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Property Tax issue Los Cabos

slimshady - 1-10-2011 at 05:36 PM

On January 3, I paid the property taxes for two properties I own in los cabos( Cerro Colorado and Punta Perfecta). I paid using the Los Cabos Tesoreria Website and used their payment option for online payments. I used my Alaska Visa.

One week later I check to see if my property tax balance was 0 and found out the balance was not paid. Visa did already pay the money out.
I contacted the Tesoreria and they said the payment was not complete and that I had to call bancomer to have them apply the money to my property tax bill. I called 2 bancomers in Cabo per direction of the city and they had now idea what the hell I was talking about. I am now dealing with my Visa and having the money returned.

The lady from the Tesoreria said the issue was between bancomer and adguira and exchange rates.

Has anyone experienced this issue and if so post. If you paid online check to confirm that the property tax payment was adequately applied.

[Edited on 1-11-2011 by slimshady]

longlegsinlapaz - 1-10-2011 at 08:11 PM

I'm guessing they had him call Bancomer because that's the bank the tax office uses since they told him to tell Bancomer to make sure the $$ was credited against his tax property tax bill account number. Sounds like they were trying to get the transaction completed correctly rather than canceled by his bank card company.

Gaucho - 1-10-2011 at 10:39 PM

For a very nominal fee The Settlement Co. will do it for you AND mail a receipt here to the states.
Quote:
Originally posted by slimshady
On January 3, I paid the property taxes for two properties I own in los cabos( Cerro Colorado and Punta Perfecta). I paid using the Los Cabos Tesoreria Website and used their payment option for online payments. I used my Alaska Visa.

One week later I check to see if my property tax balance was 0 and found out the balance was not paid. Visa did already pay the money out.
I contacted the Tesoreria and they said the payment was not complete and that I had to call bancomer to have them apply the money to my property tax bill. I called 2 bancomers in Cabo per direction of the city and they had now idea what the hell I was talking about. I am now dealing with my Visa and having the money returned.

The lady from the Tesoreria said the issue was between bancomer and adguira and exchange rates.

Has anyone experienced this issue and if so post. If you paid online check to confirm that the property tax payment was adequately applied.

[Edited on 1-11-2011 by slimshady]

slimshady - 1-11-2011 at 06:24 PM

My bank says that Bancomer has recieved the payment and thye funds are in the account. yet it has not been paid applied to the predial impuesto. The problem lies between Bancomer and their office. The gal over at the Tesoraria told me to call Bancomer and gave me a couple of bad numbers. Maybe the modern internet commerce arena should be left to us Gringos. They can't seem to get things done correctly.

Leo - 1-11-2011 at 09:46 PM

What else is new!

gnukid - 1-12-2011 at 07:41 AM

I would go pay the tax directly asap and work toward refund or application to your account at a later date. Do not confuse this online form with the actual process of paying the property tax which is not complete and may never be.

bajalorena - 1-12-2011 at 12:54 PM

Refund? Sure, that will happen!!!

slimshady - 1-12-2011 at 10:34 PM

Makes me want go to slap some sense into some of those folks. Gnukid, I paid the same way last year and no problems. The lady at the city also said it was for my protection????? I don't think people interested in fraud or drug trafficking are going to use their credit card to pay property taxes.

Those people are really idiots.

gnukid - 1-13-2011 at 09:46 AM

Some people have their gringo heads on and can't just "get her done", taxes in Baja are low, but they go up when they are late, and it's critical so pay it. The two issues, tax due versus a problem with this online transaction are two separate issues that will likely never align. So treat them separately and learn the lesson, get someone to pay the tax in person, months early. If you prefer to beat your yourself up over this and let it get to you you can and remain unpaid, but why? Most peoples taxes are under $50/yr and if it's more it's because you built a mansion and can afford it.

[Edited on 1-13-2011 by gnukid]

drarroyo - 1-13-2011 at 10:26 AM

Paul, time for you to update ... if your property is classified 'rustico' then ok...your taxes will be as low as you say (I have said property)
However ...if your property is classified 'urbano' then you'll need to add a zero to your numbers (I have said property)

These two properties are within 1/8 of a mile apart in Agua de la Costa, close to where you stay in Barriles.
Just FYI

[Edited on 1-13-2011 by drarroyo]

Santiago - 1-13-2011 at 11:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by morgaine7
Mine is "urbano", and predial was 681.24 pesos before discount (410.74 after discount). Maybe assessments are different in La Paz vs. Los Cabos, though.

Kate

Kate: are you telling us that your annual property tax is about $34 dollars? Is this an unimproved lot or is there a house of some kind on it?

drarroyo - 1-13-2011 at 12:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by morgaine7
Mine is "urbano", and predial was 681.24 pesos before discount (410.74 after discount). Maybe assessments are different in La Paz vs. Los Cabos, though.

Kate


Good info. Salut.
My 'rustico' taxes : $420 pesos (1500 sq meters)
My 'urbano'taxes : $5400 pesos (3000 sq meters one lot back from beachfront!)

Thanks for your input.
ps both 'unimproved' lots

[Edited on 1-13-2011 by drarroyo]

gnukid - 1-13-2011 at 01:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Santiago
Quote:
Originally posted by morgaine7
Mine is "urbano", and predial was 681.24 pesos before discount (410.74 after discount). Maybe assessments are different in La Paz vs. Los Cabos, though.

Kate

Kate: are you telling us that your annual property tax is about $34 dollars? Is this an unimproved lot or is there a house of some kind on it?


I have gone to pay taxes at the office and there it's sort of like a reunion of everybody from everywhere and we all discuss our tax rate. The average I found at the La Paz office is about $mn350 or $30 though I know large homes are much more, understandably.

In either case, the cost is not significantly relevant to this issue, money lost in transit is separate from the fact that one must pay the property tax, always best done in person in order to receive a properly stamped receipt.

maspacifico - 1-13-2011 at 04:59 PM

That stamped receipt is what you need to show to do all kinds of things. We paid online a couple years ago and then we needed the stamped receipt, and that wasn't nearly as easy as going in to pay the first time. We just go in now. Would be nice to get it done online though!
Just be happy you aren't getting jerked around on a tax increase!

slimshady - 1-13-2011 at 07:52 PM

My taxes are expensive because they included last years and this years together. Other than that my one lot in Cerro Colorado is urbano since its in the corridor and part of the Palmilla development. I wish I only paid 50 bucks for the taxes.

Prediales in La Paz

rostacican - 1-29-2011 at 02:20 PM

Has anyone ever used a wire transfer to pay the predial in La Paz or Los Cabos? I'm looking for info as to if this is an option in La Paz.
Thx

MitchMan - 1-30-2011 at 12:35 PM

I use paying property taxes in person in La Paz as an excuse to go to La Paz. I do that for about 4 other administrative things. I made sure that they all took place in different months.

One other thing, I advise paying anything/everything in person and always get a receipt. I learned this from accounting...always get a fool proof paper trail and peripheral corroborating documents. Mexico is a third world country culturally, administratively, and physically. It's is indeed getting better every year, but it ain't there yet. It's your job as a first world gringo to cover your own @$$.

[Edited on 1-30-2011 by MitchMan]