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Scorpion got me

Russ - 8-19-2010 at 07:50 AM

Went out to work on the storm shutters while it was cool and thought a little clean up was in order first. I picked up a pile of scraps ... OUCH!

I'm thinking that because it was a big one and I was able to squeeze it and get some blood out I've only had a small reaction. My pinky is only a little numb. It's only the second sting I've had. Felt more like an electrical shock than a sting. No big deal.







fandango - 8-19-2010 at 08:04 AM

ouch!!
in the first photo, he looks really big. do they live to sting again? it doesn't look like that one did.

mike odell - 8-19-2010 at 08:08 AM

Russ,
Maybe self medication of tequila and salt may take away the sting!:yes:

DENNIS - 8-19-2010 at 08:08 AM

Gawwwwdammmmm, Russ....I think you did get lucky. That's one of those really serious Scorpions and if he got you like he wanted to, you would have been hurtin' for sure.

I got hit by one of these small gray guys when he got into my shoe and there was more heat than hurt. Thirty minutes of anxiety, and it was over. That was the last thing the critter ever stung.

comitan - 8-19-2010 at 08:12 AM

You will probably have the numbness for about 3 weeks! Enjoy:biggrin:

mike odell - 8-19-2010 at 08:17 AM

Another thought Russ, if the numbness is not too bad, maybe you
can fillet that big sucker wilst he still be fresh!

Osprey - 8-19-2010 at 08:17 AM

Need to see one of your ranchero pals and get a little jar of Guaco weed. Instant relief, like it never happened.

It's a vine, the rancheros just dry it, grind it up, put it in jar with a little tequila, keep it handy for any kind of bite, skin problem. Wicked strong antihistamine of the natural kind.

DENNIS - 8-19-2010 at 08:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Osprey
Need to see one of your ranchero pals and get a little jar of Guaco weed. Instant relief, like it never happened.

It's a vine, the rancheros just dry it, grind it up, put it in jar with a little tequila, keep it handy for any kind of bite, skin problem. Wicked strong antihistamine of the natural kind.



Jorge....Must be something akin to this ?:

http://www.herbal-ayurveda-remedy.com/herbs/guaco.php


It's a slow loader, sorry...... but there's more info on Google.

[Edited on 8-19-2010 by DENNIS]

Russ - 8-19-2010 at 08:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Osprey
Need to see one of your ranchero pals and get a little jar of Guaco weed. Instant relief, like it never happened.

It's a vine, the rancheros just dry it, grind it up, put it in jar with a little tequila, keep it handy for any kind of bite, skin problem. Wicked strong antihistamine of the natural kind.


Forgot, I have some. I was told to but it in rubbing alcohol. The sting is really nothing but my finger is still numb.

Pompano - 8-19-2010 at 08:56 AM

Ouch! Tough luck, Russ, but glad you missed the Big Event.

I've had my share of stings over the years, too. As you know, one can't avoid it for long in Baja if you are into palms, bark, yardwork, etc.

My worst sting was my first, naturally. The fear of the unknown and all that stuff. I was stung 3 times by the same dang scorpion:

Desert camping with buddy Randy, 1973. It was nighttime at the campfire and I had my boots up on a burning log when I felt something crawling up my pantsleg just above the boot top. I reached down to feel what it was when ..Zing! it got me good. I yelled and rubbed at the spot, but it crawled a bit higher up my leg and stung me again on the knee as I tried to crush whatever was in my pants. I was pretty excited and alarmed Randy a bit, too.

Then it got to the top of my leg and stung me the third time just below the groin.

Hells Bells, I was damn frantic by this time and hit that spot with my fist..QUICK AND HARD...and smashed that damn crawling thing to a pulp. Another couple inches further up and it was Home Territory. (I can just see Randy administrating First Aid with a machete and tournaquit)

I jumped up and hurriedly took off my jeans..shaking the squashed invader into the fire..just to make sure! Those three sting areas were now on fire themselves..Ohh, did they hurt!

Now's when the fun started.

Our companions were Richard Long and his then wife, Shirley. Shirley was a stone fox blonde from Georgia. She took control of this situation very expertly. She said to just relax, and she would help with the pain. I might survive after all. She had me sit down on the back of my Jeep gangbox, legs dangling over the endgate. ..with just my shorts on.

