BajaNomad - 285-Slip Cabo Riviera Marina Under Way in La Ribera

285-Slip Cabo Riviera Marina Under Way in La Ribera

BajaNews - 8-20-2010 at 04:47 PM

http://www.thelog.com/news/logNewsArticle.aspx?x=11224

By: Capt. Pat Rains
August 18, 2010

EAST CAPE, Baja California Sur, Mexico -- Southern Baja California Sur looks like it will soon have another new marina to ease the slip shortage. Cabo Riviera is a 900-acre residential village development at the East Cape fishing town of La Ribera.

Boat owners will be glad to see that Cabo Riviera is dredging deep-water channels to form 11 elongated islands with about 100 homesites, and each island homeowner will have alongside berthing for his or her own yacht.

Combined with a separate guest marina, the new resort plans to provide 285 full-service slips, a drydock, concierge fueling capability and a dry stack storage area, according to Cabo Riviera sales associate Nydia Altamirano.

The stubs of twin breakwaters are already built on Cabo Riviera’s 2 miles of sandy beachfront, but like the construction of Marina Puerto Los Cabos down the coast, a land plug will remain in place to keep the sea out until after the marina’s interior channels are dredged and built out.

By creating the channels, “Our 2 miles of beachfront becomes 10 miles of waterfront,” said Cabo Riviera CEO Mariano Mariscal, who has been involved with the property since 2005.

The private development will also have an 18-hole Pete Dye championship golf course, a boutique hotel, a health spa, tennis courts and an artists’ village designed with classical European-style architecture, according to the website:
http://www.caboriviera.com.mx

This East Cape location is a natural for sport anglers and Baja California nature lovers, because it’s on the south side of Bahia Las Palmas and at the head of the Santiago and Trinidad underwater canyons. The broad shelf just outside La Ribera is known for roosterfish.

East Cape has long been a popular destination for sportfishing and RV camping. Up in the nearby Laguna Mountains, several quaint 1900s silver mining towns have been renovated. Their brick buildings have been turned into shops, restaurants, and bed and breakfast inns.

Cabo Riviera lies 60 nautical miles up the coast from Cabo San Lucas, 45 miles from Marina Puerto Los Cabos, 16 miles northwest of Cabo Pulmo National Marine Park, 25 miles southeast of Muertos Bay and 75 miles southeast of La Paz Harbor.

Last month, Grumar, the developing company of Cabo Riviera, donated state-of-the-art medical equipment and inaugurated a new hospital in La Ribera.

surfer jim - 8-20-2010 at 05:03 PM

BAJA at it's finest.

Cardon Man - 8-20-2010 at 05:16 PM

Spare me! :lol:

slimshady - 8-20-2010 at 09:38 PM

It should be completed in the fall of 2029, so get your deposits in for ocean front lots.

wilderone - 8-21-2010 at 07:37 AM

Witih luck, there will be a hurricane or two in the meantime to wipe the land clean of this atrocity.

capt. mike - 8-21-2010 at 07:56 AM

good time to buy.

Osprey - 8-21-2010 at 08:26 AM

All you Nomad yachties are going to be very sorry you didn't get in on this when the prices were rediculously low for seed money and founders. When the lots are ready the recession will be ancient history, you'll all be wealthy from stock gains when things come roaring back. Mark my words.

slimshady - 8-21-2010 at 07:38 PM

It may be built but the time frame promised by those selling the lots may exceed some of the purchasers life spans. Sounds like the Maravia development in La Paz promising two golf courses and all those homes yet they only have maybe eight model homes and no golf course. Maybe twenty years out.

wilderone - 8-22-2010 at 07:48 AM

I'm praying for rain. 40 days and 40 nights.

805gregg - 8-22-2010 at 04:36 PM

Did they build the big entry ach yet? That's how you can tell they are for real.

Cardon Man - 8-23-2010 at 07:43 AM

Looks like they are simply pushing dirt around for the most part.

bajamigo - 8-23-2010 at 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Osprey
All you Nomad yachties are going to be very sorry you didn't get in on this when the prices were rediculously low for seed money and founders. When the lots are ready the recession will be ancient history, you'll all be wealthy from stock gains when things come roaring back. Mark my words.

That was true in the twentieth century. Not any more.

slimshady - 8-23-2010 at 09:37 AM

So how many people even bought lots. I would be curious to know? Any numbers out there?

Dave - 8-23-2010 at 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by wilderone
Witih luck, there will be a hurricane or two in the meantime to wipe the land clean of this atrocity.

