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Losing all respect of my vinophile friends

Santiago - 8-2-2010 at 11:38 AM

Great Box White
This weekend we hosted a small party and I bought a 5 liter box of Peter Vella's Chardonnay, put it in various other wine bottles with labels removed that we had emptied over the last few months and set them out. As it was a warm afternoon, everyone started drinking the white wine and we got all sorts of great comments about the 'mystery white'. At the end of the evening I brought out the container.
At $13 for 5 liters, that's less than $2 per 750ml bottle with the added benefit of not having to go to Trader Joe's for two-buck-chuck and mingle with the aging hippies.

[Edited on 8-3-2010 by Santiago]

Bob and Susan - 8-2-2010 at 12:13 PM

it's called "two-buck chuck" :lol:

DENNIS - 8-2-2010 at 12:26 PM

Around 1965, when Rice-a-Roni came out with Spanish Rice, I made a big mess of it and took it down the street to a dinner party. People raved about....they absolutly loved the stuff.
A while after dinner, I devulged my secret and some of them frauds acted like I'd just poisened them.

gnukid - 8-2-2010 at 12:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Santiago
Great Box White
This weekend we hosted a small party and I bought a 5 liter box of Peter Vella's Chardonnay, put it in various other wine bottles with labels removed that we had emptied over the last few months and set them out. As it was a warm afternoon, everyone started drinking the white wine and we got all sorts of great comments about the 'mystery white'. At the end of the evening I brought out the container.
At $13 for 5 liters, that's less than $2 per 750ml bottle with the added benefit of not having to go to Trader Joe's for two-buck-chuck and mingle with the aging hippies.


Wine is affected by its exposure to its storage environment, light, oxygen can enter through poor quality cork. For some time, screw on caps have been used in southern France for this reason producing more stable affordable wine. These box wines are usually sealed with nitrogen directly from the barrel or vat and therefore are a far better storage and transportation container than a typical bottle and cork, except for the loss of the sentimental experience of handling a bottle and cork. So, by itself, there is nothing wrong or low quality with a box wine, and by filling and reusing bottles and corks for serving you have overcome the greatest objection (the lack of bottle and cork) thereby utilizing the best method of transport with the least likelihood of suffering exposure for a higher quality product.

toneart - 8-2-2010 at 01:08 PM

There is a pretty good wine from Napa produced under the family name, "Kappa". They put their wines in bottles with a screw cap. The name on the label: Screw Kappa Napa! This is a true story. Look for it.:yes:

BMG - 8-2-2010 at 01:21 PM

The other advantage to a wine sold in a foil bag in a box is that oxygen doesn't enter the container when you serve a glass. The shelf life* of an 'opened' box of wine is greater than an opened bottle of wine. Vacuum sealing the open bottle helps but you've still introduced oxygen to the wine.

Another big advantage for boaters is that the bags of vino store very well down in dry bilges.

When we were in French Polynesia they sold French wine in 2 liter plastic bottles like soda. Referred to as Chateau Plastique. Quite drinkable after the first bottle.

*(Totally hearsay. I cannot remember ever having left an open bottle or box unfinished.)

tjBill - 8-2-2010 at 01:23 PM

I have always wanted to try the wine bottle switch. People seem to be most impressed by French wines.

Santiago - 8-2-2010 at 01:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BMG
*(Totally hearsay. I cannot remember ever having left an open bottle or box unfinished.)


This is the down side to box wine: it sits very happily in the fridge but you loose the quantifier that a bottle provides. With a bottle, you open one, pour a couple of glasses for you and your significant other (or even your wife) and when the bottle is empty, you're done. This keeps things from slowly getting out of control. The box requires self control at a level I've yet to achieve.

toneart - 8-2-2010 at 02:01 PM

A fun thing to do is to host a blind tasting with 10 or 12 people. Everyone brings a bottle of whatever. You, the host, puts all the bottles in a paper bag. You make a list of all the wines that were brought, in random order. Then pour, one wine at a time, into everyone's glass. The taster then marks on the list, which wine they think it is.:cool:

What is interesting, is that some are more expensive than others. You might be surprised that the more expensive wines are not necessarily preferred during the tasting. And, they are often way off in their tasting, checking the wine off the list as a cheaper wine, and vice versa. :O

Pompano - 8-2-2010 at 02:41 PM

Tony..remember that 'Red Truck' wine I told you about? Also Little Red Truck. Well, we had the devil of a time looking for more ever since we left Calistoga in the Napa Valley. We finally found it in..of all places, Ocean Beach, Washington. Bought thier entire stock...only 4 bottles, but a start. It is GOOD and does not break anyone's budget. Sorry, no screw caps or bags..yet.

