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US STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY FOR MEXICO

DENNIS - 4-22-2011 at 10:54 AM

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5440.html

woody with a view - 4-22-2011 at 11:13 AM

stay home. spend your feeble $'s locally. i won't, but who cares....?:light:

[Edited on 4-22-2011 by woody with a view]

Woooosh - 4-22-2011 at 11:55 AM

"More than a third of all U.S. citizens killed in Mexico in 2010 whose deaths were reported to the U.S. government were killed in the border cities of Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana."

Oh well. At least come down for the cheap gas, then wait three hours in line to get back with half a tank. (320 cars per line at San Ysidro today)

DENNIS - 4-22-2011 at 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
(320 cars per line at San Ysidro today)



It's a holiday here. The traffic going over to the Buf is just like a summer Sunday.

J.P. - 4-22-2011 at 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
"More than a third of all U.S. citizens killed in Mexico in 2010 whose deaths were reported to the U.S. government were killed in the border cities of Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana."
Yes and most ot the U.S. citzens that were killed were Dirty in so much they had dubious connections down here.:?::?:

sancho - 4-22-2011 at 12:11 PM

I'm the only one left I know that will drive across into Mex,
although friends will fly down to the Resorts, Vallarta,
CSL. I think the term US Citizens killed in Mex, has a very
LOOSE meaning. They may be US citizens, but I agree most
have a 'dubious' connection to Mex, not the casual
Gringo tourist

Woooosh - 4-22-2011 at 12:26 PM

Of course no innocent Americans or casual tourists were killed or we would have heard about it from the Union Tribune, right?

Cypress - 4-22-2011 at 12:33 PM

In all honesty, there are some very dangerous neighborhoods in the US. Been to a few of 'em. I'll take my chances down in Mexico any day or night.

mtgoat666 - 4-22-2011 at 12:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
"More than a third of all U.S. citizens killed in Mexico in 2010 whose deaths were reported to the U.S. government were killed in the border cities of Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana."


it would be helpful if they told us how many were cholos and other ne'er-do-wells.
perhaps tell us how many of the dead gringos had prison or gang tatoos.
need to expand on the description of bodies so it doesn't scare soccer mom tourists away.

DENNIS - 4-22-2011 at 01:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
In all honesty, there are some very dangerous neighborhoods in the US. Been to a few of 'em. I'll take my chances down in Mexico any day or night.


Actually, there are, and have been for a very long time, neighborhoods around Ensenada that when the sun goes down, the police wont go there.

Barbarosa - 4-22-2011 at 01:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
"More than a third of all U.S. citizens killed in Mexico in 2010 whose deaths were reported to the U.S. government were killed in the border cities of Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana."


it would be helpful if they told us how many were cholos and other ne'er-do-wells.
perhaps tell us how many of the dead gringos had prison or gang tatoos.
need to expand on the description of bodies so it doesn't scare soccer mom tourists away.


I don't think there's any helping folks up here. After all, folks in Calif are scared off by the report of a drug-related death in Juarez. They honestly don't seem to grasp that it's like someone in Fargo feeling in peril over a death in Chicago. After I came home, many folks insisted they knew of the peril I had been in better than I did. Actually argued vociferously in total ignorance about the situation in Baja.

One friend really dug in, so I asked her if she had *any* first hand knowledge. She began relating the story of a dead friend. Got my attention. Turned out the guy died in a mc crash and the story was about getting his body across the border. bfd

Bajahowodd - 4-22-2011 at 04:23 PM

Many good points made. In my opinion, the current situation is insustainable. But, not until the next presidential election cycle, will any changes be possible.''That said, I fear that once that election cycle gets into gear, things are really going to get ugly. Figure that the cartels will try to influence the election, not with advertising, but with body count.

DENNIS - 4-22-2011 at 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Figure that the cartels will try to influence the election, not with advertising, but with body count.


And candidates of their own. If they control legislators, they control the country.

bonanza bucko - 4-22-2011 at 04:46 PM

I used to stay in a hotel across from Union Station and two blocks from the US Capitol building in Washington D. C. If I walked out the front door and turned left instead of right...to cross the street to Union Station I was in imminent threat of being mugged or worse.

I submit that downtown Mexicali is safer than downtown Washington, D. C.

DENNIS - 4-22-2011 at 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by bonanza bucko
I submit that downtown Mexicali is safer than downtown Washington, D. C.


Probably is. Those Democrats will buy you with food stamps and eat you. :lol::lol:

DK told me to say that.

Bajahowodd - 4-22-2011 at 05:02 PM

Aw geez....:lol:

briantroy - 4-22-2011 at 08:26 PM

Downtown Mexicali feels like Mayberry when compared to some of the neighborhoods of San Diego, or much of LA for that matter. I have been visiting/part time living in TJ my entire life and never hesitate to travel there. There are certain areas you will not find me visiting, but there are also places up here in East Oceanside you will not see me visiting either. Just a shame very few of my friends will go to TJ/Rosarito/Ensenada with me anymore. Oddly enough, only my female friends don't seem to have a problem accompaning me.

