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Jumping Rays

Osprey - 1-20-2011 at 05:45 PM

Jumping Rays


We have a bug man, a bird man so I was wondering if we have a Ray man on the Nomad board. (Not Raymond)

Every season here on the East Cape holds some kind of strange and wonderful happening. This early morning I was awakened by what sounded like a herd of Clydesdales playing soccer on the beach road. Sounds get distorted on their way up from the beach and later in the day I discovered the sound was coming from large shoals of rays jumping close to shore. (I live 650 meters~from the water and it was still loud enough to wake me). By afternoon I could see them with my binoculars and was amazed at the size and activity of the school.

They are probably eagle ray so I decided to research on the internet about why they do their loud belly flops in a clumsy ballet (inline syncopation). I’ve always supposed that the sound excites the bait they are after and somehow gives them an advantage they would not enjoy if simply swimming and hoping to find close, slow food items.

As usual I got more questions out of my research than answers. Maybe somebody on the board can enlighten.

1. Eagle and bat rays are bottom feeders of crustaceans so my theory falls apart for them.
2. Mantas and mobulas eat mostly plankton so how would the movement serve them? (Mantas and mobulas are different families – the mouth of the manta opens at the very front of the animal – it is a few inches further back on the mobula)
3. Stinrays are mostly bottom feeders too and they took all the skin off my knuckles when I fed them in the Caymans; I couldn’t guess where the mouths were in relation to the nose and I held onto the squid too long – my bad.
4. So why would they bother to jump and flip endlessly in a certain kind of rhythm in line?
5. What unusual weather circumstance was in play to send that dancing Clydesdale sound all the way up the hill to my house?

Humboldt Chris and Robin - 1-20-2011 at 06:00 PM

We came up the west coast of Central America and Mexico on a Panama Canal cruise in November and we saw the same thing - rays jumping, doing flips, and belly flopping. They were all over the place from Panama all the way past Cabo.

maspacifico - 1-20-2011 at 06:03 PM

I hear that all the time at night too. Usually when the wind is blowing my way, or not at all. Loud enough to take notice. From watching on the kayak I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with feeding. It must be a mating thing, or, they just do it because they can? It's like watching popcorn pop when they really get going. When I paddle through a bunch of them I take the lure out of the water because I've snagged too many. Pretty neat to watch.

Diver - 1-20-2011 at 06:38 PM

I've seen the rays jumping when fishing off La Ventana.
I was told by a local that the action was to help dislodge parasites or barnacles.

Curt63 - 1-20-2011 at 06:49 PM

I saw jumping rays off La Ventana last June too. Not a school, but quite a few in one area. We were hoping they were marlin, but no........

[Edited on 1-21-2011 by Curt63]

bajarich - 1-20-2011 at 07:00 PM

At Los Frailes it seems to be common to hear the plop, plop, plop of rays hitting the water all night long, as well as seeing them do summersaults in the air in the daytime. I have come to the conclusion that they do it because it is fun. They look like they are designed to fly, and it must be quite an experience for them.

DanO - 1-20-2011 at 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Diver
I've seen the rays jumping when fishing off La Ventana.
I was told by a local that the action was to help dislodge parasites.


Hey, what an awesome idea. I've definitely got some parasites I need to dislodge.

:lol:

Sallysouth - 1-20-2011 at 08:13 PM

Diver is right!It is probably a fun for them too and feels good!

Skipjack Joe - 1-20-2011 at 08:37 PM

I just perused the internet and came up with nothing.

My opinion is that they don't do it for the jumping but for the landing. What impresses me is that don't jump forward and they don't enter the water as a diver, head first. No, they just splat down flat on those extended wings. Sometimes they just flip over and over straight upwards before coming down.

So, I believe that that impact is what they're after.

I think the answer has to do with the benefit that comes from that.

Lee - 1-20-2011 at 09:37 PM

Mobulas have the largest concentration in the Cortez area. Common on the Pacific side of Baja. Snagged (another) few days at Punta Lobos shore fishing. 10-15 pounds, dead weight in the sand, hassle getting off the lure, they bleed easy. MX eat them, I'm told. Little/nothing is known about them.

Ken Bondy - 1-20-2011 at 10:40 PM

Osprey

To my knowledge the only rays that commonly "jump" are mobulas. I have swum with and photographed mantas, mobulas, eagle rays, bat rays, torpedo rays, marble rays, southern sting rays, golden rays, and probably a few others and as far as I can remember, I have only seen mobulas actually "jump" and clear the water. The prevalant theory among marine biologists is that they do this to dislodge parasites, but if that were true it seems that all pelagic rays would do it, and they don't. So my theory is that, like whales, they just like it.




[Edited on 1-21-2011 by Ken Bondy]

DianaT - 1-20-2011 at 10:47 PM

And for some great pictures of these, check out this thread from a nomad who has become a good friend of ours.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=30622#pid3091...

And I like Ken Bondy's thoughts---it is just fun---sounds good to me.


edit---having trouble for some reason getting the link to work---works now



[Edited on 1-21-2011 by DianaT]

Stickers - 1-21-2011 at 12:38 AM

Given enough time 100,000 years or so I think they could be good flyers resembling a B-2 Stealth Bomber while airborne. It's nice to see Nature staying in-tune with modern aircraft designs.


;D

baitcast - 1-21-2011 at 10:01 AM

A great shot of these guys playing follow the leader.

DianaT - 1-21-2011 at 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by baitcast
A great shot of these guys playing follow the leader.


Pat and Cindy do really nice photography that can be seen on their website-----quite a few Baja Pictures are there.

Every Mile is A Memory

They are in Florida right now, but will be back in Baja---we wish it was going to be soon!

[Edited on 1-21-2011 by DianaT]

Baja&Back - 1-22-2011 at 08:27 AM

You watch them carefully - each Mobula will jump three times in a row.
Locals in Los Barriles say it's a mating thing. (but then, locals in Los Barriles think EVERYTHING has to do with mating) :lol:

baitcast - 1-22-2011 at 08:51 AM

:lol::lol::lol:

Mulegena - 1-22-2011 at 10:24 PM

I asked Mick Chapman director/instructor of Cortez Explorers Scuba Dive Center in Mulege. Mick has a degree in marine biology, has lived and dived all over this beautiful blue planet and knows his fish.

Here's what he said, verbatim:

"The rays that most frequently "jump" here in the Sea of Cortez from experience are Mobula. Sometimes tens of thousands of them all heading in one given direction. They are from the genus Mobula, a member of the Eagle Ray family, Myliobatidae. There are a few reports of the giant Pacific Manta, Manta birostris also jumping here in the Sea of Cortez, although sadly, I have not had the pleasure of seeing them.

I most certainly have seen Manta jumping though, that is M birostris, down in the Red Sea from Egypt south to Eritrea. I have seen as many as 18 of these magnificent beauties "playing" if you will, all at one go. This was at a very small atoll close to the Yemen, and we had these animals with us for five solid days. We left and sailed south, they did not. They looked like large white plastic bags when they used to go belly up and cruise the surface waters. They would jump, play, call it what you will, and come crashing down at any body angle, seemingly oblivious to any pain or harm.
I have seen one animal in particular basically dance with my female buddy at the time, turning first backward somersaults, then forward. Fish and woman danced together for some five to six minutes before this 4,000 lb beauty broken contact after ignoring me totally. She, that is the manta stayed close to my buddy the rest of the dive, yet never again "danced." The fish initiated the contact, Jacqui did not.

Having seen Mobula, Manta and even Eagle Rays jumping and cavorting almost endlessly at times, I believe they are doing two things. One, having fun, two, ridding their bodies of parasites. Having said that, I have seen Manta lining up at "cleaning stations" in such diverse places as the Red Sea, Celebes Sea (Borneo) the Indian Ocean and the Pacific. They line up and wait their turn for the cleaner wrasse to literally eat the parasites off their bodies as well as inside their mouths and gill rakers.

So to me, from my own observations and experiences, the rays in general, and here in the Sea of Cortez especially, the Mobula, jump for the two above mentioned reasons. Fun, and dislodging those parasites that the wrasse cannot, do not, or have not reached. And it must be remembered that there are, at least to the best of my knowledge, not such animals here in the Sea of Cortez as "Cleaner Wrasse." I do not know if there are any other species of fish, or indeed invertebrate that would/could perform such cleaning duties in this part of the world..

Mick Chapman
PADI Course Director 53358
Cortez Explorers
PADI 5 Star IDC Facility 21073

The Ocean is my playground
And the marine creatures, my playmates "

Ken Bondy - 1-23-2011 at 08:22 AM

Great information Mulegena, beautifully stated and from a man who has been there :) Thank you very much for this and thank Mick.

El Jefe - 1-23-2011 at 09:44 AM

Pancake Fish! That's what my neighbor Rod calls 'em.

Skipjack Joe - 1-23-2011 at 10:01 PM

Sorry Mulegena, but I'm not impressed with the man's conclusion that since there are no cleaning wrasses in baja the rays resort to jumping. These kind of connections are often made by biologists, especially on television programs, and just bring a smile to more seasoned scientists. Actually, it's amazing how often such tenuous conclusions are provided by authorities. This is particularly prevalent in the science of biology. Go to almost any natural history museum and you will hear explanations that will leave you scratching your head.

BTW, Alex saw a program recently that showed rays stunning baitfish with the shock waves produced by the impact on water. These fish were later consumed before they revived. When I reminded him that mantas and mobulas are plankton feeders I did not get a response. But the idea is interesting and could have merit in some species of rays since the camera showed it all. I don't think that's happening in baja as I have witnessed mobula feeding behavior.

Sallysouth - 1-23-2011 at 11:20 PM

Like I said, and Mulegena, and others, Feels good and is good fun!I kinda wish I could do just the same thing.Just imagine.....

Bajamick - 1-24-2011 at 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Sorry Mulegena, but I'm not impressed with the man's conclusion that since there are no cleaning wrasses in baja the rays resort to jumping. These kind of connections are often made by biologists, especially on television programs, and just bring a smile to more seasoned scientists. Actually, it's amazing how often such tenuous conclusions are provided by authorities. This is particularly prevalent in the science of biology. Go to almost any natural history museum and you will hear explanations that will leave you scratching your head.

BTW, Alex saw a program recently that showed rays stunning baitfish with the shock waves produced by the impact on water. These fish were later consumed before they revived. When I reminded him that mantas and mobulas are plankton feeders I did not get a response. But the idea is interesting and could have merit in some species of rays since the camera showed it all. I don't think that's happening in baja as I have witnessed mobula feeding behavior.


I would just like to add my tuppence worth here now directly, and not through Mulegena any more. My thanks to her for getting myself involved in this interesting conversation.

To reply to you directly Skipjack Joe, I write the following.

You wrote in your text on January 20th @ 2037 that, and I quote, “I just perused the internet and came up with nothing.” Unquote. The very fact that you have to peruse the internet for information would suggest that you know little to nothing about these animals other than from personal observations from a boat. A little like myself really, except I have had some 35 years of pleasurable scuba diving experiences, as well as topside experiences with all kinds of marine animals, including mobula.
You then go on to state that in your opinion mobula jump simply for the benefit that comes from the landing. Well, that landing has to be proceeded by the jump, so I would suggest that that “jump” and “landing” are really all one act. I’ll state again as I did via Mulegena on January 22nd @ 2224, that these animals jump for fun and for possibly ridding themselves of parasites. That sounds very similar to your own explanation above in that they receive some kind of “benefit” from such activities.

However, you then state on January 23rd @ 2201 that you disagree with my observations and thoughts. Fine, I have no problem with anyone, at anytime, disagreeing with me over anything, but please keep your own facts straight at the same time.

I don’t even mind if you are not impressed with my observations and thoughts, but please read my text via Mulegena correctly first.

In that text I stated that these were my personal observations. I never stated they were facts. I stated that they were my opinions. I never stated they were facts.
As to your own statement that I was suggesting that mobula only jump in the Sea of Cortez to rid themselves of parasites because there are no wrasse cleaning stations here (the water is too cold in winter, and too hot in summer for cleaner wrasse) please reread my text. I do not state that mobula resort (“only??) to jumping because there are no cleaner wrasse hereabouts. Mobula jump worldwide, wherever they are found, not just here in the Baja region because there are no cleaning stations. I have never seen mobula stationary, as I have manta, eagle and other rays. Mobula always seem to be heading off in one direction or another. I do not state my thoughts/observations as scientific facts.
And when, if one goes to a Natural History Museum, and is confounded by names, statements, observations etc that leaves one “scratching” ones head, might I suggest that the best way to stop scratching is to ask questions from the people that know, the scientists, the biologists or other “authorities” that the often “tenacious conclusions” came from in the first place. When I teach, no matter the level, I always state that there is no such thing as a stupid question. So might I suggest Skipjack Joe that next time you are confused, lost, left wondering and scratching your head, you ask people in the know questions. That way you’ll get answers, and stop writing somewhat tenacious conclusions of your own on Baja Nomad.

Let me state now, that I am no scientist, no biologist as a professional. I am just a very interested amateur that has a love of the worlds oceans, its inhabitants and that I scuba dive almost daily whenever possible. That way I learn far more than searching the internet, practically at least, and leave the academic stuff to experts whom I’ll ask any day of the week if I need answers I cannot find elsewhere. Yes, including the internet.

As Mulegena said, I do have a degree in Marine Biology, I do have 35 years of worldwide diving (14,000 plus dives) and travel experiences on which to glean my thoughts and observations from. Yet I state very openly, I am no expert on these matters. But certainly I am not an armchair internet expert either.

Finally, Baitcast: Thanks for such a magical photograph that you posted on January 21st @1001. Now that brings a smile to my face for sure.

Bajamick - 1-24-2011 at 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by Sallysouth
Like I said, and Mulegena, and others, Feels good and is good fun!I kinda wish I could do just the same thing.Just imagine.....


Good morning Sallysouth. You can if you wish have that freedom. Learn to dive somewhere (I am not selling my own company here) and then enjoy the freedom and three dimensional abilities not known to landlubbers. If you don’t dive already that is.
Learn to dive, it will change your life!!

maspacifico - 1-24-2011 at 12:07 PM

I think Sallysouth wants to jump, flip, and flap the wings!

Bajamick - 1-24-2011 at 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by maspacifico
I think Sallysouth wants to jump, flip, and flap the wings!


Trust me, Sallysouth, indeed anyone, can enjoy the freedom that comes with scuba diving. The ability to jump, from boats topside, or underwater from rocks to the sand safely below. To flip and flap ones wings (arms) in unison with the sway of the surge, the seaweed, the mantas flying by. No matter, the ocean gives us mere humans, strengths and properties that we do not have on land. Scuba diving is simply so much FUN!!

Skipjack Joe - 1-24-2011 at 02:32 PM

Wow, looks like I've hit a nerve.

Your second post seems to deny what you said in your first post:
Quote:

So to me, from my own observations and experiences, the rays in general, and here in the Sea of Cortez especially, the Mobula, jump for the two above mentioned reasons. Fun, and dislodging those parasites that the wrasse cannot, do not, or have not reached. And it must be remembered that there are, at least to the best of my knowledge, not such animals here in the Sea of Cortez as "Cleaner Wrasse." I do not know if there are any other species of fish, or indeed invertebrate that would/could perform such cleaning duties in this part of the world..


As I read this, it states that you think that mobulas jump because the Cortez lacks cleaning wrasses. That's quite a jump in my opinion. From having witnessed wrasses cleaning rays to suggesting that they jump due to their absence is a real stretch. You were asked a question and this is your explanation. Frankly, I don't buy it.

I like the idea that they do so to remove parasites but to go further and state that they do so because parasite removing fish are absent is very unlikely.

Regarding them doing it for 'fun'.

Of course they do it for fun. In the animal world everything is done either for fun or from fear. Everything that is beneficial is done for fun. That's how evolution works. First comes a behavior that provides benefit and then we become wired to like it. So saying that something is done for fun is not very illuminating. On the other hand saying they do it for no other reason than 'fun', I wouldn't agree with that. Hunting in the savannah is fun but running around with no purpose is not 'fun'.

I am sorry that my criticism has hurt your feelings but those are my thoughts.

There are many improbable statements that have turned out to be true. Perhaps yours is one of them. There is a discussion about continental drift on another thread. Certainly the people who first concluded that since the east coast of south america fits so nicely into the west coast of africa those 2 continents must have been together at one time. The jeers that came from that suggestion must have been ear splitting. Yet the work from Scripps expeditions proved them to be right. Perhaps your theory will be successful as well. But to me, it seems very far fetched.

As for your snide remarks about head scratching - save the anger.

Ken Bondy - 1-24-2011 at 03:29 PM

Posted by bajamick:

"And it must be remembered that there are, at least to the best of my knowledge, not such animals here in the Sea of Cortez as "Cleaner Wrasse." I do not know if there are any other species of fish, or indeed invertebrate that would/could perform such cleaning duties in this part of the world.."

Mick I have seen hammerhead sharks cleaned by king angelfish and barberfish in the Sea of Cortez (El Bajo and Las Animas) and by Clarion angelfish at Isla San Benedicto in the Revillagigedos. Perhaps these fish provide cleaner services for the bigger rays also, although I have never seen it.

Bajamick - 1-25-2011 at 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Posted by bajamick:

"And it must be remembered that there are, at least to the best of my knowledge, not such animals here in the Sea of Cortez as "Cleaner Wrasse." I do not know if there are any other species of fish, or indeed invertebrate that would/could perform such cleaning duties in this part of the world.."

Mick I have seen hammerhead sharks cleaned by king angelfish and barberfish in the Sea of Cortez (El Bajo and Las Animas) and by Clarion angelfish at Isla San Benedicto in the Revillagigedos. Perhaps these fish provide cleaner services for the bigger rays also, although I have never seen it.


Hi Ken: Thanks for the knowledge gleaned from first hand. I can now add that info to my limited knowledge base, with permission of course!! Isn't it magical when one see's such activities for oneself, and can pass on that knowledge. My thanks!!

One of these days I have to get to those dive spots personally, along with the myriads of other locations still on my list. One day, one day!! Thanks again Ken.

Bajamick - 1-25-2011 at 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Wow, looks like I've hit a nerve.

Your second post seems to deny what you said in your first post:

Quote:

So to me, from my own observations and experiences, the rays in general, and here in the Sea of Cortez especially, the Mobula, jump for the two above mentioned reasons. Fun, and dislodging those parasites that the wrasse cannot, do not, or have not reached. And it must be remembered that there are, at least to the best of my knowledge, not such animals here in the Sea of Cortez as "Cleaner Wrasse." I do not know if there are any other species of fish, or indeed invertebrate that would/could perform such cleaning duties in this part of the world..


As I read this, it states that you think that mobulas jump because the Cortez lacks cleaning wrasses. That's quite a jump in my opinion. From having witnessed wrasses cleaning rays to suggesting that they jump due to their absence is a real stretch. You were asked a question and this is your explanation. Frankly, I don't buy it.

I like the idea that they do so to remove parasites but to go further and state that they do so because parasite removing fish are absent is very unlikely.

Regarding them doing it for 'fun'.

Of course they do it for fun. In the animal world everything is done either for fun or from fear. Everything that is beneficial is done for fun. That's how evolution works. First comes a behavior that provides benefit and then we become wired to like it. So saying that something is done for fun is not very illuminating. On the other hand saying they do it for no other reason than 'fun', I wouldn't agree with that. Hunting in the savannah is fun but running around with no purpose is not 'fun'.

I am sorry that my criticism has hurt your feelings but those are my thoughts.

There are many improbable statements that have turned out to be true. Perhaps yours is one of them. There is a discussion about continental drift on another thread. Certainly the people who first concluded that since the east coast of south america fits so nicely into the west coast of africa those 2 continents must have been together at one time. The jeers that came from that suggestion must have been ear splitting. Yet the work from Scripps expeditions proved them to be right. Perhaps your theory will be successful as well. But to me, it seems very far fetched.

As for your snide remarks about head scratching - save the anger.


Oh dear me. It seems that there is a lot of confusion here. I would ask you where I state that mobula jump “SOLELY” as a result of there being a lack of cleaner wrasse here in the Sea of Cortez?? I simply stated that there is an absence of such animals hereabouts. Equally I stated that as far as I knew, there were no other fish or invertebrates that performed such services. To that I have been put right by Ken Bondy, see below and my reply to him. You do not have to doubt my explanation, you simply have to read it, and take it on board, or dismiss it out of hand. The choice is yours of course. So believe me, I was not stretching my observations, as I qualified it later by stating that I have never seen a mobula stationary. They are always on the move, and in being so, it would be extremely unlikely that a cleaner wrasse (or any animal performing such valuable tasks) anywhere in the world would leave the protection of the reef and fly out into open ocean where one mostly finds mobula. So please read my text as it was meant to be. No one else found the same problem understanding other than yourself it seems. So far that is of course.

“Of course they do it for fun?? Come now, I do not know of any scientist, biologist or other “authority” that would state such a thing as “of course” in that context. I cannot say, nor do I know of anyone else that says, “of course…” It was stated as my speculation, and not as fact.
Equally I would take some discourse with you on the fact that you state that everything in the animal kingdom is done for fun or fear. And everything that is beneficial is done for fun. Evolution does not work that way, as you state.
The fittest survive, not those having the most fun. If that were the case, I would live to be centuries old as I have fun most days of my life, but sadly, I am in the evolutionary chain along with the rest of the animal kingdom. Animals do not eat out of fun, nor fear, they eat to survive. Very few animals, with the exception of the apes and a few other mammals have sixx for fun. They do it to survive and pass on their genes. (I am happy I am a mammal I might add).
To use your expression, “wired.” We are all wired to survive, not to have fun, and to try to avoid fear whenever possible. It is just that some of us have more fun in life than others.
Running around in the savannah I am sure is no fun with no purpose, but then again, I would suggest that anything done without a purpose is no fun. Be that parachuting, scuba diving, running marathons etc, even watching mobula jump or having sex oneself, it should all be done with a purpose in life. I am being facetious true, but factual at the same time.

Truly, you never hurt my feelings, so there is no requirement for you to apologise. (English spelling there).

Oh so true. Many improbable statements etc. My ex wife stating that she was going to divorce me. Darwins theory of evolution. The missing links from the oceans to the land. That Baja is a dangerous place. The moon not being made of cheese, to name but a few.
I did like your example though of Abraham Ortelius (I think that’s how one spells his name) in 1590 something if I recall correctly, suggesting that the continents had separated. They still are separating by the way. It was not Scripps at all, but a geophysicist Jack Oliver, in as late a time as 1968. About the time I was into The Who, Floyd, The Stones, Deep Purple and Jimmy Hendrix etc. Virtually 400 years after Ortelius.

Trust me totally, that statement was not anger. I was being facetious again. Snide maybe, but I had actually deleted where I said something about wearing boxing gloves also to stop the scratching. That statement was factual, not a tenuous conclusion. If one has to scratch ones head because the subject matter is beyond ones comprehension (such as scientists/biologists writings) ask questions. Seek answers. Become informed.
Me?? I don’t understand many things in life. Some things I’ll ask questions about. Others I’ll simply let live. Others still, I take Darwin’s thoughts on board when he was first putting together the Origin of Species by Natural Selection. Again I quote, this time, the man himself, “I think!!
In other words, some things I know, some things I do not, and some things I care little about.
No that was not anger, it was an Englishman extracting the urine.

sjanny01 - 1-26-2011 at 01:09 AM

East Cape holds some kind of strange and wonderful happening. This early morning I was awakened by what sounded like a herd of Clydesdales playing soccer on the beach road. Sounds get distorted on their way up from the beach and later in the day I discovered the sound was coming from large shoals of rays jumping close to shore. (I live 650 meters~from the water and it was still loud enough to wake me). By afternoon I could see them with my binoculars and was amazed at the size and activity of the school.



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Iflyfish - 1-26-2011 at 01:35 AM

Leapin' Lizards! er, Mantas! You really threw a ray of interest in starting this thread Osprey!

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EMAM - 1-26-2011 at 08:37 AM

Lets just all agree that "Who cares why they jump", but all agree that it makes for some beautiful photography





Bajamick - 1-26-2011 at 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by EMAM
Lets just all agree that "Who cares why they jump", but all agree that it makes for some beautiful photography





Bajamick - 1-26-2011 at 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by EMAM
Lets just all agree that "Who cares why they jump", but all agree that it makes for some beautiful photography







Thanks for two stunning and beautiful pictures of fish in flight!!

Skipjack Joe - 1-26-2011 at 12:43 PM

Can't agree with "Who cares why they jump".

But I will agree that your images are fine.

Bajamick - 1-26-2011 at 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Bajamick
Quote:
Originally posted by EMAM
Lets just all agree that "Who cares why they jump", but all agree that it makes for some beautiful photography





Bajamick - 1-26-2011 at 12:52 PM

SORRY Eman!! It seems my skills with a computer are not as good as my say, diving skills!! Somehow it looks like I have tried to poach your picures under my name. I apologise totally. I was trying to state that I liked and enjoyed your pictures.

People out there, SADLY I did not take the pictures. Again Eman, I apologise. (English spelling BTW)

EMAM - 1-26-2011 at 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Can't agree with "Who cares why they jump".

But I will agree that your images are fine.


Thanks guys, glad you liked them!

DianaT - 1-26-2011 at 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Bajamick
SORRY Eman!! It seems my skills with a computer are not as good as my say, diving skills!! Somehow it looks like I have tried to poach your picures under my name. I apologise totally. I was trying to state that I liked and enjoyed your pictures.

People out there, SADLY I did not take the pictures. Again Eman, I apologise. (English spelling BTW)


That is a very nice thing you posted---but Pat and Cindy do have their marks on all of their beautiful photography. But too many people just don't think about using photos---and obviously, you do think about it. :yes

If you want to see more, including some that look like the bears are going to have one of them for lunch, :biggrin: check out their photo galleries---they are both really good photographers. http://www.everymilesamemory.com

This is one of my favorite photos --- it was taken in Bahia Asuncion ---It is Pat with Jisreal during some bike trials



Sorry for the small hijack. :saint:

Can't wait to have them back in Bahia Asuncion!:

[Edited on 1-26-2011 by DianaT]

windgrrl - 1-26-2011 at 04:36 PM

The rate of the jumps can be slow and high or fast and low. This week I saw them jumping longer distances, very quickly and low as if they were being pursued as prey.

So perhaps jumping could serves a number of needs, e.g. escape, surprise, attracting a mate, scaring their own prey, etc. I would bet the behaviour is tied to survival, since life in the sea is tough.