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South Dakota Plates?? Does it work?

halcyondays - 12-6-2010 at 06:18 PM

We live in Oregon and have a 1990 Chevy v6 S10 that would be a decent little truck for Baja.

Two questions.

1. any transport companies who will tow it there for us? Just curious.

2. If we register in South Dakota can we just have Mexican insurance and not any US insurance? Just keep the SD registration up right?

Thanks

DENNIS - 12-6-2010 at 08:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by halcyondays
We live in Oregon and have a 1990 Chevy v6 S10 that would be a decent little truck for Baja.

Two questions.

1. any transport companies who will tow it there for us? Just curious.

2. If we register in South Dakota can we just have Mexican insurance and not any US insurance? Just keep the SD registration up right?

Thanks



There are restrictions against towing cars or trucks through the border. Look into that.
Just drive it through if you can.

Yes for #2. Just get liability on the beater. I do that and I sometimes use the truck for trips to the states. I buy short term US insurance here...one or two days etc.

Udo - 12-6-2010 at 08:10 PM

Halcyondays...
send me a U2U and I'll detail the insnouts of South Dakota.

DENNIS - 12-6-2010 at 08:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Udo
Halcyondays...
send me a U2U and I'll detail the insnouts of South Dakota.


And here's the site to get you started:

http://www.claycountysd.org/

vandenberg - 12-6-2010 at 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

And here's the site to get you started:

http://www.claycountysd.org/


And ...believe it... they actually answer the phone in person.

No .... press one for english.:no::no::biggrin:

bajalou - 12-6-2010 at 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by vandenberg
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS

And here's the site to get you started:

http://www.claycountysd.org/


And ...believe it... they actually answer the phone in person.

No .... press one for english.:no::no::biggrin:


And it's often the County Treasurer herself that answers.

DENNIS - 12-6-2010 at 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by bajalou
And it's often the County Treasurer herself that answers.



It is. She answered my call. Takes you back in time about fifty years.

bajalou - 12-6-2010 at 09:19 PM

I've been doing this for about 10 years and it's a real pleasure talking to the staff there. Such great service and helpfulness. Thinking of taking a road trip up there just to say "Howdy" and "Thanks".

Another South Dakota anecdote

oladulce - 12-7-2010 at 11:31 AM

My husb and i got SD driver's license on the same day last year before we moved to Baja. I just noticed that his DL expires in 2015 and mine in 2014 which would be very inconvenient to have to make 2 trips there come renewal time.

Just to make sure there wasn't an error, I thought what the heck, I'll send an email to the DL dept. Lo and behold, the next day I got a response from a nice lady who said that because of one month difference in our birthdays, our expiration years were different. But...

she had already spoken with her supervisor and got an ok to change our expirations to the same year to make it easier for us and my new license was in the mail!!! Holy Cow! I considered sending her flowers or a fruit basket, at least.

I told this story to the lady at our mail forwarding service in Sioux Falls, and she said that sort of thing happens all the time and that's why they named their business "Your Best Address"

Woooosh - 12-7-2010 at 11:41 AM

I receive my bills and pay them through a South Dakota outfit called "PayTrust". I've been using them for ten years now. They get all my financial mail, scan them and e-mail them to me. They send any checks and credit card replacements directly to my San Diego mailing address. No errors yet. I can get a CD of all my scanned bills for the whole year too. Very nice people up there! I'm sure having an established physical address would make getting my car plates and DL a breeze.

http://paytrust.intuit.com/index.jsp

durrelllrobert - 12-7-2010 at 11:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by oladulce
My husb and i got SD driver's license on the same day last year before we moved to Baja. I just noticed that his DL expires in 2015 and mine in 2014 which would be very inconvenient to have to make 2 trips there come renewal time.

Just to make sure there wasn't an error, I thought what the heck, I'll send an email to the DL dept. Lo and behold, the next day I got a response from a nice lady who said that because of one month difference in our birthdays, our expiration years were different. But...

she had already spoken with her supervisor and got an ok to change our expirations to the same year to make it easier for us and my new license was in the mail!!! Holy Cow! I considered sending her flowers or a fruit basket, at least.

