BajaNomad - Draft video of our Rosarito Beach land concession struggle... UPDATE! Full Video PICKED UP BY AFN ON 9/1 :)

Draft video of our Rosarito Beach land concession struggle... UPDATE! Full Video PICKED UP BY AFN ON 9/1 :)

Woooosh - 8-28-2010 at 03:18 PM

UPDATE: Great news! AFN has picked up the FULL 11 minute version on their website today! WooHoo! http://www.afntijuana.info/afn/

Here are the new links for those just getting on board this issue:

Spanish Full Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRflD9USro

Spanish Short Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZui7JxeA8U

English Short Version (the draft- yea yea, I'll get to doing the two english version over): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzPwvHLE6Wo

We have sent the video to all news agencies, all PROFEPA offices and all relevant Rosarito Beach office.

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I put together a three minute YouTube video about our struggle to gain control over the beach we have the FMZ concesion for.

The angle I am using is : Rosarito Beach is no longer walkable because beach erosion and illegal buildings have split it in half. It goes on about how the buildings endanger the neighborhood and prevent a seawall from being built.

I remember an ex-pat survey a few months back said taking strolls on the beach is a favorite activity- so that's the angle I used. Have to have an angle the press would like- not just a land struggle with a violent squatter or a fist fight over preserving disabled parking...

Let me know what you think before we do the Spanish version. This one is the quick draft- just want to see if it makes sense to anyone. We're open to suggestions...

Link to Draft video. Three minutes, English subtitles, English narration:
(Deleted 8/30- See last post)

Link to PRIVATE FULL VERSION (See explanation a few posts down). English subtitles, no narration- just music:
(Deleted 8/30- See last post)

[Edited to add a link to the private full video]
[Edited 8/30 to delete draft video links]

[Edited on 8-31-2010 by Woooosh]

[Edited on 9-1-2010 by Woooosh]

Iflyfish - 8-28-2010 at 03:54 PM

I think it is a good video, clear. I like the simple language and the images that demonstrate what you are saying. I think that the words add emphasis and are not a distraction but clarify for those who read or are hearing impaired.

This film is informative and clear, I was aware in vague terms of the issue, but this makes it very clear.

My only suggestion would be that you tell us, your audience, what we are to do. You only ask for vague support of this cause. If you can capture interest to watch the entire video, that is also the time to get a "buy in" from your audience. If you don't hook them then, they will be off to the next link on Utube, especially if it have women in bathing suits.

Iflyfish

Woooosh - 8-28-2010 at 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
Good video...i had the volume off as my infant son is sleeping, and found the red text, while informative, distracting from the video footage. Are the Squaters actually selling the houses.

Not sure what to do about the text boxes. Lot's of people don't turn their speakers on. Maybe it's the red or the text box layout.

Yes, the squatters advertised the property for sale for $199K. The tower is empty, but has been finished two years. We hear they don't have individual condo papers to sell them. It's a three-tower project and the worry is the squatter is selling to the condo developer (same sized building footprint too).

I know there will be questions about the details I couldn't cover in this three minute chopped-down version. I did make a ten minute video that covers pretty much everything. The problem is it is too long to get public attention and it'll get me killed. It makes the Rosarito Police and PGJE look unprofessional and incompetent and they wouldn't like that.

I have kept the link to that video "private" by invitation only. I don't mind if you guys watch it for the purpose of helping me craft the final video. No narration on it, just salsa music and more red text boxes. It is ten minutes long- so grab a beverage and thanks for taking the time to watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXiedDI3JI

Santiago - 8-28-2010 at 04:12 PM

Thanks for posting this Woooooosh - I was wondering how this was coming along. Good luck.

Woooosh - 8-28-2010 at 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
was there narration in the 1st posted one? I started the video with the speakers on, but the volume was up so I quickly pushed mute to avoid waking up the little one who is still sleeping in my lap.

Yes, but the narration just reads what is in the text boxes. The Spanish version will have the narration and the boxes too. Thanks for watching.

monoloco - 8-28-2010 at 04:52 PM

Woosh, it looks to me like the ocean will take care of a lot of the problem eventually. I can't believe that someone would be dumb enough to buy any of those federal zone projects.

