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"Hondo"

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 12:45 PM

I just watched this old John Wayne western (1953) the other afternoon...and just now got to thinking about what Hondo means.

Do you know?

I do..

...but I ain't agonna tell ya jist yet, pard. :rolleyes:




[Edited on 8-28-2010 by Pompano]

windgrrl - 8-28-2010 at 12:48 PM

Masculine form of "Honda"? Nah...that's probably too easy...:rolleyes:

[Edited on 8-28-2010 by windgrrl]

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 12:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by windgrrl
Masculine form of "Honda"? Nah...that's probably too easy...:rolleyes:

[Edited on 8-28-2010 by windgrrl]


windgrrl!!


...that is wrong.

windgrrl - 8-28-2010 at 12:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Quote:
Originally posted by windgrrl
Masculine form of "Honda"? Nah...that's probably too easy...:rolleyes:

[Edited on 8-28-2010 by windgrrl]


windgrrl!!


...that is wrong.


Totally digging the poster!

shari - 8-28-2010 at 01:05 PM

Hondo means "deep"....hmmm...deep voice...throat??? ewww

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:06 PM

shari!!..



..that is wrong.

toneart - 8-28-2010 at 01:08 PM

A half breed; one who straddles The Rio Hondo?

I like "...a stranger to all but the surly dog at his side".

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:12 PM

Tony!!!!YOU ...

..are wrong.

toneart - 8-28-2010 at 01:14 PM

Well...you have to admit it was a pretty good guess.:rolleyes:

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:17 PM

If you say so, Tony. :rolleyes:

By the way, is Paco ever 'surly'?

toneart - 8-28-2010 at 01:18 PM

Shari's was a good guess too. Google translate says Hondo=deep.

Surely, Louis L'Amour didn't mean deep thrust?:o

toneart - 8-28-2010 at 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Pompano
If you say so, Tony. :rolleyes:

By the way, is Paco ever 'surly'?


No, but I trained him to show teeth at checkpoints.

Skipjack Joe - 8-28-2010 at 01:24 PM

Anything to do with a rope?

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:24 PM

None of these 'guesses' are even close to the actual meaning of 'hondo.'

toneart - 8-28-2010 at 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Anything to do with a rope?


Deep Rope?...That's not very macho. :no::lol:

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:26 PM

Igor...you are getting very warm...

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:28 PM

"I'm an olde cowhand...from the Rio Grande."

Drugstore Cowboy

Dave - 8-28-2010 at 01:33 PM

Bajahowodd - 8-28-2010 at 01:35 PM

How about an eyelet at the end of a lariat rope???

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by Dave


DAVE!!! ...



you are..incorrecto

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
How about an eyelet at the end of a lariat rope???


Bajahowodd's research has paid off!!..

...but only somebody who pays any attention at all to 'tripadvisor' would call a loop an 'eyelet' :rolleyes:

(you know I'm kidding you, right?)

Let's keep our cajones and call it a loop at the end of a lariat. The boys from Brokeback Mountain can call it an eyelet.

[Edited on 8-28-2010 by Pompano]

Bajahowodd - 8-28-2010 at 01:40 PM

AKA Honda!!

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:53 PM

fishabuctor..hondo was a term brought to the early west by Mexican vaqueros.

Cypress - 8-28-2010 at 01:54 PM

Two fingers?:O And the cow drops to the ground? Thumb and fore finger? Jeez!:lol:

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
...............My wife can grab a cow by the nose with 2 fingers and bring it to the ground.....


Your wife would like to meet my Aunt Alice..Big Al of the Sheyenne Vally...she can pick up a good-size heifer and put it on the right side of the fence...:yes:

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
My wife is only 120# too. I have to be careful with my P's and Q's. My nose is big enough to accept a finger or 2


Big Al's left leg is bigger than that. She stands straight at 6'2"

Skipjack Joe - 8-28-2010 at 02:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
Two fingers?:O And the cow drops to the ground? Thumb and fore finger? Jeez!:lol:


She got it from Mr. Spock.

BAJA.DESERT.RAT - 8-28-2010 at 02:06 PM

another japanese car ?

BIEN SALUD, DA RAT

toneart - 8-28-2010 at 02:06 PM

Roger-
Here is one definition of Lasso on Google. Had I put this up for your guess, I am pretty sure you would be wrong (let's face it, I am a sore loser):

The Lasso is a shrinkage and selection method for linear regression. It minimizes the usual sum of squared errors, with a bound on the sum of the absolute values of the coefficients. It has connections to soft-thresholding of wavelet coefficients, forward stagewise regression, and boosting methods.


:spingrin::lol::lol::P

Mulegena - 8-28-2010 at 02:13 PM

Indian Cowboy

"He's an Indian Cowboy in the rodeo,
and I'm just another little girl who loves him sooooooo!"
Buffy Saint-Marie

toneart - 8-28-2010 at 02:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mulegena
Indian Cowboy

"He's an Indian Cowboy in the rodeo,
and I'm just another little girl who loves him sooooooo!"
Buffy Saint-Marie


Hey! That was my guess.

