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Adultery Soon to be Legal in Mexico

Bajatripper - 3-26-2011 at 01:42 PM

Yesterday, the Mexican Sentate voted to repeal part of the Criminal Code that made adultery illegal in Mexico, by a vote of 69 in favor and one abstentia. The change was already approved in the Lower House of Deputies and now only awaits the President's signature to become law.

Pablo Gomez, of the Democratic Revolutionary Party, said the old law was seldom enforced but "was part of a legal construct that historically allowed men to hold women as their property.

(Source: Huffingtonpost)

woody with a view - 3-26-2011 at 01:46 PM

save it. another chunk of the human fabric that makes us all "human" is lost...

Skipjack Joe - 3-26-2011 at 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Bajatripper

Pablo Gomez, of the Democratic Revolutionary Party, said the old law was seldom enforced but "was part of a legal construct that historically allowed men to hold women as their property.

(Source: Huffingtonpost)


What femmeN-zi came up with that?

Looks like the Old Testament is just --- too old.

fishabductor - 3-26-2011 at 01:52 PM

Sounds like this is a self serving change of law, they should look into all the supporters of this bill. I would bet $$ that they are all adulter's. best get them while it is still an illegal activity in mexico

Bajatripper - 3-26-2011 at 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
Sounds like this is a self serving change of law, they should look into all the supporters of this bill. I would bet $$ that they are all adulter's. best get them while it is still an illegal activity in mexico


From my take on it, the law was only used to keep women in place. Men have forever been able to have as many "casas chicas" as their money allowed them to (my father-in-law handled three until recently). This change will allow women to enjoy the same immunity from punishment (not to be mistaken for freedom from an angry husband applying the old macho double-standard) for such trespasses as men have been allowed since forever.

And, while I don't know what the law is in many states in the US, I know that in Washington State adultry is not a crime for purposes of divorce.

fishabductor - 3-26-2011 at 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by Bajatripper
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Originally posted by fishabductor
Sounds like this is a self serving change of law, they should look into all the supporters of this bill. I would bet $$ that they are all adulter's. best get them while it is still an illegal activity in mexico


From my take on it, the law was only used to keep women in place. Men have forever been able to have as many "casas chicas" as their money allowed them to (my father-in-law handled three until recently). This change will allow women to enjoy the same immunity from punishment (not to be mistaken for freedom from an angry husband applying the old macho double-standard) for such trespasses as men have been allowed since forever.

And, while I don't know what the law is in many states in the US, I know that in Washington State adultry is not a crime for purposes of divorce.


That is one of the reasons some men don't teach their wives to drive, it keeps them at home and makes it harder for them to leave if they are unhappy. It is sad, and I am happy to see that most of today's women are learning to drive. Many of the older women here, have never driven, however not all are for the above reasons.

Washington is my home state and has pretty lax laws on divorce. It's usually a 50/50 split from what I hear regardless of the reason for the divorce.

I have no firsthand divorce experience and plan on keeping it that way.

DENNIS - 3-26-2011 at 02:38 PM

It isn't illegal in the states, is it? Just immoral.

woody with a view - 3-26-2011 at 02:41 PM

is there a difference, Dennis? both have roots in the same.........

DENNIS - 3-26-2011 at 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
is there a difference, Dennis? both have roots in the same.........


One would be resolved in a court of law..........the other in a court of decency.
Big difference.

stevelaubly - 3-26-2011 at 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
is there a difference, Dennis? both have roots in the same.........





Big difference, Woody....Immoral is wrong. Illegal just means they can take your money and/or your stuff, and maybe put you in jail.

lizard lips - 3-26-2011 at 03:27 PM

I'm glad the courts in Mexico are focusing on such a important issue as this. They really don't have anything else more important to address at the present time I guess. Oh well, I'm off to spend the weekend with my girlfriend.

fishabductor - 3-26-2011 at 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by soulpatch
On the books or not there is a law in my house that I know if I violated I could easily wear much tighter pants after the sentence was meted out.
:o


Mrs. bobbit and the 5 million dollar man come to mind.

DENNIS - 3-26-2011 at 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by lizard lips
Oh well, I'm off to spend the weekend with my girlfriend.


That, for sure, will be your wife. I've seen her. :biggrin:

This Is Really What It's About

Bajahowodd - 3-26-2011 at 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
It isn't illegal in the states, is it? Just immoral.


By and large, it is not illegal in the US. I cannot speak categorically for All states.

But, by and large, historically, especially in the recent past, there has been a concerted effort to conflate behavior that might not be condoned by some, with a political agenda. Fundamentally, (and I see the connection), the religious right in the US has grown increasingly more powerful politically.

Sad fact is that the monied power elite have been more than happy to pander to the religious minority, in fact creating a platform that has enabled the wealthy to suck wealth from the middle class. It's a red herring that works for them. That's why there is this weird affiliation between corporations and the religiously driven that somehow conflates such issues as gay rights and a woman's right to choose, with cutting taxes on the wealthy.

Bottom line is that it is, or should not be within the purview of government to punish people for so-called crimes that are so-called only because some religious belief is involved.

Church and state are rightly separated. Too bad, the religious loonies keep wanting to destroy that wall.

Adultery still unlawful in Mexico.

RonnieRockCod - 3-26-2011 at 06:26 PM

It is my understanding that adultery is still unlawful. The crime has been reduced to a misdemeanor. RRC.

Interesting That There is No Response From the Good Women

Gypsy Jan - 3-26-2011 at 07:01 PM

On this thread.

Men in power try to make laws to regulate what they fear and what they do not understand.

DENNIS - 3-26-2011 at 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Men in power try to make laws to regulate what they fear and what they do not understand.


Women understand adultery?? Have no fear of it??

BajaBruno - 3-26-2011 at 07:24 PM

I'm glad Bajahowodd said it before I did.

On a further note, California abolished its adultery law many years ago, although it is still a court-martial offense in the military and a potential life sentence in that oh-so-progressive state of Michigan.

BornFisher - 3-26-2011 at 08:10 PM

So fornication with someone who isn`t your spouse is now legal in Mexico. I`s that what you`re saying? Well as Dylan would say "The Times They Are A Changing". Hard to imagine, but life will go on.

DENNIS - 3-26-2011 at 08:17 PM

"The other woman" is, and always has been, an institution in Mexico. Part of the family, so to speak.
So...what is all this crap about, anyway?

fishabductor - 3-26-2011 at 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
"The other woman" is, and always has been, an institution in Mexico. Part of the family, so to speak.
So...what is all this crap about, anyway?


Dennis..I have to say that you are the best. I love your sense of humor.:lol:

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
So...what is all this crap about, anyway?


Dennis..I have to say that you are the best. I love your sense of humor.:lol:


Actually, it was a lame attempt at being serious. My point should have been that adultery, "the other woman", is such an integral part of the Mexican culture that we of a foreign culture will never fully understand the implications of anything that tries to legislate a new morality.
Legal or otherwise, the practice won't stop. It's supposed to be a secret in spite of it's flaunted practice. A cultural charade of sorts.
La Malinche is here to stay.

BajaDove - 3-27-2011 at 07:53 AM

Men always trying to take the fun out of everything
when will the governments get out of the bedroom

Skipjack Joe - 3-27-2011 at 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

"The other woman" is, and always has been, an institution in Mexico.


It doesn't add up. If there's "another woman" there must be a corresponding "the other man". These women must come from somewhere.

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
It doesn't add up. If there's "another woman" there must be a corresponding "the other man". These women must come from somewhere.


Not really. Female adultery is not allowed. Machismo won't tolerate that. She is more often an unattached co-worker or night club aquaintance....something like that.
We arn't talking about professionals here. Just women who are content with being kept without the formallity of marriage.
It is definitely woven into the fabric of the culture with motels that cater to the discreet couple in need of a siesta.
It's pretty much everywhere and married women almost expect their spouse to be unfaithful....and there's a good chance that they will be eventually. These patterns of behavior are more prevalent for the "well set" factions of society who have more exposure to social situations with like minded co-conspirators. It's everywhere.



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fishabductor - 3-27-2011 at 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by fishabductor
So...what is all this crap about, anyway?


Dennis..I have to say that you are the best. I love your sense of humor.:lol:


Actually, it was a lame attempt at being serious. My point should have been that adultery, "the other woman", is such an integral part of the Mexican culture that we of a foreign culture will never fully understand the implications of anything that tries to legislate a new morality.
Legal or otherwise, the practice won't stop. It's supposed to be a secret in spite of it's flaunted practice. A cultural charade of sorts.
La Malinche is here to stay.


I still love your sense of humor.

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by fishabductor
I still love your sense of humor.


Thanks. It keeps me sane....or, is it insane??

Skipjack Joe - 3-27-2011 at 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Female adultery is not allowed. Machismo won't tolerate that.



Machismo won't tolerate it if machismo knows it. These things are done discretely. When a man commits adultery he pounds his chest about it, a women does it discretely.

There's no survey to support any of this. But the numbers just still don't add up.

fishabductor - 3-27-2011 at 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by fishabductor
I still love your sense of humor.


Thanks. It keeps me sane....or, is it insane??


you and me both, buddy.

Uh-uh...Not even on Mars.

Dave - 3-27-2011 at 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
married women almost expect their spouse to be unfaithful


Dennis provides proof of an alternate universe. :rolleyes:

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Machismo won't tolerate it if machismo knows it. These things are done discretely. When a man commits adultery he pounds his chest about it, a women does it discretely.

There's no survey to support any of this. But the numbers just still don't add up.


That's why most women in Mexico are kept pregnant and in the kitchen. There are still "crimes of passion" here and that's a reality for a cheating wife. A husband will not be embarrased by a cheating wife without proving to his world that he's still boss.
It ain't like the states, at all.

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by Dave
Dennis provides proof of an alternate universe. :rolleyes:


An alternate culture...yes.
It is the hoar-Mother, Malinche, who has earned a status of cheating trollop for all Mexican women, regardless of their behavior. They are born with the stigma and will be treated accordingly as the quiet side of culture demands.
Consequently, the woman, the wife, being fully aware of the dictates of the culture on the man, expects him to play his role by the script which was written 500 years ago.

Dave....ask a Mexican. I have zero credibility here.