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20 TOURISTS kidnapped in Mexican resort city of Acapulco

Woooosh - 10-2-2010 at 07:17 PM

It's not Baja, but it's def not good. These 20 men, aged 17 and up-worked in a tire alignment shop and saved their money every year to take a vacation together. First time I can recall tourists being specifically targeted. One man when into a shop and when he came out they, and the cars were gone. Let's hope it stays off Baja and these tourists are found alive (although with less vacation time to enjoy).

By SERGIO FLORES, Associated press Writer – 52 mins ago
ACAPULCO, Mexico – Gunmen kidnapped 20 men who were traveling together in Mexico's Pacific coast resort city of Acapulco, authorities said Saturday. A shootout between drug gangs, meanwhile, left 14 people dead in remote town in the northern state of Durango, Mexican newspapers reported.

The group of men in Acapulco was visiting from the western city of Morelia and looking for a place to stay when they were abducted Thursday, said Fernando Monreal, director of state investigative police in Guerrero state, where the resort city is located. He said the kidnapping was reported by a man who had been with the group. The man told police that he and another fellow traveler had left the others to go a store and when they returned their companions were gone.

Witnesses said the men — who ranged in age from 17 to 47 — were kidnapped by an armed gang that drove them away in the four cars in which the group had been traveling. Police later found the cars abandoned near the kidnapping site. The motive was unknown. The man who notified police described his companions as tourists. He said they all worked for the same tire-alignment company in Morelia and saved up each year to take vacations together.

Monreal said police have been unable to locate the man since he reported the kidnapping Friday. The man left a cell phone but was not answering it, Monreal said. Acapulco has been a key battleground for lucrative drug-trafficking routes. Violence in the region increased this year after a split in the Beltran Leyva cartel, whose leadership has been hit hard by President Felipe Calderon's drug war. Police, who were scouring the resort cities and the highways leading out of it for the missing men, gave no indication that they were tied to drug trafficking.

Drug-gang henchmen frequently kidnap rivals and dump their bodies on the streets days later. But it is rare for a survivor of such kidnappings to go to the police. The shootout between rival drug-dealing gangs broke out Friday morning in the town of San Jose de la Cruz, El Universal and Reforma newspapers reported, citing the Durango state attorney general's office. Police and soldiers traveled to the town after being alerted by residents, Ruben Lopez, a spokesman for the office, was quoted as saying. It often takes authorities hours to travel to the scene of shootouts in Durango, a mountainous state that has long been a stronghold for Mexico's most powerful drug traffickers.

Nobody answered the phone Saturday at the state attorney general's office.

JESSE - 10-2-2010 at 07:49 PM

It appears the "tourists" where in reality members of la familia drug cartel from Michoacan.

sanquintinsince73 - 10-2-2010 at 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
It appears the "tourists" where in reality members of la familia drug cartel from Michoacan.

Exactly what I was going to suggest, Jesse. Most kidnappings aren't random. When I had "green light" on me it wasn't random, they thought I was rich.

That story sould be headlined....

Mexray - 10-2-2010 at 09:19 PM

...visitors to Mexico Beware...

How may stories have we read in recent years that begin with lines similar to:

(insert the name of your favorite Mexican city here) has been a key battleground for lucrative drug-trafficking routes

These stories, along with the increase in violence along the US's southern border, caused in most part by foreigners that have no regard for our laws, have given us cause to forgo any future plans to spend any of our time or $'s in Mexico, probably ever again!

Lets not get into all the 'whys' of the drug trade here - I know demand in the north creates the business of 'supply' in the south, yada, yada, yada...

I'm talking strictly about the violence factor that's increasingly being directed at foreigners visiting Mexico...sure one could be 'knocked off' by a scumbag here at home - BUT - with all the really bad press about Mexico's problems - why temp fate even more when traveling for fun?

We've come to appreciate many of the great things there are to see and explore here at 'home'; we've got lots of friendly people in small towns and villages here too; spreading some of our 'tourist' $'s around here at home might help the economy in these areas as well!

We have beaches, mountains, sunsets and warm weather up here as well - you just have to search them out, abet with a few more people nearby...!

We've loved the warm waters, clean air, soft sandy beaches, friendly people we've met, cool tequila drinks as the sun sets in all it's splendor in many Mexican regions, for over 40 years - but alas, I fear that part of our traveling life is over...Good bye, dear 'friend'...

