BajaNomad - From Fox News...Earthquake for West Coast??

From Fox News...Earthquake for West Coast??

sanquintinsince73 - 3-17-2011 at 03:16 PM

Former USGS guy predicting seismic activity for West coast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQXDt4VdS0E

cbuzzetti - 3-17-2011 at 03:26 PM

Anyone could predict that an earthquake will happen in an earthquake zone.

But can you do that and keep everyone afraid. That is what Fox does best. :lol:

Cypress - 3-17-2011 at 03:46 PM

It started with the Y2K hysteria and has been nonstop 24/7 since then. Bird flu! Swine flu! Global Warming! Solar flares! By the time Dec. 21, 2012 rolls around people will be going bonkers. :biggrin:

Jim/Liisa - 3-17-2011 at 03:48 PM

A new report released today in the Kremlin prepared for Prime Minister Putin by the Institute of Physics of the Earth, in Moscow, is warning that the America’s are in danger of suffering a mega-quake of catastrophic proportions during the next fortnight (14 days) with a specific emphasis being placed on the United States, Mexico, Central America and South American west coast regions along with the New Madrid Fault Zone region.

This report further warns that catastrophic earthquakes in Asia and the sub-continent are, also, “more than likely to occur” with the 7.3 magnitude quake in Japan today being “one of at least 4 of this intensity” to occur during this same time period.

Raising the concerns of a mega-quake occurring, this report says, are the increasing subtle electromagnetic signals that are being detected in the Earth’s upper atmosphere over many regions of the World, with the most intense being over the US Western coastal and Midwest regions.

Important to note are that Russian and British scientists are at the forefront of predicting earthquakes based on these subtle electromagnetic signals and have joined in an effort to put satellites in space to detect more of them.

More ominously in this report are Russian scientists confirming the independent analysis of New Zealand mathematician and long-range weather forecaster, Ken Ring, who predicted the deadly Christchurch quake and this week issued another warning of a quake to hit on or about March 20th.

Ring explains his methodology for predicting earthquakes as follows:

“The planets very much affect the earth, indirectly, by having an effect on the Sun. Some planets are very large. If the Sun was a basketball the gas giants Jupiter and Saturn would be the size of grapefruits, and the Earth would be, on that scale, the size of a peppercorn.

Jupiter and Saturn cause extra tides on the Sun when they get on either side of the Sun (as with Moon – Earth-Sun when the moon is full) and when these gas giants get on the same side as the Sun, (as with Earth -Moon – Sun when the moon is new). These greater solar tides become sunspot activity and solar flares and can be understood as akin to the increase in tides caused by the Moon when it too gets alongside Earth or opposite Earth.

At the moment we have Jupiter and Saturn on either side of the Sun and creating a tug of war with Earth in the middle. That started last September and will continue until about May. In September the Earth was right in line with Jupiter, Saturn and the Sun too.

That’s why there were several 7+ earthquakes around, it wasn’t just us. For instance there was one in Pakistan on the same day as Christchurch. This Jupiter/Saturn alignment continues until about May, and the Earth comes back into line as well in March. It is why there may be an extreme event, perhaps a large earthquake, around 20 March, which is when the Moon may be again in a trigger position.”

According to this report, however, where Ring is correct in assessing blame for our Earth’s earthquakes on the Sun and Planets, his substituting of Perigean Spring Tides (also known as King Tides) for the low pressure systems associated with them may be incorrect.

The mention in this report of massive low pressure systems being associated with catastrophic earthquakes is especially dire to the United States Midwestern region, which even today is continuing to be pounded by horrific rainfall amounts, and most especially impacting the New Madrid Fault Zone State of Arkansas which has suffered over 800 earthquakes in the past 6 months alone.

Equally in danger, this report continues, is the South American Nation of Bolivia which has, likewise, suffered catastrophic low pressure system storms that in the past week have killed over 52 people.

Most ominous in this report, though, is its warning that the fault-riddled State of California may be about to suffer its most catastrophic earthquake in decades as new reports for this region show the mass death of millions of fish [photo bottom left] is now occurring, and just like the mass stranding of whales on New Zealand beaches days prior to the February 22nd destruction of Christchurch.

Making the situation for our Planet even grimmer are the reports that our Sun is continuing to spew forth massive solar flares, the latest warned to hit our Earth today or tomorrow thus prompting the Hermanus Space Weather Warning Centre (SWWC) to issue a Solar Flare warning for the Southern Hemisphere.

Interesting to note in all of these events is the United States Army announcing this week that it is holding a rare training event involving the US Military, the CIA, Canadian officers, US Treasury and State departments, the US Agency for International Development, the Defense Threat Readiness Agency and the International Red Cross between March 21-25 at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, and which should the worst happen they will certainly be prepared for it.

As this report concludes, that as of yet, “no firmly reliable” method for predicting earthquakes has been scientifically recognized, it is well worth noting the too many to be ignored anomalous coincidences leading up to catastrophic mega-quakes are breaking out all over the World and should only be ignored at ones peril.

In other words, it is always best to be prepared should disaster strike, wherever the warning comes from.

This I found on another site...

Cypress - 3-17-2011 at 04:01 PM

Timo1 - 3-17-2011 at 04:01 PM

The earthquake forecaster I seen today said that the New Madrid fault is the next one to watch.....Tennessee

wessongroup - 3-17-2011 at 04:01 PM

Be Prepared: The Motto of the Boy Scouts of America .......

sanquintinsince73 - 3-17-2011 at 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
Be Prepared: The Motto of the Boy Scouts of America .......

Being from L.A. I've lived thru a bunch of shakers. The first sizable one that I remember was the Sylmar quake in the early 70's. Basically I just shrugged them off as a product of a very unstable planet that we live in.
Recently though, due to the increase in significant seismic activity I have for the first time stocked up on non-perishable goods and water. I have read that it would take about a week for national guard troops to arrive in California from other states to render aid. Or who knows, maybe the Prez will just do a fly-by and wave out the window also.

You forgot one item

mcfez - 3-17-2011 at 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
It started with the Y2K hysteria and has been nonstop 24/7 since then. Bird flu! Swine flu! Global Warming! Solar flares! By the time Dec. 21, 2012 rolls around people will be going bonkers. :biggrin:

Fox News = Oxymarooon

Bajahowodd - 3-17-2011 at 04:33 PM

I suppose anyone with a triple digit IQ could consider that the entire Pacific Rim is somehow interconnected.

And, in fact, based upon historical data, a "great quake" is probably overdue in the fault system that runs through CA.

However, that "Kremlin report"....

We have a large body of very experienced geo-scientists working at CalTech. Some are directly employed by CalTech, and others are in the USGS.

Given the apparent silence from CalTech, I'm not going to lose any sleep tonight.

bajalou - 3-17-2011 at 04:48 PM

The New Madrid fault caused the highest magnitude quakes recorded in the continental US just about 170 years ago. Maybe it's time again but it's a long way from the west coast.

1bobo - 3-17-2011 at 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Jim/Liisa

“The planets very much affect the earth, indirectly, by having an effect on the Sun. Some planets are very large. If the Sun was a basketball the gas giants Jupiter and Saturn would be the size of grapefruits, and the Earth would be, on that scale, the size of a peppercorn...

In other words, it is always best to be prepared should disaster strike, wherever the warning comes from.
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Someone needs to review their physics. Unless you're an astrologer, the inverse square law still rules. Sure, there's always the straw that broke the camel's back, but gravity is a pretty weak force. Too bad GS has no astrologers on staff.

BajaBlanca - 3-17-2011 at 05:13 PM

I am more afraid of the tsunami than the earthquake .... how far inland to go ????? anyone got any clue ????

burnrope - 3-17-2011 at 07:08 PM

One advantage of using a conventional water versus a tankless is that you'll have 30-50 gallons of potable water on hand if there's a mega quake. I think the rule of thumb is 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food and you'll survive. I know that I'd be better off with a couple of weeks of not eating.

Woooosh - 3-17-2011 at 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by bajalou
The New Madrid fault caused the highest magnitude quakes recorded in the continental US just about 170 years ago. Maybe it's time again but it's a long way from the west coast.

Recently the cluster of quakes there was being blamed on an oil industry technique to squeeze every bit of oil/gas from the ground called hydraulic fracturing or "fracking"- of which Haliburton in the King. Only New York has actually banned the practice though so far.

http://globalrumblings.blogspot.com/2011/02/arkansas-earthqu...

Skipjack Joe - 3-17-2011 at 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
I am more afraid of the tsunami than the earthquake .... how far inland to go ????? anyone got any clue ????

That depends on the height of the wave. There were people in Half Moon Bay that did the opposite - they went to the wharf to see the water rise and fall. We drove inland to about 200 ft above sea level and waited. However, Skyline Blvd was chock full of vehicles that morning from residents.

The tsunami wave in Japan went inland quite a bit in some places. As I remember it was over a mile.

Pompano - 3-17-2011 at 09:12 PM

6 miles in places...

CortezBlue - 3-18-2011 at 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by cbuzzetti
Anyone could predict that an earthquake will happen in an earthquake zone.

But can you do that and keep everyone afraid. That is what Fox does best. :lol:

yes like global warming, ooooooooooooops, that was Al Gore and CURRENT TV

David K - 3-18-2011 at 08:07 AM

Elevation is the key...

As we have seen in Thailand and Japan, a 'bad' tsunami isn't a 100 foot tall monster wave... it is the whole ocean surging upon the land... even an 8 ft. wave made a mess of Santa Cruz.

I think the Japan wave was 20-30 feet... but the whole ocean was behind it and surged way inland in the LOW areas between hills. After the initial wave hit... the ocean kept moving in, upon the land... and there was more than one.

LaloinBaja - 3-18-2011 at 08:43 AM

Today the Woodie comes out of the garage and the long boards get strapped on...Question is......What temp range wax to use?????

toneart - 3-18-2011 at 12:44 PM

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I'm looking forward to it. Got a date with a beautiful woman and we are going to go out in style. Use your imagination if you dare!

Martyman - 3-18-2011 at 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by burnrope
One advantage of using a conventional water versus a tankless is that you'll have 30-50 gallons of potable water on hand if there's a mega quake. I think the rule of thumb is 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food and you'll survive. I know that I'd be better off with a couple of weeks of not eating.

And three months of herb

mtgoat666 - 3-18-2011 at 01:29 PM

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assuming it is well-attached, and bottom is not compromised, and house does not fall down around it, and assuming you are home when the big kahuna hits.
what if big one strikes when you are 200 miles from home and in center of yucca alley?
those YV people are inhumane, probably be drinking your blood within a day.

better keep a couple granola bars and couple gals of water in your car, and if near yucca valley some holy water to splash on the locals when they get too close.

Martyman - 3-18-2011 at 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by CortezBlue
[yes like global warming, ooooooooooooops, that was Al Gore and CURRENT TV

Have you checked the polar regions lately? Just because it's warm at your house doesn't mean its not happening. :no:

Cypress - 3-18-2011 at 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by toneart

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Got a date with a beautiful woman and we are going to go out in style. Use your imagination if you dare!

Bajahowodd - 3-18-2011 at 03:28 PM

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OK. Maybe I'll agree, except that was small potatoes. If you really want to look to an overriding reason that panic is so easily induced today, look no farther than what the Bushies have done post 9/11.

Cypress - 3-18-2011 at 03:48 PM

Bajahowodd, Blaming the "Bushies"? That's an original concept. :biggrin:

kaybaj - 3-18-2011 at 03:54 PM

:yawn:

Hey

Bajahowodd - 3-18-2011 at 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
Bajahowodd, Blaming the "Bushies"? That's an original concept. :biggrin:

Wait a sec. It's really not so much about Bush as it is about the system and the need for power. After 9/11, that administration was hellbent to grab as much power as they could. Innumerable personal liberties and freedoms were taken from us. He got re-elected because he could use the panic, much of which was created by color coded threat alerts and the TSA, and I could go on and on. I view it as much as anything the result of the system that has seen sitting presidents make being reelected to a second term the number one priority.

Geez. Dontcha think it's the same motivation that has seen Obama become the third term of Bush?

Maybe a political system such as Mexico, where there is a single six year term, is actually better.

sanquintinsince73 - 3-18-2011 at 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd

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Originally posted by Cypress
Bajahowodd, Blaming the "Bushies"? That's an original concept. :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGlBHyVeYU

Cypress - 3-18-2011 at 04:16 PM

Maybe? But maybe not! Comparing Obama to Bush and rating future presidential candidates to either one of them is lowering the presidential bar to extreme levels.

Bajahowodd - 3-18-2011 at 04:24 PM

And yet, if Reagan was alive today, he'd probably fit better in the Democratic party. I get tired of so many Republicans invoking Reagan, when, in fact, if you look at the record, so much of what Reagan did, and so much of what he espoused is way left of what the current bunch calling themselves Republicans espouse. You can't have it both ways.

Yesterday's right is today's center.

And just to get this back on topic, ask yourself just why it is that there is so much unjustified panic in the US about nuclear fallout from the awful disaster in Japan. Geez. Shepard Smith on Fox, just the other day berated our public for acting so foolishly.

Why are we the way we are? Maybe we've been manipulated by those in power.
We didn't get here by accident.

Bajahowodd - 3-18-2011 at 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
Maybe? But maybe not! Comparing Obama to Bush and rating future presidential candidates to either one of them is lowering the presidential bar to extreme levels.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you.

Gawd! We let corporate America and inside the beltway power structure totally take over.

Semper Paratus

MrBillM - 3-18-2011 at 04:29 PM

ANYONE who is WORRIED over a coming Quake has got too much time on their hands or too little activity between their ears.

I liked the Geologist gal the other night who, when discussing the various "Early-Warning" systems being worked on, said that they were a waste of time and money because the warning would never be enough. "What are you going to do with a few minutes or even an hour of warning ?" as she put it, predicting that more people would die as a result of being warned than would have otherwise.

On the other hand, ANYBODY who doesn't maintain an adequate supply of food, water and other essentials is a FOOL.

We've always (for the last twenty years or so, anyway) maintained what we need along with an adequate supply of Arms and Ammunition (en El Norte) to make sure we don't have to share with anyone we don't wish to.

wessongroup - 3-18-2011 at 04:56 PM

Ditto's..

Bajahowodd - 3-18-2011 at 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by MrBillM
ANYONE who is WORRIED over a coming Quake has got too much time on their hands or too little activity between their ears.

I liked the Geologist gal the other night who, when discussing the various "Early-Warning" systems being worked on, said that they were a waste of time and money because the warning would never be enough. "What are you going to do with a few minutes or even an hour of warning ?" as she put it, predicting that more people would die as a result of being warned than would have otherwise.

On the other hand, ANYBODY who doesn't maintain an adequate supply of food, water and other essentials is a FOOL.

We've always (for the last twenty years or so, anyway) maintained what we need along with an adequate supply of Arms and Ammunition (en El Norte) to make sure we don't have to share with anyone we don't wish to.

I will totally concur with the beginning of your post.

But, without making any value judgments, the part about guns and ammo.... Just thinking...

I do not recall any reportage from Japan that dealt with looting or any form of violence. Given the magnitude of the tragedy, with all the dead, the missing, and the homeless; not to mention the shortages of food and other supplies, would an event such as this, if it happened here, result in the same level of civility? Just seems to me, for better or for worse, there is a cultural distinction here.

And before anyone would think about wimps, y'all have to remember that these were the same folks that bombed Pearl Harbor and were famed for their Kamikaze pilots.

Just think that sociologists ought to look into this.

BajaGringo - 3-18-2011 at 05:58 PM

Our early warning system is when I hear MrBill's guns a blazing...

BajaBlanca - 3-18-2011 at 05:59 PM

I heard from a Japanese ex-student of mine who lives in Japan- she is safe and she is donating to her compatriots.

talk about a noble thing to do.

monoloco - 3-19-2011 at 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666

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Better throw in some silver bullets and a sharp stake. :lol:

[Edited on 3-20-2011 by monoloco]

Bringing a Sharp Stake

MrBillM - 3-20-2011 at 09:36 AM

To a Gun Fight ?

Sure, if you'd like.

As I've said before, nobody need worry unless they're ON my property uninvited. At that point (certainly during a disaster), the assumption would be that they are there with bad intent. Obviously, until the point where some evidence of bad intent were displayed, they'd have the opportunity to retreat.

Probably.

As far as the Nips being Nice to each other, THEIRS is a different society and ANYBODY who would theorize that the same rules would apply in the U.S.S.A. is, at best, a FOOL. We've seen enough evidence to the contrary. New Orleans being the latest incident.

Everybody is Free (more or less) to make their own decisions regarding Disaster Preparedness. I've made mine and I'm comfortable with that. What ANYBODY else thinks of it is immaterial.

Unless they come visiting.