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NO MORE CHICKEN McNUGGETS ALLOWED AT THE BORDER

DENNIS - 4-6-2011 at 12:15 PM

I'll bet ICE is training a herd of Chicken sniffing dogs to combat this threat to everything American. Thank Gawd our government really cares.
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/apr/06/border-entran...

Bob and Susan - 4-6-2011 at 12:20 PM

this is actually true

the "boys" at the border just got the word to enforce it

the question is...what part of the chicken does the "nugget" come from:o

DENNIS - 4-6-2011 at 12:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
the question is...what part of the chicken does the "nugget" come from:o


All parts actually. Noses...lips...pulverized feathers and mashed feet, just to name a few ingrediants.
Another question might be...how much pressure is required to press a paste of these ingredients into a chewable nugget that wont fall apart or break your caps?
A lot of thinking has gone into the development of these morsels, but again it seems that everything really yummy is bad for you or illegal. :lol:

mcfez - 4-6-2011 at 12:49 PM

I'm a bit lost here....how can cook chicken be a issue of a contagious bird disease ? Undercooked is the only thing I can think of. What's next?

DENNIS - 4-6-2011 at 01:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
I'm a bit lost here....how can cook chicken be a issue of a contagious bird disease ?


It probably doesn't have anything to do with anything except, maybe it distracts the drug dogs. I've never seen a dog that wouldn't eat a Chicken McNugget.

Sherman - 4-6-2011 at 01:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
this is actually true

the "boys" at the border just got the word to enforce it

the question is...what part of the chicken does the "nugget" come from:o

This would mean that hunters taking pheasant or quail in Mexico will not be able to bring the game back the US. These chicken-related (gallinaceous) wild birds can carry Newcastle's. I hunted pheasant & quail for many years down there (no longer), and we were always required to fully cook the birds to bring them back. Sounds like they are not going to trust hunters to cook their own birds, if there is some sort of certificate required to verify cooking.

surfer jim - 4-6-2011 at 03:05 PM

...well if they want the bird....just give them the "bird"....;)

BajaBlanca - 4-6-2011 at 03:16 PM

I tell you what, if someone forgets and brings eggs up thru the border check by accident, goes to secondary for a full check, after that they will be on "the list" and will most likely always be sent to secondary afterwards ...

if you come and visit us, ask Les to tell you his Polish sausage saga - it put him on "the list" for a looooooooooong time !!

monoloco - 4-6-2011 at 04:20 PM

If you really want to pee them off at the border bring a dog in heat. A border guard told me that it screws up their dogs for a week.

Timo1 - 4-6-2011 at 04:38 PM

Why would you want to screw them up ??? They're (canadian spelling for there)
obnoxious enough

Woooosh - 4-6-2011 at 04:46 PM

On Mon/Tue, the huge message billboard at the San Ysidro POE said no cooked "aves" (fowl) or hard boiled eggs. I was wondering more about the eggs than the birds. Of what risk is a hard boiled egg?

Foul Fowl

MrBillM - 4-6-2011 at 04:46 PM

It's hard to imagine ANYONE wanting to buy McNuggets in Mexico and eat them, much less transport them back.

As far as ICE seizures go, I'd always entertained an idea back in my mischievous days which I never implemented.

Buying up cheap small Ice Chests at the swap meet and bringing back one each trip with fish (sans Ice) inside and then throwing the whole thing in a dumpster after crossing. Seeing the reaction just one time when an agent opened the container "Might" be worth it.

On the other hand, those guys don't have a great sense of humor.

David K - 4-6-2011 at 04:46 PM

No pork, no chicken, no eggs, no oranges and some other fruit on the list, no potatoes, no fireworks, no more than 1 litre of beer or booze per person over 21 (CA residents).

