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Bull Avoidance ?

bajadock - 9-27-2010 at 04:20 PM

A small herd of cattle, including 2 bulls, is now squatting on land adjacent to one of my regular hiking trails here on Punta Banda.

Any advice on walking near them? I've been a weenie about it past 2 weeks, but, really want to reclaim my hiking trails.

bajaguy - 9-27-2010 at 04:24 PM

Wear a red shirt and carry a sword........and run fast!!!!

DENNIS - 9-27-2010 at 04:27 PM

Put on some real tight pants with long pink socks and toe-dancing slippers. Show them Who's boss.

Ohh...yeah, bring a big gun. :O

durrelllrobert - 9-27-2010 at 04:32 PM

go back to riding your bike. it's much safer :
:lol::lol:

mulegemichael - 9-27-2010 at 04:36 PM

carry pepper spray...or wasp spray..both will reach out there quite aways and will turn the biggest bull around

toneart - 9-27-2010 at 04:44 PM

In Reading your title I thought you were suggesting we not log into BajaNomad. ;):lol:

mcfez - 9-27-2010 at 04:54 PM

Should you be approached by cattle do not run - you run they run faster.

If being followed try to make to a area where the cattle will find it hard to access.......rocky...cliff

No matter how cute the calves look do not ever approach them, big mum won't be far away.

Never get between a calf and its mother.

If ever unsure , take a wide detour around any bunch of cattle

Bulls....just avoid em at all cost!

Most animals here on our farm dont get bothered with a slow walking---quiet human.

Bug spray.....good idea if you want to blind the walking piece of steak.....and the rancher will be one unhappy camper.

Not sure why Dennis is making fun of real tight pants with long pink socks and toe-dancing slippers........thats how I show who's Boss at this farm!

desertcpl - 9-27-2010 at 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by mulegemichael
carry pepper spray...or wasp spray..both will reach out there quite aways and will turn the biggest bull around


yea right I am going to spray a bull with that ,, oh please stop

DENNIS - 9-27-2010 at 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Not sure why Dennis is making fun of real tight pants with long pink socks and toe-dancing slippers........thats how I show who's Boss at this farm!




Pictures please......one with you on your Harley will do just fine. :lol::lol:

Skipjack Joe - 9-27-2010 at 06:37 PM

Oh ..... that's what you meant.

I thought you were referring to B.S.

There's no avoiding that. :lol::lol:

vandy - 9-28-2010 at 01:18 AM

I would be really surprised if they didn't flee when you walk up to them, wave your hat/arms wildly and yell at them.
My favorite yell is "HYAHH! GITT!!"
Works like a charm. Be aggressive. I've only met one aggressive bull in my life in Baja, and he was somebody's pet

Skipjack Joe - 9-28-2010 at 02:55 AM

This also works:

"Serenity Now"

Cypress - 9-28-2010 at 04:57 AM

The bulls are usually harmless, ranchers don't like aggressive bulls, they are a danger to people, horses, etc.

Beachgirl - 9-28-2010 at 06:01 AM

Maybe they are like Ferdinand...just want to smell the flowers.

bajadock - 9-28-2010 at 06:32 AM

I'll try the pepper spray defense.

Thanks for the "usually harmless" diagnosis. Reminds me of the same attributed to most scorpions. I thought a bull's major job description was to be aggressive.

I have also avoided the bull of the local tavern, r.i.p. Visited once and never returned.

DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by bajadock
I'll try the pepper spray defense.




Doc.....don't be crazy. If you are close enough to that animal to use a spray, you've already gone too far. A mean bull will stomp you to mush and, who knows.....maybe they like pepper spray.

Try a couple of M-80s from a safe distance. That should run them off. Might eliminate all those fire-hazard weeds we all worry about as well. :lol:

bajaguy - 9-28-2010 at 08:09 AM

Doc..........being a somewhat expert on pepper spray, I agree with Dennis........

You would probably be better off banging on a large pot with a stick.....I think making noise is the best approach.

wessongroup - 9-28-2010 at 08:18 AM

Ditto's.... on the spray.. noise if you have not listened to mcfez in step one: "Bulls....just avoid em at all cost!"....

This ain't the PBR...

BooJumMan - 9-28-2010 at 08:21 AM

Once in Costa Rica I was walking through some grasslands/forest and approached a very large bull. It was very hot outside and I could tell it was a bull because he was dragging on the ground. :D Anyways the second he saw me and my friend he started charging us! My instinct told me to run, and I ran faster than I've ever ran, and we ended up crossing over a barb wire fence. I lost both my shoes in the escapade!

If that fence wasnt there I'd probably would have climbed a tree or something. I wouldn't know what to do otherwise. Seriously, I don't think there is much to do if a bull is charging you. I am all about NOT hurting animals in any way but it almost seems like the pepper spray might be worth it. Not spraying directly in the eyes or on the animal, but if he's coming to spray in the air, maybe it would be a deterrent?

mulegemichael - 9-28-2010 at 08:44 AM

i'm just sayin'....why not carry a can on your belt....i'm somewhat of a pepper spray expert also having carried it,(and used it) for over 20 years and i know it will drop just about everything and anything in it's tracks...pretty good insurance if yer out hiking in the brush, bull or no bull

windgrrl - 9-28-2010 at 09:00 AM

We often sail from a pasture with 10-20 big boys munching away. The only risk so far is getting zapped when opening and closing the gate to pass through the electrified fence. The owner always lets us know the bulls are there and, with a laugh, once said that if they bothered us at all they might come and squash our nice truck by pushing/rubbing against it. He drives an old F-250 with a big cow catcher on the front!

For the most part, they are docile and avoid us, but I always have an eye on them. Never know what might get in their heads and what direction they'll decide to go.

Lots of space and respect is a good idea for any unfamiliar being.

wait till your 8 ft away from him and spray

mcfez - 9-28-2010 at 09:01 AM

1200 hundred pounds of raw flesh running towards you at 15 MPH.....how you plan to spray this pepper spray into this raging bull? :O

Perhaps if you must...an Marine air horn that comes in a can....we use these for camping up in Bridgeport Ca, where it's bear country

[Edited on 9-28-2010 by mcfez]

For your eyes only Dennis

mcfez - 9-28-2010 at 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by mcfez
Not sure why Dennis is making fun of real tight pants with long pink socks and toe-dancing slippers........thats how I show who's Boss at this farm!




Pictures please......one with you on your Harley will do just fine. :lol::lol:


Sorry....this camera of mine is junk...so out of focus.

cheap.jpg - 13kB

sanquintinsince73 - 9-28-2010 at 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Don Jorge
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Originally posted by bajadock
my hiking trails.

Gringos, mine mine mine. What a bunch of bull.
Whose hiking trails now?:lol:

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

pacside - 9-28-2010 at 11:22 AM

Uh I'd think twice hiking where bulls are after watching this video...EEEEEk!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/39400602#39400602

In all fairness to the bull it does appear it was very agitated by all the drunken fools who climbed into the ring. :o:wow::rolleyes:

pacside

Bajatripper - 9-28-2010 at 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Should you be approached by cattle do not run - you run they run faster.

If being followed try to make to a area where the cattle will find it hard to access.......rocky...cliff



And what if that bull or cow decides to chase you on the run to that hard-to-access place? :lol: That's not-so-funny in real life.

I'm not so sure I'd go with the tight, colorful pants right now, either. According to what I've been seeing on Mexican news in the past few months, the bulls seem to be on to that one, sword and all.

I was once on a picnic with a group of Mexican ranchers and our path crossed a grassy area frequented by cattle. At some point, all of the ranchers got pretty excited by the actions of a cow as it came towards us. Like you, I was clueless as to what to do, other than survey for big trees (of which there were many, fortunately). What the ranchers did was start picking up fist-sized rocks and throwing them at the cow. They said that horns are particularly sensitive to this treatment. I can't say that I had the urge to carry out a study on the spot, though, so I can't confirm that. I'd hate for you to find out that this just peees them off and they follow you home.

[Edited on 9-28-2010 by Bajatripper]

Bajatripper - 9-28-2010 at 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by vandy
I would be really surprised if they didn't flee when you walk up to them, wave your hat/arms wildly and yell at them.
My favorite yell is "HYAHH! GITT!!"


Not sure if you're being funny there, but you did remind me of another memorable picnic moment. I was driving down a river levee in the Philippines with my girlfriend when a large carabao (water buffalo) wandered onto the levee in front of us and just stood there, much as the scene of the first Crocodile Dundee movie. Since I have none of his charm with animals, I just shut off the car and figured we were going to have to sit there in the hot tropical sun until the animal found something more interesting to gaze at. At that point, the 97 pounds of sweetness beside me got out of the car and made the Filipino equivalent of your suggetion above, and away went the carabao. How could I not marry the woman?

Bajatripper - 9-28-2010 at 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by mulegemichael
i'm just sayin'....why not carry a can on your belt....i'm somewhat of a pepper spray expert also having carried it,(and used it) for over 20 years and i know it will drop just about everything and anything in it's tracks...pretty good insurance if yer out hiking in the brush, bull or no bull


Don't they sell this stuff, or something similar, as a bear deterrent? Or is that something else entirely? If I had it along and a bull decided to test my speed, I'd certainly use it just before getting acquainted with those horns--and I wouldn't even care at that point which way the wind was blowing.

Bajatripper - 9-28-2010 at 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by windgrrl
We often sail from a pasture with 10-20 big boys munching away.

but I always have an eye on them. Never know what might get in their heads and what direction they'll decide to go.



Especially when you are waving those colorful sails. And you probably even have on a tight, colorful outfit, huh?:lol:

mcfez - 9-28-2010 at 12:04 PM

Bajatripper: And what if that bull or cow decides to chase you to that hard-to-access place? :lol: That's not-so-funny in real life.

Owning a farm up here....and having been chased by it all.....horse to goat to....turkeys too(!) ......yes...it aint funny. I agree with on that you Sir!

However....being in the open field....trying outrun a bull wont happen. I only made my suggestions to really....stay at a distance...eyes wide open. One must really bother these animals for it to even run at you....

mulegejim - 9-28-2010 at 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by BooJumMan
Once in Costa Rica I was walking through some grasslands/forest and approached a very large bull. It was very hot outside and I could tell it was a bull because he was dragging on the ground. :D Anyways the second he saw me and my friend he started charging us! My instinct told me to run, and I ran faster than I've ever ran, and we ended up crossing over a barb wire fence. I lost both my shoes in the escapade!

If that fence wasnt there I'd probably would have climbed a tree or something. I wouldn't know what to do otherwise. Seriously, I don't think there is much to do if a bull is charging you. I am all about NOT hurting animals in any way but it almost seems like the pepper spray might be worth it. Not spraying directly in the eyes or on the animal, but if he's coming to spray in the air, maybe it would be a deterrent?


Outrun your friend.

[Edited on 9-28-2010 by mulegejim]

Baja&Back - 9-28-2010 at 12:38 PM

To heck with pepper spray at 6 feet.

If anything, use a wasp bomb from 20 feet.

Legal in Mexico.

Bajatripper - 9-28-2010 at 01:31 PM

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Outrun your friend.



:lol::lol::lol:

sanquintinsince73 - 9-28-2010 at 01:57 PM

Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.

DENNIS - 9-28-2010 at 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.



No he isn't. He's hiking in open territory.
Guest in a foreign country??? Absolute nonsense. He has every right available to be here. He paid for this and Mexico should be proud of his unselfish acomplishments in this country.

When you're done bending over, stand up tall. It feels good.

vandenberg - 9-28-2010 at 02:21 PM

In the 70's on the way in to Cabo Pulmo in a 28ft motorhome we encountered a small herd of cows with one bull. Road was dirt in those days and that whole area fairly desolate. I honked the horn and the bull turned to face us and started snorting and scratching the dirt with a front hoof. I thought he would stick those nasty horns into my radiator for sure. Not knowing what to do, we decided to lay off the horn and stay motionless. It did work, however it seemed a very long time before the animal decided we were no threat to his herd.:biggrin::biggrin:

windgrrl - 9-28-2010 at 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by Bajatripper
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Originally posted by windgrrl
We often sail from a pasture with 10-20 big boys munching away.

but I always have an eye on them. Never know what might get in their heads and what direction they'll decide to go.



Especially when you are waving those colorful sails. And you probably even have on a tight, colorful outfit, huh?:lol:


Interesting thought picture...windsurfers bullfighting with their gear!!! We definitely do wear tight suits if it's cold, but the new colours are now serious millenium black neoprene instead of flamboyant '80s day-glo. The better to look like seals and attrack sharks, eh?

I thought I was being chased by a cow a long time ago, but I'm not so sure pepper spray would work on cattle. It doesn't seem to be the thing that wranglers use to herd cattle hereabouts. With a quick snap of the boom one can fill a sail and make it sound off like a shot though - sure scares my dog.

