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So what's the canary in the coal mine for Baja?

805gregg - 1-24-2011 at 09:01 PM

Is it Pompano leaving?

motoged - 1-24-2011 at 09:22 PM

MrBillM moves in next door :lol::lol::lol:

bkbend - 1-24-2011 at 09:48 PM

People leave all the time, I'd lean more towards a soulpatch view. It's changed a lot in my 35 years of vacationing south but now that I can spend more time there (retired!!) it's still better than other alternatives for me.

Cypress - 1-25-2011 at 06:32 AM

On the east side, empty fish boxes. Pacific side still looking good. Everything inbetween is mystical.

mcfez - 1-25-2011 at 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by 805gregg
Is it Pompano leaving?


What am I missing here? Will someone fill me in please? Gods...I must had been asleep at the wheel again !

Cypress - 1-26-2011 at 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by mcfez
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Originally posted by 805gregg
Is it Pompano leaving?


What am I missing here? Will someone fill me in please? Gods...I must had been asleep at the wheel again !

bajacalifornian - 1-27-2011 at 10:24 PM

I think the canary would be America.

Skipjack Joe - 1-27-2011 at 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by soulpatch

I guess it depends when you started going and what your basis for comparison is.


Very wise, soulpatch.

The 'begining' is each nomad's first trip. And that explains much of the disagreement we have on this board as to how things should be.

I distinctly remember reading, as a kid, that Daniel Boone felt crowded if he saw the smoke rise from his neighbor's chimney. That was close enough. It was time to move.

mtgoat666 - 1-27-2011 at 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by 805gregg
So what's the canary in the coal mine for Baja?


i did not know there was a coal mine in baja :lol:

Pompano leaving this site?

mcfez - 1-28-2011 at 06:47 AM

Will someone throw me a bone here....what da hell is this post about ? :o

woody with a view - 1-28-2011 at 07:04 AM

he bugged out for fishing holes, further south i think. up and left baja. something about letting the better half take the wheel for a change.

i think he'd done it all here anyways.....

mcfez - 1-28-2011 at 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
he bugged out for fishing holes, further south i think. up and left baja. something about letting the better half take the wheel for a change.

i think he'd done it all here anyways.....


Wow!
Thanks for clarification.

DENNIS - 1-28-2011 at 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by 805gregg
Is it Pompano leaving?



I didn't know he was leaving for good. He only wanted to rent out his house.
I got the impression that he came to the conclusion that life is short and wanted to go out and look around for a while. After all....he is a Nomad. :biggrin: [I know. That's kinda corny, but it's true]

LaloinBaja - 1-28-2011 at 09:24 AM

Been Coming to Baja for 53 years...Had a house on East Cape (Pulmo)...Fishing in the Gulf has declined exponentially...Pacific (Asuncion Area and others) still good...Guess the commercial guys (Japanese longliners and seiners) have screwed the gulf. Had a good trip just 2 weeks ago to Mulege...Good yellowtail and pargo...

David K - 1-28-2011 at 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by LaloinBaja
Been Coming to Baja for 53 years...Had a house on East Cape (Pulmo)...Fishing in the Gulf has declined exponentially...Pacific (Asuncion Area and others) still good...Guess the commercial guys (Japanese longliners and seiners) have screwed the gulf. Had a good trip just 2 weeks ago to Mulege...Good yellowtail and pargo...


Did you ever see Tom and Shirley Miller (Hurricane Kathlene took down their place in '76 I think was the year)?

Cypress - 1-28-2011 at 03:04 PM

Pompano has pulled out, headed south. He's a fisherman. Good luck Pompano!:yes:

Woooosh - 1-28-2011 at 03:18 PM

I don't think there will be a "canary moment". It's incremental. If you see thousands of Mexicans running north past you towards the US border, it's time.

Cypress - 1-28-2011 at 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
I don't think there will be a "canary moment". It's incremental. If you see thousands of Mexicans running north past you towards the US border, it's time.

They are already running north. You must be looking the other way?:o

woody with a view - 1-28-2011 at 03:40 PM

a friend who i worked with who lived in 29 palms laughed when i bought a place over looking the coronado islands on the u.s. side.

he seems to think the mad dash would begin any day now and had armed himself, as all of the folks would soon be invading the high desert. i told him why would they go where the lack of shelter/water/food was most extreme?

Larry James just smiled and said he was ready!

tripledigitken - 1-28-2011 at 04:28 PM

I don't know what it is, but I feel it's closing in...........

To illustrate;

In October while visiting Punta Chivato I thought I would go down to Santa Ines. It's the turnoff heading south just before you go into the hills approaching Mulege.

It is on the southern end of Shell Beach. Have never been there. Thought I'd throw some croc's in the water and have a beer. 3-4 miles in on a pretty good road and you hit the beach, a very beautiful beach, with no one there, no one for miles.

Standing in the 78 degree water casting away watching Corvina or something similar chase my lure and tease me, I hear a sound behind me. A Marina stake bed truck with a dozen soldiers are out of the truck and 2 jefe's are approaching me. They ask what I'm doing there, I tell them.

:?::?::lol::lol::?::?:

They ask for my passport, license and copy all the information down. Then they ask me if I had seen any boats, I said no. I find out that it is a popular spot for drug smugglers to offload their wares, meet up with a truck which heads out to the highway..........

Off they went, and I did too as my little bit of paradise got a bit tarnished with my attitude as well.

It's ****ing everywhere. What's the chance of an encounter that could turn nasty? Hell I don't know, but now that incident is forever etched in my mind. Like the image of severed heads and bodies hanging from bridges in Baja Norte, etc. etc.

I'm not one to lament over the ways things were. Change is good, but not this change. Will I still go to Baja? Ya, I'm going next month. Will it be the last trip, I don't know.

I very close friend of mine has thrown the towel in on Baja. One that has been going down almost yearly for over 20 years.

Ken

DENNIS - 1-28-2011 at 04:53 PM

This site, BajaNomad, will serve a much larger purpose in the future. It will, along with select books, offer Baja as it used to be. A Baja that is no longer accessible to the adventurous traveler. Every day, the honored reality dies a bit more.
Thank God for what's left of my memory. I can honestly say I was here when it was the real Baja.

Cypress - 1-28-2011 at 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
This site, BajaNomad, will serve a much larger purpose in the future. It will, along with select books, offer Baja as it used to be. A Baja that is no longer accessible to the adventurous traveler. Every day, the honored reality dies a bit more.
Thank God for what's left of my memory. I can honestly say I was here when it was the real Baja.

I was about 20 yrs. too late, but have found other places that are only getting better.:yes:

Woooosh - 1-28-2011 at 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
This site, BajaNomad, will serve a much larger purpose in the future. It will, along with select books, offer Baja as it used to be. A Baja that is no longer accessible to the adventurous traveler. Every day, the honored reality dies a bit more.
Thank God for what's left of my memory. I can honestly say I was here when it was the real Baja.

I used to drive my 66 VW bus down Baja to surf in the early 80's. I remember more horses than cars on the main dirt road through Rosarito. Built my house at one spot I used to surf there too. I think many of us don't want to accept the reality today no longer meshes with our memories. It's the same for everyone everywhere on this earth though. I sure wouldn't want to be young again growing up in this world. We got the best of it. Could be worse.

Skipjack Joe - 1-28-2011 at 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

I sure wouldn't want to be young again growing up in this world. We got the best of it. Could be worse.


Quote:
Originally posted by soulpatch

I guess it depends when you started going and what your basis for comparison is.


These 2 comments should be linked together. Woooosh'es statement and soulpatch's observation. Everyone's standard starts with the first trip. Those posts we read now thanking us for tips and suggestions are from people who are now setting their baseline for baja and it has little to do with the past. They will fish in front of Russ' home at Chivato and be delighted with the experience.

Don't cry for me, Baja Surrrrr...

Pompano - 1-28-2011 at 07:19 PM



Hah..I see the rumor mill is grinding away...which is okay, it's all part of the experience south of the border. ;)

But...Who said I was leaving Baja?

Hells Bells..I could never leave my old mistress, we have way too much good history together.

As a matter of fact, I am driving OldSouthwind
down the Baja Road tomorrow..for round trip number 151 (roughly guessing)

Attention: Heading south from Chula Vista around noon tomorrow if anyone is in the vicinity and wants to caravan, ride point, ride drag, ride shotgun, and tell tale tales over a campfire.

I'm looking forward to some great yellowtail and pinto fishing...plus I need my Coyote Bay sunrises. I will be in Baja..on and off...for the remainder of the 2011 campaign. Leave Baja? Not on your life.

PLUS…I would greatly miss the ‘tasty treats’ of Baja….aaaahh…drool…


Yes, I have way too much heart-time invested in Baja to imagine the last half of my life without her. Plus, now that I have fewer house-anchors to steal away my time and energy, I'll have time to finish an old objective..a book about a personal life and times in Baja. No, no..it's not quite finished yet...nor is page one! But I consider it...'a work in progress'.

Piled up in Coyote Bay, I have a rooms full of photos, stories, journals, laughs, groans, events, and wierd happenings that beckon me to unpack, review, organize, save, shredd??, and finally write about...Baja. :light:



So...it's that time...the work will begin Very Soon. Very, very soon.. I am eager to begin...soon, soon.

Well.... maybe Soon after ..."the next boating day on the magical Cortez"...or maybe two days...three? Yeah! ;D After allo, we must be realistic about all that work. One simply cannot toil day in and day out...one needs to ...'relax'...or you get stale. Am I right?

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Opps..hmm...uh...that is, IF her majesty, Co-Pilot/self-appointed secretary/ramrod says otherwise...sigh.

It's a far, far different world these days, guys... :rolleyes:
My buddies say I smell better.



I will soon be back at my old Baja haunts...on land and sea... and cannot wait for that first bzzz...bzzzzzz.....bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!! as the bigeye bait is taken down, down..down.

Hey!, what are you waiting for? Someone engage the drag?...thumb the line?!...do something!.. besides smile...:smug:
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The last few weeks have been ...exciting. It’s all about being a NOMAD, right? Been to some places I could have done without, but was at some truly wonderful other places and events that deserve a story of thier own..but that's for a another time and thread.







Now it's all about..

"Baja Here We Come..again."

Pssst...Hey MacyMan..save my chair at the poker table. See you Monday at Santispac.

Well, we need some rest before the big push manana. So hasta la vista down Baja-way, mi amigos.




[Edited on 1-29-2011 by Pompano]

Cypress - 1-29-2011 at 05:51 AM

About that book?:D It't be a best seller.

drarroyo - 1-29-2011 at 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano




wow talk about beauty and the beast! Nice work Gramps!!!!!

[Edited on 1-29-2011 by BajaNomad]

Pompano - 1-29-2011 at 10:14 AM

Gramps? Did he just call me Gramps? Why..that young whippersnapper!

Sonny..you can call me whatever you like on the interent with impunity. :rolleyes:

Of course if you call me that in person at kilometer 108 south of Mulege, it could get a wee bit different...:bounce:

drarroyo - 1-29-2011 at 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano

Of course if you call me that in person at kilometer 108 south of Mulege, it could get a wee bit different...:bounce:


be ok with who you are. (you did post photos!)
I say Gramps with respect (especially respect of your 'fishing' skills :bounce:)

BajaGringo - 1-29-2011 at 04:14 PM

I have followed this thread for a couple of days, curious as to where it would go. The good old days of Baja? I have this nagging suspicion that many of our Nomads who first discovered Baja 50 or 60 years ago were told by the ¨old timers¨ around back then that Baja just wasn´t what it used to be. Same thing for those who arrived in the 70´s, 80´s and more recently. Nothing is as it used to be.

On a recent trip back to the Argentine northwest, I set aside a day to go up and find a little known, remote mountain village I had often visited when living in the foothills of the Andes a few decades back. The village had no electricity, no phones and only a few of the hundred or so residents even owned a vehicle as the nearest gas was over 100 km away. The little pueblo was full of creative artisans and the locally made cheese alone was worth the long and slow drive up the winding dirt road.

The trip to me was always something very special as it was like going back in time. Imagine my dismay to discover on this last trip that this little mountain pueblo is now littered with power poles and phone lines, satellite dishes and pool halls with almost every kid I saw listening to their iPod.

Nowhere on this planet is the same as it used to be. My guess is that the town where most of us grew up has changed dramatically as well. Fifty years from now these will be the good old days.

What matters most (IMHO) is the attitude we face each day now with. And with that I´m lighting the fire on the BBQ and tipping my CM glass.

Make it a great weekend Nomads...

;)

Pompano - 1-29-2011 at 06:55 PM

The Good Ol' Days.

People seem to get nostalgic about a lot of things they weren't so crazy about the first time around. That becomes increasingly easier as one gets older...

If you're yearning for the good old days, just turn off the air conditioning!


I love what Will Rogers said about the good old days..."Things ain't what they used to be and probably never was."

mcfez - 1-29-2011 at 07:39 PM

Pompano ....
I got to say this about you.....you got a sense of humor that is sharp and witty. I enjoy your readings much. Have a good trip.

Skipjack Joe - 1-29-2011 at 08:09 PM

BajaGringo,

A few months ago I decided to use the power of the internet to see if I could find anything about the village I was born, Tivat. So I typed in Tivat. And you know how google will add choices for any entered search that other people have used? Well, the word Tivat International Airport came up. So I got on google maps and couldn't believe my eyes. There was the runway not 100 yards from where I and my relatives had picniced and snorkled in 69. This was a village of no more than 1000 people that had virtually no economy and lived from summer tourism (mostly German) and what the sea provided.

BajaGringo - 1-30-2011 at 09:26 AM

Thanks Pomp and SJ for helping to make my point. The good ol´days are today - right now, this moment in time in which we are living. Rather than reminisce about something that once was (or wasnt), better we go out and grab today by the tail...

David K - 1-30-2011 at 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
I have followed this thread for a couple of days, curious as to where it would go. The good old days of Baja? I have this nagging suspicion that many of our Nomads who first discovered Baja 50 or 60 years ago were told by the ¨old timers¨ around back then that Baja just wasn´t what it used to be. Same thing for those who arrived in the 70´s, 80´s and more recently. Nothing is as it used to be.

On a recent trip back to the Argentine northwest, I set aside a day to go up and find a little known, remote mountain village I had often visited when living in the foothills of the Andes a few decades back. The village had no electricity, no phones and only a few of the hundred or so residents even owned a vehicle as the nearest gas was over 100 km away. The little pueblo was full of creative artisans and the locally made cheese alone was worth the long and slow drive up the winding dirt road.

The trip to me was always something very special as it was like going back in time. Imagine my dismay to discover on this last trip that this little mountain pueblo is now littered with power poles and phone lines, satellite dishes and pool halls with almost every kid I saw listening to their iPod.

Nowhere on this planet is the same as it used to be. My guess is that the town where most of us grew up has changed dramatically as well. Fifty years from now these will be the good old days.

What matters most (IMHO) is the attitude we face each day now with. And with that I´m lighting the fire on the BBQ and tipping my CM glass.

Make it a great weekend Nomads...

;)


Good story Ron...

Reminds of of Bahia de los Angeles before they brought in the power lines from Guerrero Negro about 4 years ago.

It was quite romantic to have the the town go black each night when the generator was shut down before then... So many stars...