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MISSING GIRL!

JESSE - 10-15-2010 at 10:41 AM

Last night someone apparently kidnapped a 7 yr old in La Paz, the crime took place at about 4pm, her name is Lizeth, she is 7yrs old, had a green skirt, white shirt, and pink tennis shoes. Any info call CEL: 6121054884 ó al call 066.


[Edited on 10-15-2010 by JESSE]

Barry A. - 10-15-2010 at 10:54 AM

Well done, Jesse, for getting this word out--------I pray for a good result soon.

Barry

BMG - 10-15-2010 at 11:04 AM

This is terrible news. I hope the outcome is positive and the story turns out to not be as sinister as it sounds right now.

DENNIS - 10-15-2010 at 11:12 AM

What can we do to help???

JESSE - 10-15-2010 at 11:25 AM

Just keep an eye out, spread the word, if you see her, just call the authorities.

BajaBlanca - 10-15-2010 at 11:31 AM

wish we had those big signs in the states where the info is on the highways right away ......

Jesse, where is your restaurant ????

JESSE - 10-15-2010 at 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
wish we had those big signs in the states where the info is on the highways right away ......

Jesse, where is your restaurant ????


We are downtown, madero 1130, right next to aramburo supermarket.

comitan - 10-15-2010 at 04:39 PM

Se une la sociedad paceña en la búsqueda de la niña Lisset Soto Salinas Paceña society joins in the search for the girl Lissette Soto Salinas
La sociedad paceña, en unas cuantas horas, se ha unido y movilizado en la búsqueda de la niña Lisset Soto Salinas, desaparecida ayer jueves muy cerca de la tienda OXXO de Camino Real.

La sociedad paceña, en unas cuantas horas, se ha unido y movilizado en la búsqueda de la niña Lisset Soto Salinas, desaparecida ayer jueves muy cerca de la tienda OXXO de Camino Real. Society La Paz, in a few hours, has united and mobilized in the search for the girl Soto Lissette Salinas, who disappeared on Thursday near the Camino Real OXXO.

La sociedad paceña, en unas cuantas horas, se ha unido y movilizado en la búsqueda de la niña Lisset Soto Salinas, desaparecida ayer jueves muy cerca de la tienda OXXO de Camino Real, sin que hasta el momento, las autoridades policiacas tengan algún dato que lleve a la localización de la menor de 8 años. Society La Paz, in a few hours, has united and mobilized in the search for the girl Soto Lissette Salinas, who disappeared on Thursday near the Camino Real OXXO store, but until now, the police authorities have any data that leading to the location of less than 8 years.

La solidaridad y preocupación de los paceños los ha llevado a movilizarse rápidamente en la búsqueda de Lisset, utilizando para ello las redes sociales como Facebook donde se ha colocado la foto de la menor junto a su descripción y números teléfonicos donde aportar cualquier dato o pista que consiga devolverla a sus afligidos padres. Solidarity and concern of La Paz has taken to mobilize quickly in the search for Lisset, using social networking sites like Facebook where it has placed the photo of the child with his description and telephone numbers where they provide any data or track get it back to their grieving parents.

La zona de Camino Real, desde añoche fue infructuosamente “peinada”, así como las colonias aledañas Santa Fe, Progreso, Tabachines, La Fuente, Calandrio, Mezquitito y puntos intermedios donde se intentó ubicar a Lisset, quien se teme haya sido raptada. The area of Camino Real, last night was unsuccessful "groomed" and settlements surrounding Santa Fe, Progreso, Tabachines, The Source, calenders, Mezquitito and intermediate points where the attempt to locate Lisset, who fears has been kidnapped.

Por su parte la Procuraduría de Justicia ya exhortó a las partidas de la Ministerial destacamentadas a lo largo y ancho del estado para que participen en la ubicación de la menor. For its part, the Office of Justice and urged the parties to the Ministerial stationed throughout the state to participate in the placement of the child. Labor de búsqueda similar han iniciado elementos del Ejército Mexicano y la Marina. Labor have initiated similar search of the Mexican Army and Navy.

La PGJE informó que la desaparición de Lisset fue reportada por su padre Melchor Soto Torres quien señaló que la última vez que vio a su hija el 14 de octubre cuando abordó un camión urbano en las cercanías de la Universidad Autónoma de BCS con rumbo al fraccionamiento Camino Real aproximadamente a las 3 con 45 de la tardes. The PGJE reported that the disappearance of Lisset was reported by his father, Melchor Torres Soto who said the last time she saw her daughter on Oct. 14 when he boarded a city bus near the University of BCS due to fractionation Way Real approximately 3 to 45 of the afternoon. Por su parte la madre de la niña declaró le había recibdio un llamado de Lisset a su teléfono celular diciéndole que se había bajado del camión urbano en el OXXO de Camino Real y que se dirigía a su domicilio pero nunca llegó. For its part, the girl's mother told him Lisset recibdio call on his cell phone telling him he had left the city bus in OXXO Camino Real and was headed to his home but never arrived.

LISSET SOTO SALINAS tiene 8 años de edad, estatura 1.20 mts, tez blanca, complexión delgada, cabello lacio, frente amplia, ojos color obscuro, nariz pequeña, cejas semipobladas, boca mediana, labios medianos, mentón oval y al momento de su desaparición vestía un short color verde escolar, blusa blanca cuello redondo, tenis rosas y tines blancos, como seña particular la menor tiene los pabellones auriculares desde su nacimiento bien marcadas. Lissette SOTO SALINAS is 8 years old, 1.20 meters tall, fair complexion, slim build, straight hair, high forehead, dark brown eyes, small nose, eyebrows semipobladas, medium mouth, lips, medium oval chin and was wearing when he disappeared school green shorts, white blouse, neck, tennis roses and white tines as the smallest identifiable features has the ears from birth well marked.

Desgraciadamente una tragedia como la que en estos momentos sufre la familia de Lisset ha puesto en evidencia la falta de respuesta inmediata de los cuerpos policiacos quienes no dispusieron establecer retenes, cerrar las salidas de la ciudad o revisar, inmediatemente después de reportada la desaparición, los vehiculos sospechosos, lo que a la menor provocación y regularmente hacen. Unfortunately a tragedy like that right now the family suffers Lisset has highlighted the lack of immediate response of the police forces who did not have set up roadblocks, close out of the city or revise, reported immediately after the disappearance, suspicious vehicles, which at the slightest provocation and they often do.

BajaBlanca - 10-15-2010 at 08:38 PM

rtidiculous that they did not set up roadblocks ... unforgiveable.

Stickers - 10-15-2010 at 09:00 PM

Green SUV was following her as she walked home!




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JESSE - 10-15-2010 at 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
rtidiculous that they did not set up roadblocks ... unforgiveable.


They did set them up.

JESSE - 10-15-2010 at 10:53 PM

I am really concerned about this, everybody, and i mean everybody is looking for this girl. From regular people, to cops, military, and even organized crime has put up a price on the kidnappers head. Hope the criminal don't do something stupid or hes going to regret it badly.

bajajazz - 10-16-2010 at 09:52 AM

This makes me sick, literally. Even if she isn't hurt (which is doubtful) that little girl must be petrified with terror.

When I first came here in 1987 school kids were attending classes in three shifts, starting early in the morning and ending around eight o'clock in the evening. Their parents owned very few cars in those days and the kids mostly walked to and from school, at all hours of the day and well after dark. And they did so with complete safety.

And now we have kidnappings of young girls in broad daylight. And I blame the riff-raff that comes here from the mainland. Native La Pacenos simply don't behave like brutalized animals. Talk to some of the old-timers and they'll tell you, in confidence, that they didn't like the inauguration of the ferries from the mainland (even though it was good for business) because of the bad element that came over and stayed.

The local cops better pull their mordida-crazed heads out of their butts and start doing their damn job of protecting and serving.

sanquintinsince73 - 10-16-2010 at 01:10 PM

Any new's on the little girl??

Dave - 10-16-2010 at 01:30 PM

Failing to find a family connection, I'd suggest the authorities concentrate their efforts on single, male expats. There's a whole passel of scumbag perverts living in Baja.

desertcpl - 10-16-2010 at 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
Failing to find a family connection, I'd suggest the authorities concentrate their efforts on single, male expats. There's a whole passel of scumbag perverts living in Baja.


I will agree on that,, you hear it all the time,,

hope she is found soon,, what a pretty little thing, I have 2 daughters and grand babys,, nothing could be more stressful for the family than this

JESSE - 10-17-2010 at 02:40 AM

bump!

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mulege marv - 10-18-2010 at 05:05 AM

bump

Barry A. - 10-18-2010 at 08:19 AM

bump

BajaBlanca - 10-18-2010 at 05:13 PM

bump

mike odell - 10-18-2010 at 11:51 PM

bump,
Any new's Jesse? I haven't heard anything new.
Her picture and the story has been posted on the B.P.E in our area.
Hope and Prayers for this baby and her family.

DENNIS - 10-19-2010 at 08:14 AM

Don't want this to seem like a hijack, but has there been any word on the group that was abducted in Acapulco?

BajaBlanca - 10-19-2010 at 03:53 PM

@ Jesse, the last paragraph says that they did NOT set up roadblocks right away. If this is wrong - great news !!

comitan - 10-20-2010 at 11:38 AM

Was in La Paz today noticed one billboard with the girls picture, wanting her return.

[Edited on 10-20-2010 by comitan]

schwlind - 10-20-2010 at 03:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by comitan
Was in La Paz today noticed one billboard with the girls picture, wanting her return.

[Edited on 10-20-2010 by comitan]


We're all waiting anxiously for any word... hopefully good!

BajaBlanca - 10-20-2010 at 04:56 PM

come home baby girl ...

Trueheart - 10-20-2010 at 05:10 PM

A beautiful young lady. I have 3 daughters. I hope she comes home safely very soon!

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mulege marv - 10-21-2010 at 05:15 AM

bump

bajafam - 10-21-2010 at 08:39 AM

praying for her safe return :(

bajajazz - 10-21-2010 at 07:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajafam
praying for her safe return :(



Praying . . . and hustling for donations . . . yeah, right . . .

monoloco - 10-21-2010 at 08:53 PM

There are roadblocks up and fliers and posters with her photo all over La Paz.

BajaBlanca - 10-21-2010 at 09:04 PM

how is it possible she is not home yet. poor thing. I can't even fathom her fright.

bajajazz - 10-22-2010 at 08:55 AM

I understand there has been no ransom demand, so I assume the motive in kidnapping her was sexual. This is hard to say, but it is likely she has been violated and perhaps killed, buried in the desert somewhere, and her disappearance will remain a mystery unless someone talks. There are times when I desperately want to be wrong.

vandenberg - 10-22-2010 at 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by bajajazz
I understand there has been no ransom demand, so I assume the motive in kidnapping her was sexual. This is hard to say, but it is likely she has been violated and perhaps killed, buried in the desert somewhere, and her disappearance will remain a mystery unless someone talks. There are times when I desperately want to be wrong.


Those negative kind of thoughts should not be displayed on a public forum.
Should keep those to yourself.

durrelllrobert - 10-22-2010 at 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by vandenberg

Those negative kind of thoughts should not be displayed on a public forum.
Should keep those to yourself.

I couldn't agree more. She must be safe somewhere.

DENNIS - 10-22-2010 at 10:59 AM

Seems as though Kidnapping has become so prevalent lately. Perhaps it's being reported more rather than being handled privately.

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[Edited on 10-22-2010 by DENNIS]

bajajazz - 10-22-2010 at 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Quote:
Originally posted by vandenberg

Those negative kind of thoughts should not be displayed on a public forum.
Should keep those to yourself.

I couldn't agree more. She must be safe somewhere.



Sure, right. I know what let's do . . . let's close our eyes and clap our hands, REAL LOUD.

bajabass - 10-22-2010 at 03:12 PM

I think you know that thought is in the back of all our minds bajajazz, just not a point we want to discuss at this time, and hopefully never have to.

Maderita - 10-22-2010 at 03:36 PM

bajajazz,
Vandenberg's point is that your post was not socially decent or welcome. Family and friends may be reading this thread. They would be caused further pain by reading your negativistic, gruesome assumptions.
The kind-hearted and decent thing to do is to edit/delete your post. Others should refrain from quoting it, and Vandenberg should then delete the quote.
When there is no need to post anything during/after a tragedy, it is better to post nothing, unless you have something positive to say.
Over on the rock/ice climbing forums, that is generally accepted practice. Perhaps we are more used to dealing with tragic circumstances.
So, do you have a kind heart? The first time you were called out, you responded with sarcasm. Perhaps you could think it over and try a different response, instead of defending an indefensible position.

DENNIS - 10-22-2010 at 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Maderita
Over on the rock/ice climbing forums, that is generally accepted practice. Perhaps we are more used to dealing with tragic circumstances.


Perhaps this subject does need to be changed in the interest of civility. Allow me to begin by saying your statement above is absurd.
Rock and ice climbing tragedies more severe than a national insurgency which claims an untold number of lives on a daily basis using the most gruesome methods imaginable??
At least the climbers are dealing with a known danger and have a choice.

Maderita - 10-22-2010 at 07:05 PM

Dennis,
I'm not comparing one loss or incident to another. A tragedy is a tragedy. My point is that the families deserve our respect.

With regard to forum members having experience about posting manners and cilivility, I'm just suggesting that there might be some variation. For example, when a climber decks (ground fall), there are likley 25, 50, 100, or 1000 other climbers who know him/her intimately. There are family and friends on the forum wanting support. I have yet to read where a family member or friend either requested or desired to hear about how much blood was on the rock.

DENNIS - 10-23-2010 at 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by Maderita
With regard to forum members having experience about posting manners and cilivility, I'm just suggesting that there might be some variation. For example, when a climber decks (ground fall), there are likley 25, 50, 100, or 1000 other climbers who know him/her intimately. There are family and friends on the forum wanting support. I have yet to read where a family member or friend either requested or desired to hear about how much blood was on the rock.



Sounds like you enjoy a tight-nit, closed environment with emphasis on friendship, technique and perfection.
After being on this board for a while, you'll be able to see that tragedy in Mexican society, of which there is far too much, hardens an observers ability to show quiet compassion. It becomes a subject for open discussion and speculation probably because we have seen too often that's all there will be. We won't see the blood on the rock wall or the floor. We won't see or hear anything. We're only left to guess.........so that's what we do.

bajajazz - 10-23-2010 at 08:12 AM

I have owned property in La Paz and lived much of my life here since 1987 and I am sick and tired of the mad rush by the power structure in this town to change it from a place that is safe for kids and retirees into something resembling Cabo San Lucas or some other hoarhouse resort, all in the name of "providing employment" for the messy masses from the mainland.

The kidnapping and brutalization of this little girl is a direct product of these policies pushing hyper-development.

I am sorry, I am deeply sorry, and sickened by the whole damn thing. As I said, I desperately hope I'm wrong about Lissette's fate. But the facts are that any kind of "happy" outcome of this situation is nil. And a lesson must be learned from it, that the insane rush for development here in La Paz is degrading the quality of life here in a way that affects everyone. We are losing something precious which, once lost, cannot be retrieved.

My apologies, my sympathies, and a big piece of my heart go out to that little girl's parents. But it's time to wake up and get real.

wilderone - 10-23-2010 at 09:35 AM

"And a lesson must be learned from it, that the insane rush for development here in La Paz is degrading the quality of life here in a way that affects everyone. We are losing something precious which, once lost, cannot be retrieved."

Amen.

Lisette - my prayers go out to you and your family.

tripledigitken - 10-23-2010 at 10:32 AM

The underbelly of Baja is getting bigger.

Most of us take our “rose colored” glasses with us to Baja, some just never take them off. Leaving them on risks becoming delusional, I’m sorry to say.

I hope this has a happy ending.

bajafam - 10-23-2010 at 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by bajajazz
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Originally posted by bajafam
praying for her safe return :(



Praying . . . and hustling for donations . . . yeah, right . . .


I am in no way "hustling" for donations. I merely changed my signature to reflect the growth of my CD mission, which has increased from helping just Miss Sirena to helping the entire community. No one is making you donate or even gve it a second thought.

Not to hijack, and I'm sorry, but this insinuation insulted me. My family and I are praying for Lizeth's safe return. We can pray and help others at the same time.
With peace,
bajafam

KAT54 - 10-23-2010 at 01:37 PM

Your website says you have a store in mexico.
"Cloth Diaper Mission ~ help me cloth diaper Bahia Asuncion, Baja California Sur. Bahia Bebe ~ my storefront for the Bahia (and beyond!), with cloth diaper service, RENTALS, and SALES!"
Looks like you are hustling donations too.

bajafam - 10-23-2010 at 03:35 PM

Again, I don't want to hijack this thread. I will be posting a thread explaining what I am doing very soon. It is still in the works.
The donations are for the fees to become a non-profit (The Cloth Diaper Mission)...to get this status costs money. The donations are also for the diapers, etc. to GIVE to families, such as what I did for Sirena, Adrian, and Izaak.
The other part (Bahia Bebe - the store, not yet built) is the for-profit side, which will provide the diapering service, and new items bought wholesale for this purpose. NONE of the donations will be going into this portion.

Sorry if the links are confusing, and if you feel I am hustling. Again, no one is asking you to donate. Just ignore the signature if that is the way you feel.
With peace,
Michelle

DENNIS - 10-23-2010 at 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by bajafam

Michelle



Don't allow the Kat animal to influence your thoughts. He/She is problematic..................and meaningless.
Hey there, bajafam, don't let anyone here cause you to react as you did.
Do your stuff and be proud and happy for your efforts.

norte - 10-23-2010 at 04:13 PM

hey pretty good. get the diaperswith donations and then charge to clean them.
Quote:
Originally posted by bajafam
Again, I don't want to hijack this thread. I will be posting a thread explaining what I am doing very soon. It is still in the works.
The donations are for the fees to become a non-profit (The Cloth Diaper Mission)...to get this status costs money. The donations are also for the diapers, etc. to GIVE to families, such as what I did for Sirena, Adrian, and Izaak.
The other part (Bahia Bebe - the store, not yet built) is the for-profit side, which will provide the diapering service, and new items bought wholesale for this purpose. NONE of the donations will be going into this portion.

Sorry if the links are confusing, and if you feel I am hustling. Again, no one is asking you to donate. Just ignore the signature if that is the way you feel.
With peace,
Michelle

bajafam - 10-23-2010 at 04:30 PM

I no longer wish to take away from the seriousness of this thread. Please refer to:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=48650

for any further information, discussion, bashing....whatever floats your boat!

Michelle

mcfez - 11-2-2010 at 07:32 AM

I just got hold of this. Any word of the child? Geeze.....some humans are so primate.

durrelllrobert - 11-2-2010 at 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by wilderone
"And a lesson must be learned from it, that the insane rush for development .......

development results in the kinapping of children:?::?::?: tell that to the Japenese :lol::lol:

BajaBlanca - 11-2-2010 at 01:11 PM

Jesse, no encontraron la nina ???? No girl found yet ????

BAJACAT - 11-4-2010 at 08:14 AM

This morning they show her picture in CANAL 12 TIJUANA, they are still looking for her...

BajaBlanca - 11-4-2010 at 10:52 AM

muy triste. very very very sad that she is not home in her bed with mom and dad.

lizard lips - 11-4-2010 at 06:02 PM

Is there any word yet?