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Anyone ever see this happen?

sanquintinsince73 - 11-14-2010 at 11:53 PM

You are kidding right? Rehabilitation? What you witnessed was a kidnapping. I think you've been reading to many Nancy Drew mysteries.

[Edited on 11-15-2010 by sanquintinsince73]

jeremias - 11-15-2010 at 12:03 AM

detox at our facility with the help of masked ak-47 wielding commandos..... sounds a like a new reality show.

JESSE - 11-15-2010 at 01:53 AM

sounds like cartel men to me

permission to "kidnap"

mcfez - 11-15-2010 at 07:05 AM

It happens here in the States...parents hiring out to retrieve their kid from a "Jim Jones" situation. But....not with 12 men fully armed goons. Maybe 3-4.

DENNIS - 11-15-2010 at 08:06 AM

You should hope you don't run into those people who gave you that BS excuse again. They obviously know what's happening.

BooJumMan - 11-15-2010 at 08:48 AM

Wow. That's a pretty scary story... :?:

ckiefer - 11-15-2010 at 09:15 AM

Holy cow! :o And here I thought that threatening my kids by telling them I'd enroll them in parochial school if they didn't shape up was bad!

New age "tough love"????

Woooosh - 11-15-2010 at 09:40 AM

The "c-ckroach effect" is in full gear for Rosarito. The green-eyed Sinaloas are all over the place now. The leaders started moving into the area with their families six or so months ago. The main bulk of them were grouping nearer to Ensenada but with the gov't changing over here in two weeks- they don't have much to fear from the police by making public displays like this. No new police Captain for Rosarito has been announced. If Tito doesn't retain Capt. Montero, or hire someone strong like him- Rosarito could be lost to the Sinaloas and the c-ckroaches could stay closer to the border- which is where they want to be, although Ensenada and all points north is all good for their drug, gun, money and people moving business .

[Edited on 11-15-2010 by Woooosh]

k-rico - 11-15-2010 at 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
The green-eyed Sinaloas are all over the place now. The leaders started moving into the area with their families six or so months ago.


I'd like to know more about this. Do you have any links to news articles? Does this spell trouble for the AFO?

Woooosh - 11-15-2010 at 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
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Originally posted by Woooosh
The green-eyed Sinaloas are all over the place now. The leaders started moving into the area with their families six or so months ago.


I'd like to know more about this. Do you have any links to news articles? Does this spell trouble for the AFO?

There is no news being released out of Rosarito, and there hasn't been any for a few months. Not even when the Police Captain was suspended twice in the past month by the Sindicatura for stupid stuff given the security situation. What you will see in place of news is first-hand reports like this one that play to people worst fears about the future here.

In the absence of direct news, one TJ news story had one line about replacing the "retired" Police Captain Montero. A few weeks back the former police Captain was killed and his wife injured. He was the guy who arranged the huge shooting at the police station a few years back intended to kill Capt. Montero.

sanquintinsince73 - 11-15-2010 at 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
The "c-ckroach effect" is in full gear for Rosarito. The green-eyed Sinaloas are all over the place now. The leaders started moving into the area with their families six or so months ago. The main bulk of them were grouping nearer to Ensenada but with the gov't changing over here in two weeks- they don't have much to fear from the police by making public displays like this. No new police Captain for Rosarito has been announced. If Tito doesn't retain Capt. Montero, or hire someone strong like him- Rosarito could be lost to the Sinaloas and the c-ckroaches could stay closer to the border- which is where they want to be, although Ensenada and all points north is all good for their drug, gun, money and people moving business .

[Edited on 11-15-2010 by Woooosh]

Bad thing is that you take out one of those amoebas and 10 more appear. They really should covertly, hire the folks at Blackwater to go clean house. Hell, give me my old M-16 and a couple cases of 5.56........

k-rico - 11-15-2010 at 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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Originally posted by Woooosh
The "c-ckroach effect" is in full gear for Rosarito. The green-eyed Sinaloas are all over the place now. The leaders started moving into the area with their families six or so months ago. The main bulk of them were grouping nearer to Ensenada but with the gov't changing over here in two weeks- they don't have much to fear from the police by making public displays like this. No new police Captain for Rosarito has been announced. If Tito doesn't retain Capt. Montero, or hire someone strong like him- Rosarito could be lost to the Sinaloas and the c-ckroaches could stay closer to the border- which is where they want to be, although Ensenada and all points north is all good for their drug, gun, money and people moving business .

[Edited on 11-15-2010 by Woooosh]

Bad thing is that you take out one of those amoebas and 10 more appear. They really should covertly, hire the folks at Blackwater to go clean house. Hell, give me my old M-16 and a couple cases of 5.56........


Hmmmm, you say if you take them out more appear and then offer as a solution to this problem a method to take them out. :?:

BajaBruno - 11-15-2010 at 11:25 AM

While reading bajaeng's description, I was trying to imagine what the average patrol cop in the US would do if s/he saw this happen. Certainly not jump out with their .40 pistol and yell, "Stop!" Maybe follow them until the patrol car was filled with holes from those assault rifles? How many patrol cars would have to be assembled to safely stop several cars full of men in body armor and armed with AK-47's?

It is easy to see how intractable the Mexican situation is when we imagine it in the US and ask how we would deal with it.

sanquintinsince73 - 11-15-2010 at 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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Originally posted by Woooosh
The "c-ckroach effect" is in full gear for Rosarito. The green-eyed Sinaloas are all over the place now. The leaders started moving into the area with their families six or so months ago. The main bulk of them were grouping nearer to Ensenada but with the gov't changing over here in two weeks- they don't have much to fear from the police by making public displays like this. No new police Captain for Rosarito has been announced. If Tito doesn't retain Capt. Montero, or hire someone strong like him- Rosarito could be lost to the Sinaloas and the c-ckroaches could stay closer to the border- which is where they want to be, although Ensenada and all points north is all good for their drug, gun, money and people moving business .

[Edited on 11-15-2010 by Woooosh]

Bad thing is that you take out one of those amoebas and 10 more appear. They really should covertly, hire the folks at Blackwater to go clean house. Hell, give me my old M-16 and a couple cases of 5.56........


Hmmmm, you say if you take them out more appear and then offer as a solution to this problem a method to take them out. :?:

What part of that don't you understand?

Woooosh - 11-15-2010 at 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by BajaBruno
While reading bajaeng's description, I was trying to imagine what the average patrol cop in the US would do if s/he saw this happen. Certainly not jump out with their .40 pistol and yell, "Stop!" Maybe follow them until the patrol car was filled with holes from those assault rifles? How many patrol cars would have to be assembled to safely stop several cars full of men in body armor and armed with AK-47's?

It is easy to see how intractable the Mexican situation is when we imagine it in the US and ask how we would deal with it.

Spraying bullets both directions on the busiest street in Rosarito would have made the news somewhere. The Rosarito police aren't armed or trained for that- it would have to be a military operation. I'll bet dollars to donuts if a cop had been present- he would have been shot.

Wasn't there a bank robbery in LA a few years back where the police were totally outgunned and didn't have a chance? Same thing here- those were on a specific mission, it was too much firepower to be a kidnapping for profit and nothing would have stopped it. The Police or Tourist Police present would only have made the situation worse for everyone around the area, including Bajaeng. (And laying low in an unarmored car is pretty much like being out in the open when it comes to AK47 rounds that penetrate everything).

DENNIS - 11-15-2010 at 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBruno
While reading bajaeng's description, I was trying to imagine what the average patrol cop in the US would do if s/he saw this happen.


Could possibly have been the police....moonlighting.

mtgoat666 - 11-15-2010 at 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by bajaeng
Last week in Rosarito, right in the middle of what's left of the tourist zone, several cars suddenly (out of nowhere) converged at an intersection, and about 12 masked men in full body armor and automatic weapons drawn all rushed out towards a car they had blocked. I was literally a few feet away from one of the cars and I just hit the deck thinking there was going to be a shootout or something ... then I scampered into a nearby store to get out of the way ... then we hear tires squealing and the group of cars speeding off in different directions. All of this happened in less than a minute and these guys were pros ... they didn't appear to be police, and the cars they used were just everyday ones pretty well beaten. (yes, this incident scarred the h out of me)

Nothing was ever mentioned in any of the papers and I've been asking around thinking it was a kidnapping or even a high profile arrest ...

Today I finally ran into some people who heard of the incident and they say it was a group that rehabilitates troubled teens who are deemed a lost cause by their parents and they give them permission to "kidnap" their troubled kids and forcibly admitted into a paramilitary style drug rehab. Any one else ever see or hear of such a thing?


sounds like a kidnapping or a hit. the story about intervention for troubled teen is fantasy or wishful thinking. commando raids are not the way you "abduct" a dope addict for treatment.

DENNIS - 11-15-2010 at 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
commando raids are not the way you "abduct" a dope addict for treatment.


How is it done?

sanquintinsince73 - 11-15-2010 at 01:49 PM

There is a group home here stateside for troubled teens who will send out a unarmed "commando unit" of non-peace officers for your uncooperative teen at home. They are then taken to the group home and intervened. We were going to use this method for my step-daughter when she was acting a fool a few years back but it runs like $6k per month to stay there. I fixed her on my own and she is now working and going to college.

ckiefer - 11-15-2010 at 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
There is a group home here stateside for troubled teens who will send out a unarmed "commando unit" of non-peace officers for your uncooperative teen at home. They are then taken to the group home and intervened. We were going to use this method for my step-daughter when she was acting a fool a few years back but it runs like $6k per month to stay there. I fixed her on my own and she is now working and going to college.


That's a whole lot of money! Bet you're proud of your and her accomplishments! Good for you! :yes:

mcfez - 11-15-2010 at 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
There is a group home here stateside for troubled teens who will send out a unarmed "commando unit" of non-peace officers for your uncooperative teen at home. They are then taken to the group home and intervened. We were going to use this method for my step-daughter when she was acting a fool a few years back but it runs like $6k per month to stay there. I fixed her on my own and she is now working and going to college.


You didnt fix her...you saved her life! My hat is off to you Sir sanquintinsince

"commando unit" is a great idea for kids that are swimming in the sewer.