Shirley came back with some ice cubes and starting rubbing the stings with the soothing coolness. First the one on my shin, then the one on my knee...ahh, I was feeling much, much better. And could not wait until the final wound was treated!

But Shirley was looking at my grinning face, then gave me the ice, saying, "You can handle it from here, cowboy."

Ahhh..those were fine times. Almost wish I could stand a repeat of those stings!

Scorpion stuff:

Russ, did you know scorpions can range from 3/4 to 9 inches? :o

One of our local Mexican varieties is one of the deadliest, species Centruriodes. but thank God most people report no more pain than that of a honeybee. The good news is, that in North America only the Centruroides is a known killer of humans. The bad news is, they live in Mexico and the extreme southwestern USA.

They are usually old-straw-yellow or yellow with dark longitudinal stripes, and reach from two to 7.5 centimeters in length. Their pincers are long and slender as opposed to bulky and lobster-like. The sting, immediately and exquisitely painful, is increased by a light tap on the site.

Deaths have almost exclusively been in small children, the elderly, and the severely allergic.

First aid for any scorpion sting should involve cooling the wound which allows the body to more easily break down the molecular structure of the venom. Cooling also reduces pain. Use ice or cool running water if available. Also a local poultice of aloe vera and palo blanco bark. On a warm night, a wet compress will help. Keeping calm and still helps..not like me on that first night! . Panic and activity speed up the venom's spread. If the scorpion was Centruroides, you might have heavy sweating, difficulty swallowing, blurred vision, loss of bowel control, jerky muscular reflexes, and respiratory distress..often resulting in pitching face down into the campfire.

Well..good luck with next sting, amigo!

Bob H - 8-19-2010 at 09:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mike odell
Another thought Russ, if the numbness is not too bad, maybe you
can fillet that big sucker wilst he still be fresh!


Sorry Russ.... wow..

Actually, they are quite good deep fried! Had one in Japan once.

Bob H

Bugman - 8-19-2010 at 09:10 AM

That is a desert hairy scorpion so consider yourself lucky you got nailed by that guy and not one of the smaller more toxic species. It will probably hurt like a bad bee sting for awhile but should not be too bothersome after a day or two. As a general rule (but by no means 100%!) the larger scorpions with bigger claws subdue their prey without the need for powerful venom. Be very wary of the small guys with delicate little claws!

Chris

bajabass - 8-19-2010 at 09:27 AM

Ouch! :O That looks just like the one my wife crushed under our bed at the El Morro in Santa Rosalia. That room was cleaner than new by the time she went to bed that night.:)

SDRonni - 8-19-2010 at 09:35 AM

I hope you squashed that sucker!

Meany - 8-19-2010 at 10:06 AM

Gee Whiz Bugger!! It doesn't look very squashed?? Must of died of Blood poisoning??? :lol::fire:

Lobsterman - 8-19-2010 at 10:15 AM

Bigger the P-nchers the less toxic the scorpion is. Scorpions with little P-nchers need poison to kill their prey.

Arturo - 8-19-2010 at 10:25 AM

My 18yr old was stung on the foot when he was in the shower last week in Chivato. His first . And like you all said he just felt a little bee sting and that was about it.. "Thank god"
I killed a few but never been stung, I did have a close call though Just like our friend Pompano at the camp fire, one crawled outa a burning log and got to my shoe.

Osprey - 8-19-2010 at 10:26 AM

Dennis, that's the stuff and thanks -- that's the best picture I've seen of the vine. I didn't know about the bronchi part -- all falls into place now. One of our REALLY BAD storms put 1200 people in the hospital in La Paz with dengue and right after that the whole desert was picked of all the Guaco for tea. Next time I get alergy problems I make a tea.

toneart - 8-19-2010 at 11:07 AM

The big brown ones are not the real toxic ones. It is the little transparent ones that deliver the most harmful stings. Hope you are OK now, Russ.

Pompano- With that scorpion in your pants all those years ago, you are lucky! It kept advance up the pant leg and got you three times. A forth would have hit the bullseye! :o:O:wow::lol:

Bob and Susan - 8-19-2010 at 12:36 PM

russ...you NEED a BLACK-LIGHT flashlight and
POISON:o:o

susan has 27 "kills" this week :o

she walks around the base of our "island"
after dark with her light and sprays:no::no:

good thing none inside...YET:O:O

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Bob and Susan - 8-19-2010 at 12:44 PM

scropians glow when under a black-light

they REALLY stand out

Russ - 8-19-2010 at 12:55 PM

Really haven't seen many in the last few years but this summer I've destroyed about 10 in & around the house.

Paulina - 8-19-2010 at 02:01 PM

Russ,

Your scorpion looks bigger than the one we found this summer. It was under a pile of garbage bags at the college field station in Bahia. I hope your finger heals quickly.



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joel - 8-19-2010 at 02:23 PM

Get "The Extractor"! I've used it several times on myself and family members who have been stung. Works unbelievably well if you get it on within a minute or two. I keep one in each car, one in the bathroom.

Bob and Susan - 8-19-2010 at 03:43 PM

"the extractor"...

do you really want him in the house:lol:

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boe4fun - 8-19-2010 at 03:54 PM

I would suggest you try this: Take a Benedril or a generic for it (or two) and aspirin or tylenol. The antihistimine agent in the Benedril will counteract the neurotoxins and the aspirin will help with the discomfort. I know that this works, at least for me!

Russ - 8-19-2010 at 04:00 PM

Joel, You mean this one? I also have 3 of them but took then out of the boat, quad and car because I never used them and when I did them I forgot I had them.

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BajaBlanca - 8-19-2010 at 04:56 PM

Russ - hope the pain dimishes fast ! :yes:

Bob & Susan - love that Poder Mortal, I put it on the shopping list :fire:

BajaBass - if I EVER see one in our house, you and esp your WIFE can come and stay for free ( I will need her help to hunt down every single last one hahaha!!!) :lol:

David K - 8-19-2010 at 05:11 PM

Glad you survived Russ!

Graham Mackintosh (in his first book) documents the sting of a scorpion very well!

Always have a bottle of TEA TREE OIL (Melaleuca alternifolia) on hand for any poison stings (and a ton of other skin problems, including sunburn and cuts) to apply to the wound... it neutrilizes the venom. It is used in Australia (where it comes from) to treat bites of the funnel web spider... more deadly than our black widow!

Russ - 8-19-2010 at 05:20 PM

DK, I read all sorts of thing about the Tea Tree Oil and so I purchased 3 bottles. It kinda smell like Ben Gay (or what ever that stuff is). I haven't noticed any real benefits in healing or help with stings and I used it quit a bit for a year or so on almost everything from a scratch to sting ray hits. If any one would like a small 1oz. bottle come on over. I may still have a supply. Lots of folks swear by the stuff I just went back to Neosporine.
Oh, the minor effects of the scorpion sting are all gone. Thanks for the concern. Just a bump on the end of my baby finger:tumble:

[Edited on 8-20-2010 by Russ]

dtbushpilot - 8-19-2010 at 05:32 PM

Russ, hope you have a full recovery but if you should take a turn for the worse I will be happy to take care of Mason......if I can have your boat......and Polaris......dt

joel - 8-19-2010 at 05:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Russ
Joel, You mean this one? I also have 3 of them but took then out of the boat, quad and car because I never used them and when I did them I forgot I had them.


Absolutely. I've used them to great effect on scoprion stings as well as bee stings.

Cypress - 8-19-2010 at 05:51 PM

Russ, Glad you're OK.

Russ - 8-19-2010 at 05:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dtbushpilot
Russ, hope you have a full recovery but if you should take a turn for the worse I will be happy to take care of Mason......if I can have your boat......and Polaris......dt


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Pescador - 8-19-2010 at 06:16 PM

Russ, you are the only person I know that would get stung by one of those rascals and then turn around and take a picture of it. If it had stung me there would only be a grease spot to photograph. Glad you are OK

Baja&Back - 8-19-2010 at 06:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by joel
Get "The Extractor"! I've used it several times on myself and family members who have been stung. Works unbelievably well if you get it on within a minute or two. I keep one in each car, one in the bathroom.



Where do you get "The Extractor"???

Russ - 8-19-2010 at 06:57 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Extractor-Professional-Snake-In...
you'll have to copy & paste the whole address or just google "the extractor" That's what I did.

[Edited on 8-20-2010 by Russ]

rhintransit - 8-19-2010 at 07:36 PM

another vote for the extractor, which you can get at any US Walmart in the camping section. under twenty bucks. works great if you use it in time. I can't testify to scorpion stings, knock on wood, none in five years of living in the open air palapa, but bee and wasp stings, yes. I am fairly sensitive to those guys, with massive swelling, associated itching and pain for days, but when I've gotten the extractor on within five minutes of the bite, it only swells like a mosquito bite.

[Edited on 8-20-2010 by rhintransit]

vgabndo - 8-19-2010 at 08:25 PM

Thanks Bugman...exilicauda is the bad guy and has a really skinny tail.

Yes, even their empty exoskeletins glow in UV light.

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Pompano - 8-19-2010 at 09:24 PM

I found 7 of the little yellow guys in my tub when I returned last year. All dead because they could not climb back up the steep sides.

Par for the course.

Doug/Vamonos - 8-19-2010 at 09:57 PM

The blacklight flashlight is awesome. Got one and used it last week when I was there. I went "hunting" every night all over camp and got a minimum of six every night. Used my oar to smash em up. The little body parts kept glowing all week. The lights are amazing. Got mine at Amazon. It's actually spooky how they glow. And from quite a distance, too. If they are out you will not miss them. Very, very easy to see. I learned the little buggers like to live under rocks and have little holes to crawl in and out.

CortezBlue - 8-19-2010 at 10:41 PM

Ok, living n the desert in the foothills of hoenix, I have been bitten several times and nce twice in a row. I would say, that with a critter of this size you shouldnt have any troubles. The smaller te scorpion the more aggressive the sting. I was bit on my thumb. near my finger nail, and I was numbe fo about 36 hours from my hand up to my elbow.

You should be in good shape

Baja&Back - 8-19-2010 at 10:50 PM

Thanks, Russ. Bought one on Amazon.

BajaDove - 8-20-2010 at 05:32 AM

They hurt like heck when they bite, but the worst is when it heals. For two days it will itch so much you want to scratch your skin off. The itch seems deep inside.

wessongroup - 8-20-2010 at 05:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Russ
Joel, You mean this one? I also have 3 of them but took then out of the boat, quad and car because I never used them and when I did them I forgot I had them.


Russ, your the man... glad you remember your camera :lol::lol:

Bob and Susan - 8-20-2010 at 06:48 AM

susan was on a "mission" last night again...

7 more casualties...:o:o

the monsters were attacking the island from the desert
it's WAR!!!:saint::saint:

Russ - 8-20-2010 at 07:10 AM

c-cktail in one hand, black light in one hand & the killer spray in the other?:?:

wessongroup - 8-20-2010 at 07:12 AM

Russ, need a hat with a light on it... that way you have two hands free for the important things...

ELINVESTIG8R - 8-20-2010 at 07:20 AM

Thank goodness is was the big one and not the little one. I'm happy that you are ok.

Trueheart - 8-20-2010 at 02:18 PM

Russ:

Thanks for the pics. Just curious, since your at shell beach, how many scorpions do you see routinely, and do their sizes/colors vary? Are there more at certain times of the year?

Hope you heal well. More Tequila would help!

Steve

Russ - 8-20-2010 at 02:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Trueheart
Russ:

Thanks for the pics. Just curious, since your at shell beach, how many scorpions do you see routinely, and do their sizes/colors vary? Are there more at certain times of the year?

Hope you heal well. More Tequila would help!

Steve


I don't see to many and mostly in late spring but they're around all year.
The sting was never a big deal, this time. I just love sympathy and Nomads are full if it:lol:

Pescador - 8-20-2010 at 03:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Russ
c-cktail in one hand, black light in one hand & the killer spray in the other?:?:


As Larry the Cable Guy would say, now there is someone who knows how to have fun. I had a friend who got one of those really sophisticated bug zappers and he would take a shot of tequila when the strike happened. He usually ended up really blitzed on good nights when the bugs were thick. Shoot, we don't need no "damned TV to entertain ourselves down here.:lol::lol::lol:

The Cure

Skipjack Joe - 8-20-2010 at 03:34 PM

Internal and external applications of alcohol.

willyAirstream - 8-20-2010 at 04:09 PM

Sorry you got bit Russ, but I'm sure glad to learn about these skinny lobsters and the solutions for living with them.

Marc - 8-20-2010 at 05:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Osprey
Need to see one of your ranchero pals and get a little jar of Guaco weed. Instant relief, like it never happened.

It's a vine, the rancheros just dry it, grind it up, put it in jar with a little tequila, keep it handy for any kind of bite, skin problem. Wicked strong antihistamine of the natural kind.


Drink it? Or rub it in??:?:

Marc - 8-20-2010 at 05:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by vgabndo
Thanks Bugman...exilicauda is the bad guy and has a really skinny tail.

Yes, even their empty exoskeletins glow in UV light.


In Ajo, AZ we find hundreds with a UV light.

Marc - 8-20-2010 at 05:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Ouch! Tough luck, Russ, but glad you missed the Big Event.

I've had my share of stings over the years, too. As you know, one can't avoid it for long in Baja if you are into palms, bark, yardwork, etc.

My worst sting was my first, naturally. The fear of the unknown and all that stuff. I was stung 3 times by the same dang scorpion:

Desert camping with buddy Randy, 1973. It was nighttime at the campfire and I had my boots up on a burning log when I felt something crawling up my pantsleg just above the boot top. I reached down to feel what it was when ..Zing! it got me good. I yelled and rubbed at the spot, but it crawled a bit higher up my leg and stung me again on the knee as I tried to crush whatever was in my pants. I was pretty excited and alarmed Randy a bit, too.

Then it got to the top of my leg and stung me the third time just below the groin.

Hells Bells, I was damn frantic by this time and hit that spot with my fist..QUICK AND HARD...and smashed that damn crawling thing to a pulp. Another couple inches further up and it was Home Territory. (I can just see Randy administrating First Aid with a machete and tournaquit)

I jumped up and hurriedly took off my jeans..shaking the squashed invader into the fire..just to make sure! Those three sting areas were now on fire themselves..Ohh, did they hurt!

Now's when the fun started.

Our companions were Richard Long and his then wife, Shirley. Shirley was a stone fox blonde from Georgia. She took control of this situation very expertly. She said to just relax, and she would help with the pain. I might survive after all. She had me sit down on the back of my Jeep gangbox, legs dangling over the endgate. ..with just my shorts on.

Shirley came back with some ice cubes and starting rubbing the stings with the soothing coolness. First the one on my shin, then the one on my knee...ahh, I was feeling much, much better. And could not wait until the final wound was treated!

But Shirley was looking at my grinning face, then gave me the ice, saying, "You can handle it from here, cowboy."

Ahhh..those were fine times. Almost wish I could stand a repeat of those stings!

Scorpion stuff:

Russ, did you know scorpions can range from 3/4 to 9 inches? :o

One of our local Mexican varieties is one of the deadliest, species Centruriodes. but thank God most people report no more pain than that of a honeybee. The good news is, that in North America only the Centruroides is a known killer of humans. The bad news is, they live in Mexico and the extreme southwestern USA.

They are usually old-straw-yellow or yellow with dark longitudinal stripes, and reach from two to 7.5 centimeters in length. Their pincers are long and slender as opposed to bulky and lobster-like. The sting, immediately and exquisitely painful, is increased by a light tap on the site.

Deaths have almost exclusively been in small children, the elderly, and the severely allergic.

First aid for any scorpion sting should involve cooling the wound which allows the body to more easily break down the molecular structure of the venom. Cooling also reduces pain. Use ice or cool running water if available. Also a local poultice of aloe vera and palo blanco bark. On a warm night, a wet compress will help. Keeping calm and still helps..not like me on that first night! . Panic and activity speed up the venom's spread. If the scorpion was Centruroides, you might have heavy sweating, difficulty swallowing, blurred vision, loss of bowel control, jerky muscular reflexes, and respiratory distress..often resulting in pitching face down into the campfire.

Well..good luck with next sting, amigo!


Last sentence reminds me of that bottle of Crendain at Santispac in '08.:barf:

MitchMan - 8-20-2010 at 06:06 PM

Last year I came back to my home in Calif after a two week vacation in La Paz. Apparently I brought back a good sized scorpion somewhere in my luggage. Got home at 8pm at night left my bags in my bedroom. Next morning at about 9am my wife came to me n the kitchen with a dead scorpion (the size of the one next to the crumpled up coke ) and wrapped in a tissue . She said she was making up the bed and found this live critter under her pillow on the bed. She killed it and wanted to confirm that it was a scorpion while she was looking at me slightly accusatorily.

Not sure where that thing come on board onto my luggage: from my yard at the La Paz house, in the taxi trunk on the way to the air port, in the luggage compartment on the plane? Very spooky. Good thing my wife is not afraid of anything. She's awesome and very self sufficient.

vgabndo - 8-20-2010 at 10:11 PM

YIKES...just when you think you can go to bed without shaking the sheets.......

WE brought back home...

Mexray - 8-20-2010 at 11:40 PM

...one of Russ' 'kissing cousins' for our grand daughter to put in an old terrarium...

She made a nice sandy habitat, with some stuff for 'Sting' to hide under, along with some moisture once in a while...she fed 'Sting' several crickets every week - good ole 'Sting' lived over five years -

Human visitors that got a glimpse of 'Sting' couldn't quite figure out our 'choice' of pets...:D

Bob & Susan - no need to save any of your glowing critters for us - we've moved on to dogs and cats...;D

Ray

Baja neighbor gets double whammy.

Pompano - 8-21-2010 at 03:33 AM

A Coyote Bay neighbor got a double whammy one afternoon...but not from just a scorpion.

First a scorpion stung him in the morning while doing some chores. Okay, not so bad as this was not his first sting, but very uncomfortable nevertheless.

What made his day worse was later in the day when a black widow got him when he sat down on his chair to have a c-cktail.

The combination of scorpion sting and black widow bite sent him to the hospital. Poor Bob...what a day!

BajaBlanca - 8-21-2010 at 04:11 PM

talk about a bad hair day .....

Bob and Susan - 8-21-2010 at 04:29 PM

last nite in the DMZ...

5 more casualties:saint::saint:

tonite...pictures:o

Bob and Susan - 8-22-2010 at 11:10 AM

9:30 PM and NOT ONE:O:O

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Russ - 8-22-2010 at 01:52 PM

Quite the huntress:o

grace59 - 8-22-2010 at 02:20 PM

Seem though like she'd be better equiped with a Flak Jacket and a pair of combat boots instead of flip flops! :lol:

BajaBlanca - 8-22-2010 at 03:01 PM

well, I have NEVER seen a scorpion inside our house in the 4 years we have been living here (Lord, please CONTINUE keep your eye on us), but we have seen a few under rocks and garbage cans and esp under wood. We saw a huge TARANTULA once. Black widows everywhere outside. More commonly seen is a 4 legged creature named REX and doves and pidgeons and of course the Ospreys in front of the house :yes::tumble::spingrin:

shari - 8-22-2010 at 03:10 PM

never say never blanca...the first one I saw after 5 years living here fell out of my shorts just before I put them on...I had taken them out of a drawer....ewww. Ya just never know...some years there are none and other year there are lots...but yup, black widow bites are way worse.

wessongroup - 8-22-2010 at 05:55 PM

Would suggest that this material, Demon Wetable Powder, produced by Syngenta, be considered ... this is a very effective material against most of the critters which tend to bother us... including scorpions and is double tough on spiders (black widows for sure) ants and roaches .....

The material has a very low LD50 ... 1800 mg/kg for rats... which makes it a Caution for warning label...

It also holds up very well in extreme temperatures and can be used in food storage areas, not food handling areas.. with normal precautions... very good control for 3-4 months

Have been using for 20 plus years.. buy a one lb. jar and it last... a long, long time... very little needed per gallon of mix..

A back pack sprayer or a hand held one gallon can get the job done quite easily ... put a band of 6-8 ft around the structure as a barrier... treat up the walls 3-4' and do the base boards, and cracks and crevices... one can spray the closets and cloths storage areas too... plus I used to do the shop area too... funny how critters like to stay in wood scraps... even would spay my fire wood too... the material is not registered for "food handling" areas.. I do use in the kitchen.. base boards, under counters, in drawers, and cupboards.. just not where food is actually prepared...

Good luck.. have sprayed all three places we have rented so far... going in ... and with follow up treatments... no problems with the critters thus far..

If they were ladybugs, and many of the butter flies and others which don't cause problems, I would not worry and would share living space, but... these other critters can put a real hurt on one... small children are much more sensitive to the bits and/or sting ... so.. will opt for safe than sorry

Good luck.. they are part of our "environment".. banding seems the fairest ... I give them the entire world except where I'm staying.. at this time...

jahImpala3 - 8-22-2010 at 06:05 PM

Pompano, you sure do have a story for every occasion. I love reading them all.

Shell~Gal - 8-23-2010 at 10:36 AM

OWEY !!!!!!!!