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JR was right...Bamboo is good

mcfez - 4-4-2011 at 08:22 PM

Yes...bamboo has arrived in San Felipe.....just as JR predicted that it's use would be wide spread in Baja someday. Being commercially grown in Mexicali according to the person that built this overhang.

Use of Ocotillo is now strictly forbidden.......to a point they have a "Ocotillo cop" in SF. Apparently he come thru our camp sometime ago...accordingly to Salvador Jr.

bam.jpg - 40kB

I Remember JR's Pictures of His Truck

Gypsy Jan - 4-4-2011 at 09:06 PM

And his house at La Barca.

He worked really hard to jump start a sustainable econcomy for the people and to start up ecotourism in the area.

He had a dream.

DENNIS - 4-4-2011 at 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
He had a dream.


43 years ago today, another man with a dream was murdered in Memphis. :(

Yes, I Was Connecting That Together in My Head Also

Gypsy Jan - 4-4-2011 at 09:32 PM

Not trying to make this about me, but at the Thanksgiving dinner in that year, my very Southern-rooted family started talking about what a good thing that was.

My mother picked me up and left the house and we never attended a family event after that.

Bob H - 4-4-2011 at 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
And his house at La Barca.

He worked really hard to jump start a sustainable econcomy for the people and to start up ecotourism in the area.

He had a dream.


I met JR and shook his hand. A partial view of his truck is in the background!



JZ - 4-4-2011 at 10:36 PM

The most interesting guy that's ever posted on a message board.

Bob H - 4-4-2011 at 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by JZ
The most interesting guy that's ever posted on a message board.


Pompano is very, very close. A dead heet!!

Cirio - 4-12-2011 at 11:53 PM

My first post. I have a thought and I need to get it off my chest. Bamboo - love the plant.

I'm looking to buy a small plot in the Mulege valley above the river. It's not big but I'd image it's in the flood plain. I've visited Mulege in the past but didn't stay long. Reading and looking at all the images of the devastating hurricanes followed by flash-floods, I can certainly see it hit the community hard. Being a plantsman I was figuring out the various plants I'd grow. Bamboo came to mind, possibly from this post or just because I've grown several species and cultivars over the years. I started looking at the google map for the plot and then started looking at the whole valley and realized property borders have a line of some shrubs/small trees/etc. I wondered how hard it would be to have property borders with bamboo in a 10' wide strip with bamboo barrier to keep it in check. Would locals be interested/willing to plant bamboo for a diversified crop?

The bamboo would provide an easy to grow building material (with irrigation) and also provide soil stabilization during flash floods as well as capture floating debris/prevent debris from damaging homes, etc. A wall of bamboo sorta acts like a sieve and reduces the speed of water. Species selection would be the most important thing and I can see timber bamboo along the rivers edge to prevent erosion and reduce the speed the river spilled it's banks.

Ok, it's just an idea. I certainly don't know Mulege, politics, topography, people, etc but I do know bamboo and would know the technique to bring a project like that to fruition. It might provide an additional agricultural product for sale within Baja. Hopefully someone will atleast consider this.

A few links to backup my thoughts:
http://www.bamboocraft.net/forums/showthread.php?t=600
http://www.lewisbamboo.com/tessinfo.html
http://www.inbar.int/publication/txt/INBAR_PR_11.htm
http://www.jmbamboo.com/erosion.htm


Phyllostachys vivax2 by growin, on Flickr
Phyllostachys vivax @ Huntington Botanical Garden in LA last year.

[Edited on 4-13-2011 by Cirio]

DENNIS - 4-13-2011 at 04:19 AM

Follow your dream, Cirio. Welcome to BajaNomad.

Cypress - 4-13-2011 at 06:20 AM

Ciro, Welcome aboard. There's a patch of bamboo that borders my family home down in MS. The large variety. Comes in handy for all sorts of uses. Needs a good bit of water.:D

Rio Hardy

mcfez - 4-13-2011 at 06:39 AM

Welcome to the BN Cirio


k45 ish off Mex 5 30 minutes south of Mexicali.

If you are into the business side of it......Rio Hardy and it's out lining area has plenty of water, good rates for land, and power. It's a farming community with a few small towns.....and the Rio Hardy (waterway).

Being a farmer as one of my businesses....we explored the Rio. You need to check it out.....before I grab your Bamboo idea ;)

DENNIS - 4-13-2011 at 07:46 AM

Shamelessly ripped-off from Fulano:

BAMBOO BIKES IN MEXICO CITY

http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/news_northamerica/2011-03-...

Cirio - 4-13-2011 at 01:18 PM

mcfez, Mexicali area is a bit too close to the border for me. This was just an idea and I guess the irrigation requirements would be too much. Atleast I got it off my chest and thanks for hearing me out. I can just only imagine having to deal with the flash flood and hurricane at the same time. They expect a busy 2011 hurricane season: http://www.weau.com/news/headlines/Experts_predicting_a_busy...

mtgoat666 - 4-13-2011 at 01:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cirio
My first post. I have a thought and I need to get it off my chest. Bamboo - love the plant.

I'm looking to buy a small plot in the Mulege valley above the river. It's not big but I'd image it's in the flood plain. I've visited Mulege in the past but didn't stay long. Reading and looking at all the images of the devastating hurricanes followed by flash-floods, I can certainly see it hit the community hard. Being a plantsman I was figuring out the various plants I'd grow. Bamboo came to mind, possibly from this post or just because I've grown several species and cultivars over the years. I started looking at the google map for the plot and then started looking at the whole valley and realized property borders have a line of some shrubs/small trees/etc. I wondered how hard it would be to have property borders with bamboo in a 10' wide strip with bamboo barrier to keep it in check. Would locals be interested/willing to plant bamboo for a diversified crop?

The bamboo would provide an easy to grow building material (with irrigation) and also provide soil stabilization during flash floods as well as capture floating debris/prevent debris from damaging homes, etc. A wall of bamboo sorta acts like a sieve and reduces the speed of water. Species selection would be the most important thing and I can see timber bamboo along the rivers edge to prevent erosion and reduce the speed the river spilled it's banks.

Ok, it's just an idea. I certainly don't know Mulege, politics, topography, people, etc but I do know bamboo and would know the technique to bring a project like that to fruition. It might provide an additional agricultural product for sale within Baja. Hopefully someone will atleast consider this.


be careful, bamboo is invasive, you might get more than you bargained for.

the best solution for mulege flooding is to avoid rebuilding in the flood zone,... but doubt people will ever learn that lesson.

Cirio - 4-13-2011 at 01:46 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666

be careful, bamboo is invasive, you might get more than you bargained for.

the best solution for mulege flooding is to avoid rebuilding in the flood zone,... but doubt people will ever learn that lesson.


Bamboo barrier: http://www.deeproot.com/products/geomembranes/applications/w... and use of short concrete drain pipe makes effective round plantings easily (which would work well at the edge of the river).

I'm not building, just growing seasonally.

[Edited on 4-13-2011 by Cirio]

David K - 4-13-2011 at 02:38 PM

Goat, there are zillions of varieties of bamboo, and only some are 'invasive'... Google up 'clumping bamboo' and discover the kind the grows only where you plant it and doesn't spread out.

Cirio - 4-13-2011 at 03:14 PM

The Mexican Weeping Bamboo (Otatea acuminata) is a good example of a clumper. Although it doesn't have the same building uses of the culms/canes, it slowly spreads and is an ideal candidate for the climate/soil/exposure. Planted along the edge of the river, it would slow the movement of water/debris during a flash-flood. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_weeping_bamboo

http://www.flickr.com/photos/growin/3472796162/in/set-721576...

[Edited on 4-13-2011 by Cirio]

mcfez - 4-13-2011 at 11:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cirio
mcfez, Mexicali area is a bit too close to the border for me. This was just an idea and I guess the irrigation requirements would be too much. Atleast I got it off my chest and thanks for hearing me out. I can just only imagine having to deal with the flash flood and hurricane at the same time. They expect a busy 2011 hurricane season: http://www.weau.com/news/headlines/Experts_predicting_a_busy...

I understand. Someday though...and the rest of you BN's.....tour the Rio Hardy area for a few days. I think it one of the best kept secrets in N Baja!

capt. mike - 4-14-2011 at 06:28 AM

THE ENTIRE palapa pool BAR and reception center palapa i am building in havasu right now is skinned in bamboo.
very cool, very tropical.
the palapas we are building are 100% thatched roof, the thatch we imported from the harvestor in west africa.
it is a reed plant.

mcfez - 4-14-2011 at 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by capt. mike
THE ENTIRE palapa pool BAR and reception center palapa i am building in havasu right now is skinned in bamboo.
very cool, very tropical.
the palapas we are building are 100% thatched roof, the thatch we imported from the harvestor in west africa.
it is a reed plant.


It'll last one very long time. What sort of fasteners are you using to veneer the bamboo ?

mulegemichael - 4-14-2011 at 07:47 AM

i think bamboo would be a really viable crop in the mulege valley...one could do a lot of experimenting with it...we grow several varieties at our washington farm but none down south yet...when you get to mulege, look us up; mike and roz.

capt. mike - 4-14-2011 at 10:44 AM

a special adhesive.
we get our bamboo from Cali Bamboo co.