I told this story to the lady at our mail forwarding service in Sioux Falls, and she said that sort of thing happens all the time and that's why they named their business "Your Best Address"
very cool but you don't need a SD DL or address to have SD plates in MX.

durrelllrobert - 12-7-2010 at 11:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
I'm sure having an established physical address would make getting my car plates and DL a breeze.

I get mine sent directly to my San Ysidro PWB in less than 1 week.

Woooosh - 12-7-2010 at 11:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
I'm sure having an established physical address would make getting my car plates and DL a breeze.

I get mine sent directly to my San Ysidro PWB in less than 1 week.

I think most of us think this is just too good to be true. What's the downside, if any?

DENNIS - 12-7-2010 at 12:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
I think most of us think this is just too good to be true. What's the downside, if any?


Doesn't seem to be any as of yet, especially if the car is left below the border.
I could see California reacting to the loss of revenue and leaning on drivers for still having a CA DL to go with the SD plates while driving in CA, but that hasn't been a problem. It could be, I suppose, if you had a fender-bender and the police got involved.
I don't know. I'm not going to worry about it.

vandenberg - 12-7-2010 at 12:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
I think most of us think this is just too good to be true. What's the downside, if any?


Downside.:?:
My tags expired the end of November. Send the money in October and they send the registration and stickers to my Loreto postbox. Never got here. Called, and they send a new set. Again, never got here. Then had them send the latest set to a friend in Texas, who's supposed to arrive yesterday, but is delayed for health reasons.:no:
Only drawback we've encountered thusfar.
And......NO Dakota address or DL required.

DENNIS - 12-7-2010 at 12:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by vandenberg
And......NO Dakota address or DL required.


Nor Smog BS.

halcyondays - 12-7-2010 at 05:34 PM

I am still wondering......do we still have to carry insurance on the truck in the states if we have SD plates?

Or is the bonus loophole the fact that SD does not require any insurance?

Thanks!

bajalou - 12-7-2010 at 05:37 PM

If the truck is in the states, it has to have insurance. If it's in Baja, it doesn't have to have US insurance.

DENNIS - 12-7-2010 at 05:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by halcyondays
I am still wondering......do we still have to carry insurance on the truck in the states if we have SD plates?

Or is the bonus loophole the fact that SD does not require any insurance?

Thanks!


Well...if you drive it in California, you have to have insurance. Same as Mexican plated cars.......when they cross the border into CA, they need to be insured there.
I suppose most states have this law.

bajalou - 12-7-2010 at 05:45 PM

SD says it must be insured if it is driven on a public highway.

DENNIS - 12-7-2010 at 05:48 PM

Yeah....there are no easy ways out of this. You wanna play...you gotta pay.

absinvestor - 12-7-2010 at 10:12 PM

I'm not sure about other States but Colorado aggressively goes after those registering in other States ie Montana, SD and Oregon. Rv's with plates from States with low registration fees or no sales tax are ticketed and pursued for tax fraud. I had a neighbor that owned his home in Colorado and used a Montana LLC to purchase and register a new motorhome. Everything went fine for about 4 years. Eventually he was caught and paid not only the sales tax and all prior year registration fees+ late fees etc but a huge attorney bill to help from the threat of a tax fraud charge!! A search on the internet says that California has a "hot line" for reporting this type of activity. I don't like the high taxes and fees but would prefer to pay today vs the threat of paying them later with huge fines etc.

DENNIS - 12-7-2010 at 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by absinvestor
A search on the internet says that California has a "hot line" for reporting this type of activity.



How nice. I wonder if Arnold learned that one from Hitler's Youth Corp who were rewarded for turning in their parents.

oladulce - 12-8-2010 at 01:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajalou
SD says it must be insured if it is driven on a public highway.


SD doesn't require that you show proof of insurance at the time you register the vehicle, but as Bajalou stated, insurance is required if you plan to operate the vehicle.

Our truck is fairly new and we wanted full Mexican insurance coverage and our Mexican policy requires that we maintain full US insurance coverage. Haven't figured out a way around paying for the double coverage yet, at least as long as we have HDI seguros/Bajabound. Halcyondays, it sounds like you can do as Dennis has mentioned many times and just get the basic Mexican coverage so you wouldn't need US insurance.

I've seen ads occasionally (in the Baja Western Onion?) or other online publications, for a guy who will drive your vehicle down to Baja for you. Maybe that's an option if you don't want to tow it down. Then you'd only need temporary US coverage to get it to the border.

Correct, the South Dakota driver's licenses weren't mandatory for our car registrations, but we "severed all ties" with CA (as the tax lingo goes) when we moved to BCS. South Dakota is now our US domicile address for taxes, banking, credit cards, etc. It was worth the trip back there to get it all established but the 5 yr driver's license is kind of a bummer.

Here's a link to some recent pages added to the SD DMV website which discusses their position on non-resident vehicle registration. Basically it says that they don't care if people aren't residents of SD, but they're trying to put a stop to people falsifying or making up SD addresses because they think they have to in order to get SD plates. See the first 2 non-resident memos:

http://www.state.sd.us/drr2/motorvehicle/nonresident.htm

Vandenberg, this was our first year of SD auto registration renewals. Our last name is at the end of the alphabet too so we also renew in Nov. I started working on it in Sept. Luckily a neighbor was coming down so I could have the new stickers and regs sent to them from our mail forwarding service. It may be a challenge to get the stickers on time every year tho and next year I'm going to start the online registration renewals in June or july so we've got lots of time to figure out how to get them down to us. I wondered if having our mail service Fed Ex the stuff to one of our nice Nomad amigas who live closer to civilzation ( La Paz) might be an option if we get in a bind. :dudette:

The very first trip to town after receiving our new reg and stickers we were pulled over in Insurgentes where the cops asked to see our current paperwork.

BMG - 12-8-2010 at 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

What's the downside, if any?

Bus loads of French tourists taking photos of your SD license plate.

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bajadock - 12-8-2010 at 08:49 AM

Most common question I get from Customs and Border Protection about my Mount Rushmore plates is "What's the code for South Dakota?".

Code? You mean my zip code?

"No. What's the 2 letter state abbreviation for South Dakota?" 8)

Check

djh - 12-8-2010 at 10:10 AM

your U2U

;D

DENNIS - 12-8-2010 at 10:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajadock
Most common question I get from Customs and Border Protection about my Mount Rushmore plates is "What's the code for South Dakota?".

Code? You mean my zip code?

"No. What's the 2 letter state abbreviation for South Dakota?" 8)



I know I'll feel stupid when I see it, but what is it if it isn't SD?

bajaguy - 12-8-2010 at 10:41 AM

then nobody's mail gets delivered

vandenberg - 12-8-2010 at 03:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by oladulce
Vandenberg, this was our first year of SD auto registration renewals. Our last name is at the end of the alphabet too so we also renew in Nov. I started working on it in Sept.



That is the earliest they accept renewals.

halcyondays - 12-8-2010 at 04:34 PM

I am confused??

If I have to have US insurance.....what is the point of having SD plates again?

I mean---I thought that SD did not require car insurance and that was the whole point of having the car registered there-----so you don't have to pay US AND Mexican insurance??

DENNIS - 12-8-2010 at 04:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by halcyondays
I am confused??

If I have to have US insurance.....what is the point of having SD plates again?

I mean---I thought that SD did not require car insurance and that was the whole point of having the car registered there-----so you don't have to pay US AND Mexican insurance??



Yes. You are confused.
The point of having SD registration for cars in Mexico is you don't have to have it smogged every other year and you don't have to have insurance to keep it registered.

We're talking about cars garaged in Mexico. Not cars garaged in the states, but should you decide to take that car across the border into the states, you need to buy a short term...one, two, three day policy or whatever, to be legal there.

Lemme know if you're still confused. :biggrin:


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[Edited on 12-8-2010 by DENNIS]

halcyondays - 12-8-2010 at 04:58 PM

Thanks Dennis....I got it now.
Someone above mentioned they had full coverage in Mexico and it required that they have coverage in the US to do so.

Minimum coverage in Mexico does not need US coverage.

Thanks!

durrelllrobert - 12-9-2010 at 10:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by halcyondays
I am still wondering......do we still have to carry insurance on the truck in the states if we have SD plates?

Or is the bonus loophole the fact that SD does not require any insurance?

Thanks!

must have CA insurance to drive in CA, but since my cars are only up there about 20 days/ yr = less than 6000 mi/yr the cost is low.

durrelllrobert - 12-9-2010 at 10:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajalou
SD says it must be insured if it is driven on a public highway.
just don't have to show proof

durrelllrobert - 12-9-2010 at 10:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS


Yes. You are confused.
The point of having SD registration for cars in Mexico is you don't have to have it smogged every other year and you don't have to have insurance to keep it registered.

Lemme know if you're still confused. :biggrin:

[Edited on 12-8-2010 by DENNIS] [/quote
]not to mention the fact that SD registration cost is a fraction of CA cost and you don't have to stand in line at DMV

MitchMan - 12-9-2010 at 12:27 PM

According to Discover Baja's owner (from whom I obtained my Mexican Auto Ins Coverage) one can get (from Discover Baja) a full year of Mexican Liability coverage of a South Dakota registered car/truck (owned by a California resident who has a current California drivers license that itself reflects a California residence address). South Dakota does not require presentation of any kind of insurance coverage in order to obtain valid South Dakota vehicle registration.

California law does not permit a currently California licensed driver (with a California domicile as reflected on said California drivers license) to drive a vehicle (that said California licensed driver owns) on California streets that is not itself validly registered in California at the time of driving said vehicle on California streets.

A California licensed driver can own a California registered vehicle that does not have to meet the smog requirement nor the California street coverage ins so long as said owner 1)officially represents to the DMV that the vehicle is 100% of the time in Baja 2)is a valid Mexican resident who can obtain a valid real Mexican Ins policy from a Mex ins co where the Mex ins policy cearly states on the policy document itself that the policy is a MEXICAN RESIDENT POLICY.

The implication is, obviously, that you probably need to be a valid Mexican resident in order to get that kind of Mexican policy. Also, the rub might be that you cannot legally drive the vehicle mentioned in paragraph 3 above on California streets at any time even if you get California ins on it since you already represented that the vehicle is 100% of the time in Baja which allowed you exemption from smog certification and year round California coverage ins.

[Edited on 12-9-2010 by MitchMan]

longlegsinlapaz - 12-9-2010 at 12:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MitchMan
1)officially represents to the DMV that the vehicle is 100% of the time in Baja 2)is a valid Mexican resident who can obtain a valid real Mexican Ins policy from a Mex ins co where the Mex ins policy cearly states on the policy document itself that the policy is a MEXICAN RESIDENT POLICY.

The implication is, obviously, that you probably need to be a valid Mexican resident in order to get that kind of Mexican policy.


Therein lies the glitch.....to get Mexican resident vehicle insurance, you have to have a Mexican licensed vehicle....US plated vehicles only qualify for Tourist vehicle insurance....according to 3 different Mexican insurance companies.

i.e., policy classification is based on the vehicle legal status, not the vehicle owners legal status.

oladulce - 12-9-2010 at 01:07 PM

One confusing aspect of car insurance lingo is the term "Tourist" vs "Resident". The HDI seguros policy from Bajabound (the same one offered by Discover Baja) is called a "tourist policy" if your US plated vehicle is in Mexico less than 90 days per year.

For US plated vehicles that are in Mexico for more than 90 days per year, the term the insurance company uses is a "Mexico Resident " policy. Has nothing to do with immigration status etc, it's based on how long your car is in Mexico each year and these policies are all for US plated vehicles- not Mexican registered cars. If your car with US plates is in Mexico longer than 90 days per year you pay a little more and HDI Seguros calls that coverage a "Resident policy".

The disclaimer '' Mexico Resident policies for US plated vehicles" is a mouthfull, but is more accurate for the coverage that some of us have.

pacside - 12-9-2010 at 01:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Quote:
Originally posted by MitchMan
1)officially represents to the DMV that the vehicle is 100% of the time in Baja 2)is a valid Mexican resident who can obtain a valid real Mexican Ins policy from a Mex ins co where the Mex ins policy cearly states on the policy document itself that the policy is a MEXICAN RESIDENT POLICY.

The implication is, obviously, that you probably need to be a valid Mexican resident in order to get that kind of Mexican policy.


Therein lies the glitch.....to get Mexican resident vehicle insurance, you have to have a Mexican licensed vehicle....US plated vehicles only qualify for Tourist vehicle insurance....according to 3 different Mexican insurance companies.

i.e., policy classification is based on the vehicle legal status, not the vehicle owners legal status.


So I have liability only mx insurance coverage through Lewis & Lewis on my beater truck that is 100% in baja. I presume this is "tourist" ins as I'm not a mx natl. Am I supposed to carry U.S. insurance as well for my L&L ins to be valid?

btw truck is registered in CA via AAA office. I was able to get smog test exempt by signing a form stating vehicle is in mx and providing proof of insurance...the Lewis & Lewis insurance was good enough for them. They gave me the tags right there.

Some folks have brought up the fact my registration could be invalid because I don't have U.S. insurance. I'll find out when I renew this year at the AAA office if reg is still valid and let you all know.

pacside

oladulce - 12-9-2010 at 01:31 PM

Pacside, if Lewis and Lewis didn't ask for your US auto insurance policy when you got your Mexican insurance then they must not require you to have US insurance simultaneously.

My HDI policy from DB and BajaBound specifically requires that we maintain FUll US coverage if we want to have FULL Mexican auto insurance coverage. It says so in bold letters. This Mexican policy requires you to fill in your US auto insurance policy information or you can't complete the application.

Your Lewis and Lewis is a different insurance company than mine and your coverage is different.

Since the DMV gives you registration stickers and you have Mexican insurance, you've covered all your bases

MitchMan - 12-9-2010 at 01:44 PM

Ooooo. This is good info here. Apparently there is a conflict between whether the "resident" terminology and requirement for a Mexican Resident policy relates to the country of registration of the vehicle or the immigration status of the individual vehicle owner.

I am literal kind of guy and in the USA, most all legality relies on literal translation of the written law. However, Mexico can be very 'unliteral", inconsistent, illogical, ambiguous, and often hinges on the person in authority at any given point in time and from specific situation to specific situation. This situation is rampant, ubiquitous and pervasive. Not really representative of a country supposedly based on law, also undermines democracy itself, but that's another topic.

Anyway. If the policy literally states "Mexican Resident" policy, that "literally" refers to immigration status of the owner/individual policy holder, not the vehicle. That would tend to negate Longlegsinlapaz's contention, but, I believe what he said about what the 3 insurance companies told him. On the other hand, oladulce is implying that the term resident in "Resident Policy" refers to the duration of the vehicle in baja being more than 90 days based on what he was told. Both representations by Longlegsinlapaz and oladulce are from "verbals" from insurance broker sales staff.

Unfortunately, most of the time in baja, all anyone has to go on are "verbals". And, in my professional experience, insurance sales people have rarely if ever read any policy in its entirety that they sell, nor are they particularly detail oriented enough nor knowledgeable enough in legalese to have formed precise accurate understandings of the twists and turns of the finer points of the content of ins policies. Doesn't mean that they can't be correct on some of the things that they verbally represent.

Before today, I was certain of my understanding of this matter. Now, I am not so sure. I am glad longlegsinlapaz and oladulce chimed in on this. At any rate, in my mind, this issue is not settled.

MitchMan - 12-9-2010 at 02:03 PM

pacside,
AAA is not the final authority, the DMV is. Just because you were able to get your registration from AAA, you may not actually have valid registration. The DMV requires special electronic verification directly and only from the insurance company. If the policy you got from Lewis and Lewis doesn't ultimately come from a company that sends the DMV the above-mentioned electronic verification, the DMV is supposed to or may invalidate your registration. If you get in an accident, and the adjuster verifies the validity of your California registration and finds that you do not in fact have valid CA registration (even though you have current tags on your vehicle and a current CA registration document in your hands), that insurance company can decline to cover you.

I used to get my registration done at AAA all the time. When I found out about the electronic verification thing, I personally realized that having current tags and a current registration document could mean nothing as far as reliance as to whether or not I would actually be covered in an accident. Some people wll be happy if the documents in their hands "show" proof of valid ins coverage. I want "coverage in fact" and I require ins and registration that is the best guarantee of "coverage in fact". But, that's just me.

MitchMan - 12-9-2010 at 02:09 PM

Side point. I don't think that it matters to your Mex policy whether or not you have USA coverage in addition to Mexican coverage, I think that they care/require only that you have valid and current USA state registration.

If I am wrong on this, please tell me so and state/site your documentary reference.

oladulce - 12-9-2010 at 02:13 PM

From BajaBound's online application: (The policy itself refers to the 90 days/year rule although this defintion doesn't mention it)


Policy Use

Select the appropriate purpose of the trip to Mexico:
Tourist

* Select "Tourist" if the vehicle use is for pleasure or vacation activities.
* YOU MUST MAINTAIN U.S./CANADIAN COVERAGE WHILE IN MEXICO TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR TOURIST USE, OTHERWISE SELECT RESIDENT.
* Important: If you have a liability-only policy in the U.S./Canada, you must purchase a liability-only policy for Mexico unless you choose "Resident" even if you are not a resident.

Resident

* Select "Resident" if you reside in Mexico for more than 6 months during the year.
* If your vehicle remains in Mexico throughout the year select "Resident" even if you do not reside in Mexico the entire year.
* If you have a U.S./Canadian liability-only policy and would like full coverage into Mexico, select "Resident" even if you are not a resident of Mexico.
* IF YOU PLAN TO DISCONTINUE YOUR U.S./CANADIAN COVERAGE WHILE YOU ARE IN MEXICO, YOU MUST SELECT "RESIDENT."

MitchMan - 12-9-2010 at 02:24 PM

Very cool. Thanks, oladulce.

bajaguy - 12-9-2010 at 05:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MitchMan

I am literal kind of guy and in the USA, most all legality relies on literal translation of the written law. However, Mexico can be very 'unliteral", inconsistent, illogical, ambiguous, and often hinges on the person in authority at any given point in time and from specific situation to specific situation. This situation is rampant, ubiquitous and pervasive.





Mitch.........seriously.......I like this.......can I quote you when anyone asks what are the requirements in Mexico for (fill in the blank)....??????

bajamigo - 12-9-2010 at 05:32 PM

You could try, but I think the words are too big for you.

:biggrin:

bajaguy - 12-9-2010 at 05:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajamigo
You could try, but I think the words are too big for you.

:biggrin:






I don't have to know what they mean, it just looks cool

MitchMan - 12-10-2010 at 01:42 PM

Bajaguy, sure.

durrelllrobert - 12-11-2010 at 10:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS



I know I'll feel stupid when I see it, but what is it if it isn't SD?

Dakota Sur = DS; Baja Sur = BS :lol::lol:

durrelllrobert - 12-11-2010 at 12:22 PM

Since Clay County is the only place in SD that you can get non-resident status plates, I find it amazing that the total population (2006 census) is only 12,870 and that the total number of registered vehicles is well over 150,000 and I'll bet that at least 25,000 are located in MX.
Maybe someday this baloon will break as some of you have suggested.

bajaguy - 12-11-2010 at 12:42 PM

What's wrong with having 19.3 cars each?????

oladulce - 12-11-2010 at 02:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Since Clay County is the only place in SD that you can get non-resident status plates, I find it amazing that the total population (2006 census) is only 12,870 and that the total number of registered vehicles is well over 150,000 and I'll bet that at least 25,000 are located in MX.
Maybe someday this baloon will break as some of you have suggested.


The link I put up on my earlier post is for the State of South Dakota DMV website. http://www.state.sd.us/drr2/motorvehicle/nonresident.htm

The car registration rules are the same in ALL counties in the state which says that you don't have to live in South Dakota to register your vehicle there, but you DO have to give them your true domicile address. The feds Patriot Act enforcement caused the state to re-evaluate their own law about Non-residents car registrations and South Dakota decided that they are fine with Non-residents having SD plates. But they are cracking down on out-of-staters giving fake SD addresses to comply with Federal rules. No indication that there's a bubble to burst cuz they are very aware that folks living elsewhere are getting SD plates and it's not against their policy.

What may be confusing is that not all SD counties offer phone consultations and car registration estimates over the phone like Clay County does. Our county of domicile- Minnehaha - doesn't do phone consults for your initial car reg so you have to go in person or have a service go down to the office for you.

Once you establish the registrations, annual renewals can be done online or by calling main DMV office in Pierre with the info they send you on the renewal postcard.

DENNIS - 12-11-2010 at 02:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by oladulce
The car registration rules are the same in ALL counties in the state which says that you don't have to live in South Dakota to register your vehicle there, but you DO have to give them your true domicile address.



I've been giving them my Postal Annex address for a few years now. It starts with PMB - - -. I'm sure they would know that's Postal Mail Box.
I won't mention it to them.

DENNIS - 12-11-2010 at 03:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by oladulce
Hey, you're not giving a fake SD address to get your plates so you've met their requirements.



Yeah....The last thing I would do with this issue is give a false statement to anybody. That's not a can of worms I'm interested in opening.


Hey...Where did you go??


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[Edited on 12-11-2010 by DENNIS]

oladulce - 12-11-2010 at 03:41 PM

I'm an ding-dong and I deleted the post instead of editing the message.

Heck Dennis, our South Dakota driver's licenses lists our address as a PMB!

Our SD mailing address is the office of our mail forwarding service, plus the suite and box #, for example:

502 W 9th St, STE 505-204, Sioux Falls.

We use this type of address for everything and put it on our DL applications but discovered the suite and box# had been changed to a PMB when we got the licenses. I asked about it and they said the mail forwarding service addresses are flagged in their computers and automatically convert to a PMB- a Patriot Act requirement by the Federal gov.

I asked the DMV lady if a PMB was going to a problem as far as an "official address" and she said, "honey, there are hundreds maybe thousands of fulltime RV'ers with a South Dakota 'domicile' address such as this ( for voter registration, taxes etc) and it's no problem at all".

Hey, you didn't give them a fake SD address to register your car and that's all they care about.

[Edited on 12-11-2010 by oladulce]

vandenberg - 12-12-2010 at 09:00 AM

Little warning.
Like mentioned before, my tags didn't make it to our Loreto postbox. A request for a replacement set didn't fare any better. A third request, to send them to a friend in Texas, who was ready to come down, was ignored.(done by e-mail)
Now we were told that the time of replacement has expired and a $10.00 penalty applied, plus, that they only send to the address listed on the registration. Also, a new signed form is required. Can be done by e-mail and scanner, but still a royal pain. In the mean time we're driving without current tags, while our fees have been paid. All we need, getting stopped down south, where they have been clamping down on non registered vehicles.:mad:
We've had major problems with our mail here.

oladulce - 12-12-2010 at 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by vandenberg
Little warning.
Like mentioned before, my tags didn't make it to our Loreto postbox. ...


Vandenberg, meet me over in u2u. If you can get your stickers to us in CA quick-like we'll bring them down to you.