Woooosh - 8-28-2010 at 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by monoloco
Woosh, it looks to me like the ocean will take care of a lot of the problem eventually. I can't believe that someone would be dumb enough to buy any of those federal zone projects.

Problem is the neighborhood behind it will go first I think- or I'd be content to wait them out. Looks like the street will go first. Thanks.

elgatoloco - 8-28-2010 at 06:37 PM

Wow. The videos seem to fully explain the situation clearly enough. You won me over. Too bad I am not in charge.

Props to the concession holder on the smackdown but it appears that Tila has the cops in her pocket? I would be concerned for safety of family and property based on the folks she hangs with. After all she is protecting her 199K. I agree that the ten minute version may not be good for one's health. Too bad you cant send a coipy to her employer but then she might get fired and be across the street full time?

Noble battle the concession holder is fighting but to what end if no one in government wants to lift a hand to help?

Are any of Hugos holdings in the federal zone? Maybe he doesnt want to 'shine a light'?

Best of luck to the concession holder and be very very careful.

Woooosh - 8-28-2010 at 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by elgatoloco
Wow. The videos seem to fully explain the situation clearly enough. You won me over. Too bad I am not in charge.

Props to the concession holder on the smackdown but it appears that Tila has the cops in her pocket? I would be concerned for safety of family and property based on the folks she hangs with. After all she is protecting her 199K. I agree that the ten minute version may not be good for one's health. Too bad you cant send a coipy to her employer but then she might get fired and be across the street full time?

Noble battle the concession holder is fighting but to what end if no one in government wants to lift a hand to help?

Are any of Hugos holdings in the federal zone? Maybe he doesnt want to 'shine a light'?

Best of luck to the concession holder and be very very careful.

"...but to what end if no one in government wants to lift a hand to help?"

Exactly where we are at with this. Once the final video is out in Spanish maybe someone local with influence will see it or pass it on. It's all we can hope for at this point. You're right- ticking off the PGJE and Police won't get land cleared or a seawall built.

monoloco - 8-28-2010 at 07:15 PM

I'm really surprised that PROFEPA isn't bleeding them, it seems like a blatant encroachment of the federal zone would be a sweet harvest. Good video, by the way. I hope you can get it done without hiring a lawyer, their only objective is to drag it out forever, which is easy to do.

my two cents worth

mcfez - 8-28-2010 at 07:35 PM

Positive: Done good. Clarity of the issues was made. Subtitle was a smart idea.

Negative: Help you how, where? Still don't have a clue. You need to make that crystal clear. Got a Website to follow up for info? Facebook? Link it all up Dude!

Woooosh - 8-28-2010 at 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Positive: Done good. Clarity of the issues was made. Subtitle was a smart idea.

Negative: Help you how, where? Still don't have a clue. You need to make that crystal clear. Got a Website to follow up for info? Facebook? Link it all up Dude!

I really don't know what help I need or who to get it from or I would ask for it. That's why I put this draft video up first- so I hope someone has some ideas. The short version in Spanish will have a good hook seeking specific action as soon as I figure out what that is.

Even if "land deals" have been made, the video gives local and federal agencies a reason to re-think their decisions. I would think there is some "public safety" emergency clause that lets the Mexican federal government build the seawall to protect the hundreds of houses behind that street. The "Private" long version has the original "Lotification Map" from 1975. You can pause the video to check it out closer.

We will get the Spanish version over to some Baja Facebook groups when it is done. Thanks for the help.

flyfishinPam - 8-29-2010 at 06:56 AM

just watched the first video and I think it is good and explains the situation well.

welcome to activism you're passionate about something that is important and you have to communicate it to everyone you can reach. you have to do what you can to get your message out which will hopefully lead to justice served through the avenue of public pressure. this will help to unite the citizens, maybe form a civic association so you can better organize and network. (if you haven't done so already)

i find videos are a good way for me to express myself in spanish where I cannot do such a good job in writing

for example here's a video I did on the dump in Loreto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDl0YfWOqF8

i didn't understand the problem you had been describing for so long now I do after seeing your 3 min video. It is hard to believe that a high rise went up so close to the pacific ocean that waves break on it. I agree that the ocean will take care of this eyesore eventually. hopefully before they decide to build another tower on the runoff channel something can be done to stop it.

I will contact the Tijuana Coastkeeper to see if she knows any leads that can hep you. She is fantastic and has excellent contacts. I will send a u2u early in the week to you on this.

stay strong

Woooosh - 8-29-2010 at 08:30 AM

Thanks for that post Pam. I really didn't want to be an "activist"- but sometimes our battles are chosen for us. I'm finding that YouTube videos get watched in Mexico because people believe and understand what they can see with their own eyes. We exhausted all the normal channels we knew of- so thanks for helping spread the word. We hear the squatter is trying to get a judge to overturn the concession- but she doesn't have any ownership paperwork to make that happen- unless dollar bills are the kind of papers that work. It's crazy this battle is for land totally surrounded by water- isn't it? Luckily I do video once in a while so I had the history of the concession on film. (The longer video shows the ugly side of this battle with the police and PGJE giving the squatters support and the condo people being more active in taking the concession over for their profit.)

This has been like a slow-motion train wreck but it has brought the neighbors closer together and that is always good. It really took people a few yeas to digest we were doing this for the people and had no profit motive. Hopefully the Spanish version of the video will be seen by someone who can help. You are welcome to share the links with anyone who can get this done. Thanks again Pam. Really.

DENNIS - 8-29-2010 at 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by elgatoloco

Props to the concession holder on the smackdown

I think that should read, "Props to Woooosh on the smackdown." He's just being modest, but he's already claimed the physical victory in another place.

Good on ya, Woooosh.

About the music......maybe something a bit more somber. The Cuban beat makes me want to say Hell with it all and start dancing.
Downbeat story with upbeat music is a bad combination.

Good video, at any rate.

k-rico - 8-29-2010 at 11:20 AM

I like the 3 minute version. If you want the "private" version to stay private, take it off of youtube. Afterall, you just put a link to it on a public website and youtube videos are easily saved to disk. The free software I have automatically makes copies of all videos I watch.

Woooosh - 8-29-2010 at 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by elgatoloco

Props to the concession holder on the smackdown

Every time I put good music to a YouTube video- they say it is copyright protected (it likely is). The canned stuff has limited options- but I'll work on that.

(and for the record... I had not been in a fight since hockey in college. Didn't have much choice as both times the squatter guy threw the first punch (or his lame flying kick attempt). My American family is mortified and my Mexican family couldn't be more proud. My nephews said I should have kneed him in the face while I had the handful of hair- but pounding his face into the gravel by his hair just came naturally. No one likes getting their butt kicked in public by a senior citizen on a Sunday afternoon. lol)

What are the odds?

k-rico - 8-29-2010 at 11:44 AM

That something good will result from woooosh's efforts?

That nothing will happen?

That something bad will happen?

Woooosh - 8-29-2010 at 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
I like the 3 minute version. If you want the "private" version to stay private, take it off of youtube. Afterall, you just put a link to it on a public website and youtube videos are easily saved to disk. The free software I have automatically makes copies of all videos I watch.

Thanks Rico. It's hard to ask for feedback on the content and keep the long version totally private at the same time. The long video has the gory details and the documents. Maybe someone at PGJE will see the case number on it and take a second look, or maybe someone higher in PROFEPA in Mexico City will see the concession numbers and do more research. It's a tough call to keep it quiet or ask for nomads to help- but since they have already threatened to kill me it does little good to keep quiet. I'm def a stubborn CT Yankee.

Woooosh - 8-29-2010 at 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
That something good will result from woooosh's efforts?

That nothing will happen?

That something bad will happen?

Start a poll...

All I know is if I continue to do nothing but whine in my posts every few months about this, nothing would ever happen. You always miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Hopefully this discussion will help me pick the best path to move forward. Thanks Rico.

k-rico - 8-29-2010 at 11:51 AM

They threatened to kill you? Nice of them to take time to threaten you. Unusal in these parts.

I would lie low if I were you. You know what side the authorities are on.

Woooosh - 8-29-2010 at 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
They threatened to kill you? Nice of them to take time to threaten you. Unusal in these parts.

I would lie low if I were you. You know what side the authorities are on.

Yeah- it's totally unlike this passive-aggressive culture to do that, but the squatters friend is white trash american and you know how easily threatening words come out of their mouths. I'm not sure where the police authorities are today on this- the police commander was peeed off when he saw the video of the cops hugging her and promised they would be neutral in the future. And yes, I invited the commander into the house to watch it and the squatters all saw the police cars out front and the officers coming into the house. They had lied to the police about who started the fight and now the police say "they know what she is". They did not know she has another house around the corner. Maybe it's a turning point, but I'm not optimistic.

k-rico - 8-29-2010 at 12:05 PM

Well, I suppose, but of course the authorities are going to say you're right to your face. Everybody you speak with is going to say what you want to hear.

The builder obviously has relatively big money behind him. Where does big money come from around here? Most of it anyway.

DENNIS - 8-29-2010 at 12:10 PM

Law enforcement doesn't seem to exist down here. Seems like all the authorities do is mop up the blood before finding someone involved to put the squeeze on.

k-rico - 8-29-2010 at 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Law enforcement doesn't seem to exist down here. Seems like all the authorities do is mop up the blood before finding someone involved to put the squeeze on.

True, but on the otherhand I was on the beach the other day with my two dogs running free, a beer, and smoking a cigarette. In San Diego I would have racked up probably $500 in fines.

It goes both ways.

DENNIS - 8-29-2010 at 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by k-rico
True, but on the otherhand I was on the beach the other day with my two dogs running free, a beer, and smoking a cigarette. In San Diego I would have racked up probably $500 in fines.

Wha????? Just 'cause there's a law in place doesn't mean you have to break it. :light:

Woooosh - 8-29-2010 at 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by k-rico
Well, I suppose, but of course the authorities are going to say you're right to your face. Everybody you speak with is going to say what you want to hear.

The builder obviously has relatively big money behind him. Where does big money come from around here? Most of it anyway.

I can't find the money source. I though it was in the USA. Finance North America was the only one marketing on the internet- now they claim to know nothing about it. A nomad chased down the owners of the phone number for sales: Aries Management- a US Corporation owned by a Mexican couple in Escondido. They have a twin Mexican corporation- Grupo Aries that has building lots for sale in Rosarito. This may or may not be the same people as the new Punta Azul project- I've been getting mixed info. I shook Finance North Americas tree a little already and they took the project off their site.

They work every day on that tower- cleaning the windows, painting, caulking, etc. They built it cheap and fast on top of the old foundation. In the photo you can see they poured the concrete floors using corrugated roof panels propped up from below by two by fours, steel stud and plain drywall. Construction that isn't very ocean water hardy or wave friendly. It's pretty, but that stucco and glass won't fool the ocean.

I'm surprised Rosarito is willing to give up the north half of the beach actually. What is Rosarito Beach without the Beach?

[Edited on 8-29-2010 by Woooosh]

desertcpl - 8-29-2010 at 02:36 PM

I liked the video,, well done

really is a shame whats going on

BajaBlanca - 8-29-2010 at 06:24 PM

wow ... what a nightmare .... where to start ? IMHO I think the first short version does not pack the punch you want it to, but I can't quite put my finger on what to change .... really, I wd show the video to someone in marketing/advertising - they have the gift of gab and make mega bucks for a good reason. the medium is the message. This is so important, so, so important that you need the best possible impact. Do you know anyone in the movie business ? Any BajaNomaders out there who can help ??

and once the video is to your liking, why not send it onto PROFEPA directly ?

maybe get all the neighbors to sign a petition to return 100% of the beach to the PEOPLE and send to governor, delegado, diputado, senador ie everyone you can think of in power. I did this and we got one thing we wanted out of the probably 5 petitions I had almost every individual in La Bocana sign ...

elections are coming up - call a politician and see if he/she doesn't want to campaign using this as part of their platform. they are hunting for reasons to get voters on their side.

why not call the local TV station and ask them to support the cause by at least doing a blurb about the problem ?

maybe write or call Antonio Banderas or Salma Hayak or ????? and explain the problem ??? Maybe they can call a director and a movie can be made.

Best of luck. Hope I have given some ideas, that is my intention :light:

Woooosh - 8-29-2010 at 08:22 PM

Thaks Blanca. You put a lot of thought into that and I appreciate it.