An anecdote about people's prejudice on certain foods:

For many years it's been my habit to bring to Baja a coffin cooler full of frozen game..ducks, geese, pheasants, grouse, venison, etc..and have many barbeques featuring those game meats.

Marinated snow goose breasts on the grill were a special favorite of a certain amigo...but I never told him that he was eating wild goose breasts. After a few years I told him the truth about the fillet mignon that he supposed the snow breasts to be...But he absolutely refused to believe that any wild game could possible taste so good. Thinks to this day that I was trying to pull his leg.

Oh well..I'll just keep bringing and grilling 'em.

Five Liters of Wine

Gypsy Jan - 8-2-2010 at 03:03 PM

And Fakey Paella?

I am so there. Can I bring a doggie bag and sport bottle? :spingrin::tumble::spingrin::tumble:

toneart - 8-2-2010 at 03:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Tony..remember that 'Red Truck' wine I told you about? Also Little Red Truck. Well, we had the devil of a time looking for more ever since we left Calistoga in the Napa Valley. We finally found it in..of all places, Ocean Beach, Washington. Bought thier entire stock...only 4 bottles, but a start. It is GOOD and does not break anyone's budget. Sorry, no screw caps or bags..yet.

An anecdote about people's prejudice on certain foods:

For many years it's been my habit to bring to Baja a coffin cooler full of frozen game..ducks, geese, pheasants, grouse, venison, etc..and have many barbeques featuring those game meats.

Marinated snow goose breasts on the grill were a special favorite of a certain amigo...but I never told him that he was eating wild goose breasts. After a few years I told him the truth about the fillet mignon that he supposed the snow breasts to be...But he absolutely refused to believe that any wild game could possible taste so good. Thinks to this day that I was trying to pull his leg.

Oh well..I'll just keep bringing and grilling 'em.


Yup! I remember your recommendation for Red Truck. I did find it at Safeway here in Grass Valley. It was $8 or 9. Not a bad price at all. I just opened it last week. (I was waiting for the right moment, if you know what I mean). It is a blend of three reds; Sirah, Cabernet Franc and maybe...Pinot Noir. It was good! Thank you for the heads up. I haven't found any "Little Red Truck" though.

Would be great with all the "grillin" you are planning to do back in Coyote. :bounce:

Bajahowodd - 8-2-2010 at 03:20 PM

That Peter Vella box stuff is actually available in SoCal supermarkets and drug store for less than $10. Time was that so-called "jug wine" was pretty awful. But, thanks to folks like the Franzia brothers, some of who, by the way, are the producers of two buck chuck, mass- produced wines have become ever so more palatable. The Franzias have a huge, amazing facility in the Central Valley.

mtgoat666 - 8-2-2010 at 03:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Santiago
...box wine...


box wine is good for horse packing and kayaking, or anyt traveling where glass if bad due to fragile or weight. no weight of glasss, and container can be burnt on campfire.
box wine not too good for home use, because hard for a a couple nonalcoholics to finish that large volume before wine goes bad from oxygenation upon opening.

i have not found good selections at many stores, only ran across a few palatable ones at bevmo -- who else in CA carries good boxed wine????????????

capt. mike - 8-2-2010 at 03:51 PM

still haven't found a boxed wine brand in a price that compares well to good cork finished bottles that i can get cheap sometimes.
every boxed wine has been less than exciting or memorable - and many simply boring or swillish.

Bajahowodd - 8-2-2010 at 04:16 PM

Anyone remember Carlos Rossi? Decades back he starred in myriad TV ads. He is a member of the Gallo family through marriage. It was just about that time when bulk wine had improved to the point where it wasn't just for winos and cooking.

I will say, though, having seen a number of mentions of the problem, alcoholics are playing a game with death if they buy those five liter boxes. Unfortunately, in virtually all of the alcohol beverage industry, the pricing structure is anathema to people with problems with alcohol. From 1.5 liter jugs of booze, to 18 pack beers, to 5 liter boxes of wine, the situation is the same. Buy large quantities, and you save beaucoup bucks.