I hope bulls can't swim...:lol:

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[Edited on 9-28-2010 by windgrrl]

sanquintinsince73 - 9-28-2010 at 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.



No he isn't. He's hiking in open territory.
Guest in a foreign country??? Absolute nonsense. He has every right available to be here. He paid for this and Mexico should be proud of his unselfish acomplishments in this country.

When you're done bending over, stand up tall. It feels good.

Like I said, hiking in land that isn't his. These ranchers were here long before we "discovered" baja or Punta Banda or what have you. That's why we as Americans are hated everywhere now because we come in and try to change chit to our liking or way of life. Let the damn bulls be.:fire:

[Edited on 9-28-2010 by sanquintinsince73]

mooose29 - 9-28-2010 at 03:51 PM

I was running in the Swiss Alps a few years back and on my wayback in I was only about 1/4 mile from our house a herd of cows and bulls had decided to settle right accross the trail there were probably 20 of them.

I thought " what the h#!! am I going to do now"? The only way home was through the herd. I waited several minutes trying to psych myself up to get the nerve up to walk through the herd. I very slowly started walking though being careful not to make eye contact and to avoid even looking like I was moving towards any of the calfs.

Immediately 2 of the rather large cows decided I needed watching and they started walking behind me. I stop and they stoped, I moved and they moved. I started hearing some snorting so I stop again and now they were mad, luckly I was past all of the herd now except for these 2 who seemed to have it out for me. I slowly moved backward away from them this time keeping eye contact and trying to show them I was in charge. In reality I felt like crapping my shorts. I got about 100 feet away from them and just started running, and they went back to eating.

I spoke to my family about it after and they laughed and said that they were harmless, I'm not so sure about that.

mcfez - 9-28-2010 at 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.



No he isn't. He's hiking in open territory.
Guest in a foreign country??? Absolute nonsense. He has every right available to be here. He paid for this and Mexico should be proud of his unselfish acomplishments in this country.

When you're done bending over, stand up tall. It feels good.

Like I said, hiking in land that isn't his. These ranchers were here long before we "discovered" baja or Punta Banda or what have you. That's why we as Americans are hated everywhere now because we come in and try to change poop to our liking or way of life. Let the damn bulls be.:fire:

[Edited on 9-28-2010 by sanquintinsince73]


In 1519, the first Spaniards arrived and quickly absorbed the native peoples into Spain's vast colonial empire. For three centuries, Mexico was a colony...including Baja. It was not the evil American Empire........

sanquintinsince73 - 9-28-2010 at 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.



No he isn't. He's hiking in open territory.
Guest in a foreign country??? Absolute nonsense. He has every right available to be here. He paid for this and Mexico should be proud of his unselfish acomplishments in this country.

When you're done bending over, stand up tall. It feels good.

Like I said, hiking in land that isn't his. These ranchers were here long before we "discovered" baja or Punta Banda or what have you. That's why we as Americans are hated everywhere now because we come in and try to change poop to our liking or way of life. Let the damn bulls be.:fire:

[Edited on 9-28-2010 by sanquintinsince73]


In 1519, the first Spaniards arrived and quickly absorbed the native peoples into Spain's vast colonial empire. For three centuries, Mexico was a colony...including Baja. It was not the evil American Empire........

Thanks for the history lesson, Mcfez. I am sure that my great, great, great ancestors lived under Spanish rule in Mexico. The point I am trying to make is that we as Americans go to foreign lands, build our big beautiful homes with huge walls to keep the locals out, then we try to change things that we don't agree with.....like bulls grazing on someones land because it affects my morning hike. Give the bulls a break!!

mcfez - 9-28-2010 at 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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Originally posted by mcfez
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.



No he isn't. He's hiking in open territory.
Guest in a foreign country??? Absolute nonsense. He has every right available to be here. He paid for this and Mexico should be proud of his unselfish acomplishments in this country.

When you're done bending over, stand up tall. It feels good.

Like I said, hiking in land that isn't his. These ranchers were here long before we "discovered" baja or Punta Banda or what have you. That's why we as Americans are hated everywhere now because we come in and try to change poop to our liking or way of life. Let the damn bulls be.:fire:

[Edited on 9-28-2010 by sanquintinsince73]


In 1519, the first Spaniards arrived and quickly absorbed the native peoples into Spain's vast colonial empire. For three centuries, Mexico was a colony...including Baja. It was not the evil American Empire........

Thanks for the history lesson, Mcfez. I am sure that my great, great, great ancestors lived under Spanish rule in Mexico. The point I am trying to make is that we as Americans go to foreign lands, build our big beautiful homes with huge walls to keep the locals out, then we try to change things that we don't agree with.....like bulls grazing on someones land because it affects my morning hike. Give the bulls a break!!


We do create and demand change! I agree!

The Japanese do the same here.

Folks from India...my Gods....they even buy up Mom and Pops stores / 7/11 / Subways / and lots more...take our jobs....wear them funny clothes and all...not the American fashion that I know of...they are changing our range lands!

And what about them darn Irish guys back in the 1800's...coming over here simply because their potatoes...... took a dump......and they changed the American way!

Dont blame the Americans for world disorder, solely.

sanquintinsince73 - 9-28-2010 at 11:04 PM

Ok, now I'm sitting on a milk crate so that we can see eye to eye Dennis. You don't have to sink to name calling. I am just expressing my humble opinion. Get a life, dude.

Mcfez: I am not blaming Americans for the world's problems. My only concerns at this time are the U.S.A. and our way of life, and the fact that Chinese own me, my kids, and probably my grandkids if we ever get that far. Now as far as Baja is concerned, I do not like to see foreigners come in and demand change. They can do it on their own, poco a poco. After all, isn't that rustic old west feel part of the magic of Baja? I lived in Baja for 6 years but I returned stateside when I became the target of a kidnapping attempt. Most foreigners living in Baja are good people and treat the locals well. On the flipside I have seen some foreigners treat their Baja maids, gardners, and handymen badly. Many Cachanillas resent us because a few come in to town in our expensive cars, fat wallets, and build expensive homes behind huge walls. The locals don't see the walls as a deterrent to crime, many feel we isolate ourselves from the locals. 'nuff said...peace.

Cypress - 9-29-2010 at 05:18 AM

The locals, no matter where, usually preferr to associate with relatives and other long term residents. They don't want to hear how things are done back in..........., but welcome the $$$$$ that tourists and newcomers bring.

mcfez - 9-29-2010 at 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Ok, now I'm sitting on a milk crate so that we can see eye to eye Dennis. You don't have to sink to name calling. I am just expressing my humble opinion. Get a life, dude.

Mcfez: I am not blaming Americans for the world's problems. My only concerns at this time are the U.S.A. and our way of life, and the fact that Chinese own me, my kids, and probably my grandkids if we ever get that far. Now as far as Baja is concerned, I do not like to see foreigners come in and demand change. They can do it on their own, poco a poco. After all, isn't that rustic old west feel part of the magic of Baja? I lived in Baja for 6 years but I returned stateside when I became the target of a kidnapping attempt. Most foreigners living in Baja are good people and treat the locals well. On the flipside I have seen some foreigners treat their Baja maids, gardners, and handymen badly. Many Cachanillas resent us because a few come in to town in our expensive cars, fat wallets, and build expensive homes behind huge walls. The locals don't see the walls as a deterrent to crime, many feel we isolate ourselves from the locals. 'nuff said...peace.


Got it.
The campos we have a home in....
We bought in because it was "Baja".
Now a group of chitheads in there developed a "Homeowners Association" ...barking out rules....
Got it...I understand what your side of the point is...agree

wessongroup - 9-29-2010 at 07:55 AM

mcfez ...... Homeowners Association !!! ... ya, got to be kidding me... next no chickens... or goats... what the hell is this world coming too....

some good points developed from BS... thanks.. it all helps

sanquintinsince73 - 9-29-2010 at 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by mcfez
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Ok, now I'm sitting on a milk crate so that we can see eye to eye Dennis. You don't have to sink to name calling. I am just expressing my humble opinion. Get a life, dude.

Mcfez: I am not blaming Americans for the world's problems. My only concerns at this time are the U.S.A. and our way of life, and the fact that Chinese own me, my kids, and probably my grandkids if we ever get that far. Now as far as Baja is concerned, I do not like to see foreigners come in and demand change. They can do it on their own, poco a poco. After all, isn't that rustic old west feel part of the magic of Baja? I lived in Baja for 6 years but I returned stateside when I became the target of a kidnapping attempt. Most foreigners living in Baja are good people and treat the locals well. On the flipside I have seen some foreigners treat their Baja maids, gardners, and handymen badly. Many Cachanillas resent us because a few come in to town in our expensive cars, fat wallets, and build expensive homes behind huge walls. The locals don't see the walls as a deterrent to crime, many feel we isolate ourselves from the locals. 'nuff said...peace.


