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DONT BOTHER WITH THREATS

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JaraHurd - 3-26-2011 at 10:29 PM

Damn..i thought i got angry...

mtgoat666 - 3-26-2011 at 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aimee76
AS an person who has worked on behalf of the indigenous person in the maneadero area for over 10 years I must say I am SICK of the thousands , yes, thousands of visitors being brought to this area to "see and help" the "poor indigenous indian children:.

I invite questions, and comments, please!

so where do your work and what do you do?

and which do you think are the good organizations to support?

jenny.navarrette - 3-26-2011 at 11:20 PM

Just when you think Mexico could not possibly be debased any more...now people are charging admission to watch the indios being fed?

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aimee76
I am sick of all of you................................. :fire:

All that before anyone had the opportunity to say, "Welcome to BajaNomad, Aimee."

Maybe we'll see you at services at "Our Lady of Sharkey's" this morning.

You have a nice day.

Cypress - 3-27-2011 at 07:05 AM

Amen :saint:

Missionary Fight!

Dave - 3-27-2011 at 08:24 AM

Just when you think you've seen everything. :rolleyes:

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Dave
Just when you think you've seen everything. :rolleyes:

Yeah....turning a position into a war. Just doesn't seem respectful.

wilderone - 3-27-2011 at 08:39 AM

I think this topic has a lot of merit. Norteamericanos want to help those in need. Best if we know where efforts and money is being spent for the most good. Thank you for bringing this information to our attention, aimee, albeit tinged with some emotion!!

monoloco - 3-27-2011 at 08:41 AM

Apparently there's fierce competition for the souls of the indigenous.

CDB - 3-27-2011 at 09:26 AM

This thread is a good reminder of why at the Volunteers Without Limits(formerly the San Felipe food bank) we stick to dispensing food to the poor and therapy for the handicapped children.

Dave - 3-27-2011 at 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by aimee76
My leaders KNOW I drink margaritas at JR BURGER'sand at other locales and that quite often purchase Jose Cuervo

You are making me sooo hot.

:rolleyes:

surfer jim - 3-27-2011 at 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by aimee76
BTW- don't bother to threaten me with telling my leadership what I am doing, because unlike you who threaten, I am transparent. My keaders KNOW I drink margaritas at JR BURGER'sand at other locales and that quite often purchase Jose Cuervo and guess what??? They do not care. Save your hypocritical selves the trouble. I am sick of all of you................................. :fire:

You just joined YESTERDAY and sick already?.....give it a few years and report back :lol:

The NAMES ....we want the NAMES of those who make you sick :saint:

backninedan - 3-27-2011 at 10:39 AM

We have heard from one side. Anyone care to speak in favor of the missionary position???????

Ken Bondy - 3-27-2011 at 10:43 AM

In the immortal words of the very mortal Christopher Hitchens, "Religion poisons everything".

bill erhardt - 3-27-2011 at 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by backninedan
We have heard from one side. Anyone care to speak in favor of the missionary position???????

I would never speak out against the missionary position, but I think it's best to keep an open mind.......

sanquintinsince73 - 3-27-2011 at 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by backninedan
We have heard from one side. Anyone care to speak in favor of the missionary position???????

I agree with the missionary position but only when my tore-up back isn't acting up.

sanquintinsince73 - 3-27-2011 at 10:58 AM

Quote:

Hijoleeeee'!!!!!! Who pi$$ed in your corn flakes this morning??

toneart - 3-27-2011 at 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by backninedan
We have heard from one side. Anyone care to speak in favor of the missionary position???????

You dog, you! :lol:

I am at a loss for words. :rolleyes:

goldhuntress - 3-27-2011 at 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ken Bondy
In the immortal words of the very mortal Christopher Hitchens, "Religion poisons everything".

Thank you!!

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
You are making me sooo hot.

:rolleyes:

Hey Dave....What is Dymitri's first name?

[a little hijack won't hurt this thread, will it?]

Bob H - 3-27-2011 at 11:47 AM

This thread is totally ridiculous but hilarious. A newbie blowing up! I don't think this newbie is worthy of all the attention, but here I am too, responding. Go figure.
And, I must say, I wonder what or who Aimee's leadership is. :spingrin:

Cypress - 3-27-2011 at 12:13 PM

Missionaries nearly always go to neat "vacation" type areas to save souls. Baja? Hawaii? Why don't they go to Iraq? Iran? Syria? Or a whole slew of places inhabited by blood thirsty Muslim-types whose souls really need saving. :?:

Marc - 3-27-2011 at 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by backninedan
We have heard from one side. Anyone care to speak in favor of the missionary position???????

I am totally in favor of the missionary possition :lol:

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bob H
And, I must say, I wonder what or who Aimee's leadership is. :spingrin:

I think she mentioned José Cuervo. :biggrin:

Bob H - 3-27-2011 at 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by Bob H
And, I must say, I wonder what or who Aimee's leadership is. :spingrin:

I think she mentioned José Cuervo. :biggrin:

That would be my choice!

motoged - 3-27-2011 at 12:42 PM

WOW !!??? :wow:

The righteous get self-righteous ... :lol:

Ya gotta love it... :barf:

I say do away with ALL the missionaries... :light:

sanquintinsince73 - 3-27-2011 at 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cypress
Missionaries nearly always go to neat "vacation" type areas to save souls. Baja? Hawaii? Why don't they go to Iraq? Iran? Syria? Or a whole slew of places inhabited by blood thirsty Muslim-types whose souls really need saving. :?:

Then they get arrested and accused of working for the C.I.A. and "Slick Willie" has to go rescue them.

Cypress - 3-27-2011 at 01:16 PM

That's my point! They go to safe and comfortable resort/ vacation areas on the tab of a bunch of poor souls that they've convinced to pick up the tab for their vacation. Saving souls pays very well.

sanquintinsince73 - 3-27-2011 at 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cypress
That's my point! They go to safe and comfortable resort/ vacation areas on the tab of a bunch of poor souls that they've convinced to pick up the tab for their vacation. Saving souls pays very well.