Ray

[Edited on 10-3-2010 by Mexray]

toneart - 10-2-2010 at 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
It appears the "tourists" where in reality members of la familia drug cartel from Michoacan.

Jesse,

Where are you getting your information. The TV news reported it this evening as tourists, traveling together.

If you are correct, then I wonder how the story got twisted :?:

Woooosh - 10-2-2010 at 09:58 PM

Maybe they were on a narco-tour? Once this story came out, the damage to tourism was done- true or not. And once a crime this large is committed- no one believes what the gov't tells them. The families will have the truth.. either they were tire shop employees on their annual vacation, or they weren't.

David K - 10-2-2010 at 10:02 PM

"The group of men in Acapulco was visiting from the western city of Morelia and looking for a place to stay when they were abducted Thursday"

Is it too un-PC to say Mexicans in Mexico... where they on a tour or touring? A sure way to get readers,anyway!

Woooosh - 10-2-2010 at 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by David K
"The group of men in Acapulco was visiting from the western city of Morelia and looking for a place to stay when they were abducted Thursday"

Is it too un-PC to say Mexicans in Mexico... where they on a tour or touring? A sure way to get readers,anyway!

I didn't think of that as being particularly strange. Mexico is a big country and a large group of men looking for a hotel in a tourist destination does seem logical- if not very ill-planned. Maybe their Michoacan license plates stuck out or someone saw them going hotel to hotel and mistook the outing as a rival cartel group. It would only take one front-desk clerk to call a friend of a friend for the local narcos to mobilize quickly against this group. If they were narcos, not tourists- they would have had guns ready and it would have been a gunfight, not a mass abduction. This happened Thursday and the news tonight said the Mexican gov't was the source who said they were tourists- which isn't normal either. At this point there will be no truth- unless the families know something. Even the survivor (the one who called police) is missing/hiding now- or simply won't answer his cell phone...

[Edited on 10-3-2010 by Woooosh]

David K - 10-2-2010 at 10:25 PM

Hope they are okay!

Woooosh - 10-2-2010 at 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Hope they are okay!

That would be a nice change, but they are most surely dead already. Even if it was mistaken identity- there are rarely any witnesses.

[Edited on 10-3-2010 by Woooosh]

tjBill - 10-2-2010 at 10:40 PM

Now people in the US are going to start asking Nomads, "Aren't you worried about going to Mexico after those 20 tourists were kidnapped?" :no:

[Edited on 10-3-2010 by tjBill]

sanquintinsince73 - 10-3-2010 at 01:51 AM

There is more than meets the eye here. We will probably never know. As a former target of secuestradores, kidnappings are almost always never random. They know who they are coming for and why.

oxxo - 10-3-2010 at 04:23 AM

I feel like I'm asking a dumb question because the answer seems obvious, but these were Mexican "tourists" not gringos on tour, right? Seems odd that 20 Mexican men would be kidnapped. For what reason? Mexican guys working in Mexican tire shops have lots of money? Jesse's conclusion seems the logical answer. Anyway, the story, whatever the reason, will further gringo paranoia about traveling in Baja.

DENNIS - 10-3-2010 at 06:00 AM

Twenty Two enemy combatants wandering around behind the lines looking for a place to hang out?
Total BS.

woody with a view - 10-3-2010 at 06:04 AM

we're leaving friday at 4am. everyone else stay home! :light:

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Anyway, the story, whatever the reason, will further gringo paranoia about traveling in Baja.

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BajaDove - 10-3-2010 at 09:52 AM

Some off the wall gang of kidnappers looking for prey stumbles onto twenty men and has the facilities to take them without getting caught
SPONTANIOUS? i don't think so
Sounds planned and well exicuted .
It doesn't make me paranoid, just ready to duck if I see too many people in one place.

bajaguy - 10-3-2010 at 10:02 AM

22 men, from a tire alignment shop in Morelia are tourists???

I find it hard to believe that any business would let 22 of it's employees take a "vacation" at the same time....and it must be a somewhat large tire alignment shop to have 22 employees.........but, hey, it is Mexico

jeans - 10-3-2010 at 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by BajaDove
It doesn't make me paranoid, just ready to duck if I see too many people in one place.

I would agree there...can't be too cautious in noticing your surroundings. While driving in Tijuana recently on my way to the dentist, I found myself in traffic next to a black Explorer with blacked out windows.

