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Scaring dogs with skyrockets

Martyman - 11-3-2010 at 03:31 PM

I loves me skyrockets! Some dog owners do not like me. I try to announce that small explosions will be happening to whoever may be around. The way I see it...the more loud explosions dogs are exposed to, the more they'll get used to it. Maybe I'm wrong?
That dog cujo @ gecko, tried to grab the lit rocket out of the air.

Last spring i didn't get the biggest skyrockets, but since the Giants won the world series i will get the big ones this time. Sorry dogs.

Russ - 11-3-2010 at 03:55 PM

You sound like my neighbor. He's running down his warehouse of fireworks but I'm pretty sure he's got enough for Thanks Giving , Xmas & New Years and maybe a few in between. Lucky for me Mason goes back to sleep after the first round goes off. His, Mr. Fireworks, wife has to hold the barking dog during the shows or it would grab one mid launch.

DENNIS - 11-3-2010 at 04:06 PM

Let off that crap around my dog and you'll be trucked to the hospital.

DENNIS - 11-3-2010 at 04:08 PM

If you're lucky.

BajaWarrior - 11-3-2010 at 04:27 PM

One of my Rottweillers is now 11 years old now and still if he hears a "boom" even in the far off distance he want in the house and proceeds to one of the shower stalls in our house or a corner.

He's a great dog and many Nomads even know him but the sound of fireworks really scares him.

But ya' know? Over 30 years of Baja travel/residing and I'm pretty much tired of those fireworks. Go blow them up far from where people live and camp please.

He's the one lying down.





[Edited on 11-3-2010 by BajaWarrior]

Some professional advice from Dr. McFez

mcfez - 11-3-2010 at 04:28 PM

Your post sounds like you are trolling..............


Either you:
[a]. Hate dogs.
[B]. Have developmental disabilities.
[c]. Dogs and humans hate you.

Undesirable behaviors are learned through interactions with the social and physical environment. Man....you must have had a real bad childhood. Sorry.

Try to do extraordinary things with you life. Makes one feel better all inside. Start with being nice towards others...and dogs.

You Sic marooon.


.........The way I see it...the more loud explosions dogs are exposed to, the more they'll get used to it. Maybe I'm wrong?

No dude...no. It hurts their hearing in a major way. Painful. They bark because of the pain.



[Edited on 11-3-2010 by mcfez]

Packoderm - 11-3-2010 at 04:36 PM

Are you setting off bottle rockets high into the air like I see so often in Baja, or are you deliberately pointing them at dogs? I'm trying to determine if you're a marooon or just a rowdy. Maybe it's that you'd be considered more of a marooon if you set them off in white, gated communities.

BajaWarrior - 11-3-2010 at 04:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by soulpatch
I kind of think that since it is legal in baja and Marty is notifying his neighbors it's no big thing. It's not like we live stacked one on top of the other down there.
By the way, no dog I have ever owned was too concerned about fireworks so that has not been an issue for me.
All these rules.....


I'll give you that, some dogs are not affected at all so it can't be the hearing it's bothering? My female Rotty is not affected by the fireworks at all.

DENNIS - 11-3-2010 at 04:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by soulpatch
I kind of think that since it is legal in baja and Marty is notifying his neighbors it's no big thing. It's not like we live stacked one on top of the other down there.
By the way, no dog I have ever owned was too concerned about fireworks so that has not been an issue for me.
All these rules.....



Pure Bull Sht. Everybody knows this crap drives pets nuts. It's the rare dog who will be numb to it.

What the eff is it about explosions that make a grown man wet his pants?
No military background...for sure.

If people here where I live ever get into explosives, they had best understand physical violance at the same time. I promise that's what they'll see from me and they won't be able to deal with it.

Santiago - 11-3-2010 at 05:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Packoderm
Maybe it's that you'd be considered more of a marooon if you set them off in white, gated communities.

Camp Gecko is the lilly-whitest place I've ever been to and yes, we do have a gate. Sort of. Doc put up a chain across the entryway to camp in a vain attempt to keep over-night campers out, but people were too lazy to put it back up after driving thru so now it lays in the dirt and we drive over it.
We do have an Irish problem on the south side of camp and I swear I can hear banjos coming from the last row late at night.
Marty's a good guy - he takes the time to tell the camp that at so-and-so time he's gonna shoot off fireworks. Seems reasonable to me.

monoloco - 11-3-2010 at 05:16 PM

I had a rottweiler and when someone lit off a string of firecrackers at a party she jumped right in the middle of them and was trying to bite them as they exploded.

