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Lady's Bars...who dare to tell me what goes on there???

Anonymous - 8-26-2004 at 01:46 PM

I've seen Lady's Bars in Ensenada and La Paz before. And now there is one going in near Mulege. I'll expect either no answers, or anonymouse at best to the question...Just what happens at a Lady's Bar from the time you walk in to the time you leave? The usual pattern is what? You can start your response with "I've heard that..." if you want.
Thanks, signed Curious 1

whodat54321 - 8-26-2004 at 02:18 PM

simply put, a product in demand.

there's been a demand for eons for places for chicks to party with other chicks, and not be hit on by dudes all the time. these are simply bars that cater to 'girls nights out'. Probably no different that any other party spot, just no dudes allowed.:(

wrong

fishinrich - 8-26-2004 at 02:52 PM

54321 you are so wrong it's funny. Ladies bars are where guys go to get laid!!! They are bars that do not employ any full time hookers but allow girls to freelance out of the bar for a commission fee. The guys show up the girls show up and business is taken care of. If you notice most all ladies bars have what appears to be small hotels attached to them and I do not think I have to explain what the rooms are used for. They are all over the peninsula usually just outside of town. fishin rich

Well, not exactly

jrbaja - 8-26-2004 at 02:52 PM

there Who. It seems I have read something to the effect that because ladies were not allowed in "non ladies" bars, they came up with ladies bars where they weren't frowned upon for being floozies.
This was so respectable women had a respectable place to go to get snockered rather than your typical cantina.
I think the same still applies although minus the respectable part from what I have seen.
The ladies are still there alrighty, but I'm pretty sure they are up to something besides just quenching their thirst.:O

Anonymous - 8-26-2004 at 03:58 PM

Although there are bars in La Paz, San Felipe (at times), and Ensenada (Anthony's).... Tijuana certainly takes the crown for supply and demand.

Most popular and safe for newbies: Chicago Club and Adelitas in the Zona Norte. Don't walk in though... take a cab.

For more info:

http://tijuanafaq.com
http://chicachica.net
http://tjamigos.com
http://tijuana.clubhombre.com

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=aspt+group:alt.sex.prostit...


burro bob - 8-26-2004 at 04:48 PM

Anon
I don't ever rember a time when there wasn't a ladies bar in San Felo.
If you went to a sushi bar what would you expect to find?
fishinrich has it right.
Have we got 2 anonymous posters on this thread?
burro bob

CURIOUS

Anonymous - 8-26-2004 at 05:42 PM

Was that the response you were looking for?

JESSE - 8-26-2004 at 06:43 PM

Do you mean hoar houses?

[Edited on 8-27-2004 by JESSE]

Ladys Bars

mcgyver - 8-26-2004 at 06:55 PM

Green Door, Algodones.

WOW...thanks!

Anonymous - 8-27-2004 at 06:32 AM

Thanks, looks like I asked the question in the right place. Took me an hour to work through all the links. Veeerrry interesting!
Curious 1:O

wilderone - 8-27-2004 at 10:15 AM

Well, I went into a ladies' bar in Chuhuahua and I didn't get the impression that the women were there to get picked up. Maybe I just didn't "get it" (!!?). We had a good time - drinking beer that is - nothing else!! The bar was part of the hotel, but it was in a tourist area.

bajalou - 8-27-2004 at 11:26 AM

Any woman in a "Ladies Bar" in San Felipe MUST have a health card from the local Dr. that checks the "ladies" on a bi-weekly basis. Any woman without the card is subject to arrest. So say the local policia

my fav one in rocky point is

capt. mike - 8-27-2004 at 04:08 PM

club "guao guao". anybody been there?

i'm up for a TJ "club" tour with anyone who wants to venture.....

ditto for STA. Rosalio area:coolup::biggrin::cool:

Yep

jrbaja - 8-27-2004 at 04:15 PM

truly a fun one Mike. A guy from Pe?asco took me there one night. We were talking to this friend of his who told us about his first experience with Viagra.
Bottom line was, " I couldn't believe it, $300.00 in a $30.00 hoar house".:lol:

Seems to me....