We were heading in the same direction. I peeled off and doubled back around the block. :!:

Woooosh - 10-3-2010 at 10:24 AM

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It doesn't make me paranoid, just ready to duck if I see too many people in one place.

We were heading in the same direction. I peeled off and doubled back around the block. :!:

Good for you for being alert and taking passive defensive action (on BOTH sides of the border). We prevailed in an armed carjack attempt in TJ a few months back by being alert and being able to get away. I don't let anyone block me in anywhere.

I'm tempted to believe the "Mexican tourist" version for a couple reasons. The first is the owner of the tire shop was with the group, the second is they weren't armed or there would have been a gunfight instead of a kidnapping. Narcos don't get caught flat-footed like that in "enemy territory".

I got a call from my sister in CT last night regarding this- so it's too late for tourism damage control. If the gov't doesn't get a grip on thsi- our area could be next.

Twice a week pangas are being caught smuggling humans and drugs from Popotla (I presume) to San Diego. Another one just last night. The commandante of the PGJE in Rosarito was executed over human smuggling from Popotla just a month ago, yet it continues like before. There just isn't the will to stop it or the Mexican Navy doesn't have any boats. Either way this cancer is spreading and it looks malignant.

desertcpl - 10-3-2010 at 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
22 men, from a tire alignment shop in Morelia are tourists???

I find it hard to believe that any business would let 22 of it's employees take a "vacation" at the same time....and it must be a somewhat large tire alignment shop to have 22 employees.........but, hey, it is Mexico

I was thinking the same thing also,

bajaguy - 10-3-2010 at 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by jeans
...can't be too cautious in noticing your surroundings. While driving in Tijuana recently on my way to the dentist, I found myself in traffic next to a black Explorer with blacked out windows.

We were heading in the same direction. I peeled off and doubled back around the block. :!:

Jeans.....probably just a large family outing with someone that has to keep out of the sun.......

rts551 - 10-3-2010 at 10:51 AM

about that many work the large tire shop in GN,,, and they close for a week sometimes (Christmas, Semana Santa)

JESSE - 10-3-2010 at 11:00 AM

1.-22 men take a vacation and don't have a reservation or a place to stay?

2.-Why all men? where the family? children?

3.-Nobody has filed a missing person report for any of the men.

4.-Another group of 7 people from Michoacan is missing in Colima state.

It just doesn't add up.

DENNIS - 10-3-2010 at 11:02 AM

There's just too many unknowns here to allow speculation. Weird things do happen. Remember the Cardinal that got blown away in Guadalajara by the San Diego gang working for the cartel?

DENNIS - 10-3-2010 at 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by JESSE

2.-Why all men? where the family? children?

It was probably one of those gay tire shops.

Woooosh - 10-3-2010 at 12:27 PM

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I was thinking the same thing also,

From a management perspective- I know many service businesses that just close for two weeks and give everyone the time off rather than try to juggle everyones vacation schedules. Why weren't they armed in enemy territory if what you insinuate is true?

k-rico - 10-3-2010 at 01:41 PM

22 men (all mechanics, young to old) taking a vacation together in 4 cars?????

hahahaha

yeah, sure.

but maybe, I guess.

BajaGringo - 10-3-2010 at 01:45 PM

I agree that it probably wasn't just a random kidnapping of tourists but the rival narco angle doesn't add up either. The real story is probably somewhere in between and until more of the story is known we are all just guessing...

bajaguy - 10-3-2010 at 01:47 PM

OK, let's see if I get this............

22 single men, employes by a tire alignment shop (ages 17 to 47, without families) traveling together, supposedly tourists (22 single men as tourists????) from Morelia, in Acapulco looking for a place to stay (apparently the tour guide or travel agency in Morelia failed to make hotel/motel reservations in Acapulco), were kidnapped by an armed gang ....kidnapped from an unknown location (city park, local Wal-Mart, possibly Applebees's).....driven off in the "victims" three vehicles......and this is reported by a 22 year old who went to the store with another guy?????.............uh, something isn't right about the story or what is being reported........

sanquintinsince73 - 10-3-2010 at 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE

2.-Why all men? where the family? children?

It was probably one of those gay tire shops.

Gay Caballeros???

oxxo - 10-3-2010 at 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Gay Caballeros???

