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S.F. water well spike supplier ?

cj5orion - 7-2-2010 at 01:56 PM

Anybody know ?
I'm down in Gonzaga,a buds coming down Weds aft.
Is there someplace in SF he can purchase a well spike ?

Bob and Susan - 7-2-2010 at 02:13 PM

for us simpletons...

what is a well spike:?:

Alan - 7-2-2010 at 02:22 PM

Spiking water wells?? Hmmm, Jose Cuervo?

cj5orion - 7-2-2010 at 02:31 PM

C'mon Gang !
Ya dig a hole in the ground,down to saltwater,ya put a spike down there attached to some pipe,ya pump the saltwater into a RO system for fresh water.
A well spike is nothing more than a pipe with a "pointy" end on it,with holes in it.

Cypress - 7-2-2010 at 04:00 PM

It's a filter.

bonanza bucko - 7-2-2010 at 07:27 PM

CJ:
I don't know about a place in SF...but if you already have one and it doesn't suck you probably got salted up...it happens sitting unused. The Fix is to pour some muriatic acid down the spike. If you don't have any go see Barney and he will....if he doesn't I have some and he knows where it is in my garage.

Bonanza Bucko.

fishabductor - 7-2-2010 at 08:12 PM

How much a system like this run. What is the output daily in gallons?

Paulclark - 7-2-2010 at 08:48 PM

A driven-point well – sometimes called a “sand point” – is a small diameter well made by connecting lengths of 1-1/4” or 2” diameter steel pipe together ...

supplier--- http://www.ronshomeandhardware.com/1-1-4x30-Well-Point-p/237...

It ain't legal...

Dave - 7-3-2010 at 01:06 AM

I wouldn't think.

bonanza bucko - 7-3-2010 at 03:44 AM

In Mexico where fresh water is scarce and where salt water under a beach house is only about 10 feet down a well point is how you get water to flush your toilets into your septic tank...a salt water septic tank. You can also make fresh from salt with an RO system if you have a generator to power it.

You sink a sand point by wetting the sand so it won't cave in and then digging down as far as you can without the hole falling in...usually about four feet. Then you attach the well point to about 15 feet of steel pipe and drive it into the sand as far as you can....you use a well point ram...bigger pipe with a lead weight on one end.

Then you connect the well point and well pipe to a water pump...gas or electric if you have solar or generator power...and pump the salt water to a tank on your roof....ta Da!! toilet water.

Then you have to install pvc innards to your toilet because the Gringo pot metal parts will stop working in the salt water in about a week.

BB

cj5orion - 7-3-2010 at 04:53 AM

How about El Centro suppliers ?
A bud's coming down from San Diego on Wednesday,,,he'll bring me a spike,,,,jus need to know where I can pick one up ?mail order/on-line is no good.

Russ - 7-3-2010 at 06:10 AM

I've never heard of this before but it sure makes sense down here.

well spike.jpg - 36kB

cj5orion - 7-3-2010 at 06:54 AM

WOW ! I'm really surprised at how many oeople dont know what this is all about !!! Down here in Gonzaga.......its a fairly common subject.

(I was gonna say "its a well known "tool"") but I thought that was too much of a pun :no:

El Camote - 7-3-2010 at 07:41 AM

This is interesting, something I didn't know about either. Something else I always wondered about - if salt water is reached just 10 feet down, how is a septic tank dug? Is it possible for it to leach out or do you have to have it pumped out often?

Getting Watered Down

MrBillM - 7-3-2010 at 08:40 AM

Ten Feet.

That's dependent on the tide, of course.

AND, that's why it works so well at Alfonsina's where the houses are so close to sea-level on the higher tides.

It's a Well that works well, especially nowadays.

3464james - 7-4-2010 at 07:46 PM

With all of the ag supppliers in El Centro, should be able to find one at a pump store pretty easy. I got mine at a pump company up here in Eureka. I was too lazy to dig down, just put a pipe on the end and pounded the puppy down.

How's the weather, when it hit 117 we left. We are planning on returning in November, If I can bring something then, give me a holler.
Jim D.

Bajatripper - 7-9-2010 at 08:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cj5orion
WOW ! I'm really surprised at how many oeople dont know what this is all about !!!



What an ethnocentric point-of-view. If you know about it, it must be common knowledge to all. Instead of being amazed at our ignorance, you should be pleased at having the opportunity to share your know how, as most Nomads would be.

Terry28 - 7-10-2010 at 09:25 AM

I have always thought that if you used salt water in your septic system it would kill off all the "good" bacteria....true or false??

Bob and Susan - 7-10-2010 at 10:45 AM

true

and

also polute

all you're doing is "washing" the poop before it goes into the sea

salt water septic tanks are required to be "sealed" and "pumped out"

bonanza bucko - 7-12-2010 at 08:48 AM

RE Salt water septic tanks: We have one that is over 25 years old...never been pumped and never failed. It has good leach lines...and it is in sand where salt water intrudes around it at high tide. It gets a dose of "Once a Year" septic tank treatment every three months or so...it smells bad out the vent pipe in the outfall line...so I know it's working. There are a great many others like it in our neighborhood.

What makes you think that salt water will kill all those hungry bugs down there?...they work just fine in the ocean too.

BB :-)

bonanza bucko - 7-12-2010 at 09:00 AM

Another input re salt water septic tanks: Here's a University of Wisconsin study that says the salt from a water softener HELPS a septic tank work. Probably not the same dose of sodium as a flush with salt water but it's another input from a source that isn't just anecdotal.

http://extension.missouri.edu/webster/ag-edge/waste-home/wat...

I still like the fact that ours is 25+ years old and cooking right along...as are a bunch belonging to neighbors.

BB :-)

fishabductor - 7-12-2010 at 09:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bonanza bucko
Another input re salt water septic tanks: Here's a University of Wisconsin study that says the salt from a water softener HELPS a septic tank work. Probably not the same dose of sodium as a flush with salt water but it's another input from a source that isn't just anecdotal.

http://extension.missouri.edu/webster/ag-edge/waste-home/wat...

I still like the fact that ours is 25+ years old and cooking right along...as are a bunch belonging to neighbors.

BB :-)



25+ years of dumping raw sewage into the ocean you mean.

Everywhere I just read online about introducing salt into a
septic system says it kills the bacteria, same with water softener salt.