Yeah, saving muslims is to dangerous. They prefer saving souls from 9 to 5 and then hitting the night clubs.

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by motoged
I say do away with ALL the missionaries... :light:

Here ya go:
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http://daha.best.vwh.net/boiled/history.html

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bob H
This thread is totally ridiculous but hilarious.

It doesn't take much to entertain a bunch of Nomads these days, does it.
Thanks, Aimee....you're a hoot. Do you have anything you would like to add before this thread expires?
We're listening.

Wait...

Dave - 3-27-2011 at 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by motoged
I say do away with ALL the missionaries... :light:

Let's keep the ones who like to party.

Bob H - 3-27-2011 at 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by Bob H
This thread is totally ridiculous but hilarious.

It doesn't take much to entertain a bunch of Nomads these days, does it.
Thanks, Aimee....you're a hoot. Do you have anything you would like to add before this thread expires?
We're listening.

Good one Dennis... this thread WILL expire!

A trick question...

Dave - 3-27-2011 at 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS

Hey Dave....What is Dymitri's first name?

deserves a trick answer:

Yes.

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
Let's keep the ones who like to party.

Only if they're young and Catholic. They party hardiest.

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS

Hey Dave....What is Dymitri's first name?

deserves a trick answer:

Yes.

I thought Dymitri was his last name. Wrong?

Bajahowodd - 3-27-2011 at 02:02 PM

Hmmm. With that name, and with what was posted, no one smells a troll?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Semple_McPherson

Bob H - 3-27-2011 at 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
Let's keep the ones who like to party.

Only if they're young and Catholic. They party hardiest.

You crack me up! :yes:

But, I dated a Premitive Baptist preacher's daughter once. She did more than wash my feet... WOW! She was something else!

[Edited on 3-27-2011 by Bob H]

Using Freedom of Speech on the Internet

Gypsy Jan - 3-27-2011 at 03:06 PM

Is kind of like using the right to swim in the ocean.

If you don't know the waters, it might take you down.

Sallysouth - 3-27-2011 at 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
You are making me sooo hot.

:rolleyes:

Hey Dave....What is Dymitri's first name?

[a little hijack won't hurt this thread, will it?]

Nah! It's Joe. Jr. is Brad, the bad boy.(oh crp! I fell for it! Dang it Dennis!!)

[Edited on 3-28-2011 by Sallysouth]

DENNIS - 3-27-2011 at 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Sallysouth
Nah! It's Joe. Jr. is Brad, the bad boy.(oh crp! I fell for it! Dang it Dennis!!)

Thanks, Sal. It was a serious question. I was having a discussion with someone yesterday about La Fonda and Dymitri when I mentioned that Dymitri was his last name, but then I couldn't remember his first name.

Thanks again.

.

[Edited on 3-28-2011 by DENNIS]

Dave - 3-27-2011 at 08:19 PM

He'll answer to Joe. Most of his friends even call him Joe.

But his first name is actually Dymitri.

Not sure if that's the correct spelling, though.

CaboRon - 3-28-2011 at 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goldhuntress

Quote:

Originally posted by Ken Bondy
In the immortal words of the very mortal Christopher Hitchens, "Religion poisons everything".

Thank you!!

I agree

Pompano - 3-28-2011 at 05:51 AM

me too..who's got the rope? Let's start with the Muslims...and then the Christians..and then the real terrorists..the Buddists!

We can leave the Polynesian Frog worshippers alone.....for now.

Marc - 3-28-2011 at 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pompano
me too..who's got the rope? Let's start with the Muslims...and then the Christians..and then the real terrorists..the Buddists!

We can leave the Polynesian Frog worshippers alone.....for now.

I agree; leave the Society Islands out of it.

DENNIS - 3-28-2011 at 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pompano

the real terrorists..the Buddists!

Here's a face that will strike terror into your heart:

http://www.topnews.in/files/dalai_lama.jpg

desertcpl - 3-28-2011 at 09:34 AM

this is just to funny,, I think we were just bored, this thread came along at the right time

:lol:

[Edited on 3-28-2011 by desertcpl]

fishabductor - 3-28-2011 at 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by desertcpl
this is just to funny,, I think we were just bored, this thread came along at the right time

:lol:

[Edited on 3-28-2011 by desertcpl]

I'll 2nd that! I am sure BN passes the down time for many here.

rdrrm8e - 3-28-2011 at 10:17 AM

Science flies you to the Moon...

Religion flies you into buildings...

Martyman - 3-28-2011 at 11:46 AM

What is the opposite of the missionaries position?

Puckdrop - 3-28-2011 at 12:13 PM

HOLLY crap Aimee76, and if the 76 reflects your year of birth it would explain many questions I have of you. That would only put you at 35 and would also explain that you have not yet mastered the art of tolerance.
Too bad you missed Woodstock :lol:

bufeo - 3-28-2011 at 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by Puckdrop
HOLLY crap Aimee76, and if the 76 reflects your year of birth it would explain many questions I have of you. That would only put you at 35 and would also explain that you have not yet mastered the art of tolerance.
Too bad you missed Woodstock :lol:

"Her" Profile gives July 1966 as birthdate. Even so, it's probably not likely she was at Woodstock as a three-year-old....but...??

Allen R

P.S. Yeah, I'm bored with doing taxes and it snowed again this a.m. Messy outside. BN provides some light entertainment.

DENNIS - 3-28-2011 at 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martyman
What is the opposite of the missionaries position?

The Altar Boy position. :barf:

.

[Edited on 3-28-2011 by DENNIS]

bajabound2005 - 3-28-2011 at 07:06 PM

anyone notice she hasn't been back???