Why this hostility toward yachties? They don't have the right to a facility built for their needs?

durrelllrobert - 8-23-2010 at 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by slimshady
So how many people even bought lots. I would be curious to know? Any numbers out there?

probably about the same number that have purchased lots at the promised Tiger Woods Punta Brava development here in Punt Banda :lol:

bajamigo - 8-23-2010 at 09:21 PM

Right, Bob, I think I might have met him once.

Dave i theeeeenk it amounts to basic

capt. mike - 8-24-2010 at 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave

Quote:

Originally posted by wilderone
Witih luck, there will be a hurricane or two in the meantime to wipe the land clean of this atrocity.

Why this hostility toward yachties? They don't have the right to a facility built for their needs?

jealosy and class war...the haves vs the have knots...

i had drinks with a guy last nite here in havascrew who has more $$$$$$$ and toys than god, boats, planes you name it.
i applaud his success and the means to have STUFF!
we're here for a good time, not a long time.

make your way or get out of the way of others.
i love capitalism...it follows all the Darwinian precepts....the fittest and all that. :lol:

wilderone - 8-24-2010 at 08:37 AM

"Why this hostility toward yachties?"

Not hostile toward yachties at all. Did you miss this:

"The private development will also have an 18-hole Pete Dye championship golf course, a boutique hotel, a health spa, tennis courts and an artists’ village designed with classical European-style architecture, ..."

Don't need more drain on the water resources; don't need another golf course; don't need tennis courts in 110 degree heat; don't need effing european architecture to eff up this unique ecologicaly sensitive environment.

I am not a have-not - so absurd. Class war? How immature. I was a secretary to a state assemblyman and fed. court judge; partied with my boss who was on the cover of Forbes, friends with a war hero whose story was covered in a magazine, spent 2 weeks in Hawaii in May in $400/nt. condo and dined with the owner of an upscale restaurant, etc., etc. and plenty of etc. I don't give a RtsAs about someone owning a yacht and everything it entails. I get the same thing with my kayak, tent, and the same sunset they get. I live in a resort town, own properties with swimming pools, have a golf course 3 blocks from my house, beaches, etc.
Baja CA simply does not need more pollution of all types which will absolutely be the case with any marina, golf course and development, to despoil its uniquely special places, as well as more pressure on marine life - which has always been my stance on the matter, and to defend the defenseless with no voice. Don't call me names again, Mike - maybe just look in the mirror and ask yourself the same questions - maybe you're dazzled by the perceived "haves" and feel left out.

windgrrl - 8-24-2010 at 09:02 AM

Link to Cabo Pulmo Vivo website for more information:

http://tinyurl.com/29yvpao

In other news, apparently Green Peace is getting involved...so get stocked up on the beer and nachos for the lib/con dino stomp showdown. :saint:

Osprey - 8-24-2010 at 09:16 AM

Not to swerve the post more but I live here and I can tell you with good authority that the jefe of the Cabo Cortez project (re Cabo Pulmo) told a lot of local power dudes "President Calderon wants the Cabo Cortez project to be a success and it will happen, with or without you."

On Cabo Riviera, don't take your eye off the ball. The owners are land developers -- they HOPE to sell land to golf course people, they HOPE to sell land to condo people, they HOPE to sell land to hotel people, marina people, people who might build a home. Don't confuse these people with Loreta Bay -- they just sell a dream and the dream is dirt close to a pretty beach. In this case, my beach.

[Edited on 8-24-2010 by Osprey]

[Edited on 8-24-2010 by Osprey]

windgrrl - 8-24-2010 at 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Osprey
Not to swerve the post more but I live here and I can tell you with good authority that the jefe of the Cabo Cortez project (re Cabo Pulmo) told a lot of local power dudes "President Calderon wants the Cabo Cortez project to be a success and it will happen, with or without you."

On Cabo Riviera, don't take your eye off the ball. The owners are land developers -- they HOPE to sell land to golf course people, they HOPE to sell land to condo people, they HOPE to sell land to hotel people, marina people, people who might build a home. Don't confuse these people with Loreta Bay -- they just sell a dream and the dream is dirt close to a pretty beach. In this case, my beach.

[Edited on 8-24-2010 by Osprey]

[Edited on 8-24-2010 by Osprey]

I wonder if these developments are some kind of compromise with or project enhancement of long range tourism development planning. I recall a plan to establish docks for cruise lines across Baja that was contested.

monoloco - 8-24-2010 at 09:31 AM

I don't exactly see people tripping over themselves to buy into all the other resorts like this in Cabo, Los Cerritos, Todos Santos, Los Muertos, La Paz, and Loreto, it seems like there is way more resort properties than buyers. So why would this one be any different? IMO they are burning cash and the payback, if there is one, is decades away.