I Respectfully Rebut

Gypsy Jan - 8-2-2010 at 04:34 PM

The Value of a Drink

"Sometimes when I reflect back on all the wine I drink, I feel shame . Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the vineyards and all of their hopes and dreams .. If I didn't drink this wine, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered.

Then I say to myself, "It is better that I drink this wine and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver." ~ Jack Handy

WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what the hell happened to your bra and panties.

bajadock - 8-2-2010 at 05:02 PM

Boxed Wine Future

Lots more boxed wine sold in Europe and Australia than in North America. Argument is that Euros have better knowledge of wine and aren't subject to wine snob superstition.

Hardy's Shiraz in a "cask" is the best bag in a box I've found.

I always make certain to bring a screw top bottle to my vinophile friend's home just to make him wince. Last one was a Côtes du Ventoux. Delicious at $7/bottle.

I've got to find this in socal, as I love its irreverence. Thanks for the suggestion.



SDRonni - 8-2-2010 at 05:52 PM

There was just a report on the news about Costco's Kirkland brand beer. Apparently it's made by Gordon Biersch(sp?) and was rated by Consumer's Report as really good! Some even preferred it over the "name" labels. Case of 24 for $18.....

Udo - 8-2-2010 at 06:12 PM

Roger

Check the recent Nomad thread about bringing meats into Baja.


Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano

For many years it's been my habit to bring to Baja a coffin cooler full of frozen game..ducks, geese, pheasants, grouse, venison, etc..and have many barbeques featuring those game meats.

BillP - 8-2-2010 at 06:15 PM

Have you guys checked Bevmo?

Screw Kappa
http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17402

Red Truck in bottles
http://tiny.cc/e5jo2

They can probably order anything you need

I love their 5 cent sales, buy one bottle, get the second for a nickle.

[Edited on 8-3-2010 by BillP]

El Camote - 8-2-2010 at 06:41 PM

We've used the boxed wine, with great success, for backpacking trips where weight, bulk and unbreakableness are at a premium. Another fine feature of the "bag" wine, we've discovered, is blowing air into the bag in the midst of consumption and tossing it back and forth between our floaties while camping on the river. When you've lost the ability to catch it, no problem, it floats.

I still think "box" and "bag" are nice euphemisms when bladder and scrotum are more accurate descriptions of the serving container.

It's uber classy to show up at dinner parties with a full scrotum of tasty vino. :o

Santiago - 8-2-2010 at 09:10 PM

To El Camote: I'm curious, without looking it up, do you know who Justin Hayward is?

El Camote - 8-2-2010 at 09:11 PM

Yes. Wasn't he the lead singer with the moody blues?

Santiago - 8-2-2010 at 09:14 PM

Thought so.

rts551 - 8-2-2010 at 09:16 PM

Box wine

gives new meaning to "loosing" your friends

Santiago - 8-2-2010 at 09:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
I just opened it last week. (I was waiting for the right moment, if you know what I mean).

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what the hell happened to your bra and panties.


Have you two met?

Marc - 8-2-2010 at 09:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
The Value of a Drink

"Sometimes when I reflect back on all the wine I drink, I feel shame . Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the vineyards and all of their hopes and dreams .. If I didn't drink this wine, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered.

Then I say to myself, "It is better that I drink this wine and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver." ~ Jack Handy

WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what the hell happened to your bra and panties.


That's exactly the way I feel about the guys at Jack Daniel's, and I'm doing my very best to keep them employed.;D

redhilltown - 8-2-2010 at 10:48 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzeR1pJIZBA&feature=relat...

What would Dino say?

schwlind - 8-2-2010 at 11:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajahowodd
That Peter Vella box stuff is actually available in SoCal supermarkets and drug store for less than $10. Time was that so-called "jug wine" was pretty awful. But, thanks to folks like the Franzia brothers, some of who, by the way, are the producers of two buck chuck, mass- produced wines have become ever so more palatable. The Franzias have a huge, amazing facility in the Central Valley.


Well, I’m definitely NOT a wine connoisseur, but Sam’s Club in San Diego sells 5 ltr Franzia box wine (chardonnay) for less than $8.50/box. It does pack well, and no worries about broken bottles due to those rough roads out to the beach!... (I wouldn’t serve it to my snooty vinophile friends, though!) :D

Linda

Mexitron - 8-3-2010 at 07:15 AM

I've brought expensive bottles of wine on camping trips and somehow it just doesn't taste much better than box wine...as opposed to at home where the box wine tastes like grape koolaid with a little grain alchohol poured in it...so it works out great for camping---no bottles and cheap!

I shouldn't say the box wine is all that bad though---a couple years ago we had a drought in the money supply and had only $90 for the month for food and booze...we drank the box stuff and wasn't to bad except for some gnarly hangovers.

There was a time

Sonora Wind - 8-3-2010 at 07:36 AM

I always loved blind tastings. Waking up the next morning to find I wasn't blind. :no::no: Now days I talk to my higher power, and work the steps.:yes::yes: Maybe someday I'll be able to drink like normal people. But if I was to guess, I most likely won't.:cool:

capt. mike - 8-3-2010 at 07:48 AM

franzia and vellas taste like crap. it's what to drink when it's all there is...and not in qty, i can't swill enuff to feel that special wine magic in the brain receptors.
of course that's just me....
some may like vegimite too....:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

DianaT - 8-3-2010 at 07:52 AM

Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:

you betcha Diana T!!

capt. mike - 8-3-2010 at 08:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:


one of my fav drinks is WPLJ...
aka white port and lemon juice.
made eternally famous on a little known musical gem of an album called Burnt Weenie Sandwich.....:biggrin:
a Bowery fav since before the war.

fact: when i was living in Germany in 1972 i met some guys from a bicycle club who raced long distances. they made up a power sports drink mixing beer and sugary soft drinks like 7-Up. the effect was the sugar gave them energy boosts and the beer dulled the pain from exertion.

wonder if that would be considered "doping" at the tour de france today???

BillP - 8-3-2010 at 08:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:

Don't forget Boones Farm and Annie Bedsprings. ;)

DianaT - 8-3-2010 at 08:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BillP
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:

Don't forget Boones Farm and Annie Bedsprings. ;)


I feel cheated---I sure remember the Boones Farm, but somehow missed the Annie Bedsprings. :biggrin:

Didn't know any wine snobs in those days. :P

Santiago, anxious to try what you did with my wine snob son. :biggrin:

MitchMan - 8-3-2010 at 08:32 AM

Peoples' egos get in the way in the way of judging wines. People should drink wines like the Italians do. They drink more wine per capita than anyone else. Their attitude is "we like wine, we drink wine and not the label". It is no surprise that blind tests show up surpising results. Even with coffees, it's the same result. I read of a blind test between the premium coffee house coffees and Folgers. Folgers took second place out of five contestants. It's the same with judging restaurant food.

Often times, the taste experience one gets is largely and directly related to the chemistry in your mouth at any one moment, the level of hunger (or thirst) and the mood you are in. Ever get really hungry at a baseball game and buy a not so well prepared hot dog that tasted as good as anything that you have ever eaten?

BillP - 8-3-2010 at 08:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Quote:
Originally posted by BillP
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:

Don't forget Boones Farm and Annie Bedsprings. ;)


I feel cheated---I sure remember the Boones Farm, but somehow missed the Annie Bedsprings. :biggrin:

Didn't know any wine snobs in those days. :P

Santiago, anxious to try what you did with my wine snob son. :biggrin:
Bedsprings was a common nickname, it was actually Annie Green Springs and was brought out as direct competion for Boones Farm.

DianaT - 8-3-2010 at 08:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BillP
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
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Originally posted by BillP
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:

Don't forget Boones Farm and Annie Bedsprings. ;)


I feel cheated---I sure remember the Boones Farm, but somehow missed the Annie Bedsprings. :biggrin:

Didn't know any wine snobs in those days. :P

Santiago, anxious to try what you did with my wine snob son. :biggrin:
Bedsprings was a common nickname, it was actually Annie Green Springs and was brought out as direct competion for Boones Farm.


OK, I remember Annie Green Springs, but somehow I missed the common name----good one, however. :lol::lol:

CaboMagic - 8-3-2010 at 09:06 AM

Recently watched the movie "Bottle Shock" - story based on the 'early days' of Calif wine making .. while we drank a pinot noir from Toasted Head Sonoma Coast :-) cost under 10dlls ..

Wine and food - we enjoy both! find we can spend a lot or a little - to us its the ingredients that affect taste and thats not always linked to price.

Have respect for those whose palate is so fine they can tell but we just either like it or we dont .. so cheers!

El Camote - 8-3-2010 at 10:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Quote:
Originally posted by BillP
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:

Don't forget Boones Farm and Annie Bedsprings. ;)


I feel cheated---I sure remember the Boones Farm, but somehow missed the Annie Bedsprings. :biggrin:



A compilation of cheap, Kool-aidesque wines wouldn't be complete without the inclusion of TJ Swans. Remember "Mellow Days" and "Easy Nights"? :bounce:

toneart - 8-3-2010 at 10:44 AM

A new wine for Seniors...

I kid you not.....
New Wine for Seniors

California vintners in the Napa Valley area, which primarily produce Pinot Blanc, Pinot Noir and Pinot Grigio wines, have developed a new hybrid grape that acts as an anti-diuretic.
It is expected to reduce the number of trips older people have to make to the bathroom during the night.


The new wine will be marketed as


PINO MORE



I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE

I just could not help it.









:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Martyman - 8-3-2010 at 11:15 AM

If you drink too much Pino More and you just cant relieve yourself...Take the new urinary anti-retention drug

Are you ready?





Niagara


sorry...

capitolkat - 8-3-2010 at 11:23 AM

As I get closer to my move to La paz I have been struggling with my wine collection- I've already had numerous cellar reduction parties and have gone down from 500 to about 250 bottles. The house we are building has a space for a wine cooler for up to 270 bottles- but how to get them there without ruining them and paying a fortune has me wondering.

in any case I tell anybody that price has nothing to do with what wines you should buy. Drink what you like and most people who don't drink bordeaux or sauternnes regularly don't have the pallate for them and that's fine. And like many others I've attended more than my fair share of wine tastings. blind and double blind tastings. I have found that people who drink wine regularly and have developed a pallate for fine wines can easily discern less expensive wines from their lofty brothers. I do occasionally buy wines in the $50-100 range and most times they are good but I do wonder -is it worth that much if I enjoy a $20 bottle. I have some Wine Spectator wines of the year- which means they were rated as the best wine of the year out of the 13,000 or so that Wine Spectator tasted and rated. now that I'm about to retire I think those days are over. But my cellar has them and they are aging nicely. My kids covet them as they think my wines will outlast me but I'm not so sure. I've got a bottle of 1895 french cognac that many have volunteered to share for my retirement so I guess that's as good a reason as any.

As you can see I've spent a little time and money on wines and belong to several wine groups- where we have dinners and share special bottles. It's been fun and I've been able to drink some wines of legend but I don't look down my nose at those who like it from a box. Whatever strokes your taste buds is what you should drink .

Cheers-- Norm

capt. mike - 8-3-2010 at 11:46 AM

just saw black box brand, might try it - pork kay noir??

Santiago - 8-3-2010 at 02:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by capt. mike
just saw black box brand, might try it - pork kay noir??


In my limited box wine forays, Black Box was the best but kinda pricey - $20 or so for 3 liters (four 750ml bottles for the numerically challenged). So at $5 each you're on the second to lowest shelf at the supermercardo in my town, but still seems better than those.

Mexitron: are you serious? $90 food AND booze budget for a month? This was on top of food stamps, right?

All of you re: Boonesfarm, Annie Bedsprings et al: in 1975 or thereabouts I once dated a girl, and I use this term loosely, from Taft who was very impressed when I opened a bottle of '69 Charles Krug Cab that probably cost me two days wages. She was impressed that it had a cork and I served it in stemware but thought it wasn't sweet enough. What guys will do.......

Iflyfish - 8-3-2010 at 06:57 PM

capitolkat

I will be most happy to assist in the depletion of this burden you now must carry.

Iflyfishwithmynewesttoyanaereator

Marc - 8-3-2010 at 08:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
A new wine for Seniors...

I kid you not.....
New Wine for Seniors

California vintners in the Napa Valley area, which primarily produce Pinot Blanc, Pinot Noir and Pinot Grigio wines, have developed a new hybrid grape that acts as an anti-diuretic.
It is expected to reduce the number of trips older people have to make to the bathroom during the night.


The new wine will be marketed as


PINO MORE



I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE

I just could not help it.











:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
:lol::lol:



You should just shoot yourself!:lol::lol:

[Edited on 8-4-2010 by Marc]

capitolkat - 8-4-2010 at 06:46 AM

Iflyfish--

There are many who have volunteered to make their liver suffer on my behalf -- and many offers have been accepted. I just have to figure how to get the wines to La Paz. Norm

Taco de Baja - 8-4-2010 at 08:23 AM

Peter Vella box wine also makes a nice base for sangria :light:

durrelllrobert - 8-4-2010 at 08:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:


What's the word?
Tunderbird!
What's the price?
Thirty twice!:coolup::coolup:

DENNIS - 8-4-2010 at 09:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:


There were more:

Red Mountain

Spañada

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3qzCQZLR-E

durrelllrobert - 8-4-2010 at 09:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by capitolkat
Iflyfish--

There are many who have volunteered to make their liver suffer on my behalf -- and many offers have been accepted. I just have to figure how to get the wines to La Paz. Norm


Just have all those nomads who drink boxed wine send you their empties and transfer your good stuff to the boxes for easier smuggling. Would your wine taste as good from their boxes:?:

Mexitron - 8-4-2010 at 10:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Santiago
Quote:
Originally posted by capt. mike
just saw black box brand, might try it - pork kay noir??


In my limited box wine forays, Black Box was the best but kinda pricey - $20 or so for 3 liters (four 750ml bottles for the numerically challenged). So at $5 each you're on the second to lowest shelf at the supermercardo in my town, but still seems better than those.

Mexitron: are you serious? $90 food AND booze budget for a month? This was on top of food stamps, right?

All of you re: Boonesfarm, Annie Bedsprings et al: in 1975 or thereabouts I once dated a girl, and I use this term loosely, from Taft who was very impressed when I opened a bottle of '69 Charles Krug Cab that probably cost me two days wages. She was impressed that it had a cork and I served it in stemware but thought it wasn't sweet enough. What guys will do.......


We were both in between jobs......but really wasn't too bad, we had a vegie garden and just ate simple foods---pasta, beans and rice, chicken (which you can usually find on sale for 40 cents a pound for the leg quarters)....and no, don't qualify for food stamps---just a blip in our little house economy....got back to the usual the next month. We had savings but made a game out of it!

MsTerieus - 8-4-2010 at 01:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Do they still sell Thunderbird and Ripple? Yikes, those were the days :biggrin::biggrin:


There were more:

Red Mountain

Spañada

My fave was Boone's Farm strawberry wine! :D

DENNIS - 8-4-2010 at 01:49 PM

"My fave was Boone's Farm strawberry wine!"

Well...yeah, but I couldn't afford the French imports.

Martyman - 8-5-2010 at 09:25 AM

Fred Sanfords favorite - Champipple
Ripple and 7-up

capt. mike - 8-6-2010 at 08:15 AM

i 1st drank Katwaba pink in a duck blind at age 14.
i was hooked immediately and soon moved on to harder stuff....:!::!::!:

DENNIS - 8-6-2010 at 08:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Santiago
I once dated a girl, and I use this term loosely,


Fotos please.......Did the goatee have anything to do with your confusion? :lol::lol:

Cypress - 8-6-2010 at 09:16 AM

Got drunk drinking Gallo port wine, my first experience with wine, gave me a good case of the "dry heaves". Sorta nipped my taste for wine in the bud.:biggrin:

DENNIS - 8-6-2010 at 09:55 AM

OK folks...put on your dancin' shoes, slick back what's left of your hair with a spoonful of Pomade and party down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gma104ltbaU
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(R. Dobard/L. McDaniels)

I say WPLJ, really taste good to me
WPLJ, won't you take a drink with me
Well, it's a good good wine
It really make you feel so fine
(So fine, so fine, so fine)

I went to the store when they opened up the door
I said: "Please please please gimme some more"
White Port & Lemon Juice,
White Port & Lemon Juice,
White Port & Lemon Juice,
Ooh what it do to you!

You take the bottle, you take the can
Shake it up fine, you get a good good wine.
White Port & Lemon Juice,
(Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah . . . )
White Port & Lemon Juice,
White Port & Lemon Juice,
Ooh what it do to you!

The W is the White,
The P is the Port,
The L is the Lemon,
The J is the Juice
White Port & Lemon Juice,
White Port & Lemon Juice,
White Port & Lemon Juice,
Ooh what it do to you!

Well I feel so good, I feel so fine
I got plenty lovin', I got plenty wine
White Port & Lemon Juice,
White Port & Lemon Juice,
I said White Port & Lemon Juice,
Ooh what it do to you!

MsTerieus - 8-6-2010 at 09:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
Got drunk drinking Gallo port wine, my first experience with wine, gave me a good case of the "dry heaves". Sorta nipped my taste for wine in the bud.:biggrin:


LOL. Similar thing happened to me while in college, the first time I got drunk. :barf: It was on Mateus; to this day, I avoid pink AND red wine. :no:

MsTerieus - 8-6-2010 at 10:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
OK folks...put on your dancin' shoes, slick back what's left of your hair with a spoonful of Pomade and party down


The link took me to a different WPLJ song -- "I've got a woman stays drunk all the time...." It was a HOT song! :D

[Edited on 8-6-2010 by MsTerieus]

DENNIS - 8-6-2010 at 10:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsTerieus
The link took me to a different WPLJ song -- "I've got a woman stays drunk all the time...." It was a HOT song! :D




Ahhhh Soooo....it does. I didn't listen through it cuz the Bel Airs make me feel old.

Lemme se what I can find.

DENNIS - 8-6-2010 at 10:17 AM

OK....Here ya go. You'll like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZCf5A49Ut8

MsTerieus - 8-6-2010 at 12:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
OK....Here ya go. You'll like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZCf5A49Ut8


It was OK -- a little too "country" for me. I liked the Belairs' better. (It didn't make ME feel old.) ;D

What the H is white port anyhow? Never saw such a thing? (And never heard a WPLJ song either, before reading this thread.)

[Edited on 8-6-2010 by MsTerieus]

Cypress - 8-6-2010 at 12:32 PM

MsTerieus, "Street Corner Girl", by Led Zepplein. A sure nuff classic.:bounce:

DENNIS - 8-6-2010 at 12:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsTerieus
What the H is white port anyhow? Never saw such a thing? (And never heard a WPLJ song either, before reading this thread.)





Port is a fortified wine....can be good and found on the liquor store shelves next to the Sherrys.
I would have to believe the White Port of the song was a domestic product and had it's clientele in Harlem and similar locales.

http://www.goodcooking.com/portinfo.htm

DENNIS - 8-6-2010 at 12:46 PM

I guess it's still around:

http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=24...

MsTerieus - 8-6-2010 at 12:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by MsTerieus
What the H is white port anyhow? Never saw such a thing? (And never heard a WPLJ song either, before reading this thread.)





Port is a fortified wine....can be good and found on the liquor store shelves next to the Sherrys.
I would have to believe the White Port of the song was a domestic product and had it's clientele in Harlem and similar locales.

http://www.goodcooking.com/portinfo.htm



Yes, I drink port, on occasion. But not white port.

DENNIS - 8-6-2010 at 12:50 PM

Another:

http://tinyurl.com/295sy6n

MsTerieus - 8-6-2010 at 12:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
I guess it's still around:

http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=24...


Sho' 'nuff! They don't carry the white at my local Trader Joe's, just Taylor red.

DENNIS - 8-6-2010 at 12:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsTerieus

Sho' 'nuff! They don't carry the white at my local Trader Joe's, just Taylor red.


They may have it tucked away in a discreet location. Joe wouldn't want to display riot-fuel out in the open. :lol:

capt. mike - 8-6-2010 at 01:36 PM

served with steak and lobster wed nite in mulege - a 2007 LA Cetto Zinfandel....marvelous!!
purchased at the truck stop pemex tienda south of town. incredible....

vandenberg - 8-6-2010 at 02:24 PM

When I got to Sacramento in '64, noticed one of those local winery tasting rooms and got roped into buying a gallon of local sherry. Me and a buddy proceeded to drink that gallon in one sitting in the yard in about 104 degree weather. Next few days, every time a had a drink of water, I was drunk all over again. Tough stuff.:no::no::no:

toneart - 8-6-2010 at 02:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by capt. mike
served with steak and lobster wed nite in mulege - a 2007 LA Cetto Zinfandel....marvelous!!
purchased at the truck stop pemex tienda south of town. incredible....