Mulegena - 8-28-2010 at 02:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart...
The Lasso is a shrinkage and selection method for linear regression. It minimizes the usual sum of squared errors, with a bound on the sum of the absolute values of the coefficients. It has connections to soft-thresholding of wavelet coefficients, forward stagewise regression, and boosting methods.


:spingrin::lol::lol::P


Yah, Tony
I'm sure Auntie Al was thinkin' of jes' thiz ever' time she helped a bovine find its way!

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 02:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
Roger-
Here is one definition of Lasso on Google. Had I put this up for your guess, I am pretty sure you would be wrong (let's face it, I am a sore loser):

The Lasso is a shrinkage and selection method for linear regression. It minimizes the usual sum of squared errors, with a bound on the sum of the absolute values of the coefficients. It has connections to soft-thresholding of wavelet coefficients, forward stagewise regression, and boosting methods.


:spingrin::lol::lol::P


Tony..the key word here is HONDO..not Lasso..sigh. Too much red does that, y'know?

Mulegena - 8-28-2010 at 02:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
Quote:
Originally posted by Mulegena
Indian Cowboy

"He's an Indian Cowboy in the rodeo,
and I'm just another little girl who loves him sooooooo!"
Buffy Saint-Marie


Hey! That was my guess.

But did you imagine Buffy in the newly-digitalized 3-D release? Hah!Hah!Didya?Didya?

Pompano - 8-28-2010 at 02:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mulegena
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart...
The Lasso is a shrinkage and selection method for linear regression. It minimizes the usual sum of squared errors, with a bound on the sum of the absolute values of the coefficients. It has connections to soft-thresholding of wavelet coefficients, forward stagewise regression, and boosting methods.


:spingrin::lol::lol::P


Yah, Tony
I'm sure Auntie Al was thinkin' of jes' thiz ever' time she helped a bovine find its way!


I would hesitate to get Big Al's ornery up....she rides 27/7 and can be in your neighborhood soon.

b1 - 8-29-2010 at 07:23 AM

Pompano, I have some team roping in my background so your question and some of the responses got me to looking and digging.

I have two older books, one is titled "Leather Braiding" by Bruce Grant (1961) which provides "Honda- the eye in a lariat through which a braided leather rope or reata is rove."

The second book is titled "How to make Cowboy Horse Gear" by Bruce Grant (1953) which provides "Honda - Eye on the working end of a lariat, or reata, through which the rope passes to form a loop or noose." A reata is a rope made of braided rawhide. In this book the author describes how to make a San Juan Honda which was developed in Sonora, Mexico.

With all that said, I agree with you. I have never heard that part of a lariat referred to as a honda, always a hondo. Here in southern Idaho, some ropers pronounce it [hahn-due] and others pronounce it [hahn-doe]. I think that difference is more of a Coors vs. Budweiser deal. Fun post, thanks, b1

Pompano - 8-29-2010 at 07:57 AM

b1..you are right, of course. A hondo is the small eye part of the lariat..through which the tag end is passed to form the LOOP. Up North our ranchhands (cowboys) call them HON-dohs. Guess all locales are a mite different in pronunciation.

fishabuctor... Lots of old horse hair lariats, whips, hat bands, and crops around these parts..mostly keepsakes.

...I have a nice bracelet made from 'moose' hair.

Pompano - 8-29-2010 at 08:16 AM

This is a favorite horse hair hat band.



b1 - 8-29-2010 at 08:36 AM

fishabductor, the two books only describe working with rawhide. According to the 1953 book, the Mexican vaquero who also braided leather was called a trenzador. This book has lots of Spanish words in it.

Nice hatband Pompano. There is a lot of "romance" to this type of art work. In fact the first chapter of the 1953 book is titled "The Romance of Rawhide." I applaude your creative way of showing off your braided horsehair hatband. I have some braided horsehair stampede strings for one of my hats; long enough to "tie something up". Beautiful stuff. b1

Mexitron - 8-29-2010 at 09:44 AM

Only definition I know of is same as shari's except in landscaping we use it like "Que tonto de hondo?"

DENNIS - 8-29-2010 at 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano
shari!!..



..that is wrong.


She's wrong ?????

DENNIS - 8-29-2010 at 09:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
This is a favorite horse hair hat band.






Watch your hands there, big boy. :lol:


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Tano - 8-29-2010 at 10:09 AM

"Que tonto de hondo?"


You mean the idiot from Hondo, Texas, or the Lone Ranger’s sidekick who came from there?

¿Qué tanto de hondo?

Horse Race today in Mulege

Mulegena - 8-29-2010 at 10:12 AM

Ya' all drive your Honda down here and whip your hondo around this evening 7 pm in the soccer field Colonia El Rebaje!!

I'll be looking for all you John Wayne-types.