It's a new movie starring Chevy Chase - The 22 Amigos

sanquintinsince73 - 10-3-2010 at 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by oxxo

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Gay Caballeros???

It's a new movie starring Chevy Chase - The 22 Amigos

Lobsterman - 10-4-2010 at 04:04 AM

Exerpt from another website.

"The police have investigated the men. They are mechanics, tinsmiths, metal salesmen and construction workers. They are known to not be involved in any criminal enterprises. Five were brothers from one family and three were brothers from another family.

On September 25, seven other Michoacános disappeared and are presumed kidnapped. They were in a van en route to Manzanillo for a vacation. Among them is an American citizen named, Bryan Hernández Arredondo. The men are all young professionals: administrators, a doctor, an engineer, and a student. Their van was found abandoned last Saturday."

kill in mexico

wessongroup - 10-4-2010 at 05:29 AM

Thanks Lobsterman.... it does just seem to happen .... down in Mexico..

We have not thus far seen anything quite this bad in Baja ... but, we have had a few hanging bodies off bridges in TJ, ex AG's killed in their offices.. and a few other small things happening ...

Yeah, to us from the United States.. seems a bit surreal... but, did not just a short time back 70+ people crossing over to the USA from Central & South America were kidnapped & shot to death......... that too is a bit hard to get your "arms" around... but, it did in fact happen... as have many other really extreme examples of seemingly mindless killings.... welcome to our world ..

Will say, thanks to our LE and Armed Forces which allow us to live a safe as we do ... as we do not have it as bad as these poor folks do down here in Mexico... at this time....

Found this interesting "Over 200 Americans killed in Mexico since '04" believe this was a question sometime ago...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29095730/

[Edited on 10-4-2010 by wessongroup]

[Edited on 10-4-2010 by wessongroup]

durrelllrobert - 10-4-2010 at 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

It was probably one of those gay tire shops.

the one where you take a tire that keeps going down on you :lol:

DENNIS - 10-4-2010 at 07:57 AM

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the one where you take a tire that keeps going down on you :lol:

Very very very sick. Thanks for the laugh. :lol:

Woooosh - 10-4-2010 at 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by Lobsterman
Exerpt from another website.

"The police have investigated the men. They are mechanics, tinsmiths, metal salesmen and construction workers. They are known to not be involved in any criminal enterprises. Five were brothers from one family and three were brothers from another family.

On September 25, seven other Michoacános disappeared and are presumed kidnapped. They were in a van en route to Manzanillo for a vacation. Among them is an American citizen named, Bryan Hernández Arredondo. The men are all young professionals: administrators, a doctor, an engineer, and a student. Their van was found abandoned last Saturday."

Thanks Lobsterman. If you could post a link- that would be great. It's really a shame the first thing many people do these days (including many nomads) is to vilify the victims and then taunt them from the safety of their keyboards as being gay and somehow sub-human and deserving of their fate. If something happened to one of us nomads- what would our fellows nomads say about us?

[Edited on 10-4-2010 by Woooosh]

Never mind Lobsterman- I just found the source and you likely will not be able to link it here. Thanks for being a step ahead of me.

[Edited on 10-4-2010 by Woooosh]

DENNIS - 10-4-2010 at 09:43 AM

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from the safety of their keyboards as being gay

Well....it's reported they worked in a gay Llantera, LA LLANTA SOPLADA.
Whadoo I know? I don't write this stuff. :cool:

Woooosh - 10-4-2010 at 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Woooosh
from the safety of their keyboards as being gay

Well....it's reported they worked in a gay Llantera, LA LLANTA SOPLADA.
Whadoo I know? I don't write this stuff. :cool:

There are gay tire shops? Really? I think "The Blown Tire" simply means "blown tire", not The Blow Job... unless it was in Monterrey.

The reports today say the men were not "intercepted". They had bought beers and were drinking them in public next their cars. They must have thought it was the local police taking them away for that infraction. One family said the men were leery of going to Acapulco, but two of them had never seen the ocean. Now that's a sad story- to be that close to the ocean and then die before you get to see it.

