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Another Distressing Event in Rosarito

Gypsy Jan - 7-28-2010 at 07:17 AM

This just in from a friend, who wishes not to be named.

“A home on the side of a hill, with no neighbors, a nice house....change that to past tense, it WAS a nice house. The owners went to the U.S. for the weekend.

When they returned they found that bandits had stripped the house of everything, down to removing the toilets, wash basins, light fixtures, alarm system, all appliances including the water heaters, heater, garage door openers, the garage doors and furniture, of course. Even the aluminum windows frames, light sockets and switches.

This was a Mexican version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed, even a picket fence and gate around the garden, the water hose, sprinklers and electric lines running to the house, the door mats and door handles, doors and hinges:The Works. Only the physical bare house and light meter was left behind. The idiots had no fence, no dogs, no one to look after the property. STUPID”

Udo - 7-28-2010 at 07:21 AM

This must have been a group of several people stripping the house clean, plus some kind of moving van. That's a lot of stuff to move!

bajaguy - 7-28-2010 at 07:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
This just in from a friend, who wishes not to be named.

“A home on the side of a hill, with no neighbors, a nice house....change that to past tense, it WAS a nice house. The owners went to the U.S. for the weekend.

When they returned they found that bandits had stripped the house of everything, down to the...alarm system....





Might need to have a chat with the alarm system company....

Bob H - 7-28-2010 at 07:40 AM

Yes, the alarm company....

Ya know, this story just seems hard to believe! How remote was this place? And, I agree, it was crazy to know have someone watching the place, or even staying there while the owners were gone.

noproblemo2 - 7-28-2010 at 07:45 AM

YIKES, Yet again, Did they have security bars ?

[Edited on 7-28-2010 by noproblemo2]

DENNIS - 7-28-2010 at 07:47 AM

Sounds as though the scum knew they were going to be gone a while.
If the owners rebuild from this event, they have more guts than I would. They should cut their losses and get out.

[Edited on 7-28-2010 by DENNIS]

DENNIS - 7-28-2010 at 07:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by noproblemo2
YIKES, Yet again, Did they have security bars ?



If they did, they were probably stolen as well. They arn't a real deterrent anyway. You can pop them out of a block wall with a crowbar.

Timo1 - 7-28-2010 at 07:53 AM

Sure sounds like someone that knew they would be gone
a "friend" ??
I doubt 6 or 8 guys were just driving around in a moving van
and saw a picket fence they liked and decided to do the whole
house

noproblemo2 - 7-28-2010 at 07:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by noproblemo2
YIKES, Yet again, Did they have security bars ?



If they did, they were probably stolen as well. They arn't a real deterrent anyway. You can pop them out of a block wall with a crowbar.

True, but kinda think someone knew when they would be gone and for how long also.... Seems it may have been planned.

BajaBlanca - 7-28-2010 at 08:08 AM

gosh...how devastating and how invasive...just deplorable
:fire::fire::fire:

wessongroup - 7-28-2010 at 08:12 AM

Thanks for another wake up call .... it all helps..

Lobsterman - 7-28-2010 at 08:31 AM

This is called "Mexican Roulette" Whose next?

bajamigo - 7-28-2010 at 08:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan

This was a Mexican version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed, even a picket fence and gate around the garden, the water hose, sprinklers and electric lines running to the house, the door mats and door handles, doors and hinges:The Works.


If I were Mexican, I'd resent this remark.

All Mexicans are crooks

mcfez - 7-28-2010 at 08:35 AM

This was a Mexican version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed....."

Rarely do I say anything here. Your report suggest that ALL Mexicans are thieves. If my home home in California was stripped down, would your report say..

This was a Californian version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed...."

Perhaps it's time here to stop generalizing the Mexican population whether its done intentionally or accidentally.

DianaT - 7-28-2010 at 08:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajamigo
Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan

This was a Mexican version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed, even a picket fence and gate around the garden, the water hose, sprinklers and electric lines running to the house, the door mats and door handles, doors and hinges:The Works.


If I were Mexican, I'd resent this remark.


I sure cannot speak for someone else, but I am guessing that Gyspy Jan did not realize how bad that statement would sound --- it does sound insulting---not a good thing.

However, I have not seen anything she has written before that would be insulting. So I am guessing it was a mistake and not meant the way it reads?

