New shoes for David K

Here are some recommendations for David K...I have been investigating and doing my research for you brother.

For the kind of travel you do, and the mix of light off-roading and high-speed Baja driving, I'm thinking a high-quality All-Terrain tire is what you should look into.

Here is my first pick for David...



Part Number: PCT560265
LT265/75R16, Pro Comp Xtreme All Terrain Radial
Load Range E
Max Load 3415
Tread Depth 18/32
Overall Diameter 31.6 Inches
Black SideWall
Sidewall Construction= Tri-Ply
40,000 Mile Tread Wear Warranty


Goodyear Duratrac


Bridgestone Revo


Dick Cepek Fun Country II




Those are my top 4 for David K. There are lots others, but just wondering what David K was thinking before he gets stuck halfway between "That Road" and Shell Beach.

[Edited on 8-12-2010 by Ken Cooke]

[Edited on 8-12-2010 by Ken Cooke]

The Xtreme AT by ProComp is proven - my buddy Mike ran it in Johnson Valley before the Loan Co. came and took his Rubicon away.

Here's another picture.

David buys whatever is available at COSTCO. (As do I)

Actually,I am thinking about these...




Developed from off road racing... NEW!

I put 55k miles on a set of the Dueller Revos on a 2005 Tundra TRD 4x4. La Mision every weekend, all over Baja from Mulege to Cabo. On the beach at the East Cape, nasty roads, the beach dirt road from the East Cape to Cabo, 110 mph Vegas runs, they were great tires and still had good tread when I got the 09 Tundra! The BFG Rugged Trails that came stock on the new truck are crap! A few more months and a new set of P275/65/18 Revos go on! Before the move to La Paz!

The trick set-up was a set of the Jackman white 5 spoke steel wheels, with a set of the Armstrong tires! You were stylin'.

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Originally posted by David K Actually,I am thinking about these... Developed from off road racing... NEW!

I'm curious to see how these work out for you. I don't want a new set of tires that whine at hwy speeds, nor provide a rough ride. My TrXus MTs are great, but they are tough to balance and become loud as they wear thin.

I will run these TrXus MTs another 12 months, and then I'll make my next purchase. Not sure exactly what they will be, yet.

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Originally posted by bajabass The trick set-up was a set of the Jackman white 5 spoke steel wheels, with a set of the Armstrong tires! You were stylin'.

Personally, I used TACOMA white spoke wheels with my Tru-tracs.

Barry

Here is what General says:

Born from competition, this tire has been developed by the most skilled engineers and tested by the best off-road racers including Carl Renezeder and BJ Baldwin.

Features:
3-Ply Construction
Reactive Contour Technology
Race inspired sidewall design
Acoustic Modulation Sound Technology (AMST)
Patented Strake & Chamfer tread Pattern


Benefits:

Race proven 3-Ply construction provides driving confidence under the world's most extreme conditions
Even tread wear throughout the life of the tire
Multi-angled sidewall protectors help prevent punctures
Competition inspired red letters
Sound wave suppression that works to reduce road noise
Delivers deceptively high levels of traction in both mud and silt

Hey, I am in no rush... and I sure don't have money to toss... So, just getting ideas for when I do replace these BFGs on my Tacoma.

Any opinions on these beautiful Italian tires?:







The Scorpion ATR is Pirelli's On-/Off-Road All-Terrain light truck tire developed for pickup, crossover and sport utility vehicle drivers that want to combine on-road civility with off-road capability. The Scorpion ATR is designed to master long highway journeys, wet roads and the challenges of winter driving by combining paved road comfort and handling with rough terrain grip and maneuverability.

The Scorpion ATR features a silica-enhanced tread compound molded into a quiet-running, symmetric all-terrain type tread pattern. A virtual continuous center rib and large, stable shoulder tread blocks provide directional stability and steering response while interlocked independent tread blocks in the center tread area further promote acoustic comfort, even on-road wear and off-road traction. Sweeping central circumferential grooves and lateral shoulder grooves channel water to resist hydroplaning and enhance wet traction. The independent tread blocks are siped to provide extra biting edges that enhance off-road traction on loose surfaces and in snow. The tire's internal structure includes twin steel belts reinforced with spirally wrapped nylon cord to support the tread area providing predictable handling and high-speed control, while polyester cords stabilize the sidewalls and enhance ride quality.

(the above is from Tire Rack, not Pirelli's web site)

Not a single customer of mine with Scorpion experience liked them. I won't sell them. All tires fail. Every brand. Every model. Just the law of averages! Had a Dueller almost kill me, and totalled a 2005 Tundra. The next set on the new truck were perfect when I traded it in.

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Originally posted by bajabass Not a single customer of mine with Scorpion experience liked them. I won't sell them. All tires fail. Every brand. Every model. Just the law of averages! Had a Dueller almost kill me, and totalled a 2005 Tundra. The next set on the new truck were perfect when I traded it in.