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BajaGringo - 10-4-2010 at 01:01 PM

Reading the news out of Morelia where the families have been interviewed these guys all sound like regular joe's / working stiffs. I haven't seen one report to date linking any of them to organized crime - in fact just the opposite. The guys were all caravaning in older model family type vehicles that you would see moms taking their kids in to soccer practice. No late model SUV's. I agree that this doesn't sound like a random tourist kidnapping - too big a group to pull off anything like that but to just label them as narco's because it was a large group of men with no hotel reservation makes little sense either. I am just going to wait and see as there is obviously much more to this story.

I just pray that they all live to tell it...

[Edited on 10-4-2010 by BajaGringo]

MsTerieus - 10-4-2010 at 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert

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Originally posted by DENNIS

It was probably one of those gay tire shops.

the one where you take a tire that keeps going down on you :lol:

MsTerieus - 10-4-2010 at 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
[T]hese guys all sound like regular joe's / working stiffs.

Would ya stop with the Gay jokes, already?! :rolleyes:

Hook - 10-6-2010 at 07:46 AM

By GUSTAVO RUIZ, Associated Press Writer – Tue Oct 5, 9:03 pm ET

MORELIA, Mexico – Twenty men kidnapped last week in the Pacific resort city of Acapulco had no criminal records and may have been targeted by mistake, Mexican investigators said Tuesday.
Police have found no trace of the men, whose kidnapping is one of the biggest blows yet to a resort city whose sparkling bay was a favorite playground of Hollywood's elite decades ago.
Acapulco has long since lost its former glory and is now mostly popular with Mexican tourists. Even that source of income has been jeopardized as the port city becomes a drug trafficking battleground.
Shootouts have erupted near the main tourist strip and in August, soldiers killed a U.S. man on a highway outside the city. The soldiers said the American fired at them first, but the military says it is investigating that claim.
Police have confirmed that 19 of the abducted men were mechanics from the western city of Morelia and apparently had been vacationing together in the Pacific resort city, said Jesus Montejano, the state attorney general of Michoacan state, were Morelia is located.
A 17-year-old among the group was the son of one of the mechanics.
"They were all men of honorable work," Montejano told reporters. "Their families lived modestly and they were all mechanics of different specialties, and their shops have been located."
The kidnapping was reported Friday by a man who said he had been traveling with the group. He told police that he and another man went to the store and when they returned their companions, who had been traveling in four cars and were looking for a place to stay, were gone. The man said witnesses told him an armed gang had kidnapped the group.
The man had told police the men were mechanics who saved up each year to vacation together.
Fernando Monreal, director of the investigative police in Guerrero state, where Acapulco is located, said that the man's story seemed suspicious in a country where people rarely vacation with out their families.
But a search through criminal records in Michoacan and Guerrero states, and interviews with the families of the men, appeared to corroborate his story, officials have since said.
Police have found the four cars the group was traveling in but have found no trace of the missing men despite scouring highways around Acapulco.
In northern Mexico, meanwhile, marines arrested 17 alleged members of the Gulf cartel in the several operations across Tamaulipas, a state bordering Texas. The marines also seized 49 assault rifles, two handguns and six hand grenades, the navy said in a statement.
It was the second mass arrest of alleged Gulf cartel members in a week. Thirty suspected members of the gang were captured in raids in Tamaulipas last week.
Violence has surged in Tamaulipas and neighboring Nuevo Leon state this year since a turf war broke out between the Gulf cartel and its former ally, the Zetas gang of hit men.
The region has seen the assassination of a gubernatorial candidate, numerous mayors, grenade attacks and the massacre of 72 migrants who apparently refused to work for the Zetas.
In the latest violence, a shootout broke out in the city of Monterrey between gunmen and police trying to rescue a hostage.
Two gunmen were killed and three state police were injured, said Nuevo Leon Public Safety Secretary Luis Carlos Trevino.
Mexico's drug war has claimed an unprecedented 28,000 lives nationwide since President Felipe Calderon intensified the crackdown on the cartels, deploying thousands of soldiers and federal police across the country in December 2006.

DENNIS - 10-6-2010 at 10:16 AM

This whole thing is so bizarre I'm wondering if it ever happened although I suppose it did since the Acapulco Chamber of Commerce hasn't called BS as of yet.

Woooosh - 10-6-2010 at 11:29 AM

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This whole thing is so bizarre I'm wondering if it ever happened although I suppose it did since the Acapulco Chamber of Commerce hasn't called BS as of yet.

Quite the opposite. The Mayor of Acapulco has acknowledged the incident and has started a PR campaign specifically to counter the negative impact of this event on tourism. Just lipstick on a pig imo.

DENNIS - 10-6-2010 at 11:34 AM

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Quite the opposite. The Mayor of Acapulco has acknowledged the incident and has started a PR campaign specifically to counter the negative impact of this event on tourism. Just lipstick on a pig imo.

Is the mayor sure it really happened?

Woooosh - 10-7-2010 at 08:06 AM

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Is the mayor sure it really happened?

Yes. At the time of the incident he was convinced because of the action of the 'survivor" who went to the police and then hospitals looking for his companions. The first version (and now taken as the more accurate version) said the men had bought beer and were drinking them in public next to their cars, while the other man was inside. The men were either led or taken away by a group of men in police uniform presumably to be taken back to the station and fined for drinking in public. When the survivor couldn't find the men at the police station- or the hospital as a second thought- he was very convincing- enough that the Acapulco police did come to believe something bad to "tourists" had taken place- although no one has determined exactly what, who or how.

I don;t know if not finding a trace of them (beyond the vehicles being recovered) is a good sign or not. 20 men are a lot of trouble to guard, care for and feed when there is little money to be had from the families in return.

motoged - 10-12-2010 at 12:38 PM

No more news about these guys?

surfer jim - 10-12-2010 at 12:54 PM

Just wondering that myself. 20 people dissappear off downtown street and nobody has any news.

motoged - 10-12-2010 at 03:43 PM

I guess the teat of BN insight, thread-hijack, smart replies, and humour has been drained :lol:

but...as for the news follow-up: maybe the Mexican newspapers are so threatened by narco-powers that they have not printed any news or info relating to these guys... :no:

vandenberg - 10-22-2010 at 11:16 AM

Has any new information surfaced on the fate of these people ??

Woooosh - 10-22-2010 at 12:01 PM

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Has any new information surfaced on the fate of these people ??

The fate of the victims, no. But the Blog Del Narco has a video it says shows one of the men who did the kidnapping being "interrogated". That man says it was the work of "the barbie" and the military and local police were in on it. The victims must be long dead by now. No one feeds and hides a group that large.

http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/10/hombres-en-patrullas-res...

DENNIS - 10-22-2010 at 12:04 PM

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That man says it was the work of "the barbie" and the military and local police were in on it.

That must have been before he was busted??? I can't remember which came first.

sanquintinsince73 - 10-22-2010 at 12:16 PM

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That man says it was the work of "the barbie" and the military and local police were in on it.

That must have been before he was busted??? I can't remember which came first.

I think that the Barbie was busted way before this kidnapping. Unless he's a shot caller in prison.

Woooosh - 10-22-2010 at 12:49 PM

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That man says it was the work of "the barbie" and the military and local police were in on it.

That must have been before he was busted??? I can't remember which came first.

I think that the Barbie was busted way before this kidnapping. Unless he's a shot caller in prison.

yup, it takes a while for a snake to know when its head has been cut off.

Kidnapped Tourists In Acapulco

sanquintinsince73 - 11-3-2010 at 10:22 PM

The bodies of 18 of the 22 "tourists" kidnapped in Acapulco may have been found. A videotaped confession by two of the killers indicates that the kidnapping and subsequent execution were ordered by the cartel "La Familia". Also today, the body of a missing Canadian was found in his burned rental car near Acapulco.

ACAPULCO, GUERRERO (03/NOV/2010).- Peritos de la Procuraduría General de Justicia del Estado (PGJE) extrajeron 18 cuerpos de personas ejecutadas y enterradas en una “narcofosa” que se encuentra en una huerta de cocos en el poblado de Tunzingo, ubicado en la zona rural de Acapulco.

La Procuraduría de Justicia de Guerrero, hasta el momento, no descarta ni confirma que sean del grupo de los 20 michoacanos desaparecidos el pasado 30 de septiembre.

De acuerdo con datos recabados por personal de la Policía Investigadora Ministerial (PIM), en el lugar de los hechos se sacaron 18 cuerpos de una fosa de aproximadamente dos metros de ancho por cuatro de largo y una profundidad de 1.2 metros.

Esta tarde se suspendió la excavación debido a la falta de luz.

Desde las 09:00 horas de hoy, peritos de criminalística realizaban las excavaciones.

La búsqueda inició el martes, luego de una denuncia anónima en la que se indicó que los cuerpos serían los de los 20 turistas michoacanos.

Fernando Monreal Leyva, director de la Policía Investigadora Ministerial de Guerrero, aclaró que solo se podrá corroborar que los cadáveres corresponden a los michoacanos plagiados, hasta que se realicen las investigaciones correspondientes.

Presuntos criminales subieron hoy a internet un video donde aparecen dos hombres declarando a la cámara que habían matado a los "michoacanos" (presuntamente los 20 turistas) por órdenes de un hombre llamado Carlos Montemayor, alias "El Charro" o "El Compadre".

En las excavaciones participan agentes estatales y federales, apoyados por militares e infantes de la Marina.

En Guerrero, desde hace unos meses, bandas rivales del crimen organizado libran una guerra sin cuartel por las plazas de Acapulco y Zihuatanejo, dos puntos turísticos de este estado.

Con información de El Universal y EFE
CRÉDITOS: El Universal / NIMR Hoy 19:24 hrs

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by sanquintinsince73]

DENNIS - 11-4-2010 at 05:40 AM

Google translation of the above article:
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ACAPULCO, GUERRERO (03/NOV/2010) .- Experts from the Attorney General of the State (PGJE) extracted 18 bodies of people executed and buried in a "narcofosa" located in a coconut grove in the village of Tunzingo located in the rural area of Acapulco.

The Attorney General of Guerrero, so far, does not rule out or confirm that they are the group of 20 missing Michoacán on 30 September.

According to data collected by staff of the Ministerial Investigative Police (PIM) in the scene were removed 18 bodies from a mass of about two meters wide and four meters long and 1.2 meters deep.

This afternoon, the excavation was suspended due to lack of light.

From 09:00 am today, forensic experts for conducting the excavations.

The search began on Tuesday after an anonymous tip in which it said would be the bodies of 20 tourists Michoacan.

Fernando Monreal Leyva, director of the Ministerial Investigative Police of Guerrero, said that only confirm that the bodies may correspond to the Michoacán kidnapped, until investigations are completed.

Suspected criminals today rose Internet a video featuring two men declaring on camera that had killed the "Michoacan" (presumably the 20 tourists) on the orders of a man named Carlos Montemayor, alias "El Charro" or "El Compadre."

In the excavations involved state and federal agents, backed by soldiers and Marines.

In Guerrero, the last few months, rival gangs of organized crime are waging a relentless war on the streets of Acapulco and Zihuatanejo, two tourist spots in this state.

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BillP - 11-4-2010 at 07:05 AM

AP version

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/03/mexican-authorities-...

krafty - 11-4-2010 at 09:21 AM

Very sad for their families, especially if they were targeted incorrectly

Woooosh - 11-4-2010 at 09:45 AM

they could have at least left the bodies presentable for a funeral. Only good news is the bodies of the two confessed killers (blog del narcos forced confession on video) were found on top of the grave.

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by Woooosh]

Woooosh - 11-7-2010 at 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Woooosh
they could have at least left the bodies presentable for a funeral. Only good news is the bodies of the two confessed killers (blog del narcos forced confession on video) were found on top of the grave.

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by Woooosh]

Here is the end of this thread- their funerals...

http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldemexico/notas/n1846406.htm

18caskets.jpg - 17kB

k-rico - 11-7-2010 at 07:24 PM

Gee, thanks Woooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

BajaRat - 11-7-2010 at 08:20 PM

Ray,
very sad news, all the best. Lionel

BajaRat - 11-7-2010 at 08:37 PM

Looks like Zihuat and Durango are off the return visit list. What a shame, they were both such beautiful pueblos. Hope the best for them.

Mexray

Baja Bernie - 12-8-2010 at 06:34 PM

Ray, I never thought you would 'hang' it up over a little 'culling' of the heard...Fifty years going down there for me and I just can't help myself...The good folks are just to friendly and I love them.

I just watch my back, what's new for an old cop, and enjoy the folks...The bad guys do not get up when I travel and I am in bed when the shooting starts.

Besides I am now 74 and not worried about adding any more B'days to this body.

Re-think it my friend!

mcfez - 12-9-2010 at 06:31 PM

Insane to do this to good folks.

These bad guys need to be buried in the hot dessert sand up to their chins......with a cool can of Coco Cola a few inches away from their lips