Edited---thanks to pacside, can see where she is quoting someone else---should have seen that before as it sure did not sound like GJ.

[Edited on 7-28-2010 by DianaT]

noproblemo2 - 7-28-2010 at 08:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
This was a Mexican version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed....."

Rarely do I say anything here. Your report suggest that ALL Mexicans are thieves. If my home home in California was stripped down, would your report say..

This was a Californian version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed...."

Perhaps it's time here to stop generalizing the Mexican population whether its done intentionally or accidentally.

I think GJ just hadn't thought her words thru, let's give her a chance here, she has been thru a lot lately.

Woooosh - 7-28-2010 at 09:07 AM

"The idiots had no fence, no dogs, no one to look after the property. STUPID"

Agreed. No Mexican leaves their house empty and expects everything to be there when they return. This didn't happen in a few hours- it took time the victims gave them. There are bad guys on every street who act as lookouts for naive people like this. And I mean on EVERY street.

and not nearly as distressing as having the head of the Ministerial Police executed at the PGJE offices last night. Even though the PGJE here is absolutely corrupt (I know first hand), it sucks for their family to die like that.

[Edited on 7-28-2010 by Woooosh]

pacside - 7-28-2010 at 09:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
This just in from a friend, who wishes not to be named.

“A home on the side of a hill, with no neighbors, a nice house...."


Gypsy Jan was just passing on what someone else wrote. She didn't write the Home Depot quote.

pacside

durrelllrobert - 7-28-2010 at 09:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
If my home home in California was stripped down, would your report say..

This was a Californian version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed...."

Good point. There are many, many nationalities living in CA, just as there are in Mexico and to me the terms Californian and Mexicican does not imply that any particular nationality was involved. Not like when the news reports that the criminal was a black man or a Hispanic man

Let's give her a break

lookingandbuying - 7-28-2010 at 09:43 AM

Give Jan a break!! I have always enjoyed her previous posts. After what she went through I am sure her nerves are on end and the comment was not mean't to harm or demean the entire Mexican population...where she lives and interacts DAILY. I am sure if I explained the storey Jan did to any of the many Mexican friends I have they would have made a joke simular to the HomeDepot comment Jan did.

Let's appreciate the fact that she took the time to share the story so others can be more watchful over their possessions located in Mexico. A friend of mine has had copper stripped from his house and going through this type of thing is no fun, at all. Sure helps those selling PVC piping!!! :lol:

It happends all the time!

luisartrgz - 7-28-2010 at 09:48 AM

Its a shame they had to pass trough that!

still American Homes at mexico requires extra care! because thieves know that americans have expensive electric appliances and they in many cases bring stuff from across the border that could be better sold at the markets.

that aside it happends everywhere! not only in mexico Im pretty sure that if someone has a cabin at some US national park they have the same risks with no one watching the place or no dogs.

anyway Im Sorry for the shock it must be for them to find out they have been robbed its a hard feel even when its not that much of a loss!

as for the racist topic dont worry im mexican and even I feel ashamed for what some mexicans do time to time!

noproblemo2 - 7-28-2010 at 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by lookingandbuying
Give Jan a break!! I have always enjoyed her previous posts. After what she went through I am sure her nerves are on end and the comment was not mean't to harm or demean the entire Mexican population...where she lives and interacts DAILY. I am sure if I explained the storey Jan did to any of the many Mexican friends I have they would have made a joke simular to the HomeDepot comment Jan did.

Let's appreciate the fact that she took the time to share the story so others can be more watchful over their possessions located in Mexico. A friend of mine has had copper stripped from his house and going through this type of thing is no fun, at all. Sure helps those selling PVC piping!!! :lol:

I absolutely agree, she has been thru enough and this should serve as yet another reminder to be more alert and to take whatever precautions you can to protect yourself and your home.

knuckles - 7-28-2010 at 09:51 AM

So, things are heating up in Baja Norte once again. I have been feeling it in the air for the past month. It has been a partiuclarly bloody week and just the events on this board indicate that theft and home invasion robbery have increased dramatically, in just the nomad population. I am sure there are many others. Some recent events have hit very close to home for people who live nearby as well.

What does this say for our area? Do we continue to "ride it out" in hope of realizing our baja dreams? Is this backlash over the AZ law? Or just an increase of the same old -------- mentality?

We have been here 15 years and we have been very blessed not to have targeted personally. But when we moved in, a former neighbor told us to nail down everything and showed us where young boys had stolen the crome air caps right off his tires. It was a small thing, but an indication of how some people think. You and I would might never steal electricity, but here that practice is accepted and widespread. Where does it stop if you are not taught right from wrong. It means that anything you can get your hands on is yours to take.

How are we going to change that way of thinking? And is it our place to do it? We obviously have a different value system.

As I mentioned, its getting closer to home and more than a few friends and aqaintences have left. I see more and more really sweet little places for sale at reasonable prices from people who just want out.

Like I told the "Crazy One" once..... You have the choice to leave. (and if she is reading there are some nice Apts. in IB) Or we have the choice to stay and try to make a diffrence with those who live around us. Sometimes those around us make us see things in a different way.

Its really all about your comfort level. I never had an alarm system up in the states, so do I want to be a slave to security in baja? Not really. I have a Pit Bull that everyone seems to be afraid of, but he is really a lap dog. My neighbors little rat dogs do all the barking. What I call home sweet home might be a shack to others. Does that make me less of a target?

So Woooosh....when you say EVERY STREET, why do so many amercians live in such upscale houses. Why not level the playing field and live like the majority of the popluation here?

[Edited on 7-28-2010 by knuckles]

Just pointing out

mcfez - 7-28-2010 at 11:29 AM

My last response to Gypsy Jan was meant to "just point that out".........not take her the the gallows. I do indeed know that she is a kool kat.....I being here for years.

Funny.....I hear "all them Americans.........." all the time when in Europe....being herding up into a bad quote.

DENNIS - 7-28-2010 at 11:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez

Rarely do I say anything here. Your report suggest that ALL Mexicans are thieves. If my home home in California was stripped down, would your report say..

This was a Californian version of going to Home Depot and getting everything needed...."



That's exactly what I would say.

DENNIS - 7-28-2010 at 11:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by luisartrgz
still American Homes at mexico requires extra care! because thieves know that americans have expensive electric appliances and they in many cases bring stuff from across the border that could be better sold at the markets.



You haven't been to a Home Depot down here, have you. It's all here....the microwaves and toasters, moving off the shelves at a rapid rate. The gap has almost closed between our middle classes.

The point I do want to make is, Americans I don't believe are targeted because they have better toys. It's just that some of us are too trusting and leave ourselves vulnerable.
When you combo that with the fact that an investigation into the crime will not happen, the thieves are given an invitation they can't refuse. We could only make it more complete if we were to help them load their truck.

knuckles - 7-28-2010 at 12:04 PM

And if you cruise on up the road to La Gloria you will find the stripped plumbing, windows, cabinets, doors, etc. for sale at a good price.

Has anyone ever purchased those used building materials and wondered where they all came from and in such good condition?

Yeah, the whole thing sucks. Hope they had insurance.

toneart - 7-28-2010 at 12:37 PM

The Home Depot quote is one I could have passed on, as Jan did. I might have even originated it, knowing what I know about living in Mexico. I do not think it is a gross insult to all Mexicans, but I do see how someone might be offended. Sometimes people will overtly offend, and others may do so inadvertently. In this case, I believe it is neither. Being aware of the responsibility of PC, I can tell you that offending is not the intention.

To me,this statement does not infer that "all Mexicans" are thieves. What it does infer is that you are far more likely to lose your possessions if they are left unattended anywhere in Mexico than in The U.S. (In the U.S., it is more likely to happen if you live in an inner city or a poor neighborhood). It is more prevalent and more accepted by Mexican culture. These are Crimes of Opportunity. The thinking is: if you abandon your property, no matter the reason, someone more needy deserves to claim it as their own.

The victims are often Mexicans. Gringos are not targeted per se, other than they usually have more expensive stuff.

Have you ever noticed a vehicle that has to be abandoned by the side of a highway for awhile after being involved in an accident? This is due to, either they were injured and taken away, or because the vehicle was not operable. Well, that vehicle gets stripped of its contents and its parts very quickly. Others pass by and look the other way. Es la onda!

I am in no way justifying thievery. As others have pointed out, the reality of living in Mexico is that it is your responsibility to guard your possessions at all times. If you can't, you will often lose them. You just have to know this! :smug:

Timo1 - 7-28-2010 at 02:14 PM

There's another angle to this
A set-up by the home owners for insurance purposes
I know...Gonna hear some flack but SOMEONE knew when these people were
leaving and for how long...Should be an easy investigation to find out who
they told
Something just doesn't ring right with this

surfer jim - 7-28-2010 at 02:32 PM

Woooosh,

and not nearly as distressing as having the head of the Ministerial Police executed at the PGJE offices last night.

Do you have any more info on this? It sort of got lost in the mess.

[Edited on 7-28-2010 by surfer jim]

knuckles - 7-28-2010 at 03:01 PM

Oh yeah, that is very scary, my buddy who runs the loncheria just next door had just left 15 miniute earlier.

She got my attention with that post.

I confirmed by phone just now. Lots of action on the Blvd. And not good action.

JESSE - 7-28-2010 at 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by knuckles
So, things are heating up in Baja Norte once again.


Not true.

mtgoat666 - 7-28-2010 at 03:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by knuckles
So, things are heating up in Baja Norte once again.


No, July has been unseasonably cool.

knuckles - 7-28-2010 at 03:33 PM

Help me out Jessie.... Tell me its all going to be ok!

rts551 - 7-28-2010 at 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by toneart


To me,this statement does not infer that "all Mexicans" are thieves. What it does infer is that you are far more likely to lose your possessions if they are left unattended anywhere in Mexico than in The U.S. (In the U.S., it is more likely to happen if you live in an inner city or a poor neighborhood). It is more prevalent and more accepted by Mexican culture. These are Crimes of Opportunity. The thinking is: if you abandon your property, no matter the reason, someone more needy deserves to claim it as their own.



Brilliant. Please provide the facts that support this statement.

fishabductor - 7-28-2010 at 03:37 PM

This same thing happened to our home last year on the eastcape. They basically gutted the house. Took the appliances, dishes, clothes, cook books, food, vcrs, dvds, tvs, stereos...everything. They had the rest of the stuff boxed up and ready to go, but they got discovered before they could totally clean out everything. There were at least 4 different trucks involved and who knows how many individuals.

This was sickening and I didn't want to stay in MX. It is now been a year and I am over it and I love baja again...however....I am a lot more prepared and now I use a storage unit in town. and our home is never ever left alone.

However this happens in the states as well.

wessongroup - 7-28-2010 at 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by rts551
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart


To me,this statement does not infer that "all Mexicans" are thieves. What it does infer is that you are far more likely to lose your possessions if they are left unattended anywhere in Mexico than in The U.S. (In the U.S., it is more likely to happen if you live in an inner city or a poor neighborhood). It is more prevalent and more accepted by Mexican culture. These are Crimes of Opportunity. The thinking is: if you abandon your property, no matter the reason, someone more needy deserves to claim it as their own.



Brilliant. Please provide the facts that support this statement.


Don't make it to hard.. might slow up some..

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-28-2010 at 03:41 PM

If they had an alarm company monitoring their system and they notified the company when they were leaving and coming back I'd start looking for someone there. Just a thought!

If Any One Who Has Formed An Attitude Cares About the Truth

Gypsy Jan - 7-28-2010 at 03:47 PM

Please go back to my original post. It is framed in quotes. That means that I was quoting someone else. Yes, I know that to some people that kind of simile would be offensive, but I did not judge it or edit it out, believing that Nomads can handle varying ways of reporting events, even if the imagery used is expressed in a way that is offensive to them.

noproblemo2 - 7-28-2010 at 03:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Please go back to my original post. It is framed in quotes. That means that I was quoting someone else. Yes, I know that to some people that kind of simile would be offensive, but I did not judge it or edit it out, believing that Nomads can handle varying ways of reporting events, even if the imagery used is expressed in a way that is offensive to them.

GJ, Some of us did understand that, others well you see what happened, it is all how one interpets it. Thank you for posting this and helping to keep us aware of a rising situation.

wessongroup - 7-28-2010 at 05:00 PM

GJ, most can.. just another case of shoot the messenger... don't worry about it..

It does happen.. most just hope it does not happen to them.. have been robbed my self.. not here but in the states.. was working on a car.. had on my tools and stuff in a detached house behind where we lived..

Took the car, which I had just rebuilt the engine out for a test drive.. when I got back.. everything was gone.. I couldn't have been gone more than 15 to 20 minutes...

Even took my ski's.. and my "boots".. and one pole.. they left the other... :lol::lol:

bajaguy - 7-28-2010 at 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
.. have been robbed my self.. not here but in the states.. was working on a car.. had on my tools and stuff in a detached house behind where we lived..

Took the car, which I had just rebuilt the engine out for a test drive.. when I got back.. everything was gone.. I couldn't have been gone more than 15 to 20 minutes...

Even took my ski's.. and my "boots".. and one pole.. they left the other... :lol::lol:





Wiley, Wiley, Wiley......you were not "robbed" you were the victim of a burglary or a theft.

wessongroup - 7-28-2010 at 05:23 PM

ok, ok, wrong words again.. but, it was sure gone when I got back..

bajaguy - 7-28-2010 at 05:52 PM

And that's all that counts!!!!!!

Osprey - 7-28-2010 at 05:58 PM

No that's not all that counts. In the states if you just leave things laying around, your insurance might not cover it. If somebody threatens you, it could be covered.

bajaguy - 7-28-2010 at 06:21 PM

With the right insurance, anything taken out of your yard is covered..........and if anyone threatens me, they are the one who will need the insurance

Osprey - 7-28-2010 at 06:32 PM

Boy, I wish that made sense. Have another 50 drinks.

DENNIS - 7-28-2010 at 06:34 PM

Can I have one?

Mexicorn - 7-28-2010 at 06:45 PM

Dont sweat it Jan your a kind person.

Peace

Marc - 7-28-2010 at 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by soulpatch
Thank dog the PC police are out.
I would say the shopping trip reference was probably inspired by the acceptance of institutionalized corruption and other societal "norms" south of the border.
When did everybody become such PC pu*sies? Oh, probably around the same time that the face of America became fat people everywhere.


Maybe they weren't Mexican. They could have been Mongolian or Eskimo or maybe even Sudanese?????:lol:

Woooosh - 7-28-2010 at 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by knuckles
So Woooosh....when you say EVERY STREET, why do so many amercians live in such upscale houses. Why not level the playing field and live like the majority of the popluation here?

[Edited on 7-28-2010 by knuckles]


Well, my first thought is not many well-off Americans plan to retire into what most Americans would consider poverty. OK, def a third world retirement plan with the exception of the border and tourist resorts. Most retirees aren't rich- and they need to make their limited incomes go further. Some live on nice streets, but most live in modest houses, RV's or Trailer parks. By the time you retire to Baja the material things aren't nearly as important as the living things in your life.

The other problem is architecture here. I went through two local builders for the house in Rosarito- they both showed me something like what you talk about- a Chula Vista-style with curved staircase and lots of windows. By the time you put bars on all the windows it would look like a Korean birdcage. It's what the local architects think we want. Personally, I built a house with plain unpainted block exterior walls and only one huge wood entrance door. (yes, we have an alternate escape route). You are right, the bigger American style houses and townhouses from the last building boom look and are out of place but I blame it on the Mexican Architects over-delivering a product they think we want to buy- not the buyers. (Aren't most of the cheesy ones still empty waiting for a buyer?) JMHO though

The Gull - 7-28-2010 at 09:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
Quote:
Originally posted by knuckles
So Woooosh....when you say EVERY STREET, why do so many amercians live in such upscale houses. Why not level the playing field and live like the majority of the popluation here?

[Edited on 7-28-2010 by knuckles]


Well, my first thought is not many well-off Americans plan to retire into what most Americans would consider poverty. OK, def a third world retirement plan with the exception of the border and tourist resorts. Most retirees aren't rich- and they need to make their limited incomes go further. Some live on nice streets, but most live in modest houses, RV's or Trailer parks. By the time you retire to Baja the material things aren't nearly as important as the living things in your life.

The other problem is architecture here. I went through two local builders for the house in Rosarito- they both showed me something like what you talk about- a Chula Vista-style with curved staircase and lots of windows. By the time you put bars on all the windows it would look like a Korean birdcage. It's what the local architects think we want. Personally, I built a house with plain unpainted block exterior walls and only one huge wood entrance door. (yes, we have an alternate escape route). You are right, the bigger American style houses and townhouses from the last building boom look and are out of place but I blame it on the Mexican Architects over-delivering a product they think we want to buy- not the buyers. (Aren't most of the cheesy ones still empty waiting for a buyer?) JMHO though


Once again, the degrading remarks about Koreans. This has been your style for your whole time on this board. What did a Korean ever do to you to get such a steady, sour message? How does a Korean birdcage differ from all other bird cages? What examples can you provide to support your statements? As long as racial remark slinging is the norm on this board, you appear to be an American hypocrite.

toneart - 7-28-2010 at 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by rts551
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart


To me,this statement does not infer that "all Mexicans" are thieves. What it does infer is that you are far more likely to lose your possessions if they are left unattended anywhere in Mexico than in The U.S. (In the U.S., it is more likely to happen if you live in an inner city or a poor neighborhood). It is more prevalent and more accepted by Mexican culture. These are Crimes of Opportunity. The thinking is: if you abandon your property, no matter the reason, someone more needy deserves to claim it as their own.



Brilliant. Please provide the facts that support this statement.



rts551-

These are my observations based on experience. Most people in this string are relating a similar opinion based on their experience. After all, that is what the subject is about; home invasions, burglaries and property loss.

The political correctness is a separate issue. Jan was quoting someone else. She has said so. Most have accepted that.

I, however, am offering a perspective based on personal experience, the experience of friends and conversation about same...real stories. I bear the responsibility of striving to be PC. To offend is not my agenda. You only quoted a portion of my post. Did you read the whole thing?

I am not a journalist. This is opinion. I do not have to support my opinions. If you disagree with my opinions, the onus is on you to pick them apart and tell us what it is you disagree with and why. And thank you for the "Brilliant". complement. :P:lol:

By the way, I did a search on you and found your posts to generally be pretty sensible, so I don't believe you have an ax to grind. So again, if you disagree, tell my why and we can discuss it.

I do have personal stories too. I am sure you do too. It goes with the territory (living in Mexico). My home in Mulege has never been burgled, but my vehicles have, my boat and also hotel rooms. Many neighbors down the river have been burgled, etc., etc., etc. I have traveled and lived in many different countries as well as several different parts of Mexico. My point of view has been validated by experience and observation and I am relating the reality of this subject.

Obviously, I still choose to live, part time, in Mexico and the parts of the culture I love far outweighs the negatives that this subject conjures.

Anybody else want to jump in here?

DENNIS - 7-28-2010 at 09:59 PM

Welcome back, Gull.
I'm sure Woooosh meant to say Lithuanian bird cage, but he's saving ink. He told me he's running short on the stuff.

toneart - 7-28-2010 at 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Welcome back, Gull.
I'm sure Woooosh meant to say Lithuanian bird cage, but he's saving ink. He told me he's running short on the stuff.


Stop lisping, Dennis! Are you trying to make fun of people with speech impediments?:spingrin:

DENNIS - 7-28-2010 at 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by toneart

Stop lisping, Dennis! Are you trying to make fun of people with speech impediments?:spingrin:


...........................................:lol:..................................................

Woooosh - 7-28-2010 at 10:49 PM

:bounce::bounce::bounce: even I missed the Gull- and I've never had a nice thing to say to about the flying rat. ;)

vgabndo - 7-29-2010 at 12:13 AM

I judge that some of you folks need a new discussion board. This is Baja Nomad. A nomad, should they find that their quality of life has been compromised by an influx of thugs and weasles, just rolls up the tent, or packs the camper, or hitches-up the trailer and moves to a safer place. (Most anyplace south of El Rosario???)

For 15 years I left my place in San Nicolas' unattended for at least 10 months every year. For security I had three screen doors. I never lost ANYTHING until TS Julio washed it out, the debris that was pillaged was taken by a couple of despicable gringos.

If one chooses to live in a crap hole part of the country, they just might get a little dung on them.

Be a Nomad, pack up, move on. Who would want to live behind bars, behind guard dogs, hiding in the dark with a flare gun in their sweaty palm afraid to walk outside?

There is a lot of good Baja out there. The TJ area is no more representative of Baja than BakersDiego is representative of Alta California.

wessongroup - 7-29-2010 at 12:33 AM

I like it.... no arguments at all.. seems my mind is willing, but my body is not able anymore..

Just thinking about it ... is pretty darn good... used to live that way long ago when I worked in line construction, transmission towers, distribution of electrical power, was 21 .. everything fit in my 1957 VW, including my old harman kardon receiver, garrard turntable and two AR4x speakers (think they were the 4's).. and my ski's.. used to rent furnished apartment or apartments.. followed the storms.. got see a lot of country..load up after a few days.. and go some place else..

Thanks been a while since I thought about that time in my life... wow.. long time ago..

[Edited on 7-29-2010 by wessongroup]

mercedes - 7-29-2010 at 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by vgabndo
A nomad, should they find that their quality of life has been compromised by an influx of thugs and weasles, just rolls up the tent, or packs the camper, or hitches-up the trailer and moves to a safer place.


How would you suggest we roll up a highrise condo in Rosarito?

jeans - 7-29-2010 at 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by toneart

These are Crimes of Opportunity. The thinking is: if you abandon your property, no matter the reason, someone more needy deserves to claim it as their own.

The victims are often Mexicans. Gringos are not targeted per se, other than they usually have more expensive stuff.

Have you ever noticed a vehicle that has to be abandoned by the side of a highway for awhile after being involved in an accident? This is due to, either they were injured and taken away, or because the vehicle was not operable. Well, that vehicle gets stripped of its contents and its parts very quickly. Others pass by and look the other way.


I remember a story Mike H. had written recalling an incident in the 60's or 70's. It involved someone whose car broke down in the remotest of places but he refused to leave it because a cherished television set was inside. The man explained that an abandoned car would be stripped for sure. Mike was sure that the man would have risked his life to stay with the car rather than lose that treasured TV set.

rts551 - 7-29-2010 at 09:22 AM

Sorry no second hand stories. I have had my car stolen, my house burglarized, and fraud attempted...ALL in the United States.

Visited Mexico for 50 years and have had a house there for 16 years. Only had one incident,,,,Tourists tried to camp on my porch to get out of the wind...Local Mexicans ran them off.

knuckles - 7-29-2010 at 10:05 AM

rts551
You just reminded me of my one incident.....

Got up in the morning to walk on the beach (yeah, mid-morning). As I am walking I see a family down the beach with a blue umbrella. In my slightly hungover state I realized that my patio looked a bit barren this morning. As I got closer I notice they have MY UMBRELLA and were having a nice little picnic on the beach. They had walked up on my patio, taken it out of the table and went on their way. Would they have brought it back? I didnt give them the chance as I reacted and repossed it on the spot.

Should have been more generous and let them borrow it to finish their plans? Or perhaps THEY should have knocked on the door and asked a perfect stranger to borrow their umbrella????

Who knows what people are thinking! I would not have had the balls to help myself to someone elses stuff, but I sure had the balls to take it back.

The Gull - 7-30-2010 at 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
:bounce::bounce::bounce: even I missed the Gull- and I've never had a nice thing to say to about the flying rat. ;)


That is flying Korean rat to you.

Marc - 7-31-2010 at 07:06 AM

I think the best course for me would be rent or lease and just walk after the big burgle. I could furnish with really cheap goods sold by the side of the road.:lol:

[Edited on 7-31-2010 by Marc]

Here is an alternate way to fix up your place and may be much less expensive.

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-31-2010 at 08:00 AM

http://www.habitat.org/env/restores.aspx

San Diego HFH ReStore
10222 San Diego Msn Rd.
San Diego, CA 92108
Phone: (619) 516-5267 x511
restore@sdhfh.org

MsTerieus - 7-31-2010 at 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
http://www.habitat.org/env/restores.aspx

How cool! Have you ever been there? Do they have any good stuff?

MsTerieus - 7-31-2010 at 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Welcome back, Gull.
I'm sure Woooosh meant to say Lithuanian bird cage, but he's saving ink. He told me he's running short on the stuff.


:lol::lol::lol:

ELINVESTIG8R - 7-31-2010 at 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by MsTerieus
Quote:
Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
http://www.habitat.org/env/restores.aspx

How cool! Have you ever been there? Do they have any good stuff?


Msterieus,

I have never been there, but just put it out here so anyone wanting to could go by when in San Diego to see if they can benefit from the place.

David

Woooosh - 7-31-2010 at 11:06 AM

uh oh... here we go

durrelllrobert - 8-1-2010 at 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by The Gull

That is flying Korean rat to you.

Jo eun jum shim gal mae gi:):)