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San Diego to San Ignacio by Motorhome

motoged - 1-29-2011 at 11:45 PM

Nomads,
What would be the driving time from San Diego to San Ignacio by motorhome if you drove "straight thru"??

I know all the blah blah about driving at night, etc....just want to know the driving time with only a few brief stops along the way.

This would include buying travel visas being purchased at Tijuana and a taco stop somewhere along the way.

I am guessing 14-16 hours:?:

Thanks for any comments from folks who have done it in a motorhome or who have pulled a large travel trailer.:saint:

captkw - 1-29-2011 at 11:49 PM

wow ,let's chill .......thank's.. yo madiha un casa rodonta para mexico voy frontera panama,con regresso.......does that answer your question???

captkw - 1-29-2011 at 11:54 PM

o..kay ..just take your time down.....if you think that you can plan it. and that is,,, what's gonna happen.!! stay where your at!!!cause that not's how god,life,baja work's...lot's of varible's.....ya know!!!!

mcfez - 1-30-2011 at 06:26 AM

motoged
Are you not leaving in a week or two for Baja with your bike?

Or am I thinking of someone else?

Bob and Susan - 1-30-2011 at 06:30 AM

pulling my big boat it was 10 hours from tj to guerrero negro

san ignacio is another 2 hours

figure 1 hour at the border and 1/2 hour every stop min

darkness does slow you down

the narrowest part of the road is between san ignacio and guerrero negro

there are animals in the hills just before san ignacio...be careful;)

captkw - 1-30-2011 at 07:36 AM

Lot's of time's in the morning,fog around G.N. thick,cant sea sh-t fog,,be avised.....out

dtbushpilot - 1-30-2011 at 11:12 AM

14-16 hours sounds about right under the circumstances you describe.....dt

Pompano - 1-30-2011 at 11:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
Nomads,
What would be the driving time from San Diego to San Ignacio by motorhome if you drove "straight thru"??

I know all the blah blah about driving at night, etc....just want to know the driving time with only a few brief stops along the way.

This would include buying travel visas being purchased at Tijuana and a taco stop somewhere along the way.

I am guessing 14-16 hours:?:

Thanks for any comments from folks who have done it in a motorhome or who have pulled a large travel trailer.:saint:


motoged..

I will tell you exactly in about 2 days or so. Leaving San Ysidro now heading south to Coyote in my 35' motorhome. I will time my driving hours to San Ignacio for you. MPH, etc.

I know pretty much already the driving time... but let's see what happens on this particular tri

[Edited on 2-1-2011 by Pompano]

toneart - 1-30-2011 at 11:38 AM

14-16 hours is about what it takes me when I am towing a boat or trailer. I usually make two overnight stops south of the border, so I am talking about actual driving hours. My stops are usually El Rosario and Guerrero Negro. I blast through San Ignacio and my destination is Mulege. That takes another couple of hours.

Obviously, I don't take unnecessary chances. I take it easy and I do not drive after dark. That is why I take two overnights, especially in the winter when the days are shorter.

motoged - 1-30-2011 at 01:43 PM

Nomads,
Thanks for the replies that answered the question....for the rest of
you ... :rolleyes:

Pompano, you will take a lot longer most likely as you know all the good places to stop and nosh along the way (Lutefisk tacos?) :biggrin:
... looking forward to your report in a few days...

McFez, 8 of us dirtbikers in a converted pusher schoolbus...:cool: We leave BC Feb 10th for about 10 riding days once we get there

DT, The plan still is to be ready to ride out of Ricardo's (R&B) Sunday morning...we leave BC sometime Thursday afternoon (although in the morning would be the smart thing to do, but "I am just a passenger":saint:

Toneart, Our intrepid leader thinks we can make San Ignacio by 9:00 pm if we cross at Tijuana at 5 or 6:00 am..... when I am in my own rig I follow the rules of "no driving after dark....eat tacos along the way....stop for a few pictures and a pee...".

Bob and Susan, I might drop by to say hello as I will be passing by once or twice in and out of La Purisima:light:




[Edited on 1-30-2011 by motoged]

djh - 1-30-2011 at 02:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged

8 of us dirtbikers in a converted pusher schoolbus...:cool: We leave BC Feb 10th for about 10 riding days once we get there

...we leave BC sometime Thursday afternoon (although in the morning would be the smart thing to do, but "I am just a passenger":saint:

Toneart, Our intrepid leader thinks we can make San Ignacio by 9:00 pm if we cross at Tijuana at 5 or 6:00 am..... when I am in my own rig I follow the rules of "no driving after dark....eat tacos along the way....stop for a few pictures and a pee...".


Motoged, My last drive down with a trailer (Last March, pulling a vintage Airstream down with a very capable one ton), my buddy and I happened upon a very grave scene about 20 miles before San Ignacio....

A fairly new red pickup truck had gone off the road very catastrophically.... (for whatever reason we were not aware of) ~ and several bodies lying in the dirt ~ a couple of cars had stopped just before us and were frantically waving us past (I believe to avoid any further incidents at-speed on the hwy.).

One oder woman in very bad condition was already in the back of another pickup at the scene, one still down by the barely recognizeable rolled and crashed pickup truck that seemed to be possibly alive, and at least two that looked to be beyond hope ~ all seemingly thrown from the truck as it rolled....

I tell you all of this to encourage you to use YOUR OWN common sense. You have the knowledge and experience w/ Baja 1 that some others on this trip may lack. "Intrepid" leader or not, there is just no reason to foolishly risk others' lives.

I'd suggest that you not break the common driving taboos just because you're part of a group or it is someone's conversion bus....

YOU know what can sometimes happen to common sense when a bunch of buddies are wired for an exciting adventure.... mix in a little adrenaline and possibly a cerveza from a lunch stop . . . and things can go south quickly.

IE. You're not just a passenger, you're a responsible person who may have the best ability in the group to keep it safe.

Sorry to rant, but what I saw last March is sticking in my craw since I first read your post.... I turned off my computer, went off to practice my cello, and a half hour later came back, logged on, and had to get this off of my mind.

Guess years of skippering a sailboat with others aboard, and being the designated driver have taken their toll . . .

Peace, Love, Fish Tacos, and a long life of fun . . . (be safe).

djh

Terry28 - 1-30-2011 at 03:22 PM

After doing that drive over 20 times I cannot agree more with djh, be smart stay alive!!

djh

DianaT - 1-30-2011 at 03:38 PM

Thank you---those things are always tragic reminders of the dangerous of that road----still have some pictures in my mind that won't go away.

toneart - 1-30-2011 at 03:41 PM

I too agree! I see bad accidents almost every trip. Most often they are overturned trucks because they go too fast. But I have also seen rolled sedans full of people in various stages of survival, or not.

DavidE - 1-30-2011 at 05:00 PM

Whenever I find myself getting into a rush driving in Mexico I'll take a moment and remind myself how many HOURS it would take for an ambulance to reach the scene and transport me to a tiny clinic that would be overtasked much more than to remove a splinter, or treat a head cold.

Regardless of anything else I will drive as slowly as what is required for me to arrive safely at my destination. That have being said, I can see myself easly requiring three days to get from the border crossing to San Ignacio.

I love the SCT route planner online. It claims that it takes 4.2 hours to go from La Mira Michoacan, to Barra de Navidad Jalisco. Last summer I left Las Peρas at dawn, ran into no traffic, and hauled ass up the coast of Michoacan. A K-Car with a V-6 and stiff shock absorbers. Seventy on the straightaways (40 mph zone) and stomach churning g-forces in the many curves. I made it in five hours, 25 minutes. I would not like to meet the individual who could do it in four. Hell, La Mira is twenty two minutes FURTHER than Las Peρas!

San Ignacio is what, 520 miles from the border? Divide that by sixteen. Gives an average of thirty-two and a half miles per hour. Does not include stops for Customs, tourist cards, gasoline, chow, or anything else. I remember all those curves, between Maneadero and San Quintin, then curves south of El Rosario and again south of Chapala. On mqny sections of tramos sinuosos I drove 15 ro 20 mph. I remember how fast I drove when I spotted an oncoming semi with his left tire placed right on the centerline. I remember slowing way WAY down as these guys whistled past.

32.5 mph average? Maybe for someone else, but not me, not while I am driving an RV, anyway.

Bajahowodd - 1-30-2011 at 05:14 PM

I learned a long time ago to toss my plans out the window. Seems like I almost never met my goals for miles traveled. Way too many variables. Besides, is not Mexico the nation known for "manana"? Just don't get the "haul burro" mentality. For me, just being there, wherever I am in Baja, is worth the price of admission.

captkw - 1-30-2011 at 05:31 PM

lets see, alaska and back 9 times,,,,panama and back 1 time b.c.s and back, some 30 times,,, did I mention almost of it,towing a boat (gotta fish) I have to say, djh, said it better than I could..........how do you make god laugh,make plan's..............driving the baja 1 ,,is like being on a 727....hour's of boredoom with moment's of shear terror !!!!!!! poco a poco

Pompano - 1-30-2011 at 10:27 PM

DRIVING TIME FROM TJ TO SAN IGNACIO

Okay..here’s my motorhome driving time….but only from Tijuana to El Rosario for today.

We got a little sidetracked here and there. Hey…it’s Baja! :rolleyes:

We'll finish the driving hours to San Ignacio 'manana'..we promise! For right now, we are sending this courtesy of Baja Cactus wi-fi in El Rosario. Next we have dinner & test the temperature of Mama's cerveza...then it light's out, wake up super early..and hit the trail.

Motoged....here's your actual driving hours so far:



Tijuana to Ensenada (via the toll road.)

(Some info on toll road: 3 tolls…53pesos 53 pesos 55 pesos)

Tijuana - Ensenada (north city limit) .........1 hour 15 minutes.

Ensenada malecon - Bufadora turnoff ..................35 minutes.

Bufadora - Santo Tomas ................................... 30 minutes

Santo Tomas – San Vincente ..............................35 minutes

San Vincente – Pablado Colonet ..........................30 minutes

P. Colonet – Camalu ...........................................25 minutes

Camalu – San Quintin ..........................................35 minutes

San Quintin - El Rosario .............................1 hour 5 minutes _________________________________________________

Total driving time Tijuana - El Rosario ............5 hours 30 minutes



(about 227 miles. Thank St. Chrisopher, we're not seeking any speed records. Good driving, Parnelli!...nary a dent and I never spilled a drop.)



Hey..that was good fun..and something for my 'pile of needful stuff' to boot. ;)

TO BE CONTINUED MANANA FROM SAN IGNACIO


mtgoat666 - 1-31-2011 at 12:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
8 of us dirtbikers in a converted pusher schoolbus...:cool: We leave BC Feb 10th for about 10 riding days once we get there

Our intrepid leader thinks we can make San Ignacio by 9:00 pm if we cross at Tijuana at 5 or 6:00 am.....


sounds like one leader with no sense, and 7 followers with less sense.
having driven that trip many times in cars, i think going that distance in one day in relatively slow RV is foolish, and pushing thru at night is just stupid. if y'all crash, please keep the carnage amongst your 8. have a good trip!

David K - 1-31-2011 at 08:48 AM

mtgoat666 is right (yah, I know...): When the sun goes down (or before), time to set up camp or find a motel... It is a vacation and not the Baja 1000.

When you push yourself into the night, driving late, even if you arrive safely, you stress your body out and also miss seeing some great country.

If it is so important to reach a destination sooner, then leave at sunrise the next morning.

I am guilty of pushing myself to get somewhere... but I wasn't leading 7 others into the unknown, either...

Have fun, relax, enjoy 'The Baja Feeling'!:light:

motoged - 1-31-2011 at 01:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
sounds like one leader with no sense, and 7 followers with less sense.


Thanks for sharing, Goat:rolleyes: Words of wisdom from you will be cherished forever:biggrin:

Our intrepid leader (sort of) has read the posts and seems to have come to his senses...not that he was as stupid as Goat would believe :saint:

Isn't it wonderful how a simple question gives rise to a plethora of unsolicited basura:?:

Pompano, good to see you are still in the 'hood;D and thanks for the detailed breakdown of times.

I will look for you between Feb 14-16th while I am in the Mulege area to say hola :coolup:

bent-rim - 1-31-2011 at 02:38 PM

I've had to drive at night out of necessity in Baja and it can be dangerous but it's doable. Go slow, there's lots of cows out there and I wouldn't pass anybody. When driving in the States at night I use the oncoming headlights to judge whether it's safe to pass, however, in Baja I've noticed alot of cars driving at night with no headlights, turns out they're "saving" them. I don't recommend it but I'll bet a bus full of hosers will do ok.

[Edited on 1-31-2011 by bent-rim]

motoged - 1-31-2011 at 04:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bent-rim
..... I'll bet a bus full of hosers will do ok.


Hey, like take off, eh! :lol::cool:

If you didn't air-down so much, like you wouldn't bend the rim, eh!

Hoser: Canadian term referring to someone clumsy or stupid who drinks beer excessivly.

We should fit right in with many Nomads,eh! :biggrin:

elgatoloco - 1-31-2011 at 05:01 PM

http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomical-applications/data...

Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Guerrero Negro (longitude W115.3, latitude N28.0):

Tuesday
15 February 2011 Universal Time - 7h

SUN
Begin civil twilight 06:55
Sunrise 07:19
Sun transit 12:55
Sunset 18:32
End civil twilight 18:56

MOON
Moonrise 14:53 on preceding day
Moonset 05:01
Moonrise 15:58
Moon transit 22:56
Moonset 05:49 on following day

Phase of the Moon on 15 February: waxing gibbous with 91% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.

Full Moon on 18 February 2011 at 01:37 (Universal Time - 7h).

Pompano - 1-31-2011 at 07:26 PM


CONTINUED - TRAVEL TIMES

Okay, we continue from where we stopped yesterday at El Rosario:

El Rosario – Catavina ……………………………1 hour 40 minutes

Catavian – BOLA turnoff ………………………..1 hour 10 minutes

BOLA turnoff - Jesus Maria ……………………1 hour 5 minutes

Jesus Maria - GN checkpoint………………………………25 minutes

GN – Vizcaino…………………………………………………….50 minutes

Vizcaino – SAN IGNACIO…………………………………….60 minutes
_______________
Subtotal hours El Rosario – San Ignacio 5 hours 5 minutes


MY ACTUAL TOTAL DRIVING HOURS FROM TIJUANA – SAN IGNACIO

10 HOURS 35 MINUTES


(about 540 miles)



motoged - 1-31-2011 at 08:15 PM

Pompanao,

Muchas gracias, senor :bounce::saint:

captkw - 1-31-2011 at 08:21 PM

motoged,baja will accomadate 8 more

David K - 2-1-2011 at 12:09 AM

Roger, what happened at the Eagle Monument/ State Border?

i.e., did they ask for your tourist card or FM-3?

Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos?

mcfez - 2-1-2011 at 07:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K

Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos?



David....what is this? Seriously. They charge for inspections and spraying for what?

Or did I miss something here and posted a very stupid question? :(

Pompano - 2-1-2011 at 07:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Roger, what happened at the Eagle Monument/ State Border?

i.e., did they ask for your tourist card or FM-3?

Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos?


It was very early..barely dawn..when I pulled in at the Parallel 28 highway checkpoint. Also drizzling and cool, so it was no wonder nobody was outside at the booth.

I stopped and waited a bit, then finally 2 guys came out..said one said good morning..asked me if I had any frutas? Munching on my banana, I said .."Not any more...gulp."

The guy smiled... and then I asked how much was the spray today? I knew already of course...and handed him a couple 10 peso coins. (It's been 20 pesos since forever.)

They never asked for any ID's..tourist visas, my FM 2, etc..nor if I had any meat products. They have not asked for any of those items for quite a while now. Going north is a little different, as they 'sometimes' ask for visas, ID's, etc.

The odd part was...as I drove away and across the built-in undercarriage sprayer, nothing happened..no spray..nada?

Hmm..? Your guess is as good as mine. All I can say is...nothing in Baja surprises me anymore.

edit: mcfez..just saw your question. They have been checking for fruits and meats coming from the north for many years now. Part of the controll program for contaminated fruits..(insects, etc) and meats (thanks to the Mad Cow scare from Alberta a few years back..remember?)

This photo is from yesterday morning at the checkpoint..





[Edited on 2-1-2011 by Pompano]

GN CHECKPOINT.JPG - 49kB

dtbushpilot - 2-1-2011 at 07:04 PM

Hey Ged, just got home to BV, weighing in a little late but better than never.
I was standing in line to get inspected at the border when Pompano pulled out of the inspection area. I would have stopped him to introduce myself but he was concentrating on getting out without hitting anything so I didn't bother him.
They looked in the trailer and for the first time since I've been crossing with motorcycles asked to see the registration then tried to find the VIN number, I didn't help much but was hoping they wouldn't make me unload it. He gave up and let me go, total time at the border:30 minutes.
I took off to try to run Pompano down but was unsuccessful. I drove between 60 and 65 mph on the straight sections and wasn't in too much of a hurry and got to San Quintin at 5:00. I had to stop twice to tie the bike back down. It tried unsuccessfully to escape from the trailer, I narrowed the problem down to the tire changing stand (yes, I travel light) bouncing against the release tab of the tie down. I stayed at Jardines...hard to beat.
Took off at about 7:30 heading South. Picked up the pace a bit and was doing about 65 to 70 mph on the straight road.
I arrived in San Ignacio 7 hours later without stopping for anything but gas and checkpoints.
Total time: 12 hours. Keep in mind that the first days travel was on Sunday which is the best day for traveling in Baja. The stretch between Ensenada and San Quintin can be brutal on the wrong day and time....like Saturday or during the week.
I drove fairly conservative as I was pulling a small trailer but I doubt that you will make better time than I did. Don't try to compete with co-pilot, she obviously learned to drive in Italy.
I know you and your friends are Baja veterans so I won't add to what has already been said except to say that: I know you want to have 10 days of riding, 9 days are a lot better than no days.....nuff said.
I will be at Ignacio Springs, if your friends scare you have them drop you off and I will come up and get you.....looking forward to meeting you and your friends and seeing some country.
be safe.....dt

[Edited on 2-2-2011 by dtbushpilot]

woody with a view - 2-1-2011 at 07:14 PM

don't tell anyone.... cross at 3.5-4am and until sun up you are on the toll road or cruising thru ensenada/maneadero and pulling the hills towards the santo tomas checkpoint as the sun comes into your grill(s)..... nary a care in the world!

David K - 2-1-2011 at 07:25 PM

Deno, for over 10 years they have been spraying the undersides of you car as you enter Baja Calif. Sur on Hwy. 1...

They charged 10 pesos originally I thought, and then 20 pesos. The guy wearing the gas mask asked me for a beer, but accepted a soda (or visa-versa) in 2001.

Also at the state border... just south of the traffic circle/ monument, the immigration officer walks up to your window and asks (or used to ask) for your papers (tourist card)... and sometimes did as you drove back north, too.

dtbushpilot - 2-1-2011 at 08:04 PM

When I came through around noon yesterday they asked about veggies but didn't ask for 20pesos and didn't spray my car. They probably realized that they had run out of spray when Pompano went through a few hours earlier......dt

Pompano - 2-1-2011 at 08:49 PM

dt...I am truly sorry we did not get a chance to meet. Our trip was..shall we say...'fast'....and some of it was at night.

Next time for sure.


Glad you were riding drag...just in case.

[Edited on 2-2-2011 by Pompano]

dtbushpilot - 2-1-2011 at 09:04 PM

I kept an eye out for you, I stopped and said hi to Mike and Roz in Mulege on the way by, would have stopped at your place but wasn't sure where it was. I'll be back up that way with those crazy canuks in 2 weeks, maybe we can meet up then....dt

windgrrl - 2-1-2011 at 09:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Roger, what happened at the Eagle Monument/ State Border?

i.e., did they ask for your tourist card or FM-3?

Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos?


Came through in Dec. 2010 with a 23' lightweight RV. Paid and got sprayed by some weak solution. Transport truck in front of us was opened and checked. Back doors swung open to reveal a truck full of ice chips.

It's worth watching the speed limits taking regular breaks and getting camped before sunset. We crossed early in Tecate, stopped at Catavina day one, Loreto on Day 2 and finished up in the East Cape by mid afternoon on Day 3.

My tip is to stock up on low-sugar protein drinks and bars, freeze a bunch of high protein cooked meat-free meals like Tofurkey sandwiches on thick bread and bean burritos to thaw on the dash so you don't have to cook or stop for meals. Stay healthy, get a good sleep and fill a thermos with espresso at breakfast. Make frequent, quick pit stops and take brief walks at PEMEX stations. Once you reach your destination safely...it's margie time!

Enjoy your trip!

DavidE - 2-1-2011 at 09:38 PM

I like to carry some cans of "Old Milwaukee". They'll ask for a cerveza the first time but I guarantee you they won't thereafter. At one reten way down in Mexico I gave a mooching state cop half a roast beef sandwich smeared with tule lake horseradish set between sourdough buns. His face turned purple and for a moment I was afraid he was going to draw his gun on me.

dtbushpilot - 2-1-2011 at 09:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by windgrrl
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Roger, what happened at the Eagle Monument/ State Border?

i.e., did they ask for your tourist card or FM-3?

Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos?


Came through in Dec. 2010 with a 23' lightweight RV. Paid and got sprayed by some weak solution. Transport truck in front of us was opened and checked. Back doors swung open to reveal a truck full of ice chips.

It's worth watching the speed limits taking regular breaks and getting camped before sunset. We crossed early in Tecate, stopped at Catavina day one, Loreto on Day 2 and finished up in the East Cape by mid afternoon on Day 3.

My tip is to stock up on low-sugar protein drinks and bars, freeze a bunch of high protein cooked meat-free meals like Tofurkey sandwiches on thick bread and bean burritos to thaw on the dash so you don't have to cook or stop for meals. Stay healthy, get a good sleep and fill a thermos with espresso at breakfast. Make frequent, quick pit stops and take brief walks at PEMEX stations. Once you reach your destination safely...it's margie time!

Enjoy your trip!


Tofurkey sandwiches:lol::lol::lol::lol:......now that's funny, I don't care who you are.....

windgrrl, I'm in BV, lets get together for a beer......dt

mcfez - 2-1-2011 at 10:31 PM

Thanks for explanations Pomp and David

It's all news to me! Asleep again I must be

Baja&Back - 2-2-2011 at 09:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dtbushpilot
They looked in the trailer and for the first time since I've been crossing with motorcycles asked to see the registration then tried to find the VIN number,


Yep. Seems to be a new priority. At San Ysidro, they asked for the registration on my quad, for the first time.

The fruit guys at GN told me the Migracion office was permanently closed. Quien sabe?

Problem with RVs

Lee - 2-2-2011 at 11:12 AM

Going South years ago, going up a grade before San Ignacio, driving my '02 Class C, a caravan of 5th Wheels were heading North and passing me. Someone in the middle of the pack tried playing catch up, coming down the grade too fast, riding the middle of the road, and I saw that he was going to hit me head on. The other option was me going off the road to my right and certain death because of the drop off.

I saw the terror in the eyes of the white head driving a one ton, hauling a 5th Wheel, as he hit my driver side mirror smashing it out. I was lucky the pod holding the mirror didn't swing into my window. For the record, I saw this coming, slowed down, and got hit anyway. How far was my stock mirror sticking out? A foot?

In Loreto at The Riviera that night, a caravan going South pulled in. An expensive Class A had had the same experience -- a vehicle (don't know what kind) going the other way nailed his mirror.

I moved my passenger mirror to the driver side but was then blind on the passenger side. Tried to pick up a mirror in San Ignacio and Santa Rosalia but no luck. It was a nightmare esp. in La Paz not seeing out the passenger side for lane changes.

I now pull my mirror in close enough to just see out the side. I was lucky and shaken.

Pompano - 2-2-2011 at 12:05 PM

Hola, Baja and Back.

Look what I saw at the Chula Vista KOA last weekend...took this photo just before heading south to Baja.

Looks like a good exposure spot. :yes:




Caravaning:



Personally I like and use caravans when the situation dictates..and also love to solo adventure camp. It's always good to have choices..why would I want to be biased and cheat myself out of a great time with amigos? Can't see why anyone would badmouth them. They bring lots of money to Baja and our merchants...as do the solo campers.


Here's a couple of places I like to caravan with 2-3 others.

White Tanks, Baja - Pacific side, Agua Verde, Baja Sur, Cortez side, Catavina Rocks.



Alaska Highway..this lake/river was loaded with trout! I go back almost every summer.




My thoughts on caravan and the Baja Road:

In over 150 round trips on the Baja Road, I can't remember one time ever being 'really inconvenienced' by a caravan. No more so then a semi-truck or a bad 4-wheel driver. Large RV drivers are normally good, courteous, and experienced drivers. Of course, this is my experience only...but I'm still pretty 'aware' of what's happening on the Road. I've seen it all out there, believe me. ;) Note: CB radios with the hailing channel showing are very helpful, but that was a long time ago..don't see too many CB's anymore??

At one time, long ago..when the highway/pavement was just completed..the common joke about RV caravans was that they were .. "A swarm of locusts descending on our little village of Mulege...sucking up all the beer, propane, gas, groceries, and tacos."


South of Mulege about 14 miles: Below is a 100 unit caravan of Airstreamers camped next to a then-new Posada in winter of 73-74..or was it 75? ;D



Us 'locals' thought we would never see another Pacifico...


Of course that was utter nonsense....but it made for good conversations with the locals! ;)

I once attended an Airstream rally outside of Winnipeg, Manitoba..summer of '76. There were over 5000 silver bullets in that bunch..wow! Came from all over the continent..it was a zoo, but FUN.


Some other 'caravans' ...







Sorry for this tangent highjack. Now..about that driving time from Tijuana to San Ignacio..Did we get that straightened out to everyone's satisfaction? :rolleyes:

p.s. Hi Lee, just read your post about your mirror..wow. Glad that was all that got broken. I lost both my motorhome mirrors on a trip I made north in mid-December. Both to reckless semi-drivers..the left one was taken out by a truck WAY over the center line..and the other slammed my right mirror when I was passing him. I'm sure I could smell the brandy from my driver's seat...

I am lucky, I guess..but have never had any accidents with the caravaners. Knock on Wood!



[Edited on 2-2-2011 by Pompano]

motoged - 2-2-2011 at 12:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
dt...I am truly sorry we did not get a chance to meet. .....

Glad you were riding drag...just in case.

[Edited on 2-2-2011 by Pompano]



Pompano,
How did you know David was wearing his skirt? :lol::lol:

motoged - 2-2-2011 at 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
don't tell anyone.... cross at 3.5-4am and until sun up you are on the toll road or cruising thru ensenada/maneadero and pulling the hills towards the santo tomas checkpoint as the sun comes into your grill(s)..... nary a care in the world!



Woody,
Sssshhhhh !!! That is our latest plan....don't tell anyone...:cool:

motoged - 2-2-2011 at 12:47 PM

Pompano said:
"Sorry for this tangent highjack. Now..about that driving time from Tijuana to San Ignacio..Did we get that straightened out to everyone's satisfaction?"

Yes, and thanks again for your and everyone elses's replies:saint:

I have an obsession with Airstreams, so that pic of a herd of them on the beach is great !!!

As is ofte n the case on BN, "There is no way to get off track in this conversation." :biggrin:

dtbushpilot - 2-2-2011 at 12:54 PM

Ged, you probably already know but you can't bring gasoline across the border in gas cans. We've done it lots of times and had to pour it in our vehicle or someone elses a couple of times when they caught us.

motoged - 2-2-2011 at 01:07 PM

David, yep...thanks for the reminder:saint:

Sorry about the skirt comment....just couldn't resist the set-up :biggrin:

I think I have the 690 Safari tank sorted out...will see on Saturday....if not, I can get the 450 ready in a day.

One way or the other, we should be at R&B sometime Sunday (13th)....

Looking forward to meeting you and sharing some riding....:yes:

windgrrl - 2-6-2011 at 08:04 PM

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Roger, what happened at the Eagle Monument/ State Border?

i.e., did they ask for your tourist card or FM-3?

Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos?


Came through in Dec. 2010 with a 23' lightweight RV. Paid and got sprayed by some weak solution. Transport truck in front of us was opened and checked. Back doors swung open to reveal a truck full of ice chips.

It's worth watching the speed limits taking regular breaks and getting camped before sunset. We crossed early in Tecate, stopped at Catavina day one, Loreto on Day 2 and finished up in the East Cape by mid afternoon on Day 3.

My tip is to stock up on low-sugar protein drinks and bars, freeze a bunch of high protein cooked meat-free meals like Tofurkey sandwiches on thick bread and bean burritos to thaw on the dash so you don't have to cook or stop for meals. Stay healthy, get a good sleep and fill a thermos with espresso at breakfast. Make frequent, quick pit stops and take brief walks at PEMEX stations. Once you reach your destination safely...it's margie time!

Enjoy your trip!


Tofurkey sandwiches:lol::lol::lol::lol:......now that's funny, I don't care who you are.....

windgrrl, I'm in BV, lets get together for a beer......dt


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