BajaNomad - FM3 instruction received - this sound right to you guys?

FM3 instruction received - this sound right to you guys?

Santiago - 1-13-2011 at 04:29 PM

A couple of pretty nice Nomadians gave me a person in Ensenada who helps with the FM3 paper work and who sent me these instructions today. Does this sound right for those of you who have gone through the new process?
Thanks

Yes we can work it out in order for you to avoid any penalty, let me tell you the logistics:

Step #1
We need from you to scan us your FM3 just the following pages: 4,5,6,11 and 12.
Scan your passport just the front page.

Step # 2
We will do the hall process and we will send it to you back just for signatures.

Step # 3
You will send us all paperwork and a check for $XXX Dlls under my name XXXXXX, to our US address:XXXXXXX

Step # 4
We will submit the process to Immigration as soon is we receive the paperwork.

Step # 5
In about 2 or 3 weeks Immigration will tell us your FM3 is ready to pick up.

Step # 6
We will e mail you when your FM3 is ready for you to come and put fingerprints and signature.
You will have 3 month to come and pick it up. You will come directly to our office and we will send you to obtain your pictures at the same day. When you return from the pictures we'll go to Immigration so you can sign and put signature on your new FM3 and instantly you will have it.

I will report back on the process.

DENNIS - 1-13-2011 at 04:55 PM

I guess you will have the "paperwork" although she doesn't mention how you're supposed to get ahold of it.
She mentions sending paperwork and a check. If that means mail, I wouldn't do that. Perhaps mail it to someone who has a stateside mailing address and have it hand delivered.
I thought the fotos would go in with the paperwork. Mine did.

All in all....it looks straight up.

That'll be two cases of Pacifico. Thanks for your business. :lol:

DENNIS - 1-13-2011 at 04:58 PM

Oh...wait a minute....she didn't mention the secret handshake and the code ring. You should ask her about these things. :wow:

Santiago - 1-13-2011 at 05:15 PM

I scan and e-mail. The they send to me (mail I presume) the docs for sigs and I then mail that back plus a check to their address in Chula Vista.
Hey Denny,
You get through Murder City? I'm as third of the way and struggling so far.

krafty - 1-13-2011 at 05:39 PM

We had pix taken the same day as fingerprints and reciept of our card-just a couple of months ago

DENNIS - 1-13-2011 at 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by Santiago
Hey Denny,
You get through Murder City? I'm as third of the way and struggling so far.

I haven't even seriously started on it yet, Jim. It's right next to my chair getting frosty beer bottle rings all over the cover.
I have a couple of loose ends to attend to before I start it, but I will shortly.
Bowden can be difficult at times.

If you need any mail delivery or anything else down here, let me know. I have a San Ysidro address and I get mail once a week.

BAJA.DESERT.RAT - 1-13-2011 at 06:38 PM

Hola Santiago,

sounds like an easy process, thank you.

how much are the fees for doing this ?

gracias,

BIEN SALUD, DA RAT

durrelllrobert - 1-14-2011 at 11:58 AM

i believe "she" was the same person that sent the same instructions to a friend of mine's wife who couldn't get down to Ensenada to renew her expiring FM3 and was facing a large fine. Everything went like clockwork, she avoided the fine by just starting the process and when she got down here 2 months later she did the photo/fingerprint thing and picked up the new card the next day.

David K - 1-14-2011 at 12:14 PM

wow... and I thought bajagrouper made it quite clear that living in Mexico on property you lease or buy is all fine on an FMM :rolleyes:

Woooosh - 1-14-2011 at 12:46 PM

I just dropped off my FM3 at the service I use for renewal. The procedure had changed since last time. The service only photo-copied my US passport this time, when before they took it up to the office to be stamped and dated since I would be without my FM3. I presented the usual phone bill and bank statement. They did try to up-sell me to the FM2, but I decided to wait another year as my enthusiasm for becoming more Mexican is not what is was five years ago. The interesting change was that I was told to bring two photos with me when I come to pick up the FM3. I understood him to say the booklet would be replaced by a card, so they need the photos and me in person when that happens. I'll know in two weeks or so I guess...

Santiago - 1-14-2011 at 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
They did try to up-sell me to the FM2, but I decided to wait another year as my enthusiasm for becoming more Mexican is not what is was five years ago.

Yes, but at least you've learned how to post videos on You-tube.

Woooosh - 1-14-2011 at 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Santiago

Quote:

Originally posted by Woooosh
They did try to up-sell me to the FM2, but I decided to wait another year as my enthusiasm for becoming more Mexican is not what is was five years ago.

Yes, but at least you've learned how to post videos on You-tube.

and re-visited the art of self defense, just what everyone entering a Baja retirement plan looks forward to. You don't always get the retirement you planned for, so plan more carefully than I did.

David K - 1-14-2011 at 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by soulpatch

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
wow... and I thought bajagrouper made it quite clear that living in Mexico on property you lease or buy is all fine on an FMM :rolleyes:

Is that really productive David?
I know very long term residents who have bought, rented, lived in and sold houses with no problems.
It's Mexico........

Well Frank, to me the truth and facts are productive... Maybe many have done everything on a Tourist Card, but is it right to promote that as being safe and legal in Mexico? Is there no risk to living in Mexico with the wrong visa? I know it's Mexico and there are things many do here that are not to the letter of the law (drive over 50 mph on Mex. 1, drive on the beach to get to a camp or fishing spot, etc.).

After years and years of FM-3 talk on here and Amigos, why are you okay with one person's post that changes everything here? In the end, I hope we have a clear definition of what is required to become a part time resident and keep property in Mexico... which up to bajagrouper's post (and longleg's support), I had believed to be an FM-3.

I believe Nomad is far more than just a yak yak place for Baja nuts... I believe that untold masses find information here that they use to travel to Baja and increase the enjoyment of their trips. That those who wish to remain by obtaining a place, do so with the most accurate information.

I am totally willing to believe bajagrouper and longlegs that the FM-3 is no longer required to live part-time in Mexico and keep personal property there when I am not... But, I would think this is FAR too important to not hear from others who have done all the previous 'right things'...

I do trust what BajaRob has to say on this, and he already briefly stated bajagrouper is wrong.

I would like to hear from more people I know (like you) who can provide data otherwise.

Thank you everyone...

[Edited on 1-14-2011 by David K]

toneart - 1-14-2011 at 03:40 PM

We have all discussed this before. Many people buy or rent houses with only having an FMT (now FMM...basically a tourist card.) People will be glad to take your money and sell or rent to you without you having an FM3. What do they care?

It is like insurance. You will never know unless you have an accident, how good your policy really is and what is really covered.

In this case, owning a house and/or being a part time resident, you will never have a problem unless you have a problem! And we all know that problems are often the norm in Mexico. If there is any dispute, unless you have the FM3, you have no legal standing in court. You could lose everything and be subject to the whims of immigration, maybe even be deported. An FM3 allegedly affords you the same legal rights as a Mexican National.

Why take that chance?

David K - 1-14-2011 at 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toneart
We have all discussed this before. Many people buy or rent houses with only having an FMT (now FMM...basically a tourist card.) People will be glad to take your money and sell or rent to you without you having an FM3. What do they care?

It is like insurance. You will never know unless you have an accident, how good your policy really is and what is really covered.

In this case, owning a house and/or being a part time resident, you will never have a problem unless you have a problem! And we all know that problems are often the norm in Mexico. If there is any dispute, unless you have the FM3, you have no legal standing in court. You could lose everything and be subject to the whims of immigration, maybe even be deported. An FM3 allegedly affords you the same legal rights as a Mexican National.

Why take that chance?

Thank you! Now to comply with Frank... would you care to post that in the thread where it came up... That thread is called "FMM over and back" in the Q & A forum.

[Frank, all the time people will think of or bring up questions in posts that start out differently, no disrespect intended... ]

[Edited on 1-15-2011 by David K]

norte - 1-14-2011 at 06:43 PM

geeze DavidK, are you got a peso in disguise? or just his brother

David K - 1-14-2011 at 06:57 PM

I wish I had a peso for every post! What is his trick?

DENNIS - 1-14-2011 at 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
I decided to wait another year as my enthusiasm for becoming more Mexican is not what is was five years ago.

You don't become more anything. You're just a bit closer to getting it all over with. No more yearly nonsense.
The more you put it off, the more you suffer.

David K - 1-14-2011 at 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by soulpatch
No sweat David, that is why I brought it up to you, no and never any disrespect intended.
I just know that law in Mexico, like here, is open to many interpretations, Tone has his, you have yours and many others have theirs.
I guess an abogado.....might....just might.....be an authority. You never know.
As an addendum, you can have your stuff tightened down completely and if the vagaries of influence come your way, well, unless you have the money and time to fight in Mexican court, you lose.
Doesn't really matter which side of the border you are on for that scenario.

[Edited on 1-15-2011 by soulpatch]

10-4 that Frank!

Sorry for the hijack there Jim (Santiago)!