Osprey - 8-24-2010 at 09:40 AM

Cabo was selling 90 million a month in time shares not that very long ago. That's not chump change and they are still building, selling, building, selling down there. Recession or no, paradise will always sell.

Osprey - 8-24-2010 at 09:50 AM

Did you come to this board to invite members to argue with you? Chill or leave us to our business.

Bob and Susan - 8-24-2010 at 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
More people die each day in Mexico than in both Iraq and Afganistan combined.

that's just NOT true...

Osprey - 8-24-2010 at 10:19 AM

You don't leave my posts unanswered and now you're coming at us from all angles. First you owned a big house out in the boonies and loved it. Now it turns out you're the caretaker! You got burglarized and lost all your stuff. Whose stuff was it? Level out, man up and it will be fun to argue with you if that's what you want but this puppet show is dumb and most members won't play.

Bielefeld - 8-24-2010 at 12:27 PM

This is a photo of the modell for the development.

Part of it is in the big arroyo which runs north of town. The salesguy said, they will detour the arroyo so the development would not be effected by it.... :lol:

Keep on dreaming!!!

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capt. mike - 8-24-2010 at 01:09 PM

"Don't call me names again, Mike - maybe just look in the mirror and ask yourself the same questions - maybe you're dazzled by the perceived "haves" and feel left out."

ouch....was it a nerve?...i didn't ref to you personally - i was opining globally.

i am a proud "have not". hahahaha good thing i have rico friends too, i get to sponge off their fun all the time and they like having me on board.

i do enjoy soaring with eco nutzies tho. i actually like you. hahaha
ain't internet chatting fun? don't take it so seriously girl - get some skin.

monoloco - 8-24-2010 at 01:36 PM

I don't know anything specifically about this development, but what bothers me is that if their funding runs short and it doesn't fly, which is always a possibility in this economy, what's left is a giant scar on the Baja coast, like Loreto Bay only worse.

Bob and Susan - 8-24-2010 at 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fishabductor
Mexico: Iraq is safer
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/mexico/articles/20081215.asp...

Afghanistan 7000 civilian deaths since 2007
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/aug/10/afghanis...

World murder rates.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murde...

Mexico has had more than 28,000 deaths since 2006
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/04/mexico-drug-violenc...

did you read these...
#1
the first sites no data
just because its posted on the internet doesn't make it a fact

my contacts in iraq won't leave the base
in fear of getting shot
it's DANGEROUS there!!!

#2
Data from 2007...it's 2010 today
and what is murder...war

#3
World murder rates
Math...
USA 16,204 murders
MEX 13,144 murders
no year...iraq and afgan not mentioned

#4
2006 data included
we could include the civil war...lots of people died then

marina...

i never thought that marina south of tj would never be built
looks pretty good and FULL today

just wait and see....

vandy - 8-24-2010 at 07:11 PM

Back to the basics: Is this new place even going to work physically?

Did they do a sediment-movement study with beach transects? (to find out if the sand is eroding or accreting). How much of this sand was contributed by the arroyo?

Have they catalogued longshore sediment transport? (To see how much sand passes along the beach through wave/current action and in what directions).

Are the armor rocks on the breakwaters large enough to withstand large wave action?

Do the breakwaters have a large/deep enough base to withstand "sinking" into the sand below?

Can they reroute a flooding arroyo? Maybe we'll find out shortly...

vandy - 8-24-2010 at 07:57 PM

Nah, just a well-educated and practical fishing bum. I know how to do the field and brain work to answer those questions I posed, but nobody's offered to pay me.

Skipjack Joe - 8-24-2010 at 07:59 PM

I'm with wilderone. Models like this are nauseating just to look at.

In the end you just stop going to that part of baja and pretend it doesn't exist.

