyers to the airplane drivers.....everybody knows they are loaded.... hahahaha"

before I realized Bufeo wan't talking about a place for sale in Punta Bufeo, but a few clicks north.

;D

bufeo - 1-24-2011 at 07:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K... I realized Bufeo wan't[sic] talking about a place for sale in Punta Bufeo, but a few clicks north.
;D


Yep, and I just got word the price has been reduced significantly to $330,000.00. Interested parties may wish to follow the original http://www.viviun.com/AD-147022/ to view details.

Allen R

Paulina - 1-24-2011 at 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by capt. mike

...do it all like at El Barril.


El Capitan,

What happened at El Barril? The last time I was there it was still old school. I think the big house on the hill was for sale? Has development moved in?

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