Herb - 8-27-2004 at 07:21 PM

like this would be a good topic for BigSwingingVerga to post a reply... :lol::lol:

Or maybe at least chime in with his take on the subject of Hummers:o:coolup:

Perhaps a new section

jrbaja - 8-27-2004 at 07:39 PM

X Rated Baja Topics. Sounds fun to me hahahahahahaha
We could start with my nickname for tequila shots, "panty droppers":lol:

Mexican marketing research...what a joke

CasaManzana - 8-27-2004 at 08:54 PM

I can verify that there is a Lady's Bar about to open just outside the village of Mulege...I drove by there today. There is no way this place can support a Lady's Bar. "Mexican Marketing research" must be just an oxymarooon. Just 3K/persons here supported by a retirement community where 65 is young. Hello! They should set up in Loreto FHS. Fly-in golfers and fisherpersons in the 30-60 age group, and the villagers have some spendable income there. I know Loreto, and there is not a Lady's Bar there now or ever...in the last 22 years anyway. There's where the market is...think I'll start looking for investors. Have your people call my people, we got somethin' going here.

not in loreto? come on....(so to speak...)

capt. mike - 8-28-2004 at 06:50 AM

what about the one north of the La Pinta a couple of miles, on the beach? are you saying its closed?

need to get more

fishinrich - 8-28-2004 at 06:52 AM

Casa you obviously need to get out more. There has been a hoar house in loreto for over 25 years. Just north of town. It is owned by the chinese man that owns the markets and lumber stores in mulege which sounds like your home turf. Market research???? yah right---believe me the place will be a thriving business. I have never seen one go out of business and for mexicans that it saying a lot. You say the age in mulege is to old, well that is just who will be there, all those horney old men with fat ugly wives. fishin rich

Ladies Bar in Loreto

capn.sharky - 8-28-2004 at 10:24 AM

Oops---sorry about above--I am geting old. Yes, there is a ladies bar in Loreto at the top of town, it is called Julio's Bar. Says right on the door its a ladies bar. A guy got stuck with a knife there a couple a years ago. Why? Why over a lady of course. There a couple more around town on some of the lesser traveled roads. Calle Baja California has one that is closed now, but will be open soon. Bar El Messe and Bar Marlin are not designated ladies bars, but act as a ladies bar and one can get ones pistol cleaned in these places.

Oh goody

jrbaja - 8-28-2004 at 10:48 AM

I've been looking for a good gun smith.:lol:

Ladies Bars in Mexico/Or anywhere else

mcgyver - 8-28-2004 at 11:26 AM

Some of you people must live in those gated american enclaves we hear so much about and comute by helicopter.

Naw

jrbaja - 8-28-2004 at 11:39 AM

I just don't pass by any on my way to church.

hey JR.....guess Carol not

capt. mike - 8-29-2004 at 10:36 AM

monitoring here?! Ha.;D

Casa Manzana - where is the location for the booty house in mulege? i will go there (just for a drink....) when i hit town 10th. i'll give an "incomplete" report on my return....:spingrin:

actually given the no. of guys i know who venture to Sta. Rosalia for some side play, mulege may be a hot location. And Loreto has not slowed down.....

After 16 years Mike

jrbaja - 8-29-2004 at 10:39 AM

she just knows not to listen to my BS. Hah:lol:

reply to Capt Mike

CasaManzana - 8-29-2004 at 05:38 PM

Location...if you are heading south from town, just before the Pemex but on the right side....kinda near the Palapa Restaurant. Lots of fancy new paint, and the parking lot was being cleaned and raked as I saw it with my drive-by. Hope they put in a Pac-Man game machine fer us ol' timers. I (and we) will hold you to the report offered.

ha!!!

capt. mike - 8-30-2004 at 06:15 AM

next to Saul's La Palapa! ? no body can risk parking there....all of us mulege regulars go to the palapa fo great cheap eats. if i am headed to a cat house (again, just to have a drink.....not to get scratched! ) i need to be incognito. bad bad choice for location!:lol:

Facts!!!!!

Skeet/Loreto - 8-30-2004 at 12:42 PM

1968-Loreto

There was a "Cathouse" located just North of Loreto to supply the Workers building the Road North.

On completion of the Road, a group of Locals went out and burned it to the ground. The Concrete Slabe was left and used by the first Campers that arrived.

Later Mr. Yee and several other Locals built "The Penthouse" where it is still in operation, not for long as Lots in the and around are being Sold for $160,000. USD.

On many of my walks from Rancho Sonrisa, I would stop and chat with the Girls{Usually after their monring Bath} who are required to have weekly Medicals.

In recent years their has been a large number of young Girls in Loreto that are supplying the needs of Visitors in all of the Hotels{Except the Hotel Oasis}.

My very good Friend, a Doctor, is trying very hard to Control the Medical Problems associated with the Young Street Girls.

Soooooooo! If you can't keep your "Pecker" in your Pants, take some medicine with you!!!

Skeet/Loreto

Skeet---You have to be kidding

capn.sharky - 8-30-2004 at 03:58 PM

$160,000 for a lot up there. Holy Crap, Batman. Only a Canadian would go for that. Actually, I was friends with one of the Mexicans that got involved in developing that area as a campground and swimming pool---for everyone including the locals in town. They wanted to sell memberships at a very cheap price so everyone could enjoy the pool, tennis courts, etc. Surprizing, they put $25,000 in the local bank. It disappeared along with the bank manager and the son of the guy that owned the land the Penthouse was on. You probably know all this already. It is in the courts in La Paz but the wheels grind very slow in Mexico. These people owned the sailboat that was moored out in front of Loreto for several years. It was moved to Puerto Escondido when my friend took a job with Alma. She has gone on to other things now. $160K you must mean in pesos, my friend. No water, no electricity no nothing. I guess the Penthouse is gone, but you can still get screwed up there.

jrbaja - 8-30-2004 at 05:07 PM

:lol::lol::lol:

yeah, for $16K U.S.

capt. mike - 8-30-2004 at 06:18 PM

i'll pay cash today! i think the key here Sharkey, is HOW BIG a lot is it? hectares??

Mike---Put on your glasses

capn.sharky - 8-30-2004 at 07:43 PM

Not 16K---Skeet said it was 160K. I am not sure I would buy all of Loreto for that much money. I am retired and not rich and stupid...a deadly combination. There are not enough hectares up there to warrant that kind of money. Looks like the Canadians will have to buy it---as far as I am concerned. They (or at least one female member of their parliment) call us American bastards. If we stopped spending 180 billion dollars in Canada, I wonder if they would still have the money to spend buying out Baja California. Not to cast dispersions on our fine Northern neighbors. But, it does seem like they have a lot to spend. Maybe they are trying to sorround us. Getting back to the subject at hand---even $16K per hectare would be too much up north of town. I liked it better when it housed the cathouse. At least when you got screwed, you could come and go.

you guys...

dbrooks - 8-30-2004 at 08:23 PM

are classic. Great string.

One-Hundred-Sixty-Thousand Dollars!

Skeet/Loreto - 8-31-2004 at 04:16 AM

Yes ,Beachfront property in Loreto is expensive!

Several years ago I looked into the 250 Hectares which surronds the "Penthouse"
This Property was owned by the local 7 of Loreto and Had Clear Title.The Southern View is Great, Rock Beach Front,small Hill behind, with no water or Electric.
I was told that the Beachfrontage was divided into 5/10 lots with 100 Ft. frontage.

At the "Gated Community located further North, water is being delivered by Truck from Loreto. This sub-division sets in the Middle and Edge of a former dump and Low Salt Lake Bed. It is doubtful, given another Storm such as "Lisa", that it will survive.

"Let the Buyer Beware" To each His Own!

Skeet/Loreto

"In God I Trust'

Sharkey...you are TOO funny.

capt. mike - 8-31-2004 at 04:53 AM

what i was trying to impart was that if the 160K was in pesos, then it would be about 16K in U.S. federal reserve notas!!

the Q is how big is Skeeter's lota??

Capt. Jorge still has one in town i theeeeeenk. quanto questa por ese?.

Okay--I get it now, Capt.Miguel

capn.sharky - 8-31-2004 at 11:50 AM

Unfortunately I knew the Skeeter meant dollars US. Skeet is right about the salt flats and flooding up there. I have been up there after small storms and you can't get through. A large storm and you will find your casita de playa out on Isla Coronado (not a bad location if you have a boat). There seems to be some sort of frantic need to buy land in Loreto. If it goes up as much as it has in the past thirty years, if will be worth a little less than you paid for it in only ten years. Want to invest in land that will really go up---buy land in Southern California (or any of the Western States)....but not Loreto. No, land buying is not an investment in Loreto. It may be a necessity, if you are planning on building a house. What kills me is that there are plenty of good Mexican houses for sale in Loreto in nice Mexican neighborhoods. They are very reasonably priced. Don't like the interior layout? Gut it and redo it. They are all mainly cement block houses. You can do a lot of the work yourself. Some Americans and most Canadians want to build a monument to themselves in Baja. Fine---just don't screw up the inviornment. Afraid of Mexican people? No problema---go someplace like Villas de Loreto with a big fence around it . Hell, its like staying at the new hotels. If you take the van from the airport to the hotel, you won't even know you are in Mexico. Now, I don't mean to get off on a rant here.....but.............Have a nice day. Or as they say in Eastern Canada--did you read what the American Bastard Sharky wrote?

Mike

Skeet/Loreto - 9-1-2004 at 04:02 AM

10MtrsX30Mtrs =300 Sq. Mtrs.

Just right for a Rock Structure with a Palapa on Top for a beautiful View of the Water and plenty of Sea Breeze.

Skeet

sumtin not right here

capt. mike - 9-1-2004 at 07:45 AM

30 ft by 100 ft? 3000 SF? that's not even a 1/10 of an AC. do you mean 300 by 1000? 300K SF?

Skeet, get yaself one 'em new fangled calkyouletters and punch in some figgers!!!;D

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by capt. mike]

Lady's bar...mulege...1st hand report (hey somebody had to do it)

CasaManzana - 10-2-2004 at 09:36 PM

So I'm coming by the new Mulege Lady's Bar, next to the La Palapa Restaurant, on my way home to Posada Beach at just about dark last night. For the very first time I see any activity there, I see an old Honda with about 10 cases of beer on the roof rack parked out front. It has never been open that i know of before. i swing in to talk to the guy (age 35+/-) and he says he the mgr/bar tender. I forget his name, but we have all seen him for the last ten years working for Javier at the Las Casitas restaurant in town. He speaks good gringo. He says they are only open Fri-Sun nights between dark and 5 AM...yep, 5 AM! There were two of the most killer chicks I have EVER seen setting up tables. Boy-0-boy, they didn't buy those outfits in Mulege, or SR either. In the mid-20's and extremely trim and toned. The mgr says the two girls- NO SEX! No! You pay 40 pesos for a beer and they dance with you. They have a killer stereo setup there. House gets half and half to the girl. He said that "sometimes", maybe about midnight or so, there are "sometimes" ladys that do come in that ask for your pleasures. They offer NO accommodations and he says the parking lot can become interesting at times. He said the Lady's Bars in SR do operate differently, but that Mulege is "just too small". That's my story and I'm sticking to it.:rolleyes:

huh......like the guy on laugh in used to say,

capt. mike - 10-3-2004 at 05:06 AM

veeeeeery intehrestink!

I'll be there this weekend.......:lol::lol::lol:

tim40 - 10-3-2004 at 03:47 PM

Okay Cpt Mike....and like Paul Harvey still says....and the rest of the story.....

pictures

mulege marv - 10-13-2004 at 08:27 AM

i have a few pics of the ladies inside the "ladies bars" but would not like to be banned from the site by posting them. take my word for it they are gunsmiths:o

i have never seen a post get so many responses !

Dave - 10-13-2004 at 08:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mulege marv
take my word for it they are gunsmiths:o


Perfect for when your pistola needs a little work.;D

I was there (mulege) last weekend

capt. mike - 10-13-2004 at 12:01 PM

but with the Sams and my wife was along. So....i didn't get by there, except we ate at Saul's La Palapa Sat noche. I plumb forgot all about the casa por bailar!
i am back end of Oct so i'll try and stop over. Plus......we'll be there with a bunch of rowdies Sat after the 1000 so maybe it will be a bunch punch.:cool::wow::o

Capt. Mike "need a boat"??

Phil S - 10-13-2004 at 06:18 PM

Hey Mike. My brother wants to sell his 22 & 1/2 ft. ponga with trailer & 70 HP Force (Mercury) w/12 gal. tank. Center console. Full canvas cover & bimini top. It's at Loreto right now> Price is $5,750.00 complete. I'll be there by the 22nd. Leaving the 15th October from Oregon. You can call me. You have the number. Phil S.

yes phil - i'd like to see it.

capt. mike - 10-14-2004 at 06:47 AM

but i am not sure i have your ph no.
Pls email me

n7369p at earthlink dot net

i can come to loreto to see it.
the furnishings list has more stuff than i can use but thx for sending. if he decides to parcel it i would take 1/3 of it easy.

The boat sounds right up my alley though!

And Phil - i am in mulege oct 29-31 for mex-i-ween,
i can bounce over to loreto sat morning or fri afternoon, or fri morning - whenever
how can i call you to confirm an arrival? -i'll need a ride from the airport.

[Edited on 10-14-2004 by capt. mike]

Oso - 10-15-2004 at 07:49 PM

Once again I come in way late on a thread and find that language and terminology has evolved beyond my reference points. In the early sixties in Mexico City, "Ladies Bars" were a new innovation that had absolutely nothing to do with prostitution. Au Contraire, they were an alternative to the traditional Mexican Cantina in which the only women allowed were indeed licensed prostitutes ( "decent" women were allowed to purchase a quick shot of tequila through a pass-through around the corner, labeled as 'Dpto. de Mujeres" about the size of a closet with no chair.)

"Ladies Bars" in those days were an attempt to emulate American c-cktail lounges where no stigma was attached to female patrons, accompanied or not. The message, at the time, was that this was a place that you could have a drink with your wife or girlfriend without a bunch of drunken machos assuming she was a "working girl".

Obviously, the term has come to mean something else.

I think for most on here

jrbaja - 10-15-2004 at 09:12 PM

the use of the term "ladies Bar" comes from Anthony's in Ensenada. The first bar that most people see when they get to "Mexico" is indeed an establishment full of ladies of ill repute and they advertise it as a "Ladies Bar".

Guaymas story

Oso - 10-16-2004 at 08:52 AM

I've posted this elsewhere before, but it seems appropriate to drag it back up here. This is one of those "happened to a friend of a friend" stories so I can't verify but here goes:

Two middle-aged American couples went on vacation together in Guaymas. The guys went fishing, the gals went shopping. Around mid-day it was getting warm and the ladies were getting tired. They felt like sitting down and having a marg, so they looked around and spotted a Cantina. Their limited understanding was that this was a bar. So, they went in and sat down, completely ignoring the small sign saying "Prohibida la entrada de menores, mujeres y militares en uniforme" required over the door of all traditional Mexican cantinas. The patrons looked at them with curiosity but the cantinero served them. No margaritas, of course, as no Mexican con cojones would drink such a sissy concoction. So, they settled for beer.

A few minutes later, a policeman entered, approached the ladies and began questioning them. They understood nothing until through forceful gestures, they realized they would have to accompany him to the "hoosegow".

When the guys returned from fishing, the gals were not at the hotel. As it grew later, they began to worry. As luck would have it, one of the bellhops had heard that a couple of gringas had been arrested downtown. With the helpful "botones" in tow for translation, they went to the Juzgado where they found their wives behind bars.

Inquiring as to the charges, the guard informed them that the girls had been arrested for practicing prostitution without a license. "What about bail?" They were informed that since this was a Saturday, nothing could be done until the magistrate returned on Monday. Naturally, the wives were devastated at the thought of spending a weekend in the Guaymas jail, a somewhat less than four star establishment.

Much time was wasted arguing back and forth through the interpreter, until finally a lightbulb shone above the head of one of the gringos. "How much does a prostitute license cost?", he asked. "Fifty pesos", was the answer, $4 USD at the time. "If we pay this now, will you release them?" "Yes, of course, but they will also have to go to the Clinica for a health certificate before entertaining any more customers."

Bottom line; the guys paid the eight bucks and watched, with barely suppressed grins, as the policeman typed their wives' names on two official looking documents, and released the women. I am told that they had them framed and that they are on the walls of their respective rumpus room bars at home to this day.

:o:(:light::rolleyes::lol:

Thanks Oso

jrbaja - 10-16-2004 at 09:36 AM

One of those stories you just never get tired of hearing.:lol:

Bang 4 the buck...

CasaManzana - 10-16-2004 at 11:45 PM

Where on earth are you gunna get this kind of entertainment for the price you pay I ask??? Every turn is an adventure into the unknown, and the history is written much because of the players involved.:yes:

David K - 11-30-2004 at 09:07 PM

One of the huge threads on Amigos de Baja was a directory of peninsula hoarhouses. The one on the edge of La Paz sounded the most interesting, I recall.

I do believe our late friend 'Chopy', when he was known as ESL (el surfo loco) had the most details. I know another single man who could enlighten us, but will let him come forward on his own. I have been to Zona Norte (Tijuana) with friends to see a couple places, but was far too shy to sample the products!:saint::yes:

Ladies Bars of La Paz

bajalera - 11-30-2004 at 11:07 PM

A place I used to visit fairly often in La Paz during the '60s, which had Ladies Bar painted across its window, was the type Oso described. With its main entry on the back side of the Hotel Mision and another from inside the hotel, it was just around the corner from the Malecon. A dinky little place-- three or four tables and room for maybe five or six people--if they were very good friends--at the bar.

The first time my husband and I came in and sat at a table, three men sitting at the bar were having a really loud argument. They stopped shouting abruptly, however, when I sneezed. All three turned around to look our way, said "Salud!"--and then resumed yelling at each other. (Sneezes don't seem to get that kind of response these days.)

I also made single visit to the Ranchito when it was up on the hill--thanks to Jerry Klinck [sp?]. What I remember about this place is that when I asked where the bathroom was, someone called the manager. Who told me there wasn't one for a lady. When I gave him a choice between letting me use one of the girls' bathrooms or p*ssing on his floor, he finally talked to a shy little girl who ushered me into her room with so many apologies and so much deference that I really felt uncomfortable. (And yes, I sat on the seat. )

bajalera

David K - 11-30-2004 at 11:23 PM

How well did you know Jerry Klink ('Mighty Cortez Fish Trap')?

My '74/'75 guide publisher (Luisa Porter, Baja Bulletin Magazine) left her husband in Santa Monica and ran off to be with Jerry in January of '75... , and I never got a dime from her from the sales of my Baja roadguide.

I later saw the Baja Bulletin was being published in La Paz, by Luisa Porter-Klink. So, I guess they got married?

Years later, friends Bob and Pat of Vista (I met them on Shell Island... they drive a motorhome onto the beach there) told me they took Luisa and Jerry to dinner in La Paz... they appeared to be in the poor house, to the Hales.

Small world, huh?

bajalera - 12-1-2004 at 10:04 PM

Dave, Jerry was someone I chatted casually with a few times at the Perla dining room or Los Cocos or wherever, but haven't seen since 1968. I don't remember who was with him when someone suggested visiting the Ranchito, or where we were, either. [I may be losing my long-term memory, of course, but it's also possible that Margaritas were involved.]

Lee

On the cover...

Sallysouth - 12-2-2004 at 11:09 AM

David,isn't that a picture of your Mom and Ramon Villalejos holding the Dorado?

David K - 12-2-2004 at 11:21 PM

Yes, it is Sally. We had a much bigger bull dorado my mom caught for a cover photo, but Luisa nixed it because my mom was in a two piece... too risque I guess!

Ramon was very nice. I have a photo of him and his dad, as well.

For the rest of you, Ramon was a commercial shark fisherman at Juncalito (near Puerto Escondido) who would take us out fishing in his panga... we would stop for lunch on an island beach, do some snorkeling, then fish some more.

In 1973, the cost was $25, I recall. We also stopped next to some scallop divers, and bought some off their boat. My dad made some c-cktail sauce, and we had raw scallops in our Playa Lorteo hotel room that evening! Excellent!!!

Ken Cooke - 12-2-2004 at 11:31 PM

David, you've taken the thread off-topic...:fire:

David K - 12-3-2004 at 12:12 AM

So what?

I was asking a question in one reply, then answering a question in another.

Threads often go off topic... You should read Nomad during the times between your events, too.

Ken Cooke - 12-3-2004 at 05:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
You should read Nomad during the times between your events, too.
I'm still going through Amigos De Baja separation-anxiety...:(

-Ken

PirateJohn - 12-12-2004 at 01:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
Once again I come in way late on a thread and find that language and terminology has evolved beyond my reference points. In the early sixties in Mexico City, "Ladies Bars" were a new innovation that had absolutely nothing to do with prostitution. Au Contraire, they were an alternative to the traditional Mexican Cantina in which the only women allowed were indeed licensed prostitutes ( "decent" women were allowed to purchase a quick shot of tequila through a pass-through around the corner, labeled as 'Dpto. de Mujeres" about the size of a closet with no chair.)

"Ladies Bars" in those days were an attempt to emulate American c-cktail lounges where no stigma was attached to female patrons, accompanied or not. The message, at the time, was that this was a place that you could have a drink with your wife or girlfriend without a bunch of drunken machos assuming she was a "working girl".

Obviously, the term has come to mean something else.



I'm going to second this gent's comment. It may be a regional thing, but in mainland Mexico a "ladies bar" is where the tourists go, i.e. they will serve ladies. Drinks, that is ;)

Prostitution isn't illegal in most part of Mexico. Those places that have a sign up advertising in Spanish "no ladies, no police, etc." almost always have ladies working there that don't serve drinks, if'n you get my drift.


PirateJohn
www.PirateJohn.com

And who would know more about these things

jrbaja - 12-12-2004 at 02:27 PM

than a pirate!! Welcome aboard Matie:biggrin: