I have a youngster coming with us to San Felipe at the end of this month. She is a vegetarian. Will eat eggs and milk...just no meat / fish.
I could use a list of restaurants in San Felipe that may have a vegetarian selection for her.
Appreciate the help.jeffg - 3-17-2011 at 06:23 PM
We've had some veggers come for a visit. They do pretty good in mexican restaurants. Bean burritos, cheese enchiladas, chile rellenos, quesadillas,
etc.grace59 - 3-17-2011 at 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by jeffg
We've had some veggers come for a visit. They do pretty good in mexican restaurants. Bean burritos, cheese enchiladas, chile rellenos, quesadillas,
etc.
I was thinking along the same lines, but then I'm wondering if the local tortillas and/or refried beans are made with lard? I know that
traditionally refried beans are made with pork fat. Maybe one of the chinese restaurants would work for some stir fry??mcfez - 3-17-2011 at 06:45 PM
Oh good stuff here. Thanks. The beans...good point!
Is there any other Chinese places in SF other than the one near the malecone? We went there last time and it wasnt good. The owners seemed to be
vacant and the kids were running shop.grace59 - 3-17-2011 at 07:05 PM
The Chinese restaurant that use to be at the Pemex by the Crocodile out by El Dorado has moved into town, but I don't know where. Another option for a
meal out would be the Langosta Roja...they have an eggplant sandwich, eggplant parm. and pastas with a marinara or pesto sause. Also breads, soups and
salad choices without meat.grace59 - 3-17-2011 at 07:07 PM
OH yes, plus there is also a cheese or veggie pizza from the Sand Rail Pizza. AND you can eat it around the camp fire!
Lard (manteca, i,e. pork fat) is Expensive
Gypsy Jan - 3-17-2011 at 07:24 PM
The tortillas we find in the market these days are prepared with vegetable oi (you can read the ingredients list on the cover).
Many restaurants have switched to vegetable oil for frying, because lard is more expensive.
Personally, I would rather eat old style home-style tortilla than than one that is prepared from engineered trans-fats promoted on a
pseudo-health-fad agenda.
[Edited on 3-18-2011 by Gypsy Jan]mcfez - 3-17-2011 at 07:33 PM
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OH yes, plus there is also a cheese or veggie pizza from the Sand Rail Pizza. AND you can eat it around the camp fire!
Hopefully with your folks one night :-)
Gypsy Jan ...great info. Txs so much.grace59 - 3-17-2011 at 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Personally, I would rather eat old style home-style tortilla than than one that is prepared from engineered trans-fats promoted on a
pseudo-health-fad agenda.
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YUM Two thumbs up!
Meat is Expensive
Gypsy Jan - 3-17-2011 at 08:04 PM
And What is Cheap?
Vegetables.
For example: field greens, also called quelites, cactus greens, also called nopalitos and the robust greens called swiss chard (I do not recall the
Mexican word) are prevalent in markets all over Mexico. Then there is the familiar staples of beans and rice, which, if eaten together make a
complete meal of protein.
Also, worms, grasshoppers and other insects are a great source of protein as the Mixtecs and Aztecs were fond of, but that is a subject for another
day.
[Edited on 3-18-2011 by Gypsy Jan]redhilltown - 3-17-2011 at 11:06 PM
I think a lot will depend on how draconian she is in her veggie diet...and a Chinese restaurant you are just about 100% guaranteed to eat chicken
stock at some point...and actually the same goes for Mexican restaurants even if they don't use lard. It is really really tough to travel to foreign
countries and keep all your veggie values (India excluded of course!). I think she should do the best she can and let a few things slide. I promise
her the world will continue to spin on its axis and the sun will come up in the east (and I am by no means a meat eater and despise factory farming.)durrelllrobert - 3-18-2011 at 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Also, worms, grasshoppers and other insects are a great source of protein as the Mixtecs and Aztecs were fond of, but that is a subject for another
day.
[Edited on 3-18-2011 by Gypsy Jan]
can't be eaten in whole or even if ony parts of them are used to make cochineal which is used as red dye in soft drinks, etc:
Vegans must watch out for foods which contain animal substances. Below is a list of things vegans should look out for:
•albumen/albumin: egg white. Use/s: food binder
•alpha hydroxy acids (AHAs): naturally occurring chemicals derived from fruit or milk. Use/s: cosmetics
•ambergris: morbid concretion obtained from the intestine of the sperm whale. Use/s: perfumes
•amniotic fluid: fluid surrounding the foetus within the placenta. Use/s: cosmetics
•anchovy: small fish of the herring family. Often an ingredient of Worcester sauce and pizza toppings. Use/s: flavor enhancer
•angora: fiber obtained from rabbits or goats. Use/s: clothing
•aspic: jelly derived from meat and fish. Use/s: glazing agent
•astrakhan: skin of still born or very young lambs from a breed originating in Astrakhan, Russia. Use/s: clothing
•bristle: stiff animal hair, usually from pigs. Use/s: brushes
•casein: Ammonium Caseinate. Calcium Caseinate. Potassium Caseinate. Sodium Caseinate. The principle protein of cow's milk. Use/s: texturizer for ice
cream, frozen custard, ice milk, fruit sherbets, and in special diet preparations.
•cashmere: fine wool from the cashmere goat and wild goat of Tibet. Use/s: clothing
•castoreum: obtained from the sex gland of the . Use/s: fixative in perfumes
•catgut: dried and twisted intestines of the sheep or horse. Use/s: stringed musical instruments, surgical stitching
•caviar: roe of the sturgeon and other fish. Use/s: a relish
•chitin: organic base of the hard parts of insects and crustacea eg shrimps, crabs. Use/s: conditioners and skin care products, thickener and
moisturiser in shampoos
•chamois: soft leather from the skin of the chamois antelope, sheep, goats, deer, etc. Use/s: cleaning cloth
•cochineal (E120): dye-stuff consisting of the dried bodies of scale insects. Use/s: red food and drink colouring
•cod liver oil: oil extracted from the liver of cod and related fish. Use/s: food supplement
•D3 (cholecalciferol): vitamin derived from lanolin or fish oil. Use/s: vitamin and food supplements
•down: underplummage of fowls (especially duck and goose). Use/s: filling quilts, pillows, sleeping bags, padded clothing
•eider down: small, soft feathers from the breast of the eider duck. Use/s: filling quilts
•elastin: protein uniting muscle fibres in meat. Use/s: moisturiser in cosmetics
•gelatin: jelly obtained by boiling animal tissues (skin, tendons, ligaments etc) or bones. Use/s: confectionery, biscuits, capsules, jellies,
photographic film, match heads
•glycerin/glycerol (E422): clear, colourless liquid which may be derived from animal fats, synthesised from propylene or from fermentation of sugars.
Use/s: solvent for flavours, texture improver, humectant
•hide: animal skin (raw or tanned). Use/s: clothing and footwear, clothing accessories, upholstery
•isinglass: very pure form of gelatin obtained from the air bladders of some freshwater fishes, especially the sturgeon. Use/s: clarifying alcoholic
drinks, jellies
•keratin: protein found in hair, horns, hoofs and feathers. Use/s: shampoos and conditioners, fertilizer
•L'cysteine hydrochloride (E920): manufactured from animal hair and chicken feathers, or synthetically from coal tar. Use/s: shampoo, improving agent
for white flour
•lactose: milk sugar. Use/s: tablet filler, sweetener, 'carrier' for flavouring agents &emdash; especially in crisps
•lanolin: fat extracted from sheep's wool. Use/s: cleaning products, an emollient and emulsifer used in cosmetics & emdash; especially lipsticks
•lard: fat surrounding the stomach and kidneys of the pig, sheep and cattle. Use/s: culinary
•leather: tanned hide (mostly from cattle but also sheep, pigs, goats etc). Use/s: clothing and footwear, clothing accessories, upholstery
•lecithin (E322): fatty substance found in nerve tissues, egg yolk, blood and other tissues. Use/s: emulsifier in baked goods and confectionery
•lutein(E161(b)): substance of deep yellow colour found in egg yolk. Use/s: food colouring
•mohair: cloth or yarn made from the hair of the angora goat. Use/s: clothing
•musk: substance secreted in a gland or sac by the male musk deer. Use/s: perfume
•oleoic oil: liquid obtained from pressed tallow. Use/s: margarines
•oleostearin: solid obtained from pressed tallow. Use/s: soap and candle making
•oestrogen: female sex hormone from cow ovaries or pregnant mares' urine. Use/s: cosmetics, body building supplements, hormone creams
•pearl ('Mother of', or 'cultured'): concretion of layers of pain-dulling nacre formed around a foreign particle within the shell of various bivalve
molluscs, principally the oyster. Use/s: jewelry and decorative
•pepsin: enzyme found in gastric juices. Use/s: cheese making
•placenta: organ by which the foetus is attached to the umbilical cord. Use/s: cosmetics
•progesterone: sex hormone. Use/s: hormone creams
•propolis: bee glue. Used by bees to stop up crevices and fix combs to the hive. Use/s: toiletries and cosmetics
•rennet: extract of calf stomach. Contains the enzyme renin which clots milk. Use/s: cheese making, junkets
•roe eggs: obtained from the abdomen of slaughtered female fish. Use/s: a relish
•sable: fur from the sable marten, a small carnivorous mammal. Use/s: clothing, artists' brushes
•shellac (E904): insect secretion. Use/s: hair spray, lip sealer, polishes, glazing agent
•silk: cloth made from the fibre produced by the larvae ('silk worm') of certain bombycine moths, the harvesting of which entails the destruction of
the insect. Use/s: clothing, cosmetics
•sodium 5'-inosinate: occurs naturally in muscle. Prepared from fish waste. Use/s: flavour enhancer
•sperm oil: oil found in the head of various species of whales. Use/s: candle making
•spermaceti wax: fatty substance found mainly in the head of the sperm whale, other whales and dolphins. Use/s: medicines, candle making, cosmetics
•sponge: aquatic animal or colony of animals of a 'low order', characterised by a tough elastic skeleton of interlaced fibres. Use/s. bathing aid
•squalene/squalane: found in the liver of the shark (and rats). Use/s: toiletries and cosmetics
•stearate: salt of stearic acid Use/s: body building supplements
•stearic acid (E570): organic acid prepared from stearin
•stearin(e): general name for the three glycerids (monostearin, distearin, tristearin). Formed by the combination of stearic acid and glycerin;
chiefly applied to tristearin, which is the main constituent of tallow or suet. Use/s: medicines, skin softener in toiletries and cosmetics
•suede: kid-, pig- or calf-skin, tanned. Use/s: clothing and footwear
•suet: solid fat prepared from the kidneys of cattle and sheep. Use/s: cooking
•tallow: hard animal fat, especially that obtained from the parts about the kidneys of ruminating animals. Use/s: soap and candle making
•testosterone: male hormone. Use/s: body building supplements
•urea: waste nitrogen formed in the liver and excreted by the kidneys. Use/s: toiletries and cosmetics
•vellum: fine parchment prepared from the skins of calves, lambs or kids. Use/s: writing material
•vitamin A (retinol): derived from fish liver oil or egg yolk. Use/s: cosmetics, food supplement
•volaise: ostrich meat
•whey: residue from milk after the removal of the casein and most of the fat. By-product of cheese making. Use/s: margarines, biscuits, crisps,
cleaning products
•wool: hair forming the fleecy coat of the domesticated sheep (and similar animals). Use/s: clothingmcfez - 3-18-2011 at 10:45 AM
Thanks durrelllrobert ....interesting list! Thank you Sir.
She is not a holy vegan.....just abstains from meats. Personally...I can't understand how anyone can turn down a 12oz T-Bone CDB - 3-18-2011 at 01:07 PM
Deno, check u2u.Jim/Liisa - 3-18-2011 at 03:35 PM
There is a good Chinese restaurant next store to the Title Company book store.BillP - 3-18-2011 at 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by mcfez
Personally...I can't understand how anyone can turn down a 12oz T-Bone
I would turn down a 12oz T-Bone.........for a 24 ouncer!!!!! mcfez - 3-18-2011 at 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by mcfez
Personally...I can't understand how anyone can turn down a 12oz T-Bone
I would turn down a 12oz T-Bone.........for a 24 ouncer!!!!!
You got me!!!!!!grace59 - 3-18-2011 at 09:02 PM
Oh, Yes, oh, yes. When in San Felipe I love the Rib Eye at El Nido. YUUUUMMMMM!
Good for You, McFez
Gypsy Jan - 3-18-2011 at 09:26 PM
I really like that you are working to make the visit go well.
Cheers, GJbajabass - 3-19-2011 at 07:33 AM
Just bring a bunch of fruits, veggies, and soy products, while you eat like a king!!!mcfez - 3-19-2011 at 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
I really like that you are working to make the visit go well.
Cheers, GJ
Gypsy Jan
I just want to take a minute to tell you...that...I really enjoy your input'os on this BN. You always have positive (and nice) stuff to say.
Well...they are kids. It's a magical time in their lives to live. I have always tried to make a kid's life interesting. Now...going to Baja for them
(except my son..he has traveled a lot)....will be an eye opener. It will be an adventure. Might be a bit scary too :-) They will hopefully see whales
with Beercan's help...... they will see card board boxed homes......experience simple foods from a simple sidewalk vendor....will help for a half day
at the San Felipe food bank......drive my big truck for miles out in the desert (I will be with them!).....so much more. Yeah...wish I was a kid too
night now!
Again...thank you and to others...that always give out kind words.GeoRock - 3-21-2011 at 04:21 PM
I've been a vegetarian for 32 years, am married to a vegetarian of 30 years, have 3 grown adult children raised vegetarian (who are all still
vegetarian), and have one vegetarian 4 year old grandchild.
I travel any chance I get, and frequently go into Mexico.
So, with great authority I can tell you not to worry about what to feed her.
She will likely be able to smell refried beans and know instantly if they have meat or lard in them. I often order cheese enchiladas and just ask for
a salad on the side of the plate instead of the refried beans and rice. The rice usually has chicken broth in it.
It is extremely rare for me to not be able to order something, even in steak houses. You just have to ask what vegetables they have, and be creative.
Grilled vegetables substitute for burgers in a 'hamburger.' An omelette can be eaten for dinner.
She will be just fine ordering, as she is likely used to it by now. Even in the U.S., there are lots of areas that are stuck in meat eating
mentalities and a vegetarian has to be creative.
It really is easier then you can imagine, and so I would not worry about her diet. Hope this helps you out.
Oh, by the way...... I have a hard time understanding why anyone WOULD willingly eat a chunk of cow!
Yes, GeoRock!
Gypsy Jan - 3-21-2011 at 04:26 PM
Just what you said,windgrrl - 3-22-2011 at 07:22 AM
What GeoRock says...we are lacto-ovo vegetarians (20 years) and lived well many trips (latest to Baja 3.5 months) with access to wonderful fresh veg,
fresh eggs, cottage cheese, and invitations out from friends who enjoyed the challenge of trying a new style of cooking!
In a hotel room, it's amazing what you can do with access to a a grocery store, few travel cooking implements supplies, a coffee pot and a small
fridge!
Most cultures aren't meat intensive and have excellent fleshless but protein-rich options.
[Edited on 3-22-2011 by windgrrl]drarroyo - 3-22-2011 at 02:26 PM
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Oh, by the way...... I have a hard time understanding why anyone WOULD willingly eat a chunk of cow!
unenlightenment. It's really that simple. Just be as grateful as I am, and will always be.Jim/Liisa - 3-23-2011 at 06:17 PM
I was just diagnosed a diabetic. I don't Know what I'm gona be able to eat in Mexico.mcfez - 3-23-2011 at 07:33 PM
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I was just diagnosed a diabetic. I don't Know what I'm gona be able to eat in Mexico.
I really dont think you'll have a issue with a new diet to suit your needs down there. Chin up....it'll work out!
A few years ago, I took my vegetarian son with me on a autotour of Mexico and experienced no problems feeding him to his satisfaction. As several have
said already, you shouldn't have any problems as Mexican kitchens readily adapt to those needs. Good luck and good on you.Jim/Liisa - 3-24-2011 at 08:57 AM
Thanks for the thought mcfez...desertcpl - 3-24-2011 at 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jim/Liisa
Thanks for the thought mcfez...