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Osprey - 8-25-2010 at 06:19 AM

vandy, I can answer some of your questions. It should have been easier this time around for Grupo Mar who built the Puerta La Salina marina near Ensenada -- the plans up north called for two marinas but natural erosion took out one of them. The same engineer did this one and the erosion is already a big problem here. The base rock for the jetties started out river rock and bowling ball size -- they finally got bigger ones but no storms or big seas have yet come to test them. I don't think they know what a challenge it will be to build the desal, sewer, undergrounds when that time comes -- things are pretty primitive down this way and the village gets by on pretty basic water/electrical/sewer systems as it is. It also might be a problem for them to sell the dream to hotel/golf/condo developers because those potential buyers might have already learned (by watching the wind surfing action) that the north winds howl here from Oct. to Mar. enough to cut way down on their iffy opportunities for sucess. Puerta La Salina is in it's 13th year and was very simple compared to this rare finger island theme so it's gonna take a while to see how it all lays out. What happens in N. Korea and Iran and elsewhere could change everything in the blink of an eye.

capt. mike - 8-25-2010 at 06:20 AM

"The whole state of BCS has a population 425,000."

i seriously doubt the veracity of that statement.

Cardon Man - 8-25-2010 at 11:26 AM

Yeah, those breakwaters will get moved around some if/when a good storm tests them. Another thing, the channel entering the marina is facing due north right into the wind and waves...brillaint engineering there!

Having spent a good deal of time fishing that beach over the years I know first hand just how many species of fish spawn in and around the lagoons. Ever seen what comes out of a cast net in those lagoons? All manner of baby critters...pargos, jacks, mullets, milkfish, even snook.
In an area which bases a significant part of it's economy on fishing related tourism it seems foolish to tamper with the nursery that rears so much bait and sport fish.

mulegemichael - 8-25-2010 at 11:46 AM

IMHO; a complete screwup...taking the quaint, quiet, secluded personality of one of the east capes finest little villages and throwing it down the shi**er...too damn bad.

Cabo Riviera Marina Advances on East Cape

BajaNews - 2-6-2011 at 12:25 PM

http://www.thelog.com/news/logNewsArticle.aspx?x=12034

By: Capt. Pat Rains
February 04, 2011

LA RIBERA, Baja California Sur -- “Construction of marina channels is advancing on schedule,” said Nydia Altamirano, marketing director for Cabo Riviera Marina, a 900-acre East Cape resort.

Containing 12 islands with private home sites between deep-water channels, the marina basin will provide slips and alongside berthing for 285 boats, a dry dock and dry stack storage area, plus a concierge service to fuel and prepare residents’ boats before they arrive. An area of guest docks is planned within the basin, as well.

Scheduled to open on or before Aug. 31, the resort includes an 18-hole golf course, an artists’ village of shops and restaurants, a boutique hotel and a spa.

Check it out at La Ribera, a quaint fishing community about 20 miles north of Cabo Pulmo National Park and Los Frailes. Prospective buyers are being introduced to the property with live music, beach parties and wine-tasting events.

Cabo Riviera has an office in San Jose del Cabo and in La Ribera. For more information, call Altamirano at (619) 270-8771, or visit:
http://www.caboriviera.com

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Fantasticio opportunities at San Felipe Marina

mcfez - 2-7-2011 at 07:07 AM

High rise condos within a few blocks: Incomplete after 5 years of construction.

Sea side condos within the harbor district: except for one....all sits vacant for the last 5 years.

Hundred plus boat slips available: about ten in the water....the rest are stacked, rotting away in the vacant lot 3 blocks away.

Would I buy future lots of "promises" of a Marina? Oh yes!

Bob H - 2-7-2011 at 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by capt. mike

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave

Quote:

Originally posted by wilderone
Witih luck, there will be a hurricane or two in the meantime to wipe the land clean of this atrocity.

Why this hostility toward yachties? They don't have the right to a facility built for their needs?

Capt. Mike... very well said! :yes:

monoloco - 2-7-2011 at 08:35 AM

If other projects of this magnitude are any indication, there is a very high chance that the project will run into funding problems and end up as an unfinished, un-maintained eyesore and a blight on the East Cape environment. Real estate in Baja Sur is not moving and there is no indication that it will pickup anytime soon, Mexico needs to address their security issues before there is a meaningful turn around in the demand for real estate here. The Mexican government should require a bond from developers to insure they actually have the finances to complete these developments, I can see one from my house that they destroyed an estuary to build, and has gone nowhere for 5 years, it's an eyesore and lowers everyone's property values.

[Edited on 2-7-2011 by monoloco]

Cardon Man - 2-8-2011 at 08:12 AM

"If people destroy something replaceable made by mankind, they are called vandals; if they destroy something irreplaceable made by God, they are called developers."
----Joseph Wood Krutch

Bajahowodd - 2-8-2011 at 05:12 PM

This thread reminds me of that shell of a building on the Cabo Marina that has often been referred to as Casa De Ghosto. Despite all of the upscale improvements that have been made arounbd the marina, this shell of a building is well into its second decade of neglect. It just strikes me as a negative stain.