CDB - 3-28-2011 at 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajabound2005
anyone notice she hasn't been back???

Fine by me.

fishabductor - 3-28-2011 at 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by Martyman
What is the opposite of the missionaries position?

The Altar Boy position. :barf:

[Edited on 3-28-2011 by DENNIS]

Oh...You are SO bad...

...but funny as hell

I think we are both going to hell.

bajamigo - 3-28-2011 at 07:34 PM

Didn't somebody say this thread was going to die?

aimee76 - 8-2-2011 at 11:46 PM

Sorry to have left ya thinking I would not be back, have been gone South for several months...................

However still feel the same way and am glad my post has elicited such thought provoking responses...........................

As fro me , I continue in my worl\k here, by God's Grace alone.
I know I freak a lot of folks out because of my soMEwhat anti-religious views............sorry but not really.
I am even more sick now than I was of the false religious people who are selling trips to see the poor Mixtecos and Triques................I watched their buses arrived (15) of them in just one day today........................these groups charge about $100 US per day to come "minister" to the "poor mexicans".
Meanwhile the "poor Mexicans" miss out on their education (we enroll about 30 of them in school each year, not many I know) and the nutritious daily meals (we serve around 60 every day at 12:30) while they attend stupid parties and religious meetings...........most of which violate their very culture................................

I am sick of it and yeah, they peeed in my cornflakes if you say so...........just because we spend all year advocating for these indigenous people before government entities, providing them with medical care(corneal transplants, cosmetic surgeries etc) and then these Christian Travel Agents such as the Williams, and the Love Mexico bring in these groups for financial profit and screw up our whole program.............so they can make the bucks...........\\
Here we are working to better these folks lives, struggling ourselves yet hAPPY to do it. (sorry not here for a vacation, but wouldn't mind one for sure!) And yet I would not be and AM a human being who is tired of the religious political BS that goes on.............................

Any questions, pls feel free to ask I will elucidate.............

And yeah, I drink the occasional shot of Cuervo.........................I call em "cousin Joe" and I , unlike others "Christians" in the area am not hypocrytical about it. I don't hide it a Jr Burger or when I buy it at Calimax! Hypocrosy is when you tell others Not TO PARTAKE WHILE YOU ARE SNEAKING IT IN A BACK ROOM SOMEWHERE..................(I think if God tells YOU not to drink you'd best not, but He has told me no such thing and i continue to do His Work)
OUR LEADERSHIP IS WELL AWARE OF OUR NON RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, ANDS IF i SOUND peeED, WELL YES i AM,AS i SEE SO MUCH FINANCIAL SUPPORT FUNNELED FROM THE Usa TO GROUPS WHO REALLY ARE HYPOCRITICAL, WHO REALLY DAMAGE THE CULTURE OF THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HERE WIthOUT DOING THEM ANY PERCEIVABLE GOOD..............
SORRY YOU TOOK MY INABILITY TO ANSWER YOU QUICKLY AS AVOIDANCE, BUT I WAS DOWN SOUTH (ARGENTINA, IN THE SWAMPS, DRINKING CUERVO AND GIVING MEDICAL CARE TO THOSE IN THE PANTANO.............PLEASE ACCEPT MY HEARTFELt APOLOGY.. for not answering quickly enough..............
God bless ya'll!

aimee76 - 8-2-2011 at 11:59 PM

this is an awesome thread..................your posts have given me HOPE(believe it or not) keep it up Nomads............and be aware of who and what you get involved in.
Mostly, in your prayers , whatever they may be, hold up the indigenpous, the Trique, the Mixteco, the Zapoteco, as they are so discrin=minated against and hurting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,don't take it from me just GOOGLE it....
Thanks for all replies for and against like i say I was encouraged.
Aims

Howard - 8-3-2011 at 06:32 AM

What do you mean by "Mexico hater?"

CaboRon - 8-3-2011 at 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goldhuntress

Quote:

Originally posted by Ken Bondy
In the immortal words of the very mortal Christopher Hitchens, "Religion poisons everything".

Thank you!!

zoesterone - 8-3-2011 at 07:29 AM

I think the original poster has a very valid point. Too many do-gooders who like to make themselves look benevolant and generous. The people who live here year around and give of their time and effort are the ones that should be thanked. Just my not so humble opinion.

mcfez - 8-3-2011 at 07:46 AM

I think that if you come onto the BN with a temper...you'll just get laughed at. Perhaps some real information...as history, who YOU are...experience.....

This extra info would certainly help your cause here. Regardless.....of the issues down there you are having....I thank you for being down there helping out the needy. 5 Stars for you.

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Ken Bondy - 8-3-2011 at 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rdrrm8e
Science flies you to the Moon...

Religion flies you into buildings...

Wonderful quote!! Deserves a bump

J.P. - 8-3-2011 at 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by backninedan
We have heard from one side. Anyone care to speak in favor of the missionary position???????

I have lived in the Punta Banda area for 8 years and have witnessed the rich christans come down on a long weekend or holiday in their convoy's of 12 passanger vans and throw up a 12x12 shack or two and then leave . The people that really do the good dont arvertise or seek others approval one facility that I have been in that takes care of severly handicaped children reeks of urine so bad you can smell it before you get out of the car. The socalled director lives very lavishly next door.

Paladin - 8-3-2011 at 09:15 AM

Me Paladin

Owner/operator/CEO/King/inventor/Founder :lol:

of the famous company called

Paladin Rodent Control

(currently headquartered in downtown sunny Fresno CA)

Missionaries :mad:

Off with their heads!!! :bounce:

Revoke their visas :biggrin:

DENNIS - 8-3-2011 at 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Howard
What do you mean by "Mexico hater?"

Maybe she'll answer when she sobers up.

El Comadante Loco - 8-3-2011 at 09:22 AM

I agree that there is an over abundance of christian missionaries not only in Baja but all over the world. The good they do is debatable. I fully support helping those in need but believe in doing it without stings attached that includes, language, values, politics, and of course RELIGION.. I for one support Dr's Without Borders.

Here is another scam I am tired of. I was filling up with diesel yesterday just north of Ensenada when a well tanned, healthy, scruffy Gringo with a TKT in his pocket approached and asked if I spoke English. I said yes. His response was " hey I am living down here and do not get my check until Saturday could you help me out with a few dollars" I was flabbergasted. If a cop would have been near by I would have complained. Has anyone else encountered Gringos panhandling in Baja?

Explain it to me

Dave - 8-3-2011 at 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aimee76
I am sick of it and yeah, they peeed in my cornflakes if you say so...........just because we spend all year advocating for these indigenous people before government entities, providing them with medical care(corneal transplants, cosmetic surgeries etc) and then these Christian Travel Agents such as the Williams, and the Love Mexico bring in these groups for financial profit and screw up our whole program.

How do they..."screw up your whole program?"

DENNIS - 8-3-2011 at 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
Has anyone else encountered Gringos panhandling in Baja?

Sure. In some cases they have a legitimate problem like having their car stolen or something like that. I leave it to intuition to qualify them.
Others get hooked up with these drug rehab groups and are on the streets with a full line of crap. In some cases, their existance is being subsidized by US welfare agencies.
I don't give them the time of day.

BajaGringo - 8-3-2011 at 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
Others get hooked up with these drug rehab groups and are on the streets with a full line of crap. In some cases, their existance is being subsidized by US welfare agencies.
I don't give them the time of day.

We've got a couple of those down here in SQ. I told them both they would do better standing with a handwritten sign at a freeway offramp NOB...

Ken Bondy - 8-3-2011 at 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
I agree that there is an over abundance of christian missionaries not only in Baja but all over the world. The good they do is debatable. I fully support helping those in need but believe in doing it without strings attached that includes, language, values, politics, and of course RELIGION.. I for one support Dr's Without Borders.

Good people will do good things with or without religion.....bad people will do bad things with or without religion.....but for good people to do bad things, that takes religion. [anon]

J.P. - 8-3-2011 at 09:59 AM

One of my pet peaves is school children standing on the tope begging for whatever cause. What about teaching them a work ethic. like a car wash or what ever to support their cause. :?:

DENNIS - 8-3-2011 at 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
How do they..."screw up your whole program?"

Go back through her posting history...all five of them...and see where she comes from.

Uh.......

Dave - 8-3-2011 at 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
Go back through her posting history...all five of them...and see where she comes from.

No thanks.

That's what I have you for.

I expect a full report by morning.

BajaNomad - 8-3-2011 at 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Comadante Loco
Has anyone else encountered Gringos panhandling in Baja?

Did you read about "Peso" the "Crazy gringo in Cataviña" here?:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=53915

luv2fish - 8-3-2011 at 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by aimee76
I am sick of all of you................................. :fire:

All that before anyone had the opportunity to say, "Welcome to BajaNomad, Aimee."

Maybe we'll see you at services at "Our Lady of Sharkey's" this morning.

You have a nice day.

I about peeed my pants :lol:

BajaBlanca - 8-3-2011 at 05:05 PM

how did I miss this before ??????????? this is soooooooooooo hysterically funny.

sad that money is being wasted when I am sure people's intentions are the best ...

and I am blown away that aimee is sick of all of us and this before she has even "met" us on the forum, YIKES !!!!!!!!!!!!!

redmesa - 8-3-2011 at 06:51 PM

I sense a care giver burn-out!

toneart - 8-3-2011 at 08:15 PM

Aimee tends to disappear for long periods of time:

The Lady Vanishes Part III: Aimee Semple McPherson
Before there was Jim Bakker, before there was Jerry Fartwell, before there was Jimmy Swaggart, there was Sister Aimee.

Born to an Ontario farming family in 1890, Aimee Kennedy was born again at age 17, and married a Pentacostal preacher named Robert Semple a short time later. After Semple died on a missionary trip to China, leaving Aimee with a year-old daughter, she relocated to the U.S.
Like Tony Alamo, she slipped into her late spouse's shoes by becoming a traveling preacher, and married a wholesale grocer named McPherson.

Aimee was a red-haired dynamo who enthralled everyone, even Christians who thought women should obey St. Paul: sit down and shut up. No one could shut up Aimee McPherson. She pitched her revival tent throughout Canada and New England for two years, with two children in tow, and she drew crowds everywhere she preached.
In 1921, three years after the family settled in Los Angeles, the McPhersons divorced. Incredibly, this didn't put much of a dent in Aimee's popular image. By 1923 she and her mother, Minnie, had built a religious empire around Aimee's International Church of the Foursquare Gospel - the PTL of its day. Its Angelus Temple in Echo Park was the nation's first true megachurch - an airy, modern masterpiece with seating for 5300 parishioners. As if that audience wasn't big enough, "Sister Aimee" (as her flock called her) also became the first American woman to be granted an FCC license for her own radio station. She preached every day of the week and up to six times on Sundays, advocating a humble and squeaky-clean lifestyle without adding too much fire and brimstone. In the deeply corrupt L.A. of the Roaring Twenties, such homilies were warmly welcomed. As I wrote in my post about the real stories behind the film The Changeling, the LAPD at this time was rife with corruption. A "gun squad" practiced its own strange brand of urban Western justice, mowing down suspected criminals and inconvenient persons alike under the force's shoot to kill policy; bodies were routinely found in alleys, warehouses, and other dark corners of the city. The LAPD also had its fingers in an array of criminal enterprises: bootlegging, prostitution, extortion, bribery. In another L.A. church, a social crusader and beloved Presbyterian minister named Gustav Briegleb would rail against this lawlessness for years.

A return to wholesomeness wasn't the only alluring thing about the Foursquare Church. Each worship service was like a Vegas floor show with faith healings; a full orchestra, the Foursquare choir, costume changes, elaborate sets.

It all worked. By 1926, at the age of 35, Sister Aimee was a millionaire with an estimated 40,000 followers.

Aimee on the Beach

In the early evening hours of May 18, 1926, Aimee was one of a dozen or so swimmers at L.A.'s Ocean Park Beach. A strong swimmer, she cut purposefully through the waves in her knee-length bathing suit and diving cap while her personal secretary waited on the beach, looking over some notes.
But when the secretary looked up, Sister Aimee was gone. She had apparently drowned before she could call out for help.

For days, thousands of mourners gathered on the sand to mourn Sister Aimee. Though no trace of her had washed ashore, she was certainly dead.
But then strange rumours began to surface: Sister Aimee had been sighted at various California hotels in the company of her radio station's married engineer, Kenneth Ormiston. Not everyone believed the rumours, of course, but Mrs. Ormiston seemed certain that her husband had run off with Sister Aimee. He had vanished around the same time the preacher supposedly drowned.

Minnie Kennedy, on the other hand, insisted her daughter must have been abducted for ransom and offered a $25,000 reward for her safe return. A Los Angeles lawyer soon announced he was in contact with the kidnappers, and they had accurately described a scar on one of Sister Aimee's fingers. They were demanding $500,000, or else they would "sell her to old Felipe of Mexico City. We are sick and tired and of her infernal preaching." Aside from the reference to Mexico, the ransom demand contained no clues to Aimee's location. Her followers could only sit tight and pray.
No further demands or instructions were conveyed by the captors. A month after Aimee disappeared, Minnie appeared to give up hope of recovering her daughter. She held a memorial service for her at Angelus Temple.

Three days after the service, a dazed Sister Aimee staggered out of the desert near Agua Prieta, Mexico, across the border from Douglas, Arizona. She told local authorities she had been abducted from Ocean Park Beach, lured to a car by a couple who claimed to have a sick child in need of her healing powers. She was driven into the desert and imprisoned in a shack by two men and a woman they called Mexicali Rose. Miraculously, she somehow escaped her captors and ran across miles of scorching sand without being pursued, without getting her shoes overly dirty, and without becoming dehydrated or sunburned. Aside from a few blisters and some exhaustion, she was in fine condition.

Sister Aimee tried in vain to lead authorities back to the shack in middle of the desert. It was never found.
But it didn't take long for the investigators to find out where Aimee had really been for the previous month: In Carmel, having a faux honeymoon with Kenneth Ormiston. Minnie and the attorney had helped Aimee prop up the absurd abduction story. And Aimee stuck to it, while Ormiston insisted he had been out of town with another woman.
In July a grand jury convened to hear evidence on the case. Sister Aimee was represented by Sammy Hahn, the prominent attorney who would take on Christine Collins' lawsuit against the LAPD three years later. In the end, there simply wasn't enough solid evidence to show that Sister Aimee may have fabricated her kidnapping. No charges were filed.

You'd think this would be the last straw for Sister Aimee's flock, wouldn't you? They could overlook the divorce and the circus-style pageantry, but a faked drowning followed by a faked kidnapping? Pretending you're preaching to evil kidnappers while you're actually canoodling with your married employee? That's just too much. I mean, this stuff makes Orel Roberts look sane. To make matters worse, Aimee married a third time and died from a barbituate overdose in 1944.

But the Foursquare Church has never wavered from Sister Aimee's account of her abduction. Sister Aimee's followers staunchly defended her against all accusations of hoaxery. They even accused the investigators of trying to smear her reputation (on behalf of Satan, naturally).
Her son, Rolf, declared years later that his mother was targeted for kidnapping because she knew too much about the L.A. underworld of organized crime and political corruption, thanks to her work with drug addicts and prostitutes.

Church officials contend that Sister Aimee's fatal overdose was accidental.

Mexicali Rose and her godless thugs have never been found.

Sources:
1. Landsburg, Alan. In Search of Missing Persons. Bantam, 1978.
2. Wikipedia entry on Aimee Semple McPherson. Retrieved Aug. 25/09.
3. Wikipedia entry on the Foursquare Church. Retrieved Aug. 25/09.
Posted by S.M. Elliott at 3:56 AM
Labels: crime, disappearances, hoax, hoaxes, religion

aimee76 - 8-3-2011 at 11:03 PM

Well, hey, here I am again. My original post seems to have stirred up quite a storm. I want to apologize if I offended anyone, really. But there are sure some awesome answers, even the one-liners on here! I have enjoyed your input.......................

Someone asked what I meant by the damage that these short term/weekend warrior missionaries do down here..................

Most of them are probably good folks who have ZERO idea of the damage they do because they visit thru "Agents" who really have no other Mission down here besides bringing big convoys of white vans and collecting their bucks to put them up in a "safe" place and give them tours of where poor people live.
I suggest that if you want to really help you work with someone who has a track record and good references that can be verified and that that individual or group ACTUALLY be in CHARGE of the mission itself.

One example of harm is this: Earlier this summer a group of Christian Hairdressers (!?)showed up on a "tour" . They dismebarked their vans at an indian labor camp and proceeded to cut all of the little indian girls hair. Their moms were not capable of giving permission either because they spoke no english or spanish (duh, and the group had no tranlators)) or they were working in the fields.

For most indian women/girls, long braided hair is their crowning glory...........but the "Christians" did not take this into account.

When the fathers got home from work they were ENRAGED! One man beat his wife so badly for allowing her daughters hair to be cut that she miscarried at 6 months along. Now I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT ADVOCATE BEATING A WOMAN FOR ANYTHING, BUT these weekend warriors came down here with NO REGARD FOR THE CULTURE they were affecting. They just thought that as Americans they knew best...................

We are the people who ended up taking the severely beaten woman to the hospital...................
We were the people who were also blamed and had the relationship we have labored for so many years to build with these folks damaged. They figure all Christians are alike and we aren't. It has taken TIME to gain the people' trust again....

I also see another Agent who is collecting money on the internet to build "bathrooms" for the indigenous. You should see the abominable shacks he builds with his visitors. I wouldn't bathe a DOG in one of them. How can the indigenous better their lives if this is what they are told is befitting??

If you are going to do something do it right!!

We feed some 60 children EVERY day. When a group comes in to "play" basketball or "bathe" the dirty little children"their words not mine" without taking into consideration that it is lunchtime and the children miss the ONLY MEAL THEWeY WILL likely recieve all day, then these folks are interfering with our program........................

I know one couple who lives in Ensenada that picks up 2 -3 indigenous kids whenever the mood strikes them , with no parental permission and takes them home bathes them and takes them to Walmart and Mcdonalds! If some stranger took one of your kids and gave them a bath, would you not freak out??? Again it is an attitude of trying to push american ideas of what is right or wrong off on a totally different culture.

We are blessed to be guests here in Mexico and must respect the culture or stay home.

I DO get upset at the hypocrisy within the Church and with the convoys of white church vans that stream thru my neighborhood and do crappy work to make themselves feel better.

I don't think it is okay to give a poor child a ragged pair of shoes that you would not put on your own grandchild and then demand that the event be turned into a photo op! Do they ever think of the fact that having their picture snapped by strangers might embarass or shame them?

Give in secret and you will be rewarded publicly, I promise.

I am not perfect obviously, but I am what I am and I am working on it.

Short term missionary visits have become a cottage industry in Baja. It is close to the Border and a safe place to go for rich church people who want to make themselves feel better and then leave as quickly as they can....................with no regard for how their visit may have affected the local people.

I hope this has cleared up some of your "doubts" about me. I came off quite strongly, but maintain my position, just don't want to alienate anyone!

BTW-I have no connection to the Foursquare or any other Abomination.....oops I meant Denomination!

One other word, Americans are the most GENEROUS people in the world. I love them. I am proud to be one. Without good people who give of their time , and finances we could do NOTHING here or anywhere!

Love and Peace!

BTW- I agree Drs Without Borders is a great org.

wilderone - 8-4-2011 at 07:50 AM

You have some valid and enlighteninig observations. So some still need "bathrooms" ? How can this be accomplished? Septic tank, concrete, walls? Not too difficult (?)

Brian L - 8-4-2011 at 10:38 AM

This post has been enlightening and hysterically funny. I laughed out loud a couple of times yesterday, and hardly ever do that from reading posts.

Aimee has some good points, and besides her crazy weird second post, has done a good job explaining her position. I think she is right...

redmesa - 8-4-2011 at 11:26 AM

Volunteer tourism has become a big business. You pay 5000 dollars, tour poverty, pretend to help, and sleep at the local 5-star. The world continues to buy and sell people at all levels.

aimee76 - 8-4-2011 at 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
I think that if you come onto the BN with a temper...you'll just get laughed at. Perhaps some real information...as history, who YOU are...experience.....

This extra info would certainly help your cause here. Regardless.....of the issues down there you are having....I thank you for being down there helping out the needy. 5 Stars for you.

Walt Eckstein

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[Edited on 8-3-2011 by mcfez]

Your CV is quite long repeating itself time and again! Amazing without really saying anything truthful about who you are........................RETHINK YOUR CHALLENGING ME TO REVEAL MYSELF, for you may not want the truth to be known, but hey here goes.................

I take issue with your saying I would be laughed at..................for displaying my true raw emotions...................the laughter helped me and I appreciate it. I feel the Forum has welcomed me more than most average people would. I respect their laughter and i feel some LOVE too..........not to mention I can agree to disagree, that is not a problem for me.
My only regret is that I may have offended anyone, again I publicly apologize. I AM TRULUY SORRY IF i OVERSTEPPED MY BOUNDS AS A "NEWBIE" i ADMIT FREELY i AM IGNORANT OF INTERNET PROTOCOL AND APPRECIATE ANY HELP, YA'LL SEEM TO BE SUCH A GREAT GROUP!) But I have hung around the Board and I had a feeling that acceptance if not agreement is something to be found at this Board. And that is what I seek........I want to help in any way I can and also be able to express myself as I am.....................

As for you, Walt, you are one of the leaders of the groups I come against in my work EVERY DAY. Unlike you, I LIVE THIS LIFE. And i have a bone to pick with you....

IN fact, you are in possession of a catering truck that was verbally gifted to our ministry , with the specific purpose of us (OUR MINSTRY people) going into the streets of TJ and Ensenada to minister to the homeless SATURDAY NITE WITHOUT FAIL SINCE 1998...........(Kirk, who donated the truck and still has his camping gear stored in my home, NEVER MEANT for you ( a total stranger to have it.)
It was his only material possession, in fact when he donated it he was still sleeping in it regularly and took a great leap of faith by giving it. He donated it to us in faith and another huckster waylaid it, participated with you and finally thru health circumstances just forgot about it.
I recently asked Mardell Shebley what would come of that catering truck, she told me that you told her it was in such poor mechanical shape as to be USELESS. She says you said it is NO LONGER in USE.
I say , I have people who are willing to fix it and put it back into good use.....back to the purpose for which it was given , which NEVER was feeding overfed children one day a week and spending the rest of its days garaged somewhere...................if you will allow that.
Or , really if you DO want to help the indigenous and you have this mobile capacity-why do you not go to the labor camps which get no attention, where kids truly are starving?? I'll gladly show you several nearby which get zero attention. We long for the catering truck that you possess although it given to us so that we can feed these poor kids who are too far out to walk in fo rfood once a day. One catch is that these groups do not want there pictures taken and that is one reason why they get no help. So if you take me up on my offer be prepared to respect that please. We are even willing to work side by side with you to reach them. We will purchase the food,all we need is the use of the truck.....................which was again given to us to begin with!

I do not get it. Ah but then I do. It is easier to do your little show close to home so you can get the bucks from the visitors without causing themselves or you much discomfort........am I onto something?? I hav eyes, maybe become burned out and cynical, BUT NOT AGAINST THE PEOPLE I SERVE, only against those who continially exploit them.
I have known you since you first came to Baja with Tatiana..............and were run off from Gabriel House for usurping authority................
We have been here some 14 -15 years and will joyfully serve here until we are moved on, by the Lord.
As to ya'll being transferred to beautiful Veracruz........would you be using the supposedly "worthless" truck there?..................why not Culiacan Where we are considering going to where the heat index is about 120 degrees day and night but where the people are literally DYING to receive the Gospel..............we WANT TO GO THERE AND ONLY AWAIT REPLACEMENTS HERE (to take over this work, gee WHIZ! YOUR SUDDEN MOVE CONVENIENTLY COINCIDES WITH YOUR NEW MARRIAGE...............Could you be "Honeymoon Missionaries" to Veracruz??? Gee, that would be cool for you.
I do WISH YOU THE BEST. And I pray that before you leave you will hear Holy Spirit telling you to return the truck to it's intended ownership.......................I know He is speaking to you and we do not care what mechanical shape it is in, we just hope you will LISTEN to the Lord and do what is right, so that we can get on with our mission here.
Regardless, just as the Lord took Saul's Kingdom and gave it to young David, we know He is still capable of that today. I'd hate to see you go thru that though, when all you really need to do is what Holy Spirit suggests.....................

I really do have agape love for you as a human being. I was saddened when I learnedwhat your former wife had done to you and we kept you in prayer for a long time. Only to find out the Lord had already blessed you with a new wife!! PRAISE GOD, i THOUGHT.

AT THE SAME TIME , WHAT IS RIGHT IS RIGHT-I AM TELLING YOU THAT THE TRUCK THAT YA'LL SAY NO LONGER WORKS WAS OURS TO BEGIN WITH. PLEASE RESPECT THAT AND RETURN IT, IN JESUS' NAME .......................i(f that means anything to you- I do not know anymore.) I have seen so much horriffic church politicking going on in my part 3 years I never know who REAllY BELIEVES WHAT...............
MAYBE THAT IS WHY THE LORD SAID "FAITH WITHOUT WORKS ARE MEANINGLESS??"
MAYBE nowdays we must show our fruit first........................I am happy to provide you with references of our fruit in this field of white before you turn over the vehicle.

Thank you for your consideration.........................

(I first sent this as a personal correspondence to Walt and have e in several weeks gotten NO answer, therefore I am bringing it up publicly.

DENNIS - 8-4-2011 at 09:01 PM

I think we're all in over our heads here.
Why not wish Aimee all the best and leave her alone. She's on a quest that most of us don't even want to understand.

luv2fish - 8-4-2011 at 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I think we're all in over our heads here.
Why not wish Aimee all the best and leave her alone. She's on a quest that most of us don't even want to understand.

Amen, I'll light a candle at Our Lady of Sharkeys. :lol:

But really aimee thanks for your work.

[Edited on 8-5-2011 by luv2fish]

aimee76 - 8-4-2011 at 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by redmesa
Volunteer tourism has become a big business. You pay 5000 dollars, tour poverty, pretend to help, and sleep at the local 5-star. The world continues to buy and sell people at all levels.

yOU NAILED IT QUITE CONCISELY REDMESA...MUCHAS GRACIAS ANDDIOS LE BENDIGA............

NAILED IT MY MAN

aimee76 - 8-4-2011 at 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by aimee76

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yOU NAILED IT QUITE CONCISELY REDMESA...MUCHAS GRACIAS AND DIOS LE BENDIGA............

ONLY DOWN HERE THEY "LIKE TO CALL IT "TRANSFORMATIONAL TRAVEL".......OR "JUSTICE JEWELRY"........depending on what they are selling..at what moment it fluctuates regularly............JUST ANOTHER SMART QUIP DESIGNED TO JUSTIFY TAKING MONEY THEY KNOW IS MEANT FOR A BETTER CAUSE.

I am not angry , okay?? I am a happy camper, happy happy muy happy............

aimee76 - 8-4-2011 at 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by rdrrm8e
Science flies you to the Moon...

Religion flies you into buildings...

THIS IS SO FUNNY AND SO TRUE IT STOPS ON EIN HER TRACKS. ouch! BAHBAHA...............AIMS

mcfez - 8-4-2011 at 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I think we're all in over our heads here.
Why not wish Aimee all the best and leave her alone. She's on a quest that most of us don't even want to understand.

Exactly (more or less!) what I said here earlier. Give anyone credit for helping the needy.

bufeo - 8-5-2011 at 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I think we're all in over our heads here.
Why not wish Aimee all the best and leave her alone. She's on a quest that most of us don't even want to understand.

I'm not sure that's all "she's" on, but hell, I read the thread.

Allen R

redmesa - 8-5-2011 at 01:50 PM

I'm not a christian but I think aimee is trying to help even though religions have done a fair share of harm in the world. If she/he needs to vent...well, Bajanomads has known many venters over the years. So I say "You go girl"! I am sure there are many here on nomads who will be there in a new york minute if you say you need some specific help that we can provide.

shari - 8-5-2011 at 03:32 PM

"transformation Travel"!!!!! jajajajaja...kinda snappy name though....the whole idea makes for some pretty funny "travel scenarios" in my mind!

great topic

henshaw - 8-5-2011 at 03:54 PM

Tell how you realy feel about it !

aimee76 - 8-6-2011 at 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by shari
"transformation Travel"!!!!! jajajajaja...kinda snappy name though....the whole idea makes for some pretty funny "travel scenarios" in my mind!

great topic

I am glad you think it as hilarious as I do.............maybe I was misjudged. Somebody sAid i was on more than Cuervo. Well, dang, if I didn't have a darn job to do maybe...............but hey. I've already bared my soul, if I was on "something else" d\o you really think I would hold back? What do ya think I am on?? I really do not care what people think of me, I just want to help the community and do my job......
On the whole, I want to thank everybody. Ya'll are A'right in my book................and I don't doubt you would help if you could............however, at this point the only help I need is to expose the hucksters that truly make our work a heartache....i DO NOT REQUIRE ANYTHING FROM NOMADS BUT A GOOD THOUGHT AND MAYBE A PRAYER.......normally we work with joy, but we when see hapless northmericans(that includes you Canucks) being MISLEAD and OVERCHARGED when u shouldn't be charged at all,well I take issue.
I am going to continue to expose this phony transformational travel trend where ever I can. WHY?
Simply because it hurts the locals by creating a welfare mentality in them and it hurts the visitors by painting a skewed picture of the indigenous......................
RODNEY KING ONCE SAID, "wHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??" Well duh, because some people just dont want to.....
That is my experience with the Christian Travel Agents. They just do not want to work with anyone who really works here because they might lose a precious buck or 2???
BTW-McFEZ ECKSTEIN, I still want my truck back, no matter what a grand "poster" YOU ARE....................i KNOW YOUR CONSCIENCE IS SPEAKING TO YOU, SO JUST LET IT GO OR AT LEAST LET US SHARE IT........
tO EVERYBODY ELSE, i AM GLAD i WAS GOOD FOR A LAUGH. lAUGHTER IS AFTER ALL THE Best MEDICINE........
lOVE,
AIMS

CaboRon - 8-7-2011 at 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by motoged
WOW !!??? :wow:

The righteous get self-righteous ... :lol:

Ya gotta love it... :barf:

I say do away with ALL the missionaries... :light:

The world would be a better place without missionaries .....

CaboRon - 8-7-2011 at 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by fishabductor

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Martyman
What is the opposite of the missionaries position?

The Altar Boy position. :barf:

[Edited on 3-28-2011 by DENNIS]

Oh...You are SO bad...

...but funny as hell

I think we are both going to hell.

I'll see you there ...

Was it a Ford or Mac?

mcfez - 8-7-2011 at 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by aimee76

BTW-McFEZ ECKSTEIN, I still want my truck back, no matter what a grand "poster" YOU ARE....................i KNOW YOUR CONSCIENCE IS SPEAKING TO YOU, SO JUST LET IT GO OR AT LEAST LET US SHARE IT........
tO EVERYBODY ELSE, i AM GLAD i WAS GOOD FOR A LAUGH. lAUGHTER IS AFTER ALL THE Best MEDICINE........
lOVE,
AIMS

What da hell are you mumbling about? Taking your truck? You were doing just fine here till you decided to muck my name here.

First of all.....I praised your efforts here in this discussion several times. Not a negative about you. I went on line...found...copied..and pasted in information about this guy you are complaining about (that's called helping BTW).

Let's keep the facts Godly clear.

"a grand "poster" YOU ARE................."
Yes..and proud of it. Information I offer here is appreciated..... by many reading the BN. Fact is....DavidK, Dennis, Ken Cooke, shari, motoged, nbacc, ramuma53, and a few hundred others here are thankfully grand posters here.

You? One. Just one post. WHOOPEE! You are not in any position to judge any of us here.

I now should request Doug... to convey this post of your over on the OFF TOPIC Forums. You have gone from offering some information about charities in Baja...to personal hatred of certain groups and people.

In fact...why dont you start a new post in Off Topics....and I'll be happy to rip you....your last few retorts here implied that all other "help" organizations are evil...while you are the lone savor of the land. Ya...righto.

Now...be cool here at the BN

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aimee76 - 8-8-2011 at 08:47 PM

hmmmmm.
If you are feeling "judged" it is certainly not coming from me. I am in NO position to judge anyone and don't want to be. Maybe you aren't actually the person I thought you were...................there are folks with the same last apellido/name out there.
One thing I do know is 'that your conscience will either accuse you or excuse you", that's what I have read and experienced anyway. Just a personal opinion.
Maybe you didn't know the circumstances behind the whole situation.
Also lets be clear there are many, many AWESOME people doing AWESOME work down here............people who have given up everything else to serve the poor...................I NEVER SAID NOONE HERE WAS HELPING THE DISADVANTAGED.................THE ONLY BEEF I HAVE ARE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHARGING VISITING FOREIGNERS TO TAKE POVERTY TOURS.
Is that clear? And I maintain that position.
I am nobody's, and I reiterate NOBODy's Saviour and I forgive u for even implying that I would think that.

My point is that there are many many people (expats) down here who do not know about these agencies that CHARGE visitors to seethe poor while interfering with the work of the persons who labor here year in year out............I thought and still think that people need to be aware that this practice is going on and that these groups are damaging to this particular area.

Hopefully, those who hear this will discourage others from participating in such activities.

What else can I say? Even if you are the person I thought you were, maybe you didn't know the circumstances behind the catering truck's donation, I am assuming I made a mistake regarding who you are, and since I have attempted to contact that person time and time again and he refused to respond I saw the opportunity to contact that person publicly...........evidently it was a case of "misidentification" (if there is such a word) and I publicly apologize if I did. The last thing I want to do is "muck" your name up.........................

Again-EVERYBODY AT BAJA NOMADS, my apologies to McFez and may he be ever blessed.

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