I'm working on the punch part. The obvious attention grabber would be to point out the police favoritism and PGJE corruption like the long version. That gets attention- but gets me killed and doesn't move a building or build a seawall.

I was hoping the beach not being walkable would be an "eyebrow raiser." Maybe I need more beach walking footage or something. A beach stroll was the #1 activity for 60% of US retirees in Mexico.

elgatoloco - 8-29-2010 at 08:28 PM

Whoosh. I wish you the best of luck!

BajaBlanca - 8-29-2010 at 08:41 PM

Woosh - I wish you a lot of luck on this .... and for sure stay away from the whole police and corruption bit ... but you have a problem and it must be resolved or yeah ... no beach, or a tiny one, and illegal bldg put up to boot

now, what you just said might be a good line: something like: What is Rosarito without a beach ? Take the beach out of Rosarito and what do you have ? Appeal to the obvious but be creative and witty. and somehow ask what viewers think should be done and then create a facebook page where they voice these opinions ???

Woooosh - 8-29-2010 at 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
Woosh - I wish you a lot of luck on this .... and for sure stay away from the whole police and corruption bit ... but you have a problem and it must be resolved or yeah ... no beach, or a tiny one, and illegal bldg put up to boot

now, what you just said might be a good line: something like: What is Rosarito without a beach ? Take the beach out of Rosarito and what do you have ? Appeal to the obvious but be creative and witty. and somehow ask what viewers think should be done and then create a facebook page where they voice these opinions ???

"¡Yo quiero Malecón!" I want my boardwalk! Playas de Tijuana went through this and just put in a full length boardwalk. They held a concert there today. Hard to imagine the TJ beach needs a recreational boardwalk more than a tourist destination like Rosarito does.

k-rico - 8-30-2010 at 07:07 AM

The redevelopment of the playas de tijuana beach front is only partially complete. It has been going on for several years. In addition to the boardwalk they have built a substantial seawall. I watched it being built over the past 9 months. It goes very deep into the ground with about 20% above ground level.

New sewer lines have been put in place beneath the street that parallels the beach and a system to divert storm runoff has also been built.

New beachfront apartments and restaurants are being built and the city is negotiating with the owners of the more dilapidated buildings to repair them. Long term cheap loans are available.

And, as many of you know the asphalt highway leading into playas has been replaced with a widened concrete highway. The main streets in playas have also been resurfaced.

Baseball diamonds and soccer fields have also been built in the past few years and there are plans to create additional parks for the residents.

Continual and substantial improvements since I moved here 4 years ago. And it's not to attrack tourists, it's for the citizens of the city. I recently heard TJ is the 2nd biggest city on the west coast, population wise, after LA. Hard to believe. I've also read that it is the fastest growing major city in Mexico.

[Edited on 8-30-2010 by k-rico]

Woooosh - 8-30-2010 at 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
The redevelopment of the playas de tijuana beach front is only partially complete. It has been going on for several years. In addition to the boardwalk they have built a substantial seawall. I watched it being built over the past 9 months. It goes very deep into the ground with about 20% above ground level.

New sewer lines have been put in place beneath the street that parallels the beach and a system to divert storm runoff has also been built.

New beachfront apartments and restaurants are being built and the city is negotiating with the owners of the more dilapidated buildings to repair them. Long term cheap loans are available.

And, as many of you know the asphalt highway leading into playas has been replaced with a widened concrete highway. The main streets in playas have also been resurfaced.

Baseball diamonds and soccer fields have also been built in the past few years and there are plans to create additional parks for the residents.

Continual and substantial improvements since I moved here 4 years ago. And it's not to attrack tourists, it's for the citizens of the city. I recently heard TJ is the 2nd biggest city on the west coast, population wise, after LA. Hard to believe. I've also read that it is the fastest growing major city in Mexico.

[Edited on 8-30-2010 by k-rico]

It really is nice what TJ is doing there. They took the old threads of poor urban planning and infrastructure neglect and wove them all into a comprehensive, long-term solution that benefits everyone, including the environment.

I hope this inspires Rosarito into doing something similar.

Thanks Rico.

Woooosh - 8-30-2010 at 11:48 PM

Thanks for the feedback everyone! Over 125 views of the short video and nearly 50 of the full version. Great feedback and we made some changes. The new video title is...
¿Qué es Playas de Rosarito, sin la playa? (What's Rosarito Beach without the beach?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZui7JxeA8U

The full Spanish version will be up on Wednesday. That one has the documents up close, more details and the full "woooosh smackdown" footage. We cut the police shenanigans out and only mention that PGJE has not act "as of yet"- not done nothing. (Many U2U's on those points)

We started a Facebook group using the title of the video and begin adding content to it this week. Little by little...

ELINVESTIG8R - 8-31-2010 at 05:52 AM

Great Video which explains the problem succinctly. I'm surprised the attackers of the victim at the handicapped access area and the skinhead and his backup partner who subsequently threatened the victim and family weren't found thrown over a bridge like hanging piñatas which I'm sure they deserved. The video also shows why Mexico is in such deep trouble. CORRUPT POLICE.

PS: If this Ortiz gal lives in Sun City and if she is a U.S. Citizen why not sue her in Federal Court for violating someone's civil rights... Is that a possibility...Just saying!

Woooosh - 8-31-2010 at 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Great Video which explains the problem succinctly. I'm surprised the attackers of the victim at the handicapped access area and the skinhead and his backup partner who subsequently threatened the victim and family weren't found thrown over a bridge like hanging piñatas which I'm sure they deserved. The video also shows why Mexico is in such deep trouble. CORRUPT POLICE.

PS: If this Ortiz gal lives in Sun City and if she is a U.S. Citizen why not sue her in Federal Court for violating someone's civil rights... Is that a possibility...Just saying!

Well- the short video is up- but the full version has the violence and corruption. We have used great restraint in dealing with these violent people (besides defending ourselves when physically attacked).

You are correct that we could make her life miserable stateside. She works for the State of California in the department of Education department and also works with foster children programs. She also lives full time is too many places apparently. She claims the Rosarito squatter house as her 100% residence (with another house around the corner she makes believe isn't hers). I'm sure the state of CA thinks she lives and works there full time.

We'll let the first video percolate around her a few days and see what bubbles up. Then we will release the second full video and hand deliver them to the PGJE and PROFEPA (the secretary at the TJ PROFEPA office knows me by first name already).

You are a very capable detective and would be a valuable compadre and asset if we take that route. I'm more interested in the result that the process. We did find in 2006 she filed a lawsuit against the neighborhood fracciamineto- but she must have lost and turned to squatting (we are getting the court records to have them translated). You can poke around her background... her full name is Otila Ortiz Maldonado. She has a house on a lake in Sun City, CA and works for the EASTSIDE UNION SCHOOL DISTRICT in Lancaster. She is associated with the Foster Youth Liaison and her work e-mail is tortiz@eastside.k12.ca.us

knuckles - 8-31-2010 at 09:59 AM

Wooosh:

I applaud you efforts to keep this fight clean, clear and above all not self serving, but for all.

But when in the trenches as you are, you may have to take this battle to their level. Don't you have some "family friends" or connections?

If you can't follow the money, that's your first clue as to what you are dealing with.

Watch your back and be careful. And call in a few favors yourself.

Woooosh - 8-31-2010 at 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by knuckles
Wooosh:

I applaud you efforts to keep this fight clean, clear and above all not self serving, but for all.

But when in the trenches as you are, you may have to take this battle to their level. Don't you have some "family friends" or connections?

If you can't follow the money, that's your first clue as to what you are dealing with.

Watch your back and be careful. And call in a few favors yourself.

No worries. For five years I stupidly and naively thought taking the high road would get results and would be respected here. We are now playing by Mexican rules. It's liberating actually. Thanks.

k-rico - 8-31-2010 at 10:10 AM

Wooosh, I was just reading about the 1982-1983 El Nino (strongest one in 100 years) and it's impact on Rosarito Beach. It did significant damage, major erosion, and I know it trashed Playas de Tijuana. I've heard what's beachfront now in TJ was the second row of buildings then, don't know if that's true tho. Anyway, if that happens again that new tower will be severely damaged if not completely undermined.

You mentioned it's on an old foundation. How old and what was there before?

This is about the 1997-98 and 1982-83 El Ninos.

http://redalyc.uaemex.mx/pdf/568/56842313.pdf

knuckles - 8-31-2010 at 10:22 AM

I stayed up all night for the last El Nino (96?). That building would take a hit for sure. Just never know how long you would have to wait. We have had unusually high tides this year. It is probably already has a bit of damage. I wonder why it remains unoccupied? Other than the obivous reasons. Duh!

I think a lot of nomads have learned that the mexican rules will always prevail here.

Woooosh - 8-31-2010 at 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
Wooosh, I was just reading about the 1982-1983 El Nino (strongest one in 100 years) and it's impact on Rosarito Beach. It did significant damage, major erosion, and I know it trashed Playas de Tijuana. I've heard what's beachfront now in TJ was the second row of buildings then, don't know if that's true tho. Anyway, if that happens again that new tower will be severely damaged if not completely undermined.

You mentioned it's on an old foundation. How old and what was there before?

This is about the 1997-98 and 1982-83 El Ninos.

http://redalyc.uaemex.mx/pdf/568/56842313.pdf

you are correct Rico. The 97-98 storms took away the first row of lots in our Fracciamento. These lots are the current problem. The condo was built on two residential foundations. The long version of the video had the lotification maps... the ocean always wins. I'll post the Spanish version of that video again when it is done (YouTube user is bajalabs to search of videos).

If they had built the tower out of block- it would be good for it to fall over. But they used steel studs and regular drywall- just more beach trash when it goes. But the neighborhood behind it will go first- the street is going already.

thanks.

knuckles - 8-31-2010 at 11:26 AM

Thanks K-rico, seems like yesterday. Dry reading, but those engineers can work those numbers and spreadsheets like nobody else!

Woooosh - 9-1-2010 at 12:38 PM

Great news! AFN has picked up the FULL 11 minute version on their website today! WooHoo! http://www.afntijuana.info/afn/

Here are the new links for those just getting on board this issue:

Spanish Full Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRflD9USro

Spanish Short Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZui7JxeA8U

English Short Version (the draft- yea yea, I'll get to doing the two english version over): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzPwvHLE6Wo

We have sent the video to all news agencies, all PROFEPA offices and all relevant Rosarito Beach office.

elgatoloco - 9-1-2010 at 01:12 PM

Good.

Woooosh - 9-1-2010 at 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by elgatoloco
Good.

They didn't bite on the sanitized short version. AFN likes a little controversy I guess- went with the violence, PGJE and police corruption and the long version. We took the clip of the policeman hugging the squatter out of the video- everything else stayed. I'd like my cremains interred in the fountain of the Rosarito house where those of my parents and dogs are please...

[Edited on 9-1-2010 by Woooosh]

knuckles - 9-1-2010 at 04:34 PM

Now the caca will hit the fan for sure. Nice job, keep us posted.

BajaBlanca - 9-2-2010 at 01:22 PM

:bounce:

Woooosh - 9-3-2010 at 09:57 AM

800 views and climbing! Today I am recharged! A nomad had told me the lady I am having problems with filed a court action in 2006 against the neighborhood. To find out what this was about I had to go to a secluded place where I guess the judges hang out- the Jusgados. It is a newer cement and glass building perched up on a hill across from the Sharp factory in Rosarito. Talk about a secure location not wanting to be bothered by anyone.

Anyway a lady there looked up the case and came out to talk with me. She said the case involved some gangsters, not the land. She said if I knew their name of the cholos she could give me the information. I told her I wasn't interested in seeing the report if it wasn't related to the land issue and I thanked her and started to leave. She could see I was frustrated I guess because she stopped me she stopped me from leaving , and brought me to her office in the back where we talked in detail about my problem. She told me my case never made it up the hill to the judges. She made me a deal. She would watch the video at home and asked me to go back to the PGJE in Rosarito to find out the exact status of the case. Then she asked me to come back to see her today and she would advise me what to do next. How cool is that lady? I told her all I really wanted was for the PGJE to talk to the Police Officer Tila Ortiz had asked to hire someone to hurt us. He's willing and ready to talk so I hope the video will re-open the case and they will talk with him. Little by little the struggle for justice continues...