Got it.
The campos we have a home in....
We bought in because it was "Baja".
Now a group of chitheads in there developed a "Homeowners Association" ...barking out rules....
Got it...I understand what your side of the point is...agree

Just out of morbid curiosity, are they going to charge you guys HOA fees??

mcfez - 9-29-2010 at 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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Originally posted by mcfez
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Ok, now I'm sitting on a milk crate so that we can see eye to eye Dennis. You don't have to sink to name calling. I am just expressing my humble opinion. Get a life, dude.

Mcfez: I am not blaming Americans for the world's problems. My only concerns at this time are the U.S.A. and our way of life, and the fact that Chinese own me, my kids, and probably my grandkids if we ever get that far. Now as far as Baja is concerned, I do not like to see foreigners come in and demand change. They can do it on their own, poco a poco. After all, isn't that rustic old west feel part of the magic of Baja? I lived in Baja for 6 years but I returned stateside when I became the target of a kidnapping attempt. Most foreigners living in Baja are good people and treat the locals well. On the flipside I have seen some foreigners treat their Baja maids, gardners, and handymen badly. Many Cachanillas resent us because a few come in to town in our expensive cars, fat wallets, and build expensive homes behind huge walls. The locals don't see the walls as a deterrent to crime, many feel we isolate ourselves from the locals. 'nuff said...peace.


Got it.
The campos we have a home in....
We bought in because it was "Baja".
Now a group of chitheads in there developed a "Homeowners Association" ...barking out rules....
Got it...I understand what your side of the point is...agree

Just out of morbid curiosity, are they going to charge you guys HOA fees??


In their dreams :-)
They havent got there "yet".
Now they want porch lights on every house to help prevent break in's.........chain link fence around the entire complex...they have installed a guard at the entrance...I am waiting for the next hurricane to sweep this group off the sea.

Trying to talk to my big boss (wife) to build another house down by GB somewhere...no rules. No light.

Glad we're on good terms (you and I)

DENNIS - 9-29-2010 at 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Now they want porch lights on every house to help prevent break in's.........chain link fence around the entire complex...they have installed a guard at the entrance...


I repell from the idea of an HOA, but security isn't a bad idea and if an entire community is employing safety measures, it will make the entire community less vulnerable. Thieves will go elsewhere.

Eli - 9-29-2010 at 02:32 PM

So back to dealing with Big Critters;

Although I have lived in the ranch communities of Baja and Sonora for many years I expect that at heart I am more of a city girl than a rancher kid. I am in awe of those that can handle big critters, (this includes Turkeys), with no more than a wave of their arms, a few hoots and ande-les. I have done the shooo cow thing a few times, and it has worked, they have moved on, but my heart is always doing a little pitty pat and I am never very comfortable with the show I am putting on. I know the critters know that I am intimidated, I wish I could get past my inner fears, I am sure I stink of it to them. Oh well, at least goats and chickens can't stare me down.

Skeet/Loreto - 9-29-2010 at 04:05 PM

If a Bull keeps giving you a bad time do the following:

Find a great big c-ckleburr, place it gently under his Tail, then drop the tail and let Go.

You will not see the Bull for awhile!
An old Texas way!!

wessongroup - 9-29-2010 at 04:13 PM

try food... they are males, after all, the ladies should be pretty cool ... (have your husband) toss them some carrots.. bet they follow you everywhere... they are looking for something to eat...

who's are they,... talk to the owner.. might work wonders, sure they wouldn't mind you feed their cattle ... plus, they might even have names... :lol::lol:

sanquintinsince73 - 9-29-2010 at 04:47 PM

Reminds me of that gang movie years ago with Robert Duvall and Sean Penn. Robert Duvall's character is telling Sean Penns character a story about a couple bulls on a hill overlooking a herd of cows.

Bull #1: Hey dad, why don't we run over there and f*** one of them cows?

Bull #2: Son, why don't we walk over there and f*** them all?
:lol:

mcfez - 9-29-2010 at 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Reminds me of that gang movie years ago with Robert Duvall and Sean Penn. Robert Duvall's character is telling Sean Penns character a story about a couple bulls on a hill overlooking a herd of cows.