New shoes for DK

I can no longer resist:

Now K-rico, step away from the mirror when you are playing with the camera!

And we just put 4 more new Bridgestones on it just a couple of weeks ago.

695's this time. Those and the Revo II's are the ones to look at for Light Truck, Load Range C tires (some of the sizes come in Load Range D or E - I'm still using 31x10.5x15's).

Best prices the past two times (here in San Diego) - and I guess it should be no surprise, but it was - were at the Firestone tire stores (Bridgestone owns the Firestone brand). Discount Tire, Evans Tire, Costco and even Tire Rack were all priced higher.

Bridgestone Dueler A/T D695 (at Tire Rack):
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone...

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2 (at Tire Rack):
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone...

I asked at the Firestone store about the Destination A/T's that are rated so high on Tire Rack's all-terrain tire survey. Reference:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.js...

He told me the Firestones were a great value, but the Bridgestones were a better quality tire overall. (FWIW)

btw... I'm one of those people that has had scary problems with BFG All-Terrains. I seem to have a consistent problem with blowing out the sidewalls (multiple times) on the BFG A-T's.... but have never had such an issue with the Bridgestones.

Good luck with your tire choices everyone!



-
Doug






[Edited on 8-14-2010 by BajaNomad]

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Originally posted by BajaNomad ... He told me the Firestones were a great value, but the Bridgestones were a better quality tire overall. (FWIW) btw... I'm one of those people that has had scary problems with BFG All-Terrains. I seem to have a consistent problem with blowing out the sidewalls (multiple times) on the BFG A-T's.... but have never had such an issue with the Bridgestones. Good luck with your tire choices everyone! - Doug

I really wish tires didn't last as long or where as expensive, because I sure would like to try many varieties! Naturally, once I like a tire, then you hope it lasts forever!

As I have said many, many times... I was very happy with Toyo ATs and Cooper ATRs on my '05 Tacoma. The thing they don't have is 'sizzle'... The new Grabber from General has sizzle, as do many of the tires Ken posted. The problem with most of the off road tires that look great (have sizzle) is they are either noisy on the highway or do poorly in sand... and sand is my primary surface in the use of 4 wheel drive.

I wish BFGs did better in sand and did not have weak sidewalls... they look good, are available everywhere, my wife loves them (had them on her CJ-5), so it isn't a hate thing. Sure, there was a time when I was down on anything from French companies (BFG is owned by Michlin of France), but France has changed policies since then.

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Originally posted by David K there was a time when I was down on anything from French companies (BFG is owned by Michlin of France), but France has changed policies since then.

A change in policy is cause for you to change your economic support? DK: from your posts it appears that you are strongly against Obama's policies, so why are you not boycotting US companies until the US changes policies?

Hindsight is 20/20, and it appears that the french foresight was 20/20. The french were right in not supporting US invasion of Iraq. In hindsight, we now know that Powell, Bush and Cheney lied and/or relied on bad info to support their maniacal push for war, and their actions have done little to cause stability in middle east.
The french were right, the invasion had no justifiable basis, and invasion would destabilize the middle east..

[Edited on 8-14-2010 by mtgoat666]

You are right, Woody!

4WD Off Road TRD Tacoma Tires

Here is what comes on the truck, new



Here is what I got in 2006 as my first replacements for my '05:



Then...



Then...

David,

I'm checking back in after a week's absence. How much longer do you give your current set of shoes??

I drove my Jeep a total of 5,500 miles last year, and my TrXus MTs could run another 10,000 miles - likely, 2 more years at that rate. They are loud, and howl like a pack of wild dogs on the highway above 50 m.p.h. I too am thinking of a set of tires that are more quiet on the street, but return great performance off-road.

The General Grabber might fill the bill for me, since I was looking at an All-Terrain tire that has great sidewalls and good traction off-road. I've shredded BFG All-Terrains on the trail, and I don't want to sink money into another set. Plus, behind Mike's Sky Rancho, where the boulder blocks a majority of the trail, and you have to skirt the outside of the trail near the cliff, the BFGoodrich All-Terrain tires were slipping bigtime while in 4Lo, making me a little nervous after my spotter told me about this lack of overall traction where needed most. My TrXus MT tires work very well off-road, but are difficult to balance and should be packaged with a set of ear plugs after the tire reaches 50% wear, IMO.

If it is a 50,000 mile tire and wears out at 40,000 miles, the next set would be 20% cheaper... (10,000 miles is 20% of 50,000 miles). That is if you want the same tire...

On my 2001 Tacoma, after the second set of Rugged Trails wore out, I took Bedman's recommendation and went to Pep Boys and bought their Futura Dakotas (now called Destiny Dakotas)... made by Cooper. They were 40,000 mile tires, but barely lasted to 25,000 miles... They were only $85 each back in 2003, and the next set were almost half price as they only lasted a bit over half the warantee.... but $50 bucks for a 265/70-16 all terrain tire was impossible to pass up.




The listed price is still a low $117 for this tire at the local store.

[Edited on 8-23-2010 by David K]

You can try to cruise across the sand (keeping your momentum up if it is soft)... IF you bog down... don't panic, don't spin the tires... Once forward speed stops, then downward movement begins! So, just stop and let air out of all 4 tires... to 15 psi (a good dial gauge that reads under 10 psi is a must, and a good air pump to refill the tires after the sand run, as well.

You should be able to just motor on after you air down... keep tires pointed straight, make sure you ARE indeed in 4WD (hubs locked, if you have manual hubs). Avoid sharp turns or slamming on the brakes while deflated.

Here is the look of my tracks before deflating (truck was drifting a bit sideways on the steep beach)... The truck was fully loaded and even with traction control (limited slip) it struggled in the deep sand:



After dropping to 15 psi, the truck straightened out and 'floated' with ease!:



looking back...



Piece of cake!

Another vote for the...

...Pro Comp Xtreme AT...I bought a set for our F-350 with the Lance camper aboard - needed some 'meat' to carry all that weight!

I needed 325/65R-18's to get the job done - those tires really made a difference...their wide 'footprint' really helped the 'sway' around curves with that camper weight up high...

I ran on the beach at Pismo with those tires, and really didn't have to air down due to their width...I even put those same tires and wheels on our 2001 Excursion and ran all over the dunes at Pismo on another trip after airing down to get through the soft stuff...what a blast to see that big hunkin' SUV up there on top of a big dune!

[Edited on 8-23-2010 by Mexray]

Pro Comp on the camper rig..

Get me a good price on the General Grabbers Tom... then bring them to me from Bakersfield... I'll buy dinner!

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Originally posted by Ken Cooke Here are some recommendations for David K...I have been investigating and doing my research for you brother. For the kind of travel you do, and the mix of light off-roading and high-speed Baja driving, I'm thinking a high-quality All-Terrain tire is what you should look into. Here is my first pick for David... Part Number: PCT560265 LT265/75R16, Pro Comp Xtreme All Terrain Radial Load Range E Max Load 3415 Tread Depth 18/32 Overall Diameter 31.6 Inches Black SideWall Sidewall Construction= Tri-Ply 40,000 Mile Tread Wear Warranty

I have been thinking about running the 35" Pro Comp Xtreme All-Terrain myself. These tires worked well in Anza Borrego during a flash flood 1 year ago on my friends Unlimited JK Rubicon, and they are quiet on the highway, and work like they are supposed to off-road.

Overall Winner last weekend's Vegas to Reno Race

Rick Johnson using General Grabbers!

Read the review in Petersen's

http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/wheels/131_1007_ne...


New DOT-Approved General Grabber
General's Tough New Off-Road Tire
From the July, 2010 issue of 4Wheel & Off-Road
By Kevin McNulty
Photography by Kevin McNulty

We always seem to find ourselves a little delirious when a new off-road tire is released. We can barely stand the wait to get our mitts on them for some hardcore testing. General Tire introduced the Grabber Competition tire about two years ago, and it has proven its toughness and dependability through numerous of off-road events like CORR races, the Baja 1000 and 500, the San Felipe 250, and Vegas to Reno races. General now offers a DOT-approved version of the Grabber for regular folks like us.

Given our location near the high deserts and mountains of Southern California, we rarely have difficulty finding tough testing grounds. Through our grueling testing we found the Grabber extremely capable off road, providing excellent traction in mud, rocks, snow, and sand. What really impressed us was that the Grabber was not only able to provide good all-around traction in a number of environments, but was also highway-friendly without the drone so commonly found in mud tires. We have to rate the Grabber a great to-and-from-the-trail tire, perfect for the weekend warrior desert racers!



I specially enjoyed the comments under the sand driving photo:

The 35x12.5R17 Grabbers allowed us to blast through sand dunes without digging in and burying ourselves. With the tires set at 32 psi we were still able to climb steep dunes and float across flat sections of the softest sand. The tires are available in 33- to 35-inch sizes for 15- to 20-inch wheels


Could this be the perfect Baja tire?:

The wide voids of the Grabber allowed it to self-clean in the mud. The tire features Acoustic Modulation Technology, a wave-suppression technology that provides an exceptionally quiet street ride. They also feature General's patented Strake & Chamfer tread design, a design of diagonal grooves and chamfered lug corners that gives the tire its traction capabilities.

Move over BFG???:

The Grabber is constructed with seven-ply tread: three polyester, two steel, and two polyamide belts. The sidewall features three polyester belts. After running the rocky trails of Hammer we didn't notice any chunking, tearing, or gouges in the sidewall.



[Edited on 8-25-2010 by David K]

I thought your BFG AT/KOs did fine in Baja on our trail ride. Why the change?

Ken, the photo above you posted of a telephone pole from World War II (along the Pole Line Road NW of San Felipe) is missing something...

YOU!