Also, no excess dirt on vehicle, no firewood, oh, and no turtle products!:O

Woooosh - 4-6-2011 at 04:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Timo1
Why would you want to screw them up ??? They're (canadian spelling for there)
obnoxious enough

So the Canadians got it right in the contraction department? I don't think so... ;)

New Cooked Poultry And Eggs Restriction Entering USA

DavidE - 4-7-2011 at 03:18 PM

I used to cross with a pollo al carbon estilo sinolaoense as a picnic lunch northbound but not any more I guess... Here is the cut & paste from today's Union Tribune...



Border crossers must toss cooked poultry, eggs
By Elizabeth Aguilera

Wednesday, April 6, 2011 at 10:23 a.m.

Regulations prohibiting certain foods from entering the United States have changed to include cooked poultry and eggs from Mexico because of a contagious bird disease.

Those attempting to enter the U.S. with these cooked products, in a lunch or for delivery, will be refused entry or the poultry and eggs will be seized. Uncooked poultry and eggs were already on the prohibited list at the Ports of Entry.

The United States Department of Agriculture Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service implemented these new requirements this week on those traveling from countries where Exotic Newcastle Disease exists, including Mexico.

The requirements provide for passage of poultry that is accompanied by a government certification proving the meat was satisfactorily cooked or a USDA Veterinary Services import permit. Cooked eggs can also enter the U.S. if they are accompanied by a Veterinary Services import permit, unless the eggs are from Sinaloa or Sonora.

Exposure to birds infected by Exotic Newcastle Disease can cause mild influenza-like symptoms.

Woooosh - 4-7-2011 at 04:04 PM

"Cooked eggs can also enter the U.S. if they are accompanied by a Veterinary Services import permit, unless the eggs are from Sinaloa or Sonora."

a vet certificate for hard BOILED eggs? How much more sterile can you get than something boiled in water for 15 minutes?

motoged - 4-7-2011 at 04:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Timo1
Why would you want to screw them up ??? They're (canadian spelling for there)
obnoxious enough


Timo,
yer speling wuz korekt thu furst tyme :lol:

Bajahowodd - 4-7-2011 at 04:31 PM

I'd really like to see the science behind the cooked chicken and eggs thing. Pehaps it's an attempt to er on the side of caution knowing full well that both chicken and eggs can be cooked to a point that does not kill the bacteria, but still appears to be cooked to the naked eye of the average person.

That said, not sure how close there is a McDonalds to the gate in SY, but I am well aware that at both Otay and Tecate, there are McDonalds just before the lineup. Does anyone really think that McDonalds is guilty of undercooking anything other than coffee?

norte - 4-7-2011 at 06:08 PM

sounds like you Nay Sayers just need to boil your nuggets...


"NDV can survive for several weeks in a warm and humid environment on birds' feathers, manure, and other materials. It can survive indefinitely in frozen material. However, the virus is destroyed rapidly by dehydration and by the ultraviolet rays in sunlight, or 1 minute at boiling temperature.. "

No Problema ?

MrBillM - 4-7-2011 at 07:09 PM

"The requirements provide for passage of poultry that is accompanied by a government certification proving the meat was satisfactorily cooked or......................"

It being Mexico, you could probably get a Government Certification written by "someone" for a reasonable "Fee".

But, WHY ?

DENNIS - 4-8-2011 at 07:20 AM

Easter Eggs are illegal. Whoda thunk?????

Makes sense to me

MrBillM - 4-8-2011 at 09:21 AM

After all, there HAS to be something genetically suspect about a Rabbit Egg.

tjBill - 4-10-2011 at 03:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
No pork, no chicken, no eggs, no oranges and some other fruit on the list, no potatoes, no fireworks, no more than 1 litre of beer or booze per person over 21 (CA residents).

Also, no excess dirt on vehicle, no firewood, oh, and no turtle products!:O


I have always wondered about people crossing with their lunch. Do the inspectors go through a sandwhich and soup to make sure it has no bacon or guacamole? And do people actually prepare meals to meet customs regulations?