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Where did the name Willard come from in Punta Willard

mcfez - 10-10-2010 at 06:51 PM

I was at Papa's Website and read this:


Where did the name Willard come from in Punta Willard and Bahia Willard?

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David K - 10-10-2010 at 09:03 PM

You know, tht should really be an easy question...

I first looked through my books, then on line...

However, it isn't... I thought for many years it was a British sea captain's name... but I cannot find the documentation (I have been searching for 2 hours). I found a couple of "Willard's" that may be the ones (from about 120 years ago).

Anyway, when it is found, you will be the first to know!

The bay is really 'Bahia San Luis Gonzaga', not Willard... but the point by Papa Fernandez' has no other name but 'Willard'. Boaters tend to call it 'Willard Bay' because of the H.O. charts that have been calling it that.

The larger bay, south of Alfonsina's to Punta Final, is actually 'Ensenada de San Francisquito'... but with a name like that, you can't blame anyone for wanting to just call it 'Gonzaga Bay' as well!!!

[Edited on 10-11-2010 by David K]

Willard...

El Camote - 10-10-2010 at 09:27 PM

Don't you remember the 1971 movie? The prequel to "Ben" with the theme song sung by Michael Jackson. :tumble:

Willard_19712.JPG - 43kB

David K - 10-10-2010 at 10:18 PM

Excellent Camote, excellent!

mcfez - 10-11-2010 at 07:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
You know, tht should really be an easy question...

I first looked through my books, then on line...

However, it isn't... I thought for many years it was a British sea captain's name... but I cannot find the documentation (I have been searching for 2 hours). I found a couple of "Willard's" that may be the ones (from about 120 years ago).

Anyway, when it is found, you will be the first to know!

The bay is really 'Bahia San Luis Gonzaga', not Willard... but the point by Papa Fernandez' has no other name but 'Willard'. Boaters tend to call it 'Willard Bay' because of the H.O. charts that have been calling it that.

The larger bay, south of Alfonsina's to Punta Final, is actually 'Ensenada de San Francisquito'... but with a name like that, you can't blame anyone for wanting to gust call it 'Gonzaga Bay' as well!!!


'Ensenada de San Francisquito'......had no idea of that real name. Davidk......you need to apply for a teacher's certificate and teach history. Seriously.

durrelllrobert - 10-11-2010 at 08:24 AM

I understand that a group of Mexicans that joined the Mormon Church went to Utah as missionarys and stole the name there. www.utah.com/stateparks/Willard_bay :lol::lol:

Let's Look Back in Time!

David K - 10-11-2010 at 10:08 AM

First, three satellite views of the area surrounding Punta Willard:



Bahia San Luis Gonzaga ('Willard Bay'):



Punta Willard:



2008:



2003:



1975:



1970:



1962:



1941:



1930:



1919:



1907 ('Willard Point' first appears on maps):



This map from Arthur North's 'Camp and Camino in Lower California' c1910 (No mention of Willard Point in the book)

1905 (published in 1919):



1905:



1904:



1888:



1868:



1823:



1788:



1772:



1757 ('San Luis Gonzaga' first appears on maps):


Mexitron - 10-11-2010 at 10:49 AM

Nice time transect David! Will be interesting to find out the origins of the name.

Where did the word "transect" come from?

Stickers - 10-11-2010 at 10:57 AM

ORIGIN mid 17th cent. (as a verb): from trans- [through] + Latinsect- ‘divided by cutting’ (from the verb secare).

Sorry Mexitron, couldn't help myself :P

SFLowTide - 10-11-2010 at 11:28 AM

Looks like I'm going to have to do some research while I'm down there this week. Not sure the locals even know, but I'll ask.

mcfez - 10-11-2010 at 12:46 PM

Some of this stuff you come up with DavidK.....incredible docs and maps. Mind blowing. Thanks for the great timeline

DENNIS - 10-11-2010 at 01:41 PM

This fact is almost buried in history and would be lost if not for a chat I had with a miner in Loreto in the early sixties.
It took a box of beer to loosen his tongue, but with the appearance of a second box of Leche de Madre, the story tumbled out as a downpour.

It seems Papa Fernandez, many years back, raised ducks. Large, white and noisy ducks. He had practical reasons for this venture...he loved to eat them. Papa was tired of fish and would throw a duck on the fire regularly.
Papa would clip their wings and let his flock run around the neighborhood in a tight-nit group, almost as a covey of quail....which Papa also loved to eat, but they were too much effort for the yield.

After a few seasons of his flock multiplying in numbers, Papa was the proud owner of what amounted to a herd of ducks and one Pato in particular became attached to him, much like a loyal dog, and would follow in his path wherever his toils would take him. It was a tender, loving sight to see....... a man and his duck.

Papa was strongly attached to his new friend and would purposely keep him out of the line when the rest of the flock assembled to have their wings clipped as Papa thought the procedure too undignified to submit his loving bird to. Papa even gave his duck a name. He stopped short of Baptism, but named him Willard and Papa towering over Willard would stand to the side of the slow moving line and watch the common ducks be rendered as "grounded."

Time passed uneventfully until one fateful day, the wind arose and came through the area with a vengeance, tearing off roofs and laying flat the fences. The storm also picked up Willard who was able to flap his like-new wings, compensating for the death dealing hurricane and he flew in the direction of least resistance across the waters and landed, somewhat confused, on Isla San luis. Papa watched Willard's lift-off and noted the direction in which he had been flung and prepaired to set out at first calming of the weather to retrieve his beloved friend. Along with him he took his hired hand, Beto, to man the boat across the waters to landfall on the distant point.

After arriving on Isla San Luis, Papa and Beto set up camp and ate their fill of Duck Jerky to give them energy for the search ahead which was decided to take them in opposite directions around the point. Willard, for which it was hoped and prayed, would be found and reunited with his loving master, Papa, and off they went calling for Willard at the top of their voices, "Willard---Willard---Come here boy---Willard."

They walked and they called for days and when Papa had circled the island returning to the launch, Beto was nowhere to be seen. Papa was at first puzzled and after a few days of confusion, he became disheartened when a terrible reality set in. Willard had not been found and Beto was lost.

Papa could wait no longer as his cache of Duck Jerky was dwindling and more storm was gathering on the horizon so he struggled his way alone across the water to an empty home.

Time passed, weather subsided and Papa began his vigil of sitting on the shore, day and night, listening to the plaintive calls of, "Willard---C'mon Willard---Here Willard," and all the while, as Papa will swear to, the reply, "Quack---Quack---Quack," would echo in the air.

Neighbors and friends of Papa are certain to this day the voices in the distance can be heard.

And.....That's why it's called Punta Willard.

durrelllrobert - 10-11-2010 at 03:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS



And.....That's why it's called Punta Willard.
OK, I'll buy the Willard part but what was the orgin of the Punta part:?::?:

DENNIS - 10-11-2010 at 03:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS



And.....That's why it's called Punta Willard.
OK, I'll buy the Willard part but what was the orgin of the Punta part:?::?:



That's a reference to the top of your head. :lol:

mcfez - 10-11-2010 at 04:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
This fact is almost buried in history and would be lost if not for a chat I had with a miner in Loreto in the early sixties.
It took a box of beer to loosen his tongue, but with the appearance of a second box of Leche de Madre, the story tumbled out as a downpour.

It seems Papa Fernandez, many years back, raised ducks. Large, white and noisy ducks. He had practical reasons for this venture...he loved to eat them. Papa was tired of fish and would throw a duck on the fire regularly.
Papa would clip their wings and let his flock run around the neighborhood in a tight-nit group, almost as a covey of quail....which Papa also loved to eat, but they were too much effort for the yield.

After a few seasons of his flock multiplying in numbers, Papa was the proud owner of what amounted to a herd of ducks and one Pato in particular became attached to him, much like a loyal dog, and would follow in his path wherever his toils would take him. It was a tender, loving sight to see....... a man and his duck.

Papa was strongly attached to his new friend and would purposely keep him out of the line when the rest of the flock assembled to have their wings clipped as Papa thought the procedure too undignified to submit his loving bird to. Papa even gave his duck a name. He stopped short of Baptism, but named him Willard and Papa towering over Willard would stand to the side of the slow moving line and watch the common ducks be rendered as "grounded."

Time passed uneventfully until one fateful day, the wind arose and came through the area with a vengeance, tearing off roofs and laying flat the fences. The storm also picked up Willard who was able to flap his like-new wings, compensating for the death dealing hurricane and he flew in the direction of least resistance across the waters and landed, somewhat confused, on Isla San luis. Papa watched Willard's lift-off and noted the direction in which he had been flung and prepaired to set out at first calming of the weather to retrieve his beloved friend. Along with him he took his hired hand, Beto, to man the boat across the waters to landfall on the distant point.

After arriving on Isla San Luis, Papa and Beto set up camp and ate their fill of Duck Jerky to give them energy for the search ahead which was decided to take them in opposite directions around the point. Willard, for which it was hoped and prayed, would be found and reunited with his loving master, Papa, and off they went calling for Willard at the top of their voices, "Willard---Willard---Come here boy---Willard."

They walked and they called for days and when Papa had circled the island returning to the launch, Beto was nowhere to be seen. Papa was at first puzzled and after a few days of confusion, he became disheartened when a terrible reality set in. Willard had not been found and Beto was lost.

Papa could wait no longer as his cache of Duck Jerky was dwindling and more storm was gathering on the horizon so he struggled his way alone across the water to an empty home.

Time passed, weather subsided and Papa began his vigil of sitting on the shore, day and night, listening to the plaintive calls of, "Willard---C'mon Willard---Here Willard," and all the while, as Papa will swear to, the reply, "Quack---Quack---Quack," would echo in the air.

Neighbors and friends of Papa are certain to this day the voices in the distance can be heard.

And.....That's why it's called Punta Willard.


I just forwarded this to Papa Fernández camp. Interesting story...very interesting.

David K - 10-11-2010 at 04:17 PM

That is quite a yarn Dennis... Jimmy Smith would be proud of you!!

DENNIS - 10-11-2010 at 04:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
That is quite a yarn Dennis... Jimmy Smith would be proud of you!!



Yarn??? This is Gawd's Truth. Would I kid you, David?
Oh....thanks for the Jimmy Smith comment. That puts me, undeservedly, in fine company.

SFLowTide - 10-11-2010 at 04:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS



And.....That's why it's called Punta Willard.
OK, I'll buy the Willard part but what was the orgin of the Punta part:?::?:


Dennis,

I can almost smell the campfire, feel the warm sand under my feet and see the billions of stars in the sky when I read your story. It brings me back to the dozens, if not hundreds of stories my family has had the benefit of hearing from a trusting local fisherman, camp owner or, heaven forbid, hitchhiker we shared our campfire, a ride, supplies or just time with. It still amazes me how many of these "stories" we were told tuned out to be fact. Some of these "yarns" have taken decades to be proven, but out of the blue we get confirmation. Unfortunately, it seems that this was truer of stories of from years back. This doesn't mean that we had to endure our share of fables and out & out BS over the years, buy it did teach me to have an open mind. It is still one of the main reasons we keep coming back…

Stew

David K - 10-11-2010 at 05:00 PM

In 1957, Gonzaga Bay was uninhabited, only the pilot road opened by Arturo Grosso passed by it heading north from Laguna Chapala (built in 1955, info from Greg Niemann's 'Baja Legends')

The government road being built south from San Felipe had almost reached the area of El Huerfanito in 1957. Puertecitos had just started as a tourist resort in 1957, as well.
By 1962, following completion of the government road, two tourist camps had begun operations (Papa Fernandez' and Alfonsina's).
(from 1962 Lower California Guidebook)

A photo dated 1958 shows Papa Fernandez at Gonzaga Bay, and may have been when he started living there full time.

Here is a 1994 photo of Papa Fernandez (97) with (Baja Nomad member) 'Desert Rat':



Papa Fernandez passed away on February 20, 2001 at 104 years of age. (from Carlos Fiesta's www.BajaExpo.com)

In 1907, when the first map was published using the name 'Willard' for the point or bay, Papa was 10 years old.

Steve in Oro Valley - 10-11-2010 at 05:11 PM

Hi everybody:

Willard, If I am not mistaken, was a surveyor, plant explorer with the Mexican boundary survey in about 1855?

His name is part of the scientific name for the Sonoran palo blanco tree which is commonly seen on the slopes of Tetas de Cabra hill near San Carlos Bay in Sonora. That name would be Acacia willardiana (Willard's Acacia). Other plants from Sonora may contain reference to his name....

The Sonoran palo blanco is not to be confused with the palo blanco of Baja California Sur which is Lysiloma candida....

Willard's name may show on American made maps of long ago but newer Mexican maps use their own local and often Mexican names for place names...


Steve in Oro valley

DENNIS - 10-11-2010 at 05:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
In 1907, when the first map was published using the name 'Willard' for the point or bay, Papa was 10 years old.



Yeah....it was almost impossible to trust those old maps for their inaccuracies. That's why there are so many "Lost Mines" and "Lost This And Thats" in Baja. You just couldn't rely on them.
Now...a miner, who has been to the heart and soul of the earth, knows the real truth.

David K - 10-11-2010 at 05:31 PM

I bet the duck was named after the point??? :lol:;D

DENNIS - 10-11-2010 at 06:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
I bet the duck was named after the point??? :lol:;D



NoNoNo.............Don't believe that.
I've offered a solution to a mystery and DK is offering a mystery to a solution. How can we move forward with these contradictions?

"What came first? The Point or the Egg?"

Skipjack Joe - 10-11-2010 at 06:11 PM

I like your story, Dennis, but expected a different ending.

Papa never found Bedo because, in desperation, Bedo had eaten Willard and was afraid to show his face again at the ranch.

DENNIS - 10-11-2010 at 06:14 PM

Beto ate Willard??? :no::no:

Ken Bondy - 10-11-2010 at 06:39 PM

Nobody has this quite right yet, although DENNIS has parts of it. I have researched this at great length and have the historically correct answer. Cortez, when preparing for his great expedition, took on a young British adventurer named Willard Hamlin as a conscript. He served on the lead ship in various capacities, painter, laborer, carpenter, cook, a young English jack of all trades as the Cortez fleet crossed the oceans and started the exploration of that great narrow body of water which was later to bear his name. As the ships progressed farther north along the western body of land forming the narrow sea, they hauled anchor at a point which formed the northern boundary of what was to become, variously, the Bahia de Gonzaga. They needed water and supplies. Setting up camp on land, the Cortez crew met and traded with the indigenous people, the Cochimi, and other peaceful tribes. The Englishman Willard took a skiff one day to Isla San Luis and there, found a large population of white ducks (patos blancos). Recognizing a significant food source, he boxed up a breeding supply of ducks and brought them to the main camp on the mainland point. The ducks thrived, and provided a source of companionship, friendship, and food for the Cortez crew. After a year or so the expedition left Gonzaga, and in gratitude, Cortez himself named the northern point of the bay "Willard" in honor of his young British crewman.

Epilogue: Willard never got over his unnatural attraction for ducks. He died in disrepute and dishonor in Wales at the young age of 40.

David K - 10-11-2010 at 06:48 PM

Wow... you guys are pretty funny tonight!:tumble:

DENNIS - 10-11-2010 at 06:51 PM

Thank you, Ken. I doubt I want to know what Willard was doing to those ducks. It sounds disrespectful, for sure. It sets me off all the more to hear he had a perverse attraction to Wales as well. Poor endangered creatures have enough problems without this guy going around poking things at 'em.
Anyway, we're adding important pieces to the story in hopes they will all fit together.
I had my doubts about Igor's report that Beto ate Willard because, as everybody knows, Beto was a Vegan and only ate rocks and twigs....a commodity which Baja has in abundance.

Maybe ?

MrBillM - 10-11-2010 at 07:01 PM

I heard that a gringo explorer named Willard picked up a Bar Girl in Mexicali and took her south, settling for a while in Gonzaga.

As a tribute to her talents on lonely nights, he named the area "Puta de Willard".

The name stuck, but was altered a bit.

Could be.

Ken Bondy - 10-11-2010 at 07:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Thank you, Ken. I doubt I want to know what Willard was doing to those ducks. It sounds disrespectful, for sure. It sets me off all the more to hear he had a perverse attraction to Wales as well. Poor endangered creatures have enough problems without this guy going around poking things at 'em.
Anyway, we're adding important pieces to the story in hopes they will all fit together.
I had my doubts about Igor's report that Beto ate Willard because, as everybody knows, Beto was a Vegan and only ate rocks and twigs....a commodity which Baja has in abundance.


Love it DENNIS! Finally got the part about "Wales". The pieces are coming together.

DENNIS - 10-11-2010 at 08:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBillM

Could be.


Absolutly could be.

David K - 3-24-2014 at 11:27 PM

In some recent research, the name may have come from the highly respected U.S. consul in Guaymas, Alexander Willard (1868-1891)... Still looking, but that is the best answer I have so far, duck or no duck!

Skipjack Joe - 3-25-2014 at 03:38 AM

It has just come to my attention that the suplemental insurance company AFLAC was founded in 1955. This dovetails nicely with the recorded historic events centered around Papa Fernandez and the duck at this very same time. It's clear, therefore, that Willard did not just go missing, but flew north after his near demise and founded an institution that forever after gave ducks a reasonable sense of security.

chuckie - 3-25-2014 at 03:46 AM

My middle name is Willard (really) but I dont remember naming that punta...Of course my memory isnt as good as it used to be.....

bufeo - 3-25-2014 at 07:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Steve in Oro Valley
Hi everybody:

Willard, If I am not mistaken, was a surveyor, plant explorer with the Mexican boundary survey in about 1855?

His name is part of the scientific name for the Sonoran palo blanco tree which is commonly seen on the slopes of Tetas de Cabra hill near San Carlos Bay in Sonora. That name would be Acacia willardiana (Willard's Acacia). Other plants from Sonora may contain reference to his name....

The Sonoran palo blanco is not to be confused with the palo blanco of Baja California Sur which is Lysiloma candida....

Willard's name may show on American made maps of long ago but newer Mexican maps use their own local and often Mexican names for place names...


Steve in Oro valley


This seems to be the most logical explanation so far.

Allen R

watizname - 3-25-2014 at 08:44 AM

I'm goin with Mr Bill.:lol::lol::lol:

Cliffy - 3-25-2014 at 09:38 AM

You all know that a duck's quack has no echo don't you?

David K - 3-25-2014 at 11:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bufeo
Quote:
Originally posted by Steve in Oro Valley
Hi everybody:

Willard, If I am not mistaken, was a surveyor, plant explorer with the Mexican boundary survey in about 1855?

His name is part of the scientific name for the Sonoran palo blanco tree which is commonly seen on the slopes of Tetas de Cabra hill near San Carlos Bay in Sonora. That name would be Acacia willardiana (Willard's Acacia). Other plants from Sonora may contain reference to his name....

The Sonoran palo blanco is not to be confused with the palo blanco of Baja California Sur which is Lysiloma candida....

Willard's name may show on American made maps of long ago but newer Mexican maps use their own local and often Mexican names for place names...


Steve in Oro valley


This seems to be the most logical explanation so far.

Allen R


If anyone has a first name for this Willard the plant guy, please let us know. Because of the year and location, it may be the same guy who became the U.S. consul?

rts551 - 3-25-2014 at 01:51 PM

Dennis, you are so amazing. Just mind blowing how you come up with this stuff.... And the verification/supplementation that Igor and Ken come up with is beyond comprehension. You should write a book!

I'll turn a Tecate upside down for you guys as I pass by there tomorrow. And, lest I forget, I'll be sure to mark it on the GPS for posting at a later time!

mtgoat666 - 3-25-2014 at 02:12 PM

c. 1890 plant named by palmer for alexander willard, us consul at guayamas

DavidE - 3-25-2014 at 02:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBillM
I heard that a gringo explorer named Willard picked up a Bar Girl in Mexicali and took her south, settling for a while in Gonzaga.

As a tribute to her talents on lonely nights, he named the area "Puta de Willard".

The name stuck, but was altered a bit.

Could be.


I heard it a bit different. The guy's name was Hanson, the girl actually turned out to be a Willard, and that's where the cannibalism comes in...

mtgoat666 - 3-25-2014 at 02:20 PM

according to Plant Life of a Desert Archipelago: Flora of the Sonoran Islands in the Gulf ... 2012... By Felger, Wilder, Romero-Morales (part iv gazetteer)

punta willard is SW corner of isla tiburon

David K - 3-25-2014 at 06:04 PM

Yes, that's another Punta Willard... I am interested in the one at Gonzaga Bay (Papa Fernandez').

fdt - 3-25-2014 at 11:13 PM

Yes, it's another Punta Willard but in the same general area. I believe you have to factor in all the information. It's Punta Willard, Bahia Willard and Isla Willard in Baja California and Punta Willard in Sonora (Isla Tiburon) and there is also a Estacion de ferrocarril Willard (train station) south of Hermosillo and there is also a Willard street.
Do all of these have something or someone in comon? Do they all refer to the US Consul Alexander Willard?
David is on the right track and has shown documentation but there is more to this consul Willard....

jimgrms - 3-26-2014 at 02:36 PM

Willard the missing duck ,could fly ,maybe all the Puta's and punts and bahia are all named after him?

bufeo - 3-26-2014 at 02:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jimgrms
Willard the missing duck ,could fly ,maybe all the Puta's and punts and bahia are all named after him?


You may want to think about a re-write here. :yes:

Allen R

fdt - 3-26-2014 at 07:02 PM

:lol:

willardguy - 3-26-2014 at 08:26 PM

san luis "willard" gonzaga?


1747 Map

David K - 3-26-2014 at 10:35 PM

In 1746, Padre Fernando Consag (stationed at San Ignacio) sailed north by canoe along the east coast of Baja California to the Colorado River and was the one who gave the name San Luis Gonzaga to the bay.

Here is Consag's map published the following year... and as it is today, the bay has an island in it.





The northern, smaller bay some call 'Willard' in more recent years was the one referred to as San Luis Gonzaga or just 'San Luis' by missionaries.

A warehouse was built on the Bay of San Luis (Gonzaga) to store supplies shipped up the gulf from Loreto and other ports for the expanding mission chain, in 1769. The smaller bay offered much better protection from wind and waves. From the warehouse, Padre Serra had a cargo trail constructed to support the mission of San Fernando and to a lesser degree, Santa María, which was bypassed by the new trail (much of which can be seen from space).

The foundation ruins of the warehouse can still be seen, just above the high tide line, midway around the bay between Papa Fernandez' and Alfonsina's.

willardguy - 3-26-2014 at 10:52 PM

again, whatever pile of rocks you visited that you believed to be the ruins of a warehouse are long since gone. but keep telling folks its a must see when visiting the area!:rolleyes:

David K - 3-26-2014 at 11:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by willardguy
again, whatever pile of rocks you visited that you believed to be the ruins of a warehouse are long since gone. but keep telling folks its a must see when visiting the area!:rolleyes:


Sad they are gone... here it was in 2002:




However, the floor is still there...

They don't have to see it if they don't want to. In an exchange with Dr. Ritter, it is still there and he sent me photos.

" I did do a field documentation and limited test excavation at the Gonzaga ruins. There is a rock slab floor down about 40 cm. No artifacts per se--a few Mission-era (presumably) potsherds outside (very difficult to find the little pieces) and a few basalt flakes and maybe one older piece of green glass. Talked with Mike some about it--he thought it not Jesuit but perhaps Dominican or Colonial. I have other inquiries out. My guess is some sort of mamposteria base wall construction with pole and thatch superstructure. They were probably using the caliche nearby at that quarry for lime that has since melted away. Any thoughts, ideas, known collections, etc. would be welcome. I am writing all my work in Gonzaga up slowly--takes me a few years with everything else. Would like to put more excavation units there in the future. Eric"


willardguy - 3-26-2014 at 11:41 PM

keep the dream alive david :no:

David K - 3-26-2014 at 11:53 PM

No intiendo, maybe send me a u2u so we can be on the same page?

Mission era warehouse at Gonzaga Bay

David K - 10-14-2014 at 02:45 PM

http://www.xaguaro.com/MemoriasCD/page2/styled-10/styled-15/

Scroll down to Figure 3 to see the ruins as photographed in 2005 by Dr. Ritter.




That's Papa Fernandez' and Punta Willard in the background.

Supplies for the Franciscan and later Dominican missions to the north were shipped to here from Loreto (and the mainland perhaps) for the mission project 1769+


Here is from Dr. Ritter:

At Bahía San Luis Gonzaga larger shell and artifact scatters and midden buildup is most prevalent along the main bay’s estuary. Further away loci are small and less complex with scattered surface or near-surface shellfish remains, infrequent basalt or rare cryptocrystalline flakes, volcanic cores, an occasional metate, beach cobbles with no visible wear or facially pitted like an anvil stone, very little bone and no projectile points or bifaces noted. (A few of the cryptocrystalline flakes are biface-thinning flakes). A few very small near-shore rock shelters with similar cultural remains were observed. There are a variety of shellfish remains at sites and it would appear as in the historical record that marine resource procurement was the unsurprising major focus of coastal users. The tool kit appears simple and expedient. One place has a rectangular building with low wall remnants composed of cobbles (Figure 3). This may be the location of the Spanish embarcadero for the mission. Nearby are two boat slips or cleared pathway in the tidal shore for landing as found at Bahía de los Ángeles.Text

[Edited on 10-14-2014 by David K]

willardguy - 10-14-2014 at 04:52 PM

Imagine that, scattered shellfish remains on a beach thats been a fish camp for fifty years! dr. ritter didn't find anything!:rolleyes:

Bajahowodd - 10-14-2014 at 04:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
I understand that a group of Mexicans that joined the Mormon Church went to Utah as missionarys and stole the name there. www.utah.com/stateparks/Willard_bay :lol::lol:


You talikhg about Willard "Mitt" Romney?:lol::lol::lol:

David K - 10-14-2014 at 04:59 PM

He's looking down below the surface of today to where the surface was 250+ years ago. In the 2011 dig he found the floor stones of the warehouse (see above, post 3/26/14).