New border crossing at Otay East? Where is the money coming from? Union-Trib story
[Edited on 1-12-2011 by bajadock]bajaguy - 1-12-2011 at 10:16 AM
you, eventually...........but 'they" say user feesDavid K - 1-12-2011 at 11:28 AM
That will put you real close to ths Corredor 2000 so less to no city traffic.
Commercial????
bajaguy - 1-12-2011 at 11:30 AM
I thought the article stated it was for commercial vehicles....???Von - 1-12-2011 at 11:41 AM
Wow! in hope it has more lanes than the San Ysidro crosssin or is just for big rigs~ booooooooooo~Brian L - 1-12-2011 at 11:57 AM
From SANDAG website: (easy on SANDAG, they're my employer)
Caltrans and the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) have released the Draft Environmental Impact Report/Draft Environmental Impact Statement
(DEIR/DEIS) on the State Route 11 and Otay Mesa East Port of Entry project for a 60-day public comment period through Feb. 1, 2011.
SR 11 will be a 2.5-mile, four-lane state highway that will connect SR 125 and SR 905 in the United States to a new Otay Mesa East Port of Entry (POE)
along the U.S.-Mexico border at Otay Mesa East. In Mexico, the corridor will connect the new POE to the Tijuana-Tecate and Tijuana-Ensenada free and
toll roads. The project also includes a new Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Facility in the United States.
A public meeting on the DEIR/DEIS is scheduled for Wednesday, Jan. 19, 2011, from 5:30 to 7:30 p.m. at the Ocean View Hills Elementary School, 4919
Del Sol Blvd., San Diego. Staff from Caltrans and SANDAG, along with representatives from the federal General Services Administration, will be on hand
to provide information and to answer questions regarding the proposed project.
Together, SR 11 and the new Otay Mesa East POE will improve the efficient movement of people, goods, and services between the United States and
Mexico. Caltrans has been conducting the environmental studies for the development of the proposed project.
The estimated cost of the highway and the new POE is approximately $700 million. It will be funded through tolls, fees, and other revenue sources.
SANDAG will serve as the toll operator. SANDAG, Caltrans, the U.S. Department of Transportation, the General Services Administration, and U.S. Customs
and Border Protection, along with counterpart agencies in Mexico and other stakeholders, are collaborating to develop this binational project.
The DEIR/DEIS examines the potential environmental impacts of the proposed project and the alternatives and variations being considered. It describes
the proposed project; the alternatives being considered; the project’s effects on the existing environment; the potential impacts of each of the
alternatives and variations; and the proposed avoidance, minimization, and/or mitigation measures.
The proposed facilities are being studied under a two-tier process. As part of the Tier I process, a Program Environmental Impact Report/Phase I
Environmental Impact Statement was prepared and approved/certified by Caltrans and FHWA in August 2008. The just-released DEIR/DEIS constitutes Tier
II of the planning and environmental clearance for the development of the new Otay Mesa East POE, the associated SR 11 highway, and the new California
Highway Patrol Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Facility for the inspection of trucks entering California from Mexico.Bajahowodd - 1-12-2011 at 03:28 PM
Tolls? So while it would apprear that non-commericla vehicles will be able to use it, it will cost. Given those two hour waits that happen at the old
gates, wonder if it will be a weighted toll depending upon demand, such as we find on some of the OC toll roads.
Your Choice
bajaguy - 1-12-2011 at 03:48 PM
You can access the 905 west toll free, or the 125 north which is a toll roadsurfer jim - 1-12-2011 at 04:55 PM
tolls, fees, and "other revenue sources"......watch your wallets my friends.Bajahowodd - 1-12-2011 at 06:24 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
You can access the 905 west toll free, or the 125 north which is a toll road
Think you are missing the point. What was posted would appear to indicate that if one uses the new gates, there will be a toll, period. On the other
hand, doesn't look like this will be an issue for about four years.Brian L - 1-12-2011 at 08:29 PM
FYI, it is supposedly illegal to toll border crossings... Like to see how it is worked out...durrelllrobert - 1-13-2011 at 10:31 AM
Road link & third US-MX border crossing to be toll financed in San Diego area
CA11California SR 11new toll road
Governor Schwarzenegger this week signed a law giving toll financing powers to a local association of governments for an $800m project to build a
third US-Mexico border crossing in the San Diego/Tijuana area. The new border crossing or 'port of entry' (POE) called East Otay Mesa is to be a bit
over 3km (2 miles) east of the existing Otay Mesa crossing.
SB1486 gives toll financing powers to the San Diego Association of Governments (SANDAG) and explicitly prohibits them from a toll concession
procurement or public-private partnership ensuring that it will be built as a traditional governmental toll operation.
The project consists of a 4km (2.5 mile) toll road called State Route 11 (CA11) and a 19 lane East Otay Mesa Port of Entry (EOMPOE) on the US side of
the border. The project is designed to relieve congestion at the two existing ports of entry at Otay Mesa which is at the southern end of the South
Bay expressway (CA125) and the San Ysidro crossing at the southern end of I-5.
The CA11 tollroad of 2+2 lanes would be an extension eastward of CA905 from the interchange with CA125 (South Bay Expressway). On the Mexican side of
the border the D-2 is nearby and readily connected. It links to the Tijuana-Ensenada tollroad and the tax-supported highway to Tecate.
Rationale for the project is that the Otay Mesa POE is over full capacity with 1.6m trucks/year (4,400/day) and an expected doubling by 2025. Wait
times for trucks are said by SANDAG to frequently exceed 4 hours already, seriously adding to costs of US-Mexican trade. The Otay Mesa POE also
handles about 12m passenger vehicles a year (33k/day) with wait times frequently over 2 hours.
The project would also provide a truck bypass lane northbound to a state vehicle inspection post.
Estimates of the cost of the tollroad works are $250m to $360m. SB1486 gives SANDAG the power to issue toll revenue bonds for the project, toll
setting and collection powers, land acquisition powers, and the power to make rules and regulations and to operate the tollroad.
Cost of the POE itself are around $400m. The state will be appealing to the US Government for funds for the project under a border crossing
improvement grant program.
SANDAG is explicitly not authorized to "lease or otherwise convey a tollroad to a private sector entity." It is also prohibited from converting any
existing road or lane of a road to tolls.
Tolls on the CA11 may be adjusted every two years, SB1486 says. The toll structure may provide for variable pricing to manage traffic.
The aim of the new POE would be to move trucks through with maximum wait times of 20 minutes for unregistered trucks and 6 minutes for trucks
registered for the SENTRI program of priority clearance.
Most planning clearances have been obtained although the US Government has yet to give its approval. Given the hysterical and hateful demagoguery
surrounding relations with Mexico (Will someone will dub this NAFTA Highway West?) that approval cannot be taken for granted.durrelllrobert - 1-13-2011 at 10:35 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Brian L
FYI, it is supposedly illegal to toll border crossings
there are 11 of those going into canada:
The data from the Public Border Operators Association (PBOA) cover monthly traffic numbers on the eleven toll crossings (ten bridges and one tunnel)
between Ontario Canada and the US states of New York and Michigan, US.