Woooosh - 11-3-2010 at 05:19 PM

Dogs hate them. Even gun dogs hate them because there is no reward for the noise. No retrieve, no swim, no taste of feathers, no "atta-girl!" One of our dogs would shake and suffer a lot during the really loud M80-type fireworks- but he's deaf now so no problemo for him.

lizard lips - 11-3-2010 at 05:58 PM

I live in the city of Ensenada and at Christmas and New Years the noise lasts forever. You even get to know what neighbors have automatic weapons.

I HATE EM AND MY DOG HATES EM WORSE!

I turn up the music LOUD in the house and go have dinner with the family at my mother in laws. When I return "Booger" is still shaking. It really hurts his ears. I say if you really want a blast grease up a M50 and shove it up your culo and light it.

Mexicorn - 11-3-2010 at 06:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Let off that crap around my dog and you'll be trucked to the hospital.


Or Put in a George Foreman grill.

My dog hates loud booms and so do I. !!!

toneart - 11-3-2010 at 07:55 PM

I hate any kind of noisemakers. My dog starts shaking and stays right by my side during the Fourth of July, gun blasts and thunderstorms. He never sleeps next to my bed except for those times. I certainly relent. I also pet him and talk to him in a calm voice. That does help because he trusts me.

But a dog doesn't understand what explosions are. They are very threatened and scared. Just imagine if you were a dog and lacked the intellectual capacity to understand.

Hunters who say dogs can be trained to learn to like gun shots, if that is your experience, fine. I don't believe it. I can assure you my dog does not like them.

Many dogs leave home because they are so scared and distressed. They become disoriented and keep running. Many are lost forever and some get hit by vehicles and killed.

Grow up, Marty. Loud explosions are obnoxious and consequently, so are you. That is not an indictment of you as a person. I don't know you, so it only applies to your penchant for making loud noises. Please be more considerate.

You put it up here on the board. I hope you will take the majority of unfavorable comments and learn.

Martyman - 11-4-2010 at 08:53 AM

Passionate about the dogs are we. Hey, i like dogs too. Mine have never had problems with the noise. Lets see, I'm a sic (nice spelling) marooon. Had a terrible childhood, a troll and need to grow up. And (will be) trucked to the hospital.
It seems with all the therapy I've had, I should be further along. Do you guys always write such nasty things about people you've never met? Sounds like facebook.
No i don't aim skyrockets at dogs...jeez people.
Thanks for sticking up for me soulpatch and santiago. Glad you are my neighbors!
Did the rest of you just need to vent? Having a bad day are we? Hope you are feeling better.

Pompano - 11-4-2010 at 09:02 AM

Tony, I understand where you are coming from..but you are wrong about loud noises and dogs.

Sure, it's very unsettling when your dog has a fear of thunder, fireworks or other loud and sudden noises. They will express their fear in destructive behavior, barking, cowering, and throwing various fits.

But...there are two mistakes we often make which only make the situation worse. First, never reprimand or punish the dog for being afraid. He will only become more frightened. Secondly, never verbally or physically try to reassure or comfort the dog when he is acting fearful. If you stroke, cradle or hug your dog while saying things like, 'Oh poor baby, it's OK, there's nothing to be afraid of,' the dog doesn't understand your words, but he does understand that he is receiving a gentle, soothing reward by your actions and tone of voice. The dog usually concludes it is doing the right thing by acting nervous because you are so approving of it. Remember, this is a dog..


Sometimes simply stopping the unintentional reward stops the fearful behavior. But until the dog is over his fears, it is best to confine him to a place where he can't hurt himself or completely destroy your property. A crate is ideal.

Brush up on some obedience training and teach your dog a few tricks and games. It is difficult for a dog to be afraid when he is enjoying his favorite game of fetch. It is difficult to think about the thunder storm outside when the dog is concentrating on a quick series of Come Here, Sit, Heel, Sit, Shake Hands, Down, Roll Over, etc. The idea is to distract the dog from the noise. You can then shower the dog with lots of affection and attention, but for obeying a simple command of sit-shake hands, instead of for acting fearful.
The key is patience and practice.

Do not wait until the night before the thunder storm or the third of July (fear of fireworks) to begin teaching your dog a few tricks. Be sure he knows them well beforehand. He will probably have trouble concentrating at first, so the better he knows the games and tricks, the easier it will be for him to perform them under pressure.


Another method of helping your dog overcome his fear is to slowly and gradually accustom him to the noises that frighten him. This can be done by making a recording of the sounds and playing it back to the dog while he is enjoying everyday life and activities. Many music stores have soundtracks of fireworks, thunder storms and rain that you can purchase. Start by playing it back at such a low volume that you can barely hear it, but the dog's keen hearing will. The dog should show no signs of fear at this volume. Gradually, over the course of weeks or months, increase the volume by tiny increments. The volume is increased so slowly that the dog hardly notices the change. Eventually he will be used to hearing the sounds at full force. If at any time, your dog shows signs of fear, decrease the volume again and proceed a little more slowly. This procedure will work more quickly if you combine it with distraction training.

Making loud noises, like banging that pot with a spoon while feeding him will also help..he will learn to associate the noise with a reward..his food. All of this works, Tony..and Paco will like the attention you shower on him.

http://www.gundogsupply.com/richard-wolters.html

My best recommendation to you is too look up the book above on Amazon books and buy it. Wolter's is/was a magician in the training of any dog..hunting, family, or mere pet.





I've trained a few dogs in my time..none remained afraid of noises for long....and looking forward to the next one soon! Co-Pilot wants a boxer..she loves that breed.


As for shooting off fireworks (the OP's main point)..nothing so terribly wrong with that...My Mexican neighbors love them!...although I got past that stage when my hearing started to fail... :rolleyes:

woody with a view - 11-4-2010 at 09:03 AM

go get 'em Marty! ever aimed at cats?:P

Tbone - 11-4-2010 at 09:20 AM

Well said Pampano, enjoy Marty

Woooosh - 11-4-2010 at 09:54 AM

all third world countries celebrate with fireworks to scare away the demons. Comes with the territory, literally.

DENNIS - 11-4-2010 at 09:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
all third world countries celebrate with fireworks to scare away the demons. Comes with the territory, literally.


The US uses them to verify PTSD. I've also noticed that new beds these days are built higher off the ground to accomodate the G.I.s who have returned from the Middle East. [that's a lie, but not a bad idea]

Pompano - 11-4-2010 at 09:59 AM



New York..Yes, a third world country if ever I saw one...literally.



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Woooosh - 11-4-2010 at 10:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano


New York..Yes, a third world country if ever I saw one...literally.

OK- All third world and some industrialized nations.

toneart - 11-4-2010 at 10:16 AM

I am aware that others think about this differently than I do. Roger, thank you for your input. I was not aware that coddling a fearful dog reinforces their fear.

Admittedly, my own aversion to noise colors my attitude, but the main reason for my post in this string is that it is difficult to watch my dog suffer from something he doesn't understand.

Of all the sensory pollutants, be it trash in yards or strewn along the highway, fat cottage cheesed-cellulite legs in mini skirts, or fart smells, noise is the one I really can't stand. I hate boomboxes and people who impose their "music" on others, too. If I ever snap and decide to take out a group of people, it would be noisemakers, and I would use one of their favorite noisemakers to do it.

There is room for all kinds of opinions and if you post them here you are going to get both approval and disapproval. That is OK with me.

Fact: not from some gun supply website

mcfez - 11-4-2010 at 10:22 AM

Geeze......we wear ear plugs when at the range . Wonder why the hell we do that?

From your gun supply website.........."Making loud noises, like banging that pot with a spoon while feeding him will also help..he will learn". I can't stop laughing after read this article you posted! Got the dog on a muzzle too?

Some reading for you hunters and rocketeers. From the Office of DOE Science Education and The Argonne National Laboratory.
Laura Hungerford, DVM, MPH, PhD
University of Nebraska


http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/vet00/vet00003.htm

In part of this link's explanation:

.........."Pain results from sounds that are
much louder than our threshold of hearing. Dogs could feel pain from
sounds that weren't painfully loud to us. Very loud sounds can hurt the
ears and if a sound seems too loud to you, it is probably more so to your dog.









[Edited on 11-4-2010 by mcfez]

Pompano - 11-4-2010 at 10:42 AM

..sigh..for a moment there I forgot ...

...this is the internet after all.

