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Bahia de Concepcion summer temperatures

absinvestor - 1-12-2011 at 01:18 PM

I am considering full-time retirement near Bahia de Concepcion. Previously I lived in Punta Banda and the summers were great but the winters chilly. Most of my visits to Bahia de Concepcion are in the winter or early spring. I previously lived in Bakersfield Ca where it was normal that highs in the summer would be in the 110 range with nights holding around 100. I am fine with Bakersfield type summer temperatures. Are typical summer temperatures in Bahia de Concepcion dramatically higher than 110? Thanks Ron

Russ - 1-12-2011 at 03:06 PM

Ron, I'm dreaming of the warm weather now. In Punta Chivato the summer, mid June through Sept. isn't as hot as Bakersfield. Somewhere in the mid to high 80's with some 90's thrown in and if the north wind is blowing it'll go over 100º. What kills you is the humidity. 85% + except during the north winds and then it's a welcomed 30% or so. One of the big draws of Punta Chivato is the wind comes off the water and helps moderate how hot it feels. Ask around in Concepcion and see which areas get the wind. You really want it during summer and it'll help if you're in an area with bugs. There are a lot of places here for sale or rent in some cases you might want to check it out also.

Bob and Susan - 1-12-2011 at 03:14 PM

yea...summer is WAY better than winter

normal temps are 95-100 in the day but the humidity is huge

today it's clear and 75 and we are sitting around the heater

over at coyote and burro is is much hotter because the rocks never cool down

you do need an air conditioner for the evenings to sleep

Bajahowodd - 1-12-2011 at 03:20 PM

Wow! Sitting around the heater when the outside temp is 75? Guess some like it hot! :lol:

Bob and Susan - 1-12-2011 at 03:23 PM

the pool helps...

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absinvestor - 1-12-2011 at 03:32 PM

Thanks for the info. I lived in Atlanta Georgia for a couple of years so understand the humidity. 80 in the summer in Georgia was hot!!!

Pompano - 1-12-2011 at 03:52 PM

i saw this sign at kilometer 108 Coyote Bay long ago..it was summertime.

"Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

It's hotter than the Gates of Hell"

I tempted fate one July, August, & Septmeber...whew...never again.

David K - 1-12-2011 at 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan
the pool helps...

[Edited on 1-12-2011 by Bob and Susan]

Beware of those pool dogs... they can lick you to death if they smell Pacifico!

Seriously we love the summer... because the sea water is bathtub warm... Bahia Concepcion is great.

At night, the heat and humidity combo does make air conditioning a wonderful thing! Stay at Bob & Susan's Playa Frambes Lighthouse Resort... a place fit for a king... and the low price for luxury is no joke!

Bob and Susan - 1-12-2011 at 04:30 PM

but the fish...and the warm water...and sailing...snorkeling...
and the Italians :cool:

summer is the best

actually there are MORE "action vacationers"
here in the summer than the winter

the winter brings the snowbirds

Pompano - 1-12-2011 at 04:37 PM

But Bob..there are SO many better places to be in the heat of a Baja summer. Heat stroke is not pleasant. Most Italians I know prefer the mountains in summer...Like where I will be.... :yes:

If you HAVE to be in the hotbox of the Bay during summer...you will need mucho sunscreen protection and drink gallons of water each day to prevent sunstroke and dehydration. I almost died twice from lack of Coppertone and cold beer...it was the worst ten minutes of my life...

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Hook - 1-12-2011 at 04:39 PM

Forget about it unless you have A/C for the evenings.

The times I've been there between July-September have been miserable. It's so easy to say that all you have to do is take a dip. But the area is often cut off from any breeze in the summer. You're literally uncomfortable outside in about 10 minutes after a dip. Yes, that's in the shade.

Not for me.

absinvestor - 1-12-2011 at 05:05 PM

I get the message. The place I am considering is near Santispac. It has air-conditioning but no electricity. It has a generator but it is surrounded by other dwellings. I'm guessing that those that "tough it out" in July, August and September won't appreciate a generator running at night. I also have a motorhome with air-conditioning but again the problem with generator noise. Maybe all the neighbors leave in the summer? If not, looks like we'll have to spend the summer months further North on the Pacific Ocean side??

Russ - 1-12-2011 at 05:35 PM

Susan, Wish I saw 75º today. Maybe 65º now 62º @ 5:20. Had a couple hours out of the wind to read in the sun. The wind has been howling 15 to 30mph all day with a high gust of 43mph. Hate to be in a tent!
They are all right about how miserable it is here during the summer. But there are fewer people and the fishing use to be outstanding. Being out on a boat or exploring beaches with no foot prints is a bonus. And the beer is soooo much colder in the summer. Hope to have my AC in before June when things really thaw out here. 15+ summers And I'm old (almost) I deserve some comfort this year.

rhintransit - 1-12-2011 at 05:45 PM

I live in the Loreto area and also have a home in Phoenix, AZ (not great planning but...) I far prefer Phoenix in the summer. 110-120 but it's a dry heat. AND almost every place is air conditioned. being in the humidity here in late August, September, early October (and some of the shoulder time some years) is miserable, although I admit the water is marvelous, etc. at a minimum, you need air conditioning to sleep at night. I'd say most people who are able to leave plan their time away for the summer months.

msteve1014 - 1-12-2011 at 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by absinvestor
I get the message. The place I am considering is near Santispac. It has air-conditioning but no electricity. It has a generator but it is surrounded by other dwellings. I'm guessing that those that "tough it out" in July, August and September won't appreciate a generator running at night. I also have a motorhome with air-conditioning but again the problem with generator noise. Maybe all the neighbors leave in the summer? If not, looks like we'll have to spend the summer months further North on the Pacific Ocean side??

I would think that anybody still there in July, August, or September would come running over to your house for the AC when they hear the generator start. :lol:

I can't take it, I'm on the Pacific.

absinvestor - 1-12-2011 at 05:51 PM

Maybe I am assuming something that isn't true. In a small beach community ie El Burro that doesn't have electricity do the residents run generators at night? Thanks Ron

rhintransit - 1-12-2011 at 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by absinvestor
Maybe I am assuming something that isn't true. In a small beach community ie El Burro that doesn't have electricity do the residents run generators at night? Thanks Ron

I can't speak for El Burro, but in the small beach community of El Juncalito where I used to live, anyone still there in the heat most definitely turn on the acs and generators. you can't hear the other generators for yours....

absinvestor - 1-12-2011 at 06:09 PM

Thanks to all. Guess I'll be like Pompano and tempt fate for at least one year. I've made some mistakes in the past and maybe a summer in the "gates of hell" will be good for me!!

Dry Heat?

Bajahowodd - 1-12-2011 at 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by rhintransit
I live in the Loreto area and also have a home in Phoenix, AZ (not great planning but...) I far prefer Phoenix in the summer. 110-120 but it's a dry heat. AND almost every place is air conditioned. being in the humidity here in late August, September, early October (and some of the shoulder time some years) is miserable, although I admit the water is marvelous, etc. at a minimum, you need air conditioning to sleep at night. I'd say most people who are able to leave plan their time away for the summer months.

What;s that about the monsoon season, when all that self-same humidity roils up from Mexico?

Personally, as far as absinvestor asked, August and September (maybe also Late July and Early October) can be brutal down there because of the humidity. Don't get me wrong, in that I absolutley love the area, be it from Santa Rosalia South to La Paz. But those two months in particular come at a price. If I had the dinero, I'd live on both coasts of Baja, so I could enjoy the best of the seasons.

Bob and Susan - 1-12-2011 at 06:20 PM

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burro is 10 degrees hotter than here

july 4th is the BEST!!!

lots of sail boats FILL the bay

we'll be there that nite :cool:

bring your generator :light:

and air conditioner :light:

Pompano - 1-12-2011 at 07:06 PM

Think ...Alaska.

Skipjack Joe - 1-12-2011 at 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by absinvestor

I get the message. The place I am considering is near Santispac.

Get in touch with ramuma. He'll set you up right.

Hope you're not fond of turtle soup.

Both Coasts....

Gerald - 1-12-2011 at 07:09 PM

What would be good choices for having a place on both coasts?

Gerald

Gerald - 1-12-2011 at 07:10 PM

Both Coasts......what are 2 good choices?

Marc - 1-12-2011 at 09:51 PM

I don't know why I ever go down during summer. Maybe it's the San Francisco fog. Unless you are on or in the water it's just to bloody hot. Setting up a campsite is in that heat is miserable and you will not sleep. I remember a night in BOLA one August it was 104º at 10:00 PM. Last September I had the usual camp gear but spent every night in AC comfort. Late October is my best time.

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Russ - 1-13-2011 at 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by Gerald
Both Coasts......what are 2 good choices?

That's a really good question.
Of course I'd pick the Punta Chivato camp for the East side. But only because of the onshore wind. By the way it can cause problems too. A large surge or waves 1 to 3 feet are not unusual and it can make boating a bad choice. Oh, I forgot.... there are a lot of stingrays here during the whole summer. You'll learn "the shuffle" hopefully before your first sting. The dorado and billfish fishing can be outstanding (not last year) and on days when the wind is light you'll want to be out diving or trolling to manage the heat. BIG coolers are a must both to take care of your catch and supply cold beverages. Also new this year there is Hotelito, AC rooms, bar & restaurant and should be open most of the summer. Best time to come? Mid May through June and Oct through Nov. May - June the water is still cool and Oct - Nov the water is still warm to hot, transitional months with less threat of hurricanes.
For the West side. Some one else will chime in with more experience but last year I had hoped to escape the heat here and spend a week or two in Asuncion. But every time I checked with Sharri or other friends there they were in long pants and a sweat shirts. I know they have their perfect days but it wasn't happening when I wanted to go.

absinvestor - 1-13-2011 at 06:52 AM

The comment about stingrays brought back memories. When we lived in Punta Banda I surf fished almost daily. I fished in cutoffs and sandals. The surf was loaded with stingrays in the summer but I never worried about them until one stung me in the ankle. After that sting I was one of the best "shufflers" in Mexico!!!

vandenberg - 1-13-2011 at 11:26 AM

This just in from a friend up north.

I just got off the phone with a friend living in northern
North Dakota near the Canadian border.

He said that since early this morning the snow has been nearly
waist high and is still falling. The temperature is dropping way
below zero and the north wind is increasing to near gale force.
His wife has done nothing but look through the kitchen window
and just stare.

He says that if it gets much worse, he may have to let her in.

Pompano - 1-13-2011 at 11:55 AM

The Michaels family owned a small farm in Canada, just yards away from the North Dakota border. Their land had been the subject of a minor dispute between the United States and Canada for generations. Mrs. Michaels, who had just celebrated her ninetieth birthday, lived on the farm with her son and three grandchildren.

One day, her son came into her room holding a letter. "I just got some news, Mom," he said. "The government has come to an agreement with the people in Washington. They've decided that our land is really part of the United States. We have the right to approve or disapprove of the agreement. What do you think?"

"What do I think?" his mother said. "Jump at it! Call them right now and tell them we accept! I don't think I could stand another one of those Canadian winters!"

Pescador - 1-13-2011 at 02:13 PM

I like Baja in the summer and would not miss it and I do not have the great south facing winds that Russ describes at Punta Chivato. Most small a/c units will run with a 2000 Honda or Yamaha and if you set it up right in an area that absorbs the sound they are very quiet. I had one set up and no one in camp even knew I had a generator and I built the walls from straw type bales that came from Constitucion and had louvered doors. When you live here and spend most of the day in the heat, you do not run the AC down to 75 or lower and most of us set it on 80, which with a little fan is more than comfortable and then your body does not go through shock when you go outdoors. The other issue for me was that the locals lived here all year round and most of them do not have AC, so I knew they did not all run up north at the first sign of a "warm day" like some of their weaker Gringo counterparts.
So give it a try and you might find that you like it, and if it is totally unberable, you can always run over to the other side at Asuncion or La Bocana for a week or two.

Pompano - 1-13-2011 at 03:02 PM

I once had a neighbor who suffered the heat so bad that my other neighbor and I had to air-evacute her San Diego's Lindbergh field where a waiting ambulance rushed her to the ER .......hmm..that sounds sooo familiar...

She survived,but it was a damn close call...the ER doctor gave her a 50-50 chance of making it. Heatstroke of course..and her house was running AC..but she was like most of us...outside most of the day in the summers. She was a real Baja Gringo veteran, having lived fulltime in the Bay since the 70's.

Here a fun recall from that day: I was flying co-pilot w/headphones and heard the control tower asking emergency traffic..US...if we could handle a high-speed approach? ...because we were coming in at a very high traffic time. Jetliners incoming and outgoing rapid-fire.

Well, being an ex-fighter pilot and commercial airline captain for most of his lifetime, my buddy grinned and said..."Affirmative tower, will execute high-speed approach".

Hah..like old times...
I recall we almost took the head off a fellow unlocking his car on an upper level parking garage when we came in on our 'high-speed approach.' Boy, was he ducking & diving...but shucks.. we must have been at least 4-5 feet above him. :rolleyes:

p.s. A very long time ago, we would stay out at sea in summertimes on my old Pompano and the world was a lot cooler. Of course we were a lot YOUNGER. Nowadays, almost everyone I know who 'are able' get to someplace cooler in summer..does. I mean nationals AND Gringos. Just common sense, no big deal. I've had heatstroke twice..there will not be a third time. Call me a weaker Gringo...but not too loud. :saint:

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absinvestor - 1-13-2011 at 03:43 PM

Pompano- you mentioned Alaska. We did Alaska for 3 months last summer and the weather was perfect. Our dog, Henry, (picture attached) enjoyed an occassional hunt.

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DavidE - 1-13-2011 at 04:42 PM

I "Took A Dip" one August afternoon off Burro Beach. The water was so hot it almost scalded me (water is hot when your skin stings a little even after getting out). I didn't have a thermometer but a hundred plus degrees would be a modest estimation.

Too hot for me. I remember Geary Ritchie, proudly trumpeting "It's a hundred ten degrees, but the weather changes minute by minute". I reached Guerrero Negro, 74 degrees and slept for 15 hours.

I much prefer the mainland where in three and a half hours, I can drive to cool pines at 7,000 feet altitude, when the late summer humidity finally gets to me.

Cooling off in Alaska...

Pompano - 1-14-2011 at 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by absinvestor
Pompano- you mentioned Alaska. We did Alaska for 3 months last summer and the weather was perfect. Our dog, Henry, (picture attached) enjoyed an occassional hunt.

Alaska has long been a favorite destination of mine. At first for employment in the fishing industry..and later for pure relaxation in a wondrous natural world.

Here's some OLD memories of my first Alaska venture..commercial salmon fishery, Bristol Bay...started in the 70's...summertimes of course!

I went 1/5th ownership in 5 drift boats and 5 permits..I was lucky to join up with some 'highliners' who made the endeavor a good deal. We sold to Peter Pan cannery by the pound. I got my original investment back twofold the first season, but it was extremely rugged work.

Also a very exciting way to make good money while trying not to fall in the freezing waters of Bristol Bay. If you did fall overboard during rough seas, which was pretty much standard weather, your life expectancy without a survival suit was about 15 minutes. (Who works in a survival suit??)

We did it all at one time or another..driftnet boats, setnets from shore, flying salmon with fixed-wing and choppers, plus one hydrofoil that came up from Seattle.

Above - We hauled just over 100,000 pounds of salmon on this driftnet tender one morning..paid us 10 cents a pound..not a bad half-day's pay.

Of course, shore accomodations were extra plush... :rolleyes:

The good part was..you didn't get to shore that much!

Once you have used your 'bird' for hauling salmon..there is little else you want to do with it...ugh...and phew! If your insurance is paid up, just leave it unattended on the tundra or beach. The bears will soon devour it!

Sportsfishing later on...

And scenic sidetrips are the norm..like this one to Hyder and one of the few glaciers you can drive to..and walk out on. Salmon Glacier.

Also a good place to get 'Hyderized'. :rolleyes:

Viva Alaska! The Baja of the North.

p.s. Sorry about the Hijack from Conception Bay heatstroke to Bristol Bay frostbite!

mackconsult - 1-17-2011 at 12:12 PM

Yeah I did black cod out of dutch, never got to see SE but maybe some day.

My main commercial stuff was salmon and tuna of the oregon coast, but also did crabbing and trawling ....

Settled for a engineering job .... now thinking alot about mexico.