That is my favorite Mexican Red! I buy a lot of it while in Mulege. You can also get it at Saul's and Ayleth (the orange store).:bounce:

Lambert, Hendricks and Ross, circa 1950s:

toneart - 8-6-2010 at 02:49 PM

My wife got tired a' me runnin 'round, so she tried to keep me home-
Well, she broke my nose and hid my clothes, but I continued to roam.
Then she finally hit my weak spot - threatened to throw my bottle out
Well, from the basement to the rooftop, everybody could hear me shout...

Chorus: Gimme that wine (Unhand that bottle) (3 times)
'Cause I can't cut loose without my juice.
Gotta have hot lucy when I go walkin' y'know.

Well, one day while crossin the avenue, a big car knocked me down.
While I was stretched out tyin' up traffic and crowds came from blocks
around
Now the po-lice were searchin my pockets, before they sent me to the
funeral parlor,
But when one o' those cops took my bottle, Jack, I jumped straight up
and commenced to hollar

Chorus: Gimme that wine (Unhand that bottle) (3 times)
'Cause I can't get well without Muskatel
I only drink for medicinal purposes anyway

Well, now, one real dark and dreary night as I was staggerin' home t'
bed,
Well, a bandit jumped from the shadows and put a blackjack 'side my
head.
That cat took my watch, my ring, my money, And I didn't make a sound,
but when he reached 'n got my bottle, you could hear me for blocks
around

Chorus: Gimme that wine (Unhand that bottle) (3 times)
Beat m' head outta shape, but leave my grape.
Watch, ring and money ain't nothin' but don mess with my wine, JIm.

Well one day my house caught fire while I was layin' down sleepin' off a
nap
An' when I woke up everything was burnin' with a pop an' a crackle an' a
snap.
Now the fireman chopped up my TV set and tore my apartment apart,
But when he raised his axe to my bottle, I screamed with all my heart...

Chorus: Gimme that wine (Unhand that bottle) (3 times)
So I can drink one toast before I roast.
No sense goin' out half baked, Might as well be Alll tore up

You can take all those Hollywood glamor girls- Lana Turner, Rita
Hayworth,
Bridget Bardot, n' Lucille Ball,
and all them chicks 'n line 'em upside the wall
Put a GIGANTIC jug beside 'em, n' tell me to take my choice.
Well, there'd be no doubt which one I chose, the minute I raised my
voice.

Chorus: Gimme that wine (Unhand that bottle) (3 times)
Well those chicks look fine, but I love my wine.
Now some folks like money, some like to dance and dine,
But I'll be happy If you give me that wine :yes:;)

Mexitron - 8-6-2010 at 03:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by vandenberg
When I got to Sacramento in '64, noticed one of those local winery tasting rooms and got roped into buying a gallon of local sherry. Me and a buddy proceeded to drink that gallon in one sitting in the yard in about 104 degree weather. Next few days, every time a had a drink of water, I was drunk all over again. Tough stuff.:no::no::no:


That sounds brutal...reminds me of the tequila parties in college where we invented the Baja 1000---half shot of tequila with half a shot of grain alcohol....sometimes I wonder how we made it through those days....what fun, but what gargantuan hangovers!

MsTerieus - 8-6-2010 at 05:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
My wife got tired a' me runnin 'round, so she tried to keep me home-
Well, she broke my nose and hid my clothes, but I continued to roam....


It loses something in the translation, without my knowing the tune.... :lol:

Santiago - 8-6-2010 at 05:59 PM

Hey - what the heck happened to my thread? I go away for a few days and eveybody's in togas.
Tony knows his blues......

capt. mike - 8-7-2010 at 05:40 AM

half shot of tequila with half a shot of grain alcohol....


that is insane man!!

back to the thread...

bajadock - 8-8-2010 at 08:56 AM

Box Wine Blind Tasting in Austin, TX, 2007 produced surprising results. The tasters included Austin area sommeliers and experienced oenophiles. Surprises along with recommendations are in the article.

Santiago - 8-8-2010 at 09:22 AM

BD: thanks - just what I was looking for.

MsTerieus - 8-8-2010 at 12:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajadock
Box Wine Blind Tasting in Austin, TX, 2007 produced surprising results. The tasters included Austin area sommeliers and experienced oenophiles. Surprises along with recommendations are in the article.


What to xenophiles know about wine, anyway? :)