Time for poker! adios.. ;)

tiotomasbcs - 11-4-2010 at 11:33 AM

I hate Fireworks now that I'm a responsable adult!:no: Fireworks are usually accompanied by heavy drinking?!! Any correlation? San Miguel beach in Ensenada was famous for epic fireworks battles. :o Burning rubbish or trash is annoying, too! Once we lit a pre pre pared firepit, not by us, and suddenly a propane missle bottle blasted into outer space.:o Glad it was pointed up!:spingrin: Cuidado, Amigos Tio

Skipjack Joe - 11-4-2010 at 12:33 PM

Fireworks are for the young and most of us, alas, are no longer that. But a world without fireworks would be a sadder place. So I support the Mexican passion for fireworks most of the time and try to remember how it used to be.

But boomboxes in nature make me see red. :fire:

Mexicorn - 11-4-2010 at 12:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
I am aware that others think about this differently than I do. Roger, thank you for your input. I was not aware that coddling a fearful dog reinforces their fear.

Admittedly, my own aversion to noise colors my attitude, but the main reason for my post in this string is that it is difficult to watch my dog suffer from something he doesn't understand.

Of all the sensory pollutants, be it trash in yards or strewn along the highway, fat cottage cheesed-cellulite legs in mini skirts, or fart smells, noise is the one I really can't stand. I hate boomboxes and people who impose their "music" on others, too. If I ever snap and decide to take out a group of people, it would be noisemakers, and I would use one of their favorite noisemakers to do it.

There is room for all kinds of opinions and if you post them here you are going to get both approval and disapproval. That is OK with me.


All I read out of this is that you dont like farts.

DianaT - 11-4-2010 at 01:01 PM

Had an aunt and uncle who bred and rasied and trained hunting dogs for many, many years. Some dogs can get used to loud noises, and some cannot. They started VERY early with the puppies, and in every litter, there was at least one who would never get use to the noise. Those dogs were sold as pets.

We followed all the training "rules" with our one dog when he was a small puppy, and it did not work. He is terrified-----fireworks are not a problem around here, yet.

But some people don't care if their actions terrify dogs or other pets---afterall, they are just "animals" .

woody with a view - 11-4-2010 at 01:15 PM

i'm not an animal...... i'm a man!

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toneart - 11-4-2010 at 01:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mexicorn
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
I am aware that others think about this differently than I do. Roger, thank you for your input. I was not aware that coddling a fearful dog reinforces their fear.

Admittedly, my own aversion to noise colors my attitude, but the main reason for my post in this string is that it is difficult to watch my dog suffer from something he doesn't understand.

Of all the sensory pollutants, be it trash in yards or strewn along the highway, fat cottage cheesed-cellulite legs in mini skirts, or fart smells, noise is the one I really can't stand. I hate boomboxes and people who impose their "music" on others, too. If I ever snap and decide to take out a group of people, it would be noisemakers, and I would use one of their favorite noisemakers to do it.

There is room for all kinds of opinions and if you post them here you are going to get both approval and disapproval. That is OK with me.


All I read out of this is that you dont like farts.


Well, it is human nature to read into it what you want. I'm glad you caught my drift though. Happy to fulfill! :lol:

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by toneart]

LancairDriver - 11-4-2010 at 01:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Martyman
Passionate about the dogs are we. Hey, i like dogs too. Mine have never had problems with the noise. Lets see, I'm a sic (nice spelling) marooon. Had a terrible childhood, a troll and need to grow up. And (will be) trucked to the hospital.
It seems with all the therapy I've had, I should be further along. Do you guys always write such nasty things about people you've never met? Sounds like facebook.
No i don't aim skyrockets at dogs...jeez people.
Thanks for sticking up for me soulpatch and santiago. Glad you are my neighbors!
Did the rest of you just need to vent? Having a bad day are we? Hope you are feeling better.


Bravo- From the comments on the board looks like you accomplished your objective.

Mulegena - 11-4-2010 at 01:37 PM

"Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way." — Martin Luther King Jr.

Debra - 11-4-2010 at 01:47 PM

I am the owner of that dog "Kujo" (glad he didn't catch said rocket, I would have been more than pi**ed off) That said, Marty does warn us when he is lighting something off, that is more than I can say for others that were lighiing the dang things off at my cabin at 2am. :mad: :mad:

I'm not a big fan, and I know doggies hate them for the most part. Compromise is in the warning. I can't ask for more.

Cruel and Inhumane

Gypsy Jan - 11-4-2010 at 01:50 PM

Like the wiser ones above opined, I also hope this is just a troll posting, looking to provoke outraged commentary.

Firewoks, explosives, sirens -- imagine a .44 magnum being fired off next to your head.

We have chased lost dogs in the hills that fled their homes due to "celebrations". Nobody who was "celebrating" thought about the effect this would have.

And don't get me started on the quaint custom of shooting off firearms into the air; when the bullets come down, sometimes innocent people die--in their homes.

DENNIS - 11-4-2010 at 02:06 PM

Fireworks that fly around and leave trails of beautiful sparks are one thing. At least they are fun to watch.
I don't understand the bombs. What good are they? What vicarious thrill do they provide? What fantasies do they support? Is it a feeling of power....or dominance?
I just don't get it.

DENNIS - 11-4-2010 at 02:12 PM

This one makes sense: :saint:

http://borderviolenceanalysis.typepad.com/.a/6a011279457f122...

mcfez - 11-4-2010 at 02:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
This one makes sense: :saint:

http://borderviolenceanalysis.typepad.com/.a/6a011279457f122...


Your fishing rig? :o

DENNIS - 11-4-2010 at 02:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Your fishing rig? :o



When I was muuuuch younger up in Newport, we would use electric blasting caps for that. You know....the lite tackle sportsman model. :lol:

Pompano - 11-4-2010 at 02:27 PM

A dog's brain is fully developed at 7 weeks of age...Let's face it, he is not going to get any more brain capacity beyond that point. Rufus is as smart now as he's gonna get.

What you do with giving that DOG brain some learned behaviour from then on ...is up to you.

I start training my dogs at 49 days old...and keep on training foreverafter ... and I have never had a dog yet that shied from noise, be it hunter, family, or lap dog. I doubt I am just lucky...but hey, I could be at that. After all, I am in Baja, right?

It's not rocket science..and how good and what you do with learned behaviour is your decision...your responsibily as an dog/animal owner. If all fails, maybe the pooch will teach you....?

FIREWORKS!!

One of my fondest memories of fireworks was watching them from the front lawn of our lakeside cottage. My dad was out on the lake on a big raft... full of fireworks and a couple cronies. They put on a display that was seen ..and heard...for miles. Those skyrockets went arching up, up, up into the stratosphere I'm sure...the Oohhs and Ahhhs came with the floral starbursts and speckled carnations.

...then a wild screaming rocket would suddenly go zooming into the heavens at Mach 3......with a mighty....KA-BOOOOM! brought out the hoorays from the yard crowd....

.....ah, it was wondrous for small boy.



I went deaf at age nine...but smiled a lot...and still do. ;)

Tbone - 11-4-2010 at 02:56 PM

Great post. I love to see all the pet perps freek out about someone lighting a firework. It's the end of the world for some folks. Talk about someone being kidnaped or killed and they say you are a "Chicken Little" the sky is falling, but talk of lighting a firework and you are now the antichriest. It's not all about sunsets, cactus and fish tacos, it also includes parties, tequila, friends and letting loose.

DianaT - 11-4-2010 at 02:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
A dog's brain is fully developed at 7 weeks of age...Let's face it, he is not going to get any more brain capacity beyond that point. Rufus is as smart now as he's gonna get.

What you do with giving that DOG brain some learned behaviour from then on ...is up to you.

I start training my dogs at 49 days old...and keep on training foreverafter ... and I have never had a dog yet that shied from noise, be it hunter, family, or lap dog. I doubt I am just lucky...but hey, I could be at that. After all, I am in Baja, right?

It's not rocket science..and how good and what you do with learned behaviour is your decision...your responsibily as an dog/animal owner. If all fails, maybe the pooch will teach you....?



Well, I guess we now have the final word on the subject--

DENNIS - 11-4-2010 at 03:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Well, I guess we now have the final word on the subject--



What??? A final word on Nomad???
Never happen. :lol:

woody with a view - 11-4-2010 at 03:38 PM

word.

knuckles - 11-4-2010 at 03:42 PM

Yeah, the Nomads love their Dogs.....

Our 5 year old Pit bull (who is the greatest dog who ever lived ;D) just started getting scared of the fireworkes a few months ago. He quitely slinks to the back bathroom.

Any insight Roger?

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by knuckles]

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by knuckles]

Martyman - 11-4-2010 at 03:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tbone
Great post. I love to see all the pet perps freek out about someone lighting a firework. It's the end of the world for some folks. Talk about someone being kidnaped or killed and they say you are a "Chicken Little" the sky is falling, but talk of lighting a firework and you are now the antichriest. It's not all about sunsets, cactus and fish tacos, it also includes parties, tequila, friends and letting loose.


u da man tbone!

toneart - 11-4-2010 at 04:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by knuckles
Yeah, the Nomads love their Dogs.....

Our 5 year old Pit bull (who is the greatest dog who ever lived ;D) just started getting scared of the fireworkes a few months ago. He quitely slinks to the back bathroom.

Any insight Roger?

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by knuckles]

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by knuckles]


Roger is going to tell you to bite your Pitbull and don't let him get away with that slinky sh*t.:rolleyes::lol:

knuckles - 11-4-2010 at 04:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
Quote:
Originally posted by knuckles
Yeah, the Nomads love their Dogs.....

Our 5 year old Pit bull (who is the greatest dog who ever lived ;D) just started getting scared of the fireworkes a few months ago. He quitely slinks to the back bathroom.

Any insight Roger?

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by knuckles]

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by knuckles]


Roger is going to tell you to bite your Pitbull and don't let him get away with that slinky sh*t.:rolleyes::lol:


Well I wouldnt have to "coddle and reassure" If the buttcracks would grow up and stop playing with dangerous and annoying toys! :mad: These guys are lighting them off in the condo tower off the balconies. Think really big echo. You would think they would get a talking to from the ......get ready for it.....HOA:lol:

[Edited on 11-4-2010 by knuckles]

Pompano - 11-4-2010 at 04:39 PM

Ciao ragazzi, this me, Co-Pilot, not mi know-it-all-things Pompeino.

I write for you these thoughts.

Questa è l'ultima parola.


.."word"...

Capito?



Ciao baci baci...

RichBaja - 11-4-2010 at 04:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Let off that crap around my dog and you'll be trucked to the hospital.



LOL Dennis. You big tough guy that is looking for a hug. To whom do you go after when there is thunder in the sky? Dogs freak out even more at that.

My beef here:

mcfez - 11-4-2010 at 05:27 PM

'.....I loves me skyrockets! Some dog owners do not like me. I try to announce that small explosions will be happening to whoever may be around. The way I see it...the more loud explosions dogs are exposed to, the more they'll get used to it. "


This guy has had issues with the neighbors over the dogs in the past. He therefor understands the dog's owner concerns. Most likely witnessed the dog's(s) discomforts. Yet...he don't give a rat's a--- about the situation.

"....Maybe I'm wrong"?
Just hoping that the majority of BN's agrees with him to justify his anti social behavior.

Pompano....I dont know who you are. You seem to be always very positive and intellect on this BNB. I seriously doubt that you are a sort of guy that would blast rockets if you saw the neighbor's dog going crazy.

I'm going back to the card game................

[Edited on 11-5-2010 by mcfez]

mcfez - 11-4-2010 at 05:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RichBaja
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Let off that crap around my dog and you'll be trucked to the hospital.



LOL Dennis. You big tough guy that is looking for a hug. To whom do you go after when there is thunder in the sky? Dogs freak out even more at that.


I got a feeling that if Dennis approached you...you stick your tail in between your legs :o

DanO - 11-4-2010 at 06:14 PM

In the interest of full disclosure, you should all be advised that there is a distinct possibility that approximately one hour after sunset on November 11, 12 or 13, 2010, some explosions may occur in the air above La Bocana de Santo Tomas. There is also a distinct possibility of pretty colors occurring at the same time and place. This is neither a threat nor a promise, only a warning of the possibility of a potential event which may or may not happen.

No dogs and few if any humans other than those precipitating the potential event are predicted to be in the vicinity and if the potential event occurs, every precaution will be taken to protect any sensitive individuals present from harm or offense. Such protective measures shall include, but not be limited to, ear plugs or noise canceling headphones, soothing massage (not accupressure, which really hurts afterward), all the warm milk you can drink, aromatherapy, tons of smooth jazz, a raffle ticket for the door prize which I believe is a case of bubble wrap, a free year of psychoanalysis, and a guest spot on Dr. Phil or Oprah. If you were expecting hookers, forget it. This is a family operation.

These protective measures shall NOT be made available to any lizards, spiders, bats, starfish, mice, beetles, ground squirrels, sea urchins, mosquitoes, rattlesnakes, cattle, army patrols, shallow-swimming fish, butterflies, sparrows, crabs, kangaroo rats, flies, breaching dolphins, seals and/or sea lions, centipedes, vultures, frogs and/or toads, goats, mussels, census takers, tarantula hawks and their prey, rabbits, illegal aliens, scorpions, coyotes, gophers, ants (especially red ones), quail, crayfish, sand fleas, mud hens, drunken fishermen or DOPERS who may be in or wander into the area. They're on their own. If you fall into one of these categories and can read English, consider yourself warned, dude.

No animals or hookers were harmed in the creation of this message.

That is all.

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

bajabass - 11-4-2010 at 06:32 PM

I truly am pleased to know that no hookers will be harmed!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Oh, will the whales be safe??
:?::?:

estebanis - 11-4-2010 at 10:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Co-Pilot wants a boxer..she loves that breed.


Hey Pompano,
Does that breed point or does it retrive? Maybe you can sell her on a good ol' Italian Spinone I have a pal that breeds them...:bounce:

DanO - 11-4-2010 at 11:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajabass
I truly am pleased to know that no hookers will be harmed!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Oh, will the whales be safe??
:?::?:

That is no surprise.

[Edited on 11-5-2010 by DanO]

Cypress - 11-5-2010 at 04:26 AM

Pompano, Had two or three Boxers. Great breed! Could not throw firecrackers near a female boxer we owned, she would actually snap them up, one of went of in her mouth, didn't seem to have any effect, of course it was only a small firecracker, not one of those M-80's or cherry bombs.

Pompano - 11-5-2010 at 05:59 AM

Cypress...I like boxers as much as I like all breeds. They just don't quite fit into my style of duck blind....

... but then I don't think Co-Pilot has hunting in mind. :rolleyes:

Her house dog in Rome was a boxer..and she misses him.

I miss my first dog, Blacky...a water spaniel.

Cypress - 11-5-2010 at 10:47 AM

Pompano, I see a boxer in your future.:lol:

toneart - 11-5-2010 at 10:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
Pompano, I see a boxer in your future.:lol:


He'd better, or else he may not have a future in his boxer shorts. :o:lol:

DENNIS - 11-5-2010 at 11:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
He'd better, or else he may not have a future in his boxer shorts. :o:lol:



A Boxer Rebellion ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion

Pompano - 11-5-2010 at 11:07 AM

Just as long as it's not....WHEW...

BARBARA BOXER!! ....

DENNIS - 11-5-2010 at 11:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Just as long as it's not....WHEW...

BARBARA BOXER!! ....


Scarey thought. I'll bet she dives under the bed when she hears, "Bang."
Oh, well...I'm sure that's better than diving INTO the bed. Somebody is being spared a terrible fate. :lol:

Cypress - 11-5-2010 at 11:13 AM

When Mama (Co-Pilot) is happy, everybody's happy!;D Pompano will be petting a little Boxer pup soon. They can be taught to retrieve, but cold water might be a problem. They're sorta of a warm blooded breed. Had one that would actually dive under water to retrieve stuff. Stayed under so long one time that I thought a gator had got it.;D

toneart - 11-5-2010 at 11:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
He'd better, or else he may not have a future in his boxer shorts. :o:lol:



A Boxer Rebellion ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion


Hit the link and scroll down to Imperial Muslim Army...

There was a Muslim martial artist named Wang and a Chinese Muslim General named Dong.

David Letterman used to talk about having "a party in his pants",
but a full blown Boxer Rebellion? :wow:

No wonder those puppies are afraid of fireworks!:lol:

[Edited on 11-5-2010 by toneart]

Martyman - 11-5-2010 at 12:27 PM

Everybody Wang Chung tonight!

Pompano - 11-5-2010 at 01:25 PM



Who can resist these guys?

Cypress - 11-5-2010 at 02:53 PM

That picture almost makes me want to get another Boxer pup. But, when I think of all the other aspects of having one, a loving pet, a protective pet, a damn good dog....Jeez! Makes me want to have another Boxer!:bounce:

ILikeMex - 11-5-2010 at 03:08 PM

Within the subject of dog training, how do you get a dog (lab) to stop digging in the landscape and chewing up plants?

DENNIS - 11-5-2010 at 03:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ILikeMex
Within the subject of dog training, how do you get a dog (lab) to stop digging in the landscape and chewing up plants?



Oh..hahaha...there's nothing to it. I'm a Vet in Beverly Hills and what I do is cut off their feet and pull their teeth.
Guaranteed results and I charge a shtload for my services 'cause I'm really good.

Love your animal more than yourself. That's what they do for you.

ILikeMex - 11-5-2010 at 04:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by ILikeMex
Within the subject of dog training, how do you get a dog (lab) to stop digging in the landscape and chewing up plants?



Oh..hahaha...there's nothing to it. I'm a Vet in Beverly Hills and what I do is cut off their feet and pull their teeth.
Guaranteed results and I charge a shtload for my services 'cause I'm really good.

Love your animal more than yourself. That's what they do for you.


So it does it because its mad at me becuase I don't love it enough? I do not love animals more than myself or other people.
Anyone else have a helpful versus smartass comment?

Pompano - 11-5-2010 at 04:12 PM

I do..but ah is skeered to answer anymore..

Electric Fence

Gypsy Jan - 11-5-2010 at 04:17 PM

First off, talk to your vet and get an opinion.

That being said, we have had great success with an electric fence that delivers a mild shock conveyed by battery to a thin wire defining the area where you don't want your dog(s) to go.

BUT, do not put it up and just assume that it will do the job on its own. Supervise your dogs primary encounters to make sure they are safe and to offer negative verbal reinforcement when they encounter the fence.

In our experience, it only took a couple of times before all the puppies learned to avoid the wire. The wire is still up, but we disconnected the battery years ago.

DENNIS - 11-5-2010 at 04:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
I do..but ah is skeered to answer anymore..



Yeah....something took all the fun out of it.

toneart - 11-5-2010 at 04:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ILikeMex
Within the subject of dog training, how do you get a dog (lab) to stop digging in the landscape and chewing up plants?


I just googled your question under: Dog behavior digging

There is a lot there. Go read!

Is your dog a puppy? If so, it will be easier to stop his digging.

My dog has dug 2 holes on the north side of the house, NOT next to the foundation. Then he sits in them on hot days. Sometimes I squirt water in the holes to keep him comfortable. He wouldn't use the Igloo Dog House that I got a few years ago. These holes are not in landscaped areas and for me, they do no harm.

He also buries bones but he tries to do this out of my sight and not in landscaped areas.

I am lucky in that he seems to instinctively know to not dig in the garden.

The basic rule for dog training is to provide alternative interests and activities. Give the dog plenty of exercise and sufficient time with you. Reinforcement is needed; consistently say "no" for bad behavior and take him to an alternate area where digging is OK. Provide loose dirt and maybe some intriguing smells where it is OK to dig. Reward him when he complies.

Toneart and Jan - Contributing Funkillers

Gypsy Jan - 11-5-2010 at 04:34 PM

Oh well, we can't help ourselves can we?

I would rather bore someone (alledgedly human) to death than let a decent opportunity to answer a serious inquiry about dog behavior go unanswered or get lost in chatter clutter.

mtgoat666 - 11-5-2010 at 04:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ILikeMex
Within the subject of dog training, how do you get a dog (lab) to stop digging in the landscape and chewing up plants?


just give up, and consider replanting when the dog has grown older and mellower :lol:

another solution: plant cactus and thorny vegetation (such vegetation fits the baja theme).

from my experience, when our dogs could run free (neighborhood with no fences or leash law), they never used plants as chew toys, but living in smaller yard with fence, they get bored and chew anything.

most dogs like to dig holes, why ya wanna deprive him/her of that fun?

when you picked a lab, did you think he/she was not gonna chew and dig everything? that big dog needs to let his energy out. perhaps you could trade your dog for a teacup poodle?

Cypress - 11-5-2010 at 05:04 PM

Sprinkle some black pepper in the area. It'll give him the sneezes!:D

Skipjack Joe - 11-5-2010 at 05:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano

Ciao ragazzi, this me, Co-Pilot, not mi know-it-all-things Pompeino.


Roger, perhaps she thinks your true ancestry is from Pompey.

I love the Italian language. So beautiful.

I recall a friend of the family who always addressed her husband as - 'Fiore'. He was a big hulking man, but to her he was 'Fiore'.

Cypress - 11-6-2010 at 11:17 AM

And if the black pepper doesn't work, put a "whooping" on that mutt.:yes:

RichBaja - 11-6-2010 at 02:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Quote:
Originally posted by RichBaja
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Let off that crap around my dog and you'll be trucked to the hospital.



LOL Dennis. You big tough guy that is looking for a hug. To whom do you go after when there is thunder in the sky? Dogs freak out even more at that.


I got a feeling that if Dennis approached you...you stick your tail in between your legs :o


Beyond unlikely, Iw ould give him a big hug and then put him in time out.

Mexicorn - 11-6-2010 at 06:25 PM

Hug a Pug!:biggrin:

dtutko1 - 11-8-2010 at 07:51 AM

Wow, N-zis to Dog Whisperers. I love BajaNomads