Vacation Planning

MrBillM - 4-22-2011 at 10:06 PM

TJ or Watts ?

Mexicali or Barrio Logan ?

Gringo or Latino Ghetto.

The Kind of choices Tourists are faced with everyday.

No matter how absurd it is to compare Sh-tholes in U.S. cities to Vacation spots South, somebody can be counted on to do it.

Marc - 4-23-2011 at 10:15 AM

My little 95 Lb wife reads "Gods Middle Finger" says let's go. She has been all over Baja and the Sierra Madre with me. Her schedule has not allowed for more than those two trips south during the past three years.


[Edited on 4-23-2011 by Marc]

norte - 4-23-2011 at 10:23 AM

Its everywhere. Don't fool yourselves

Puerto Penasco (Rocky Point)

http://www.kold.com/story/12563364/consulate-clarifies-trave...

krafty - 4-23-2011 at 10:28 AM

Friends were supposed to come last wknd. but heard about the shooting at the border of the 2 guys in the car and decided against it-stupid, I say. Did anything more come out of that? They were supposed to have been guys that lived in TJ and worked in SD

DENNIS - 4-23-2011 at 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by krafty
Friends were supposed to come last wknd. but heard about the shooting at the border of the 2 guys in the car and decided against it-stupid, I say. Did anything more come out of that? They were supposed to have been guys that lived in TJ and worked in SD


US citizens, from what I can gather. Chamber of Commerce tried to sell it as a "Crime of Passion" but I don't buy it. That type of crime usually involves "one on one." This was "two on two." Very kinky if passion was really the motivation."

But, with Easter Week stareing them in the face, tourism may have been more adversely affected if the reports came out as, "US citizens murdered in Mexico. Reason unknown."

stanburn - 4-23-2011 at 12:40 PM

Like most of dennis' posts, yawn. Just because you have a thought doesn't mean you need to touch the keys.

but that is just my opinion as it seems the board is enamored with a guy that posts excesively. Again, just my opinion.

Dennis, you don't need to post to point out that you disagree. Show some restraint.

DENNIS - 4-23-2011 at 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by stanburn
Dennis, you don't need to post to point out that you disagree. Show some restraint.


So...I guess you're going to tell me when it's alright to voice my opinion?
If you don't like my posts, don't read them, or are you no stronger than your impulses?
Get a grip on yourself, Stanley. Really....slide your typing hand down the front of your second hand pants and, if there's anything there, grip it and don't let go.
If you're incapable of that much control over the little things in your life, tell it to someone else. I don't want to hear about it.

sancho - 4-23-2011 at 05:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by stanburn
Just because you have a thought doesn't mean you need to touch the keys.

as it seems the board is enamored with a guy that posts excesively.



I like D's posts, but I'm not enamored with him,
at least I hope not. I don't know what excessive is, but this is
called a discussion board. No sarcasm intended, but I'm going to apply that line you have
to myself, 'just because you have a thought doesn't mean
you have to touch the keys', good one

krafty - 4-24-2011 at 10:09 AM

Stanburn, we could have gone all week without that comment-was that necessary?? :?: Feel better now?

mcfez - 4-24-2011 at 12:09 PM

stanburn ...out making friends? :lol:

Now take that other hand you have available and slap yourself a few times .... for stupid remarks.


Fact is folks.....crime is a real b-tch in many areas....not just Mexico. Want to read the same concerns and fears as there is here at BN? Read below's link page...it's another Forum on Rio

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When I was in Rio, I was with my wife, who's Brazilian, from Rio, and I was directly instructed to never wear a watch or my necklace. Trying to fit in and not look like a tourist also helps. Don't wear clothing that screams I'm American if possible, particularly at night if you'll be walking through sketchy parts of town.

When I was there, there were many police patrolling the beach and the highways. However, Brazil in general is a country of the haves and the have nots. There is very little middle class in Brazil in comparison to many of the European/America/Canada countries.

IMO, you must play it smart form a tourist perspective. For instance, my wife's family when they go down for carnivale will not leave carnivale until the sun comes up.


http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g303506-i1199-k507919-C...

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Not enough for you?
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/64814248/

dangers in the US

C-Urchin - 4-24-2011 at 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
In all honesty, there are some very dangerous neighborhoods in the US. Been to a few of 'em. I'll take my chances down in Mexico any day or night.


Anybody take a leisurely stroll in South Central Los Angeles lately???:lol:

DENNIS - 4-24-2011 at 12:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by C-Urchin
Anybody take a leisurely stroll in South Central Los Angeles lately???:lol:


Nobody strolls in south central. They scoot.

mcfez - 4-24-2011 at 12:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by C-Urchin
Anybody take a leisurely stroll in South Central Los Angeles lately???:lol:


Nobody strolls in south central. They scoot.


They scoot or did you meant to say shoot? :lol: