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DENNIS - 11-22-2010 at 06:19 PM

Something was nagging me about today's date, then it came to me. The anniversary of the assassination of JFK in 1963.
Jeeeezo....47 years ago.
RIP

Bajahowodd - 11-22-2010 at 06:38 PM

I absolutely recall that. I was still in high school. But, sad as it was, later on, I got hooked up into the Bobby Kennedy campaign. I was absolutely positive that RFK was going to make this country great. I was at the Ambassador that night. Far from the inner circle. If anything, one might wonder if there was a connection between these two tragic events. Whither goest our nation?

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tiotomasbcs - 11-22-2010 at 06:46 PM

Wood, you were at the Ambassador?!! People had faith in their candidates, then. Ronald Regan was already an old, Hollywood B Movie hero, not! Now, all we have are billionaires and Corporations. Let's all pray! I'm hidin out in my little hole!! Tio :yes:

mcfez - 11-22-2010 at 06:58 PM

Just asked my 15 year old son...if anything was said today in class(s) about the anniversary of the assassination of JFK. No. Nothing. Nada.

....and he attends a college prep school!

I forgot too I must say. JFK was a gift

vandenberg - 11-22-2010 at 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by tiotomasbcs
Now, all we have is billionaires Tio :yes:

Instead of the poverty struck Kennedys. :biggrin:

BajaBlanca - 11-22-2010 at 07:38 PM

We had a guest 3 weeks ago who was related to the Kennedy's. And she now lives in La Jolla. Small world. Sad day in history

BajaGringo - 11-22-2010 at 07:46 PM

I will never forget the day as they shuffled us out into the school yard and announced to us what had just happened. Can't believe how much time has passed...

Skipjack Joe - 11-22-2010 at 07:48 PM

I heard it in the garden from the neighbors radio who had left his window open. It made no sense. Assassinations weren't supposed to happen in this country. It just wasn't right.

You Just Never KNOW .................

MrBillM - 11-22-2010 at 07:59 PM

When things are Bad, How much WORSE they can get.

IF Oswald had known how Lyndon would turn out, he "might" have changed his mind. Assuming he actually did it.

Pompano - 11-22-2010 at 08:49 PM

I was shooting a rooster in a South Dakota cornfield row next to the car..and heard it on the radio. A very clear memory still. I shook his hand when he lectured my freshman class..and wept with the news of his death....and I was a Republican even then.

tripledigitken - 11-22-2010 at 08:57 PM

The day is etched in my memory as well. I was coming in from gym class and as we walked by the ROTC office they were lowering the flag.

Ken

Paulina - 11-22-2010 at 09:20 PM

I was sitting on the back of my grandmother's couch. We were playing beauty parlor, I was doing her hair. I remember her crying quietly as I combed out her hair, while Walter Cronkite announced his death. I didn't understand. I was only two years old, but I remember it.

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Natalie Ann - 11-22-2010 at 09:26 PM

I was listening to the radio with my mom, who was ironing.
I remember the sound of the announcer's voice, as though he was in a dream. My mom went completely still. Suddenly I felt like a very small child and sat on the floor underneath the sheet my mom had been ironing.

nena

motoged - 11-22-2010 at 09:26 PM

I remembered the importance of the date as I was opening my appointment calendar this morning: ....it was a cool sunny morning in Manitoba....I was in grade 7....it had a strong impact on Canadians as well

krafty - 11-22-2010 at 10:58 PM

Let out early in 2nd grade and my bus driver was crying-noone had told us-he did and we did not believe him-got home and my mom was crying-and crying-and crying.

BajaBruno - 11-23-2010 at 12:04 AM

I was going to mention this in class tonight. College students are so out of touch with history. I wanted to describe how the principal called a fire drill and we all lined up in the parking lot in neat rows as the teachers made their counts to make sure everyone was present. Then the principal come out and announced that the president had been killed and the school was closing. We all went home.

Everything closed: schools, businesses, government offices. Sacramento was like a ghost town if anyone had gone out to see, but no one did. Everyone was home, grieving for the nation. I seem to recall that the networks stopped programming, as it just didn’t seem appropriate to laugh with a variety show under the circumstances, but the memory of a 10 year old may be faulty.

We watched in black and white as a weary Walter Cronkite stayed on long past his shift and reported the tragedy with the even-handed facts and compassion for which he has become famous. Today’s college kids would likely find Cronkite-style reporting boring and turn the channel to the screamers. Those bullets struck all of us, though only one physically died.

I meant to say all of that, but the lab ran over and time ran out and I never had the chance. Maybe it is for the best—I like to end class on a high note.

Everybody Remembers

MrBillM - 11-23-2010 at 09:20 AM

But, NO Tears. Not mine and not any of my friends. One member of my family (paternal grandmother-1st Generation Irish-American Catholic Cur-Dog Democrat). She told me it was the fault of people like me who generated so much hatred for Jacko. Wouldn't talk to me after that for quite awhile, but she got over it.

The worst part of the whole business was the TOTAL Blackout of any other TV coverage. While early on the event was interesting, it got boring and, in those pre-cable days, there weren't many choices.

There was a lot of post-pop hope among our crowd, but that was dashed by his successor.

Pompano - 11-23-2010 at 09:26 AM

I think you missed the point of JFK's popularity and why most all US citizens and the rest of the world liked him.

He was part of everyone's dream...Camelot and all.
Who cared what his politics or abilities were?

But maybe that was just me...and a few of mi amigos. Hey, I had long hair and played a damn banjo.

DENNIS - 11-23-2010 at 09:28 AM

I believe the signicance of the incident has evolved from the fact that we lost a very popular president and man.
What history, from the moment of his murder to the present day, has illustrated is that violent death can be an expected method of showing dissent. "If you don't like the man, just kill him."
We've gone a long way backwards.

Pompano - 11-23-2010 at 09:31 AM

Sadly, you are right, Dennis. More's the pity.

DENNIS - 11-23-2010 at 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano

Who cared what his politics or abilities were?

I know what you mean, Roger, but the Cuban Missle Crisis showed the world he was much more than just a pretty face.

I Cared !

MrBillM - 11-23-2010 at 09:51 AM

1960 was my First Election where I was involved as a participant.

As a concerned and involved High-School student with an obsessive interest in World politics who worked after school at the Nixon precinct headquarters and walked the neighborhoods in Inglewood handing out campaign literature, I considered JFK's politics the MOST important thing.

And, a danger to our Liberty.

As to the Cuban missile crisis, a little education might be in order. The Russians ended up cleaning our clock on that one. What we gave away (some of it in secret) to get them to back down was pitiful.

Lastly, the "Popular" monarch was in Dallas trying to mend fences in the South because of political setbacks in '62 and the real possibility that there would be far worse losses in '64.

On that point, you can say it WORKED. His southern replacement did just fine for the Dems in '64 and carried a lot along with him.

Not so good for the rest of us.

Pompano - 11-23-2010 at 09:56 AM

Now I know what Pandora's Box is....adios from me.

mcfez - 11-23-2010 at 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano

He was part of everyone's dream...Camelot and all.
Who cared what his politics or abilities were?

If I am correct...
Pompano was referring to JFK as a man...not his politics. Right?

JFK the MAN ?

MrBillM - 11-23-2010 at 02:42 PM

Well, at least if you're going to cheat on your wife, he did set a standard by Shagging Marilyn Monroe and a few other (as far as we know) fairly good-looking babes.

Unlike Skank-Shagger Wanker Willie

Not knowing the details, perhaps the Catholics have a higher Moral standard than Baptists when it comes to Adultery.

Have to check with the Pope on that one, I guess.

mtgoat666 - 11-23-2010 at 03:03 PM

MrBileM:
i pity your neighbor, your children, your wife and your dogs.

Bajahowodd - 11-23-2010 at 03:50 PM

But we don't appear to be able to learn from history. Dennis made a good point about the violence in our society and how it just seems all to easy to lash out physically against those who do not share your views. Regardless of where anyone stands on politics, I worry about what has happened in the past two years with respect to Obama. Maybe we'll never know the truth about JFK's assassination. But as we can see by Mr. Bile's posts, a combination of JFK's political agenda, his private behavior, and his Catholicism, appears to have been a contributing factor.

Now lately comes Obama. A perfect storm brewing. People and sadly media pundits on outlets like Faux news, claiming he's a foreigner, a Muslim, a communist, a fascist. And underlying those issues it the undeniable reality that racism is still pervasive in our society. So, to many he IS different. Just look at him.

I was crushed when JFK, RFK, and MLK were assassinated. I don't want to have to witness another. Seems to me that at least the media could tone it down a bit.

wessongroup - 11-23-2010 at 05:17 PM

Not sure we lost all that much, if ya mean the missiles they pulled out of Turkey.. we still had a bunch in Germany (that would be nukes) and a few other places... around the area... at that time...

But, must say was glad when they took us down from "yellow" and all the tanks on the east German border pulled back ... it did look for a bit, like the ballon was going up...

Must say one thing about JFK.. what a talker.... killer speech.. Ich bin ein Berliner

[Edited on 11-24-2010 by wessongroup]

Cypress - 11-23-2010 at 05:22 PM

I pray no fool attempts to assassinate Obama. Wishing him a long life, just like Jimmy Carter. Obama is a political albatross.

Ich bin ein Berliner

MrBillM - 11-23-2010 at 06:34 PM

While I called JFK quite a few different things before they Boxed him up in Dallas, a "Jelly Donut" wasn't one of them.

But, if that's what he wanted to be, OK.

mojo_norte - 11-23-2010 at 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBillM
Well, at least if you're going to cheat on your wife, he did set a standard by Shagging Marilyn Monroe and a few other (as far as we know) fairly good-looking babes.

Unlike Skank-Shagger Wanker Willie

Not knowing the details, perhaps the Catholics have a higher Moral standard than Baptists when it comes to Adultery.

Have to check with the Pope on that one, I guess.

"Ich bin ein Idiot" - MrBillM

mojo_norte - 11-23-2010 at 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pompano
Now I know what Pandora's Box is....adios from me.

adios from me aussi... need to get South ..

Marc - 11-23-2010 at 07:28 PM

I was in New york City having coffee with my uncle. We were watching TV when the news broke and of course we were glued to the thing for days. I was 21 at the time and a Navy veteran. I caught a glance of JFK a week or two before when he rode by in a motorcade one night down fifth Avenue.

My oldest daughter was born on November 22. 1966. How is it time goes so fast?

Bajajorge - 11-24-2010 at 11:18 AM

The only Democrat I ever trusted.

Terry28 - 11-24-2010 at 11:46 AM

Mr. Bill, you continue to rule the roost as the resident buttcrack....

capn.sharky - 11-24-2010 at 09:35 PM

I still think there was a conspiracy with Johnson at the head of it. Never would have let Jack Ruby get that close to Oswald---unless????

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MrBillM - 11-25-2010 at 10:56 AM

As often said, you are known by your enemies and I always find it rewarding to be disliked by those whom I would consider one of the Enemy. My Thanksgiving day has been enhanced by knowing that I am still disliked by the LeftyLoutSide.

Somebody has to do the job.

And, offsetting the Rosy-Pink Glasses through which Giddy Lefties viewed the Jack Regime is a necessary and worthy endeavor.

Looking at it all objectively, Dallas was probably the best thing that could have happened to the "Camelot" Legacy. Just as Artists and Authors are much more appreciated after their demise, Jacko's Martyrdom exit has created an aura totally at odds with the actual (heavily-Flawed) person and (Crass) politician who was bound to disappoint the Left as he made the necessary (Clintonesque) moves to forestall Dem disaster in 1964.

It was something of a win-win for the Dem Left. They have an idol to idolize and Uncle Lyndon ended up giving them more "Great" Socialism than they could ever hope for.

There "Might" be those who look at it differently.

Just a difference of opinion.