BajaNomad - new malecon in Rosarito

new malecon in Rosarito

krafty - 3-22-2011 at 06:56 PM

I keep hearing alot of noise about this-does anyone have any info? Always thought the high tides were too high for a venture like this-a vision by the new mayor, btw.....

BajaSerg - 3-23-2011 at 03:35 PM

Whats a Malecon? a male that cons you? :?:

krafty - 3-23-2011 at 04:38 PM

boardwalk

gnukid - 3-24-2011 at 06:44 AM

A malecon is a stone waterfront, an esplanade, like in Havana, La Paz, Guayaquil, and Santo Domingo.

A boardwalk is a muelle (in spanish).

Woooosh - 3-24-2011 at 09:54 AM

Apparently Mexico City has wanted a boardwalk for Rosarito for some time. I don't know why Torres didn't press forward with it while he was in office. When Mayor Robles went to Mexico City last month, he met with Calderon. They both agreed to move forward on the boardwalk project as a boost to tourism and to create local construction jobs. The local news carried the story about moving forward on the project. The funding is apparently in place and they hope to begin this year.

We do have some inside info on it. Last month my family met with FRAO, ZOFEMAT and Mayor Robles for help in clearing illegal occupants from our beach concession. We watched the YouTube video together and when we showed him the photos of the exact concession area he had a big smile and said we would be very happy. Our goal has always been to preserve the beach for the people of Rosarito. They told us the section of beach in our concession (Villas del Mar) would be the key to the new boardwalk project- with a widened children's play areas and workout areas. It was clear in that meeting our concession would be used for the boardwalk project (with or without our permission we presume). The day after our meeting they came out to the concession and photographed every bit of it. We had already hired an expert to help us get possession of our concession through the courts in Mexico City and the Mayor's office was familiar with and supported this expert- so the whole meeting went very well for both us and Rosarito. Since the boardwalk and our family have the same goal to preserve the beach for the people, we immediately offered our concession to them to streamline their process and we encouraged them to start the project on our concession. They said they would begin "cleaning up" the beach area in the concession to show people a project was coming. We figure once the project is complete, we would no longer need to pay 10,000 pesos per year for the concession- so everyone wins.

The plans have not been made public as far as we know. I'm sure there will be a big PR campaign and announcement by Rosarito when they are ready to display them. The Boardwalk runs the length of Paseo del Mar in the central residential district of Rosarito. The plans do not show any buildings on the ocean side of the boardwalk or Paseo del Mar. Apparently there is bedrock 10 meters down and the new seawall will be anchored to it to protect the boardwalk, the widened recreation areas and Paseo del Mar. Last year an engineer surveyed for the project and estimated the depth needed for the new seawall.

That's all I have to share. I do hope they move forward on it so the beach and residential neighborhoods threatened by beach erosion will be protected. But projects like this may never happen and it's too soon to get excited about it.

One interesting note: Our YouTube video is up to 2470 views. There is an "insight" feature on YouTube and so you can track viewer locations and date. In the past few weeks there has been 30 or so views per day in Mexico, which is a big blip in the chart. People are watching it for a reason somewhere in Mexico. So once again- thanks to all the Nomads who gave us feedback on the draft versions of the video so it would be good enough to have this impact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRflD9USro

English draft version- not the same, but close...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXiedDI3JI

krafty - 3-24-2011 at 04:09 PM

Thanks Woooosh-think this is great news, if it ever happens.....

Bajahowodd - 3-24-2011 at 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by BajaSerg
Whats a Malecon? a male that cons you? :?:

I think you are confusing that with a maricon. :lol:

As for gnu's explanation about muelle, perhaps it's a translation thing, in that while technically a muelle is constructed of wood, it is most often consdiered to be a wharf or dock. Boardwalk, as in Atlantic City, for instance, is not something that juts into the sea, but rather a raised wooden promenade along the oceanfront.

Eugenio - 3-24-2011 at 04:41 PM

Yeah - I thought the city of Rosarito already tried a campaign to attract more malecones from the US back a couple or 3 years ago. If that failed why would they think that installing a big permanent one would be any better.

Woooosh - 3-24-2011 at 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by krafty
Thanks Woooosh-think this is great news, if it ever happens.....

You never know down here Krafty. Stranger things have happened. Eventually they need to protect the central part of Rosarito from erosion. The waves already come over the existing seawall and hundreds of homes in that area are at risk. So it would serve an important purpose besides tourism. It would also stop illegal building on that section of beach. If the Feds are on the hook financially to protect the homes there from beach erosion (all federal zone) this project does that and more. Why build just a new seawall when you can make it so much more?

Calderon believes in his effort to make Mexico the #7 destination in world tourism by 2016 and a Malecon to boost tourism is part of that pipe dream I guess. The Malecon in Playas de Tijuana is always busy and is even in a few music videos already. If Calderon is voted out next year, I doubt it will happen unless the check has been cashed and the money is in the bank.

I'll come back to this thread if there is any further news on it or if I see any signs of construction.

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"En el rubro del turismo, Javier Robles Aguirre expresó como proyecto prioritario la construcción de un andador peatonal como malecón en la playa de Rosarito será indispensable para atraer mayor turismo a la ciudad y que quedó en la agenda de pendientes del Gobierno Federal."

"In the area of tourism, Javier Aguirre Robles expressed, as a priority- the project to build a pedestrian walkway and boardwalk on the beach in Rosarito as essential to attract more tourists to the city which was pending on the agenda of the Federal Government."

[Edited on 3-27-2011 by Woooosh]

Woooosh - 5-5-2011 at 10:03 AM

A little more round-about talk about the Rosarito Malecon project by Mayor Robles. Apparently he has the support of the Economic Development Secretary Government of Baja California, Mr. Alejandro Munger Lagarda. "Robles described the priority that requires the municipality in support by the state agency, raised the need for project managers to develop tourism on the beach walker (malecon)."

http://www.rosaritoenlanoticia.info/2011/05/sedeco-y-gobiern...

Cyanide41 - 5-5-2011 at 09:36 PM

Muelle is a pier.

http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/muelle

according to that same site, Malecon is a jetty. But I know that Mexicans call a boardwalk a Malecon.

krafty - 5-5-2011 at 09:49 PM

Wow Wooosh-have an inklin' of a hope-wish I could help!

Woooosh - 5-5-2011 at 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by krafty
Wow Wooosh-have an inklin' of a hope-wish I could help!

It'll be hard to get the project done. One huge parcel of beach they need now has a "for sale" sign on it. Either it won't ever get built because of land problems or some Rosarito "investor" will buy the beach and then complain he got ripped off. It does seem like this "new" political party builds things and is serious about tourism projects. Rosarito Beach had half the Easter week guests of Playas Tijuana and which one of those two is supposed to be the tourist destination? Robles wants to re-do the whole main street through Rosarito and even coordinate storefront colors to make it more appealing.

AmoPescar - 5-5-2011 at 11:38 PM

Wow Woooosh...

That's some story and unreal videos!!!

Too bad that the corruption is so bad and the public and disabled suffer because of it!

Miguelamo

The Gull - 5-6-2011 at 06:39 AM

Malecon at Playas de Rosarito would be a bad idea. The passengers (floaters) coming off the cruise ships would roll up on it.

Also, it would be underwater by the turn of the century according to the tin foil hatted ecofreaks.

How would Wiiish deal with either of these situations over the next 90 years of posting on Nomads board?

Woooosh - 5-6-2011 at 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by The Gull
Malecon at Playas de Rosarito would be a bad idea. The passengers (floaters) coming off the cruise ships would roll up on it.

Also, it would be underwater by the turn of the century according to the tin foil hatted ecofreaks.

How would Wiiish deal with either of these situations over the next 90 years of posting on Nomads board?

When you eventually get to see the boardwalk plans you will get a good laugh for sure Gull. It is amazing how far the political party in power will go out of it's way to isolate the other political party leaders from benefiting while winding around illegal beach developments they support. Spite runs deep down here.

What's all this tinfoil hat and posting for 90 years stuff? The world ends on Dec 21, 2012. right?

[Edited on 5-6-2011 by Woooosh]

The Gull - 5-7-2011 at 07:43 AM

Woooosh, I stand corrected. I forgot the world ends this year.

Woooosh - 5-7-2011 at 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by The Gull
Woooosh, I stand corrected. I forgot the world ends this year.

DENNIS - 5-7-2011 at 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by The Gull
Woooosh, I stand corrected. I forgot the world ends this year.

Gull....do you know what year this is? It's 2011. The world will end next year:

http://www.endoftheworld2012.net/

The Gull - 5-7-2011 at 11:48 AM

My Aztec calendar was running one year fast. Actually, I have lost track of time.

Losing track of time, is a blessing and some day you all will enjoy the same thing.

scouter - 5-7-2011 at 12:08 PM

Gull I agree---- and can't wait to be in the same boat....

Woooosh - 5-7-2011 at 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by scouter
Gull I agree---- and can't wait to be in the same boat....

Yup... a year is just a number. Same with age until you catch a glimpse of yourself in a mirror and don't instantly recognize yourself... It's good to be old until someone reminds you that you are.

Woooosh - 7-26-2011 at 09:23 AM

It looks like the Malecon is on the 2012 plan. It is described as a "north end of beach" peatonal, which supports the malecon plans for the north beach area the Mayor has told us about.

http://www.rosaritoenlanoticia.info/2011/07/en-playas-de-ros...

"En el aspecto turístico, se tiene contemplado concretar los Proyectos arquitectónicos de “Playa Norte” y el Andador Peatonal todo esto en la zona turística del primer cuadro de la ciudad. "

google translate:

"On the tour, there are plans to realize the architectural projects of "North Beach" and the pedestrian walkway in the tourist area."

[Edited on 7-26-2011 by Woooosh]

tjBill - 7-26-2011 at 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
It looks like the Malecon is on the 2012 plan...
[Edited on 7-26-2011 by Woooosh]

Its about time. Both Playas de Tijuana and Ensenada have a Malecon. Neithier of those two cities rely on the beach the way Rosarito does.

Woooosh - 10-18-2011 at 10:56 AM

Well- now they are saying they don't want to build it. They have 10 million pesos from the government to use for the planned Malecon- but to get those funds they need to start by the end of 2011. Robles wants to build a jetty near the Rosarito Beach Hotel instaed. They would lose the government money if they don't do the project as planned though. They need to preserve all the beach- just not half.

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/18102...

North Beach project could be lost in Rosarito

The appeal for 10 million pesos that had been earmarked to start work on Playa Norte Project in Rosarito, could be lost as the year just ending and the State Government has not started the work of this work, said Mayor Javier Robles. He felt that this project is very ambitious and although I could bring benefits for the city, in his opinion is more important to invest in beach areas that are popular as is the colony Barbachano. He explained a resource that was allocated 10 million pesos for this year at the North Beach project, which is precisely the opposite side of the area Barbachano, but although the project is done, the resources have been arranged by the State Government , which is responsible for executing the work. Robles Aguirre mentioned that this corresponds to North Beach is to build a walking tour with shopping areas, but that he is promoting a new project for the construction of a jetty in the areas of most visited beach. The municipal noted that this is not the only ambitious project that comes out of the economic reality that we live and therefore it is harder to lose resources to implement them, referring to the Grand Park City, where plans to invest 50 million pesos for the construction of a lake, an amount that could have been spent on other attractions more accessible to put into practice. He argued that through the Metropolitan Fund, was achieved 14.5 million dollars to be invested in the great park, but only reach for earthworks in the area that is larger than 42 hectares and the time constraints, and so that the resource is not lost, exercise, but not for a module that allows a glimpse of progress in this long project.

[Edited on 10-18-2011 by Woooosh]