Bull #1: Hey dad, why don't we run over there and f*** one of them cows?

Bull #2: Son, why don't we walk over there and f*** them all?
:lol:


Bull #2 must be Viking :spingrin:

DENNIS - 9-29-2010 at 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Bull #2 must be Viking :spingrin:



Now I know why you're wearing those horns.

Hey, Yankee......is it my eyes or is your avatar getting darker???

toneart - 9-29-2010 at 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Eli
So back to dealing with Big Critters;

Although I have lived in the ranch communities of Baja and Sonora for many years I expect that at heart I am more of a city girl than a rancher kid. I am in awe of those that can handle big critters, (this includes Turkeys), with no more than a wave of their arms, a few hoots and ande-les. I have done the shooo cow thing a few times, and it has worked, they have moved on, but my heart is always doing a little pitty pat and I am never very comfortable with the show I am putting on. I know the critters know that I am intimidated, I wish I could get past my inner fears, I am sure I stink of it to them. Oh well, at least goats and chickens can't stare me down.


Eli, one step at a time! Just whisper to the turkeys that Thanksgiving is coming up in a couple of months. Maybe show them a picture. :o:yes: Next, maybe challenge the bull that is charging on The BajaNomad. If you can do that, you will then have the confidence to walk in any field without danger.:yes:

mcfez - 9-29-2010 at 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Bull #2 must be Viking :spingrin:



Now I know why you're wearing those horns.

Hey, Yankee......is it my eyes or is your avatar getting darker???


Strange that you noticed that too.....
Dont have a clue why either.

Bulls

Nappo - 9-29-2010 at 09:50 PM

Just wondering - During the "Bike the Bay" ride over the Coronado bridge a couple of months ago I talked to some great ladies who had Punta bunda shirts on and as we rode I asked them if they knew the book "God and Mr. Gomez" They all laughed and one said yep. Wonder if any of you Nomads know these gals as they were awesome. I'd love to communicate with them and visit if appropriate. I know I'm morphing out of the topic, but because it mentioned Punta Bunda I'm posting.
Thx

wessongroup - 9-29-2010 at 09:53 PM

Hope you took pictures... we all would like to see and meet them too .... :):)

sanquintinsince73 - 9-29-2010 at 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Bull #2 must be Viking :spingrin:



Now I know why you're wearing those horns.

Hey, Yankee......is it my eyes or is your avatar getting darker???


Strange that you noticed that too.....
Dont have a clue why either.

Maybe our screens are gettin' a little dusty. Stand still Mcfez, I'm gonna spray some cleaner on ya.

wessongroup - 9-29-2010 at 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Bull #2 must be Viking :spingrin:



Now I know why you're wearing those horns.

Hey, Yankee......is it my eyes or is your avatar getting darker???


Maybe it's one of those Dorian Gray ones... get a bit darker each time you ______________ :):)

sanquintinsince73 - 9-30-2010 at 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Bull #2 must be Viking :spingrin:



Now I know why you're wearing those horns.

Hey, Yankee......is it my eyes or is your avatar getting darker???


Maybe it's one of those Dorian Gray ones... get a bit darker each time you ______________ :):)

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

DENNIS - 9-30-2010 at 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Nappo
I know I'm morphing out of the topic, but because it mentioned Punta Bunda I'm posting.
Thx



Try your question on the PB Bulletin Board. There's a good chance you'll find them.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/puntabandanewsletter/

Eli - 9-30-2010 at 08:25 AM

Toneart, alas, I suspect, I am not known for my confrontational ability's.

wessongroup, your idea of carrying a little feed for them is not out of the realm of possibility, this might just work in 98% of the times that I pass a cow and the confronting issues are mine and not theirs.

Sometimes, I think the issue is, welllllll, when I look in their eyes, I just KNOW they know I eat them, aummmmm, except, I eat a lot more chickens & fish than cows and I have no guilt reflected back at me when I see them.

Oh well.

Saludos, Sara

New hiking uniforms for Baja

mcfez - 9-30-2010 at 09:38 AM



bull.jpg - 35kB

Eli - 9-30-2010 at 10:45 AM

Mkfez, that is funny, I will have to share it with my daughter.

Although, it might get you in whole other agenda of problems. I would hate to turn a bull on.

sanquintinsince73 - 9-30-2010 at 12:34 PM

CLASSSSIIICCCC!!!!!
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: