BajaNomad - Montezuma`s Revenge Got Me (Part 1)--- Part 2 Added!

Montezuma`s Revenge Got Me (Part 1)--- Part 2 Added!

BornFisher - 8-23-2010 at 09:18 PM

Whoooops...... gotta go!! Part 2 tomorrow, complete with pictures and GPS #`s!!!! Details tomorrow, I promise!!
Meanwhile check out-----
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarrhea

[Edited on 8-24-2010 by BornFisher]

[Edited on 8-24-2010 by BornFisher]

bajamigo - 8-23-2010 at 09:19 PM

Spare us.

Osprey - 8-24-2010 at 06:16 AM

One word: Treda. Best anti diarrhea - anti bacterial there ever was for traveling in the tropics.

rocmoc - 8-24-2010 at 06:25 AM

Not fun. I got the Revenge so bad last March on the mainland I had to go to the local clinic for 2 IVs & meds. After 3 days I was getting worst. By the afternoon of the clinic visit, I was feeling better. Was well in time for a Mexican Wedding we had been invited to & had a great time. My emergency visit to the clinic, one of our local friends got me in the back door before ithe clinic opened, cost 190 pesos which included 2 IVs, 6 meds & 2 shots. My better 3/4s was starting to feel poorly and ask if she could get it from taking care of me. The Doc said yes and gave her a shot & half of the meds. We Donated an additional 110 pesos to the clinic for supplies as the clinic is not allow to charge extra because you are not a local. Several other people came in with the same problem while I was receiving the IVs but were not in as bad shape, they were younger. The Revenge can be sirius for the more mature individual.

rocmoc n AZ/Baja

BajaDove - 8-24-2010 at 06:49 AM

Treda is great. Even use it when the stateside activities get to me, but drink water and rehydragents with it. Do not use cervasa in place of water.

surfer jim - 8-24-2010 at 07:16 AM

I can't wait...for tomorrow. :bounce:

Bob H - 8-24-2010 at 07:24 AM

Hate when that happens.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveler's_diarrhea

Mike99km - 8-24-2010 at 07:53 AM

Please leave out the GPS points. Some of us like a little adventure. :lol:

BajaBlanca - 8-24-2010 at 07:54 AM

ohhhhhhh I got food poisoning once from eating lobster soup in a san diego restaurant ... North of the Border, whose revenge is it ? Maybe put a twist on it and call it "Pocahontas's Revenge ?"

Bajajorge - 8-24-2010 at 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Osprey
One word: Treda. Best anti diarrhea - anti bacterial there ever was for traveling in the tropics.

Si Si Si

durrelllrobert - 8-24-2010 at 09:04 AM

my ex used to get it as soon as we borded plane heading for MX. hope she still gets it just thinking about me living in MX :lol:

slimshady - 8-24-2010 at 09:26 AM

I think I may have had it two years ago. That was an awesome weight loss plan even though it was not intended.

BornFisher - 8-24-2010 at 11:38 AM

PART 2--
Well it all started out at the carnitas place, or the shrimp taco fried in butter place, or it may have come from the "Bomb" burrito I bought early in the morning for breakfast. I`ve read that the incubation period may be up to 3 days, so I can`t be sure of which meal it was from. I`d have to accuse the shrimp taco as being the #1 suspect. This was from a popular place, a bit bigger than a stand but really a rustic Baja style place. They fry the shrimp in butter and serve them on a homemade tortilla. You then chose the condiments you want from the bowls sitting on the counter. I piled on cabbage, onions, salsa, crema, and then some lime juice. The dangers of non-refrigerated food on a counter were ignored and I chased down my taco with a Mexican coke! Ahhhhhhhh...............................
So anyway, hours later I`m on my way home and feel that feeling that says "Oh oh". Hoping it is a one feeling event, I drive on putting it out of my mind. Then maybe 15 minutes, there is that feeling again. I now figured trouble may be on its way.
Luckily I made it home before it really started tearing me up. Won`t get into the details here but let`s just say it was a horrible 2 step for the next several hours.
From what I`ve read, you build up an immunity for a year or so after an episode. So bring on the shrimp tacos!! For a year anyway!!
BTW, this is no laughing matter for many. Take this seriously and hope if you get it, it be routine.

bajabass - 8-24-2010 at 11:50 AM

Well Bill, I hope everything comes out O.K.!!! LOL No joke, horrible losing control of ones bodily functions.

PJPadilla - 8-24-2010 at 12:39 PM

Several yrs ago I landed in Barcelona to begin a four week journey through Europe. Two days later, still in Barcelona, I ate a bad chicken sandwich. I continued on with the trip, but it consisted of nothing more than running from one public toilet to another. Four weeks later I flew back to the U.S., 32 lbs lighter and on the plane wearing the only pair of pants that fit, my wife's blue jeans. It took me about a year to fully return to normal.

surfer jim - 8-24-2010 at 12:51 PM

Good...no need to wait another day for more details.....and where are those PICTURES? :wow:

AmoPescar - 8-24-2010 at 12:54 PM

NATURAL DIARRHEA REMEDY...

Keep NUTMEG in the house or with you when you travel!!!

Put 1 TABLESPOON (rounded over) full into about 6-8 oz. of milk. Stir it well and drink it down. Not the best tasting thing in the world, BUT it sure does work good!!!

If it doesn't work in a couple of hours, you can repeat.

This is an old time cure which was given to my Mother by a neighbor.

Miguelamo :yes:

bajabass - 8-24-2010 at 01:53 PM

That concoction would send everything hurling out the other end! :barf:

AmoPescar - 8-24-2010 at 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by bajabass
That concoction would send everything hurling out the other end! :barf:

IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD!!! I'VE USED THIS CURE MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS AND IT WORKS WONDERS!

JUST SWALLOW IT QUICKLY LIKE A SHOT!

MIGUELAMO :yes:

Tbone - 8-25-2010 at 07:51 AM

A couple of years ago I had a case of the trots so bad we had to stop at every Pemex from BOLA to home (with a few remote stops in between). I think I got it from a cantaloupe purchased at Xitlali store in BOLA. I don’t eat any produce in Mexico anymore unless I bring it from the states.

surfer jim - 8-25-2010 at 09:19 AM

After one really bad round of this stuff some years ago I don't eat ANYTHING from BAJA anymore. Everything comes from home. :yes:

David K - 8-25-2010 at 09:25 AM

You sure miss a lot of the good 'Mexico' experience by being overly cautious.

I got seriously sick after eating a clam c-cktail in San Felipe back in 2003 (I had them in San Vicente and Ensenada previously without an issue).

So, no more raw clam coctails for me (as a precaution)... but if I stopped eating all Mexican food after that, I would be missiong a big part of the Baja experience (and maybe some extra pounds)!

bajabass - 8-25-2010 at 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by surfer jim
After one really bad round of this stuff some years ago I don't eat ANYTHING from BAJA anymore. Everything comes from home. :yes:

That is too bad Jim! Some of the best food I've eaten in my life has come from Baja! Got M.R. once, on my way out of Mexico City. Bad ice at the airport bar. Hit me before I got off the plane. I eat in Baja almost every weekend, and have never gotten sick. Maybe 4 years of Marine Corps food built up my immune system! :light:

Pompano - 8-25-2010 at 09:57 AM

I've spent 40 seasons in Baja Sur.

I've had Montezuma's Revenge at least 40 times.

If I didn't get it at least once a year, it wouldn't be Baja, would it?. :rolleyes:

p.s. Charmin Extra Soft...I buy it by the pallet at Costco.

[Edited on 8-25-2010 by Pompano]

toneart - 8-25-2010 at 10:00 AM

Yuck! I don't want to go down that "slippery slope"!

bajajurel - 8-25-2010 at 09:17 PM

Always carry Cipro!

Curt63 - 10-24-2011 at 10:13 PM

On Friday night, my buddy and I danced with Montezumas wife all night long, but no vomiting.

By morning we were done with it.

She showed up about 10:30 pm. 4 hours after a dinner of ceviche and 15 hours after eating a carne asada torta

We suspect it was unrinsed cilantro that we put in the ceviche (made with mexican vegetables).

Torta or cilantro? Any thoughts?

mtgoat666 - 10-24-2011 at 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BornFisher
PART 2--
Well it all started out at the carnitas place, or the shrimp taco fried in butter place, or it may have come from the "Bomb" burrito I bought early in the morning for breakfast. I`ve read that the incubation period may

Luckily I made it home before it really started tearing me up. Won`t get into the details here but let`s just say it was a horrible 2 step for the next several hours.

why are you telling us this? i mean, it's fun to joke around about poop, but none of us really care to hear the details about your actual ch1t.

your telling your story here makes me think you think you are the first person to ever have an upset tummy!

surfer jim - 10-24-2011 at 11:14 PM

...maybe you should try some of those shrimp tacos or the "bomb" burrito and report back on how you feel?...... :rolleyes:

wessongroup - 10-25-2011 at 12:13 AM

goat .... think about it... ya might lose some pretty good stuff..... like Pompano's

"I buy it by the pallet at Costco" ,,,, or Tone's

"slippery slope"

just saying.. :biggrin:

Cypress - 10-25-2011 at 05:28 AM

Was sick once, some bad Tecate.

Curt63 - 10-25-2011 at 06:29 AM

Hey 666

Next time you cruise this site, check out the subject before you start reading. It's usually an indication (not always) of what's being discussed. If there are subjects you don't want to hear about, you know what to do.

bajabass - 10-25-2011 at 06:38 AM

Both Bill and this thread are old!! Just kidding Bill, see ya tomorrow!!

MitchMan - 10-25-2011 at 07:47 AM

Haven't had MR since I stopped putting 'crema' on my tacos.

mcfez - 10-25-2011 at 09:57 AM

In the days that we used to visit Puerto Vallarta.... back in the early 80's ......everyone emphasized bottled water...or soda, so that they would not get the ol' Montezuma`s Revenge. Picky picky picky were my friends about getting "that water" into their bodies.

and .....I used to sit there and watch them eat salads at the restaurant.....washed with tap water !

Been sick with Montezuma`s Revenge once. I will not go into details of that night in Hell .....down past Pueritcitos

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Kalypso - 10-25-2011 at 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Curt63
On Friday night, my buddy and I danced with Montezumas wife all night long, but no vomiting.

By morning we were done with it.

She showed up about 10:30 pm. 4 hours after a dinner of ceviche and 15 hours after eating a carne asada torta

We suspect it was unrinsed cilantro that we put in the ceviche (made with mexican vegetables).

Torta or cilantro? Any thoughts?

My bet is on the torta. The incubation time is too short for the unrinsed cilantro.

Most food born bacteria take anywhere from 8 hours to 5 days to produce symptoms.

There are 2 notable exceptions, Staph and Vibiro. Staph actually produces toxins, and symptoms can begin in as little as an hour after eating contaminated food. With vibiro the onset happens in about 4 hours, but takes 1-2 days to clear the body. If vibiro was the culprit it would have been from the raw fish/seafood in your ceviche, not the cilantro.

E.Coli, salmonella and campylobactor are the 3 common causes of food borne illnesses, and if the infection isn't too bad, will clear the body relatively quickly. None of these will survive too long exposed to air, nor do they like salt or acid (think lime juice).

Don't any of you use Microdyne? All you gotta do is soak your fruits and veggies in it for 15 minutes and you're good to go. Available at most Mexican grocery stores. A few drops of regular old household bleach in a gallon of water will do the same thing.

mcfez - 10-25-2011 at 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by Kalypso

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Iodine solution will do the same. Used on organic farms.

BajaBlanca - 10-25-2011 at 01:33 PM

boy...we eat everything in Baja going both up and down the coast various time all year long and have never gotten the revenge here..The mainland got us both last may when we went - I hazard to venture that perhaps one slowly builds up an immunity ? and that is why we have never gotten it in Baja ???

Oso - 10-25-2011 at 03:58 PM

The worst Toltec Two-Step I've ever had was from a Big Mac in McAllen, TX First "gringo food" NOB after 3 yrs of Mexico City street tacos with no ill effect. Go figure.

Kalypso - 10-25-2011 at 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaBlanca
boy...we eat everything in Baja going both up and down the coast various time all year long and have never gotten the revenge here..The mainland got us both last may when we went - I hazard to venture that perhaps one slowly builds up an immunity ? and that is why we have never gotten it in Baja ???

BB, thanks for jogging my memory. Yes, to the fact that your system has acclimated to the germs in your local environment and if you travel up and down the state you've probably collected a pretty good variety of them

I travel very frequently on the mainland and rarely have problems. There are a few things that I've found useful as a preventative:
1) Yogurt with live bacteria. A lot of the yogurt in Mexico does not contain live culture, but I think Altapura does.
2) Yakult, it works. Tastes a bit like lemon yogurt. You can unleash billions of live bacteria into your gut all at once. In fact, the more the better. When first introduced to Mexico it dropped the rate of diarreha and other intestingal related problems by about 70%.
3) Probiotics. I found one earlier this year that doesn't need to be refrigerated so I can take them with me. These things are like gold. No intestinal problems whatsoever on teh last 2 trips.

This is not a case where more is better. Do not take all 3 together or you'll end up with the problem you're trying to avoid

. Too much Yakult or probiotic tends to act as a laxative.

You can eat for prevention too.

[Edited on 10-25-2011 by Kalypso]

krafty - 10-25-2011 at 05:25 PM

I think it has to do with cut tomatoes that sit around - 2x in 2 years and both times tomatoes were involved.

Got Sick in San Diego Last November

Gypsy Jan - 10-25-2011 at 05:53 PM

When I visited a friend in the hospital.

I had never had the flu before. I had a nasty cough for six months.

Ten years in Rosarito, Baja, no Montezuma's revenge.

I drink tap water at home and "agua natural" at restaurants (I do not like being pressed to buy bottled water).

motoged - 10-25-2011 at 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmoPescar
[ NUTMEG is an old time cure....

Nutmeg has traditionally also been considered a jailhouse intoxicant...

Nutmeg:

Nutmeg contains myristicin and elemicin which were both considered psychoactive chemicals. In 2009, elemicin was found not to be psychoactive. Myristicin, along with being psychoactive, is also a weak Monoamine oxidase inhibitor.[1]

mcfez - 10-25-2011 at 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by motoged

Quote:

Originally posted by AmoPescar
[ NUTMEG is an old time cure....

Now we understand AmoPescar behavior :lol:

Moctezuma's revenge

C-Urchin - 10-25-2011 at 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rocmoc
Not fun. I got the Revenge so bad last March on the mainland I had to go to the local clinic for 2 IVs & meds. After 3 days I was getting worst. By the afternoon of the clinic visit, I was feeling better. Was well in time for a Mexican Wedding we had been invited to & had a great time. My emergency visit to the clinic, one of our local friends got me in the back door before ithe clinic opened, cost 190 pesos which included 2 IVs, 6 meds & 2 shots. My better 3/4s was starting to feel poorly and ask if she could get it from taking care of me. The Doc said yes and gave her a shot & half of the meds. We Donated an additional 110 pesos to the clinic for supplies as the clinic is not allow to charge extra because you are not a local. Several other people came in with the same problem while I was receiving the IVs but were not in as bad shape, they were younger. The Revenge can be sirius for the more mature individual.

rocmoc n AZ/Baja

I always have Cipro in my kit. At the first signs of trouble take it twice a day for 3 days. At the first pill the buggies go away. Simi sells it to you if you go and talk to the "on call" doctor who charges 35 pesos. I never go anywhere without it. Works well on bladder infections too.

Skipjack Joe - 10-25-2011 at 08:57 PM

I carry antibiotics as well - Bactrium. Last summer I came down with something and Treda just wasn't strong enough. The doc at GN prescribed Bactrium and in 2 days life started to feel good again. Lost a fair amount of weight though.