BajaNomad - where is km 0?

where is km 0?

dizzyspots - 10-3-2010 at 03:26 PM

silly, rookie question, but where do you start measuring the KM's as you head south from San Felipe towards Puertecitos and Gonzaga Bay?

Thanks

bajalou - 10-3-2010 at 03:39 PM

At the left turn away from the airport road, just before La Hacienda.

David K - 10-3-2010 at 03:56 PM

The brand new section south of Puertecitos is using a different 0 point... I wish I took some photos of them...

Here is the Km. sign at the Puertecitos exit:

woody with a view - 10-3-2010 at 04:07 PM

km zero is wherever you are at the moment!

and upstream is to the north when facing the sea. downstream is south.....

DavidE - 10-3-2010 at 04:14 PM

"Puertecitos Use Left Lane"

Next it'll be "Alfonsina's Overflow Parking Use Ramp 6"

Too civilized for me; they're chasing me out of Mexico and down to Guatemala. Maybe there there won't be botts dotts and @#$%&^*&! texting!

k-rico - 10-3-2010 at 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by dizzyspots
silly, rookie question, but where do you start measuring the KM's as you head south from San Felipe towards Puertecitos and Gonzaga Bay?

Thanks

Great rookie question!!! There's a bunch of them on the peninsula. I think the first one, on the west side, is Tijuana City Hall. Where's the next? Ensenada? And after, and after......

[Edited on 10-3-2010 by k-rico]

mulegemichael - 10-3-2010 at 04:31 PM

i thought it was at guererro negro???...no?...i know it's where we start, at least mentally, our first kilometer

bajalou - 10-3-2010 at 05:09 PM

David - I think they are using the same spot - 74 K = 45.98 miles which looks about right to me.

bajajudy - 10-3-2010 at 05:28 PM

There is also one in San Lucas

David K - 10-3-2010 at 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by bajalou
David - I think they are using the same spot - 74 K = 45.98 miles which looks about right to me.

Yes Lou... that one is correct from the 0 point on the Airport road.. I am talking about the new road SOUTH of Puertecitos... they have km. markers that seem to be from Mexicali... I didn't write them down.. but it was 200 something (I think)...

David K - 10-3-2010 at 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by mulegemichael
i thought it was at guererro negro???...no?...i know it's where we start, at least mentally, our first kilometer

There are many Km. 0s in Baja:

Tijuana, Ensenada, San Quintin (where the newest part of the road was added in 1973 and the highway gets skinnier),
The L.A. Bay Hwy. Jcn. (formerly called Parador Punta Prieta), the State Border (Eagle Monument) near Guerrero Negro, Santa Rosalia, Loreto, Cd. Insurgentes, La Paz, Cabo San Lucas.

In the state of Baja California they go from north to south. In the state of Baja California Sur they go from south to north.

So, as you drive south the number get bigger as you drive along south from each Km. 0 point.

As you cross into Baja Sur the numbers get smaller as you drive south to each Km. 0 point!

bajalou - 10-3-2010 at 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by David K

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Originally posted by bajalou
David - I think they are using the same spot - 74 K = 45.98 miles which looks about right to me.

I guess I would expect some different counting on the new road, but San Felipe is about K200 from Mexicali on Hghy 5.

David K - 10-3-2010 at 07:08 PM

The rumor is the NEW Highway 5 will not use the current paved road south of San Felipe... that was engineered so poorly with all those steep vados. It will stay inland like the old Puertecitos road, as it is more direct and they know it will be a busy route for trucks and busses... Perhaps from San Felipe the 200+ km markers will continue, and they already figured the distance for the new alignment?

mcfez - 10-3-2010 at 09:57 PM

So you think the road will be out west of San Felipe....in the area of the transmission lines?

David K - 10-3-2010 at 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
So you think the road will be out west of San Felipe....in the area of the transmission lines?

South of San Felipe... the current paved road goes southeast then south, parallel to the coast.

The old Puertecitos road was first built to the sulfur mine back around WWII to Korean War days or there-abouts (sulfur is needed for gunpowder).

Arturo Grosso built the first road north from his Rancho Laguna Chapala in the mid 1950's and took it right to the sulfur mine to complete a road to San Felipe from the trans-peninsular road at his ranch... thus winning a financial prize offered by the government. There was no 'Puertecitos' until later in the 1950's... same thing with the campos at Gonzaga Bay... only reached by the sea before roads were built.

Here is 1962 map...

[Edited on 10-4-2010 by David K]

TMW - 10-4-2010 at 09:01 AM

When I was there in July of 09 I took a pix of KM282 past Puertecitos and it was about 8 K past the sign DK shows above. So I think they are referencing to Mexicali as 0KM once you get to Puertecitos and San Felipe up to the town. By 2020 it will be corrected.

David K - 10-4-2010 at 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by TW
When I was there in July of 09 I took a pix of KM282 past Puertecitos and it was about 8 K past the sign DK shows above. So I think they are referencing to Mexicali as 0KM once you get to Puertecitos and San Felipe up to the town. By 2020 it will be corrected.

Thanks TW... Km. 0 at Mexicali is at the split of Hwy. 5 and Hwy. 2 (5 miles from the border, southbound).

San Felipe is 120 more miles south (192 kms.)... Now, Km. 0 where the current paved Puertecitos road begins (at the airport road) is 6.3 miles from the traffic circle in San Felipe (10 km.)

192 km. + 10 km. = 202 km. (125 mi.)

Let's add that 74 km. (46 mi.) from the km. sign at the Puertecitos exit... = 276 km. (171 mi.)

You noted a Km. 282 sign...

282 - 276 = 6 km. (3.6 miles) This is close to your 8 km. figure.

I bet that is what they are doing? Perhaps they have the distance on the proposed new Hwy. 5 alignment figured out... It would be a bit shorter than the current route that runs out past Punta Estrella... maybe 6 kms. shorter (subtract 6 km. from the 276 km. figure for Puertecitos = 270 km.)

Your Km. 282 - my estimate of 270 via the sulfur mine = 12 km., a bit over your 8 km. figure, but close.

durrelllrobert - 10-4-2010 at 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by David K

Thanks TW... Km. 0 at Mexicali is at the split of Hwy. 5 and Hwy. 2 (5 miles from the border, southbound).

San Felipe is 120 more miles south (192 kms.)... Now, Km. 0 where the current paved Puertecitos road begins (at the airport road) is 6.3 miles from the traffic circle in San Felipe (10 km.)

192 km. + 10 km. = 202 km. (125 mi.)

Let's add that 74 km. (46 mi.) from the km. sign at the Puertecitos exit... = 276 km. (171 mi.)

You noted a Km. 282 sign...

282 - 276 = 6 km. (3.6 miles) This is close to your 8 km. figure.

I bet that is what they are doing? Perhaps they have the distance on the proposed new Hwy. 5 alignment figured out... It would be a bit shorter than the current route that runs out past Punta Estrella... maybe 6 kms. shorter (subtract 6 km. from the 276 km. figure for Puertecitos = 270 km.)

Your Km. 282 - my estimate of 270 via the sulfur mine = 12 km., a bit over your 8 km. figure, but close.

THANKS to our resident math major :lol:

dizzyspots - 10-4-2010 at 10:13 AM

OK so if a fellow Nomad says they live at KM43...

I would start counting klik's where?

bajalou - 10-4-2010 at 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by bajalou
At the left turn away from the airport road, just before La Hacienda.

David K - 10-4-2010 at 10:48 AM

The Kms. are posted all along the highway... You don't need to count... Just remember they are 0.6 mi. apart, so if one you need is missing and you get to Km. 44, just go back 6/10th of a mile.

David K - 10-4-2010 at 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert

THANKS to our resident math major :lol:

What else is a sprinkler/irrigation guy going to do on a rainy, wet Monday? :lol:

TMW - 10-4-2010 at 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by dizzyspots
OK so if a fellow Nomad says they live at KM43...

I would start counting klik's where?

Before you get to KM43 otherwise you'll pass it.

BajaWarrior - 10-6-2010 at 07:49 PM

I couldn't find any 0 km markers but came up with this sad looking km 1 tied to a barbed wire fence.