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Highway litter

Barbarosa - 4-23-2011 at 12:04 PM

A point was made about all the trash along the highway.

Now admittedly, I've got one current data point and, no doubt, a faulty memory, but my sense is that a lot of the highway is cleaner than in (distant) years past. It seemed particularly so in Norte with plenty of work yet to do in Sur.

So, what say the collective, getting better, worse, or same-o same-o?

David K - 4-23-2011 at 12:10 PM

Gotten much better over the years... Mexico is catching up. In the 60's Americans often threw things out of their car. Remember the Indian with a tear commercial?

Barbarosa - 4-23-2011 at 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Gotten much better over the years... Mexico is catching up.


During the Run, I wondered aloud if they gots a bunch of incarcerated druggies in Norte for hiway cleanup. And less available free labor supply in Sur.

woody with a view - 4-23-2011 at 04:06 PM

when the price of scrap steel, aluminum, etc goes thru the roof, well, need i say more?

at least they still put the city dump over the first hill, without regard to the prevailing winds......

BajaBlanca - 4-23-2011 at 04:09 PM

I think there is really little improvement myself ... highways are filthy :no:

I don't remember the Indian with a tear ????

but I remember the slogan DON'T BE A LITTERBUG. My mom did not allow us to eat or drink in the car - so we never threw anything out the window.

Bajahowodd - 4-23-2011 at 04:29 PM

My personal observation:

1- Historically, the highways of BCS have had less litter than those of BC.

2- The problem appears to ebb and flow. Some trips, it's better; some worse.

One thing that ticks me off, or make that two- I've seen way too many dedicated turnoffs with the barrels where the barrels were stolen. And, I've seen way too many turnoffs where the varrel was there, but people just dumped crap on the ground right next to it. Or, maybe that has something to do with what Woody mentioned, and the scavengers just pawed through the barrel and tossed the stuff they weren't interested in on the ground.

acadist - 4-24-2011 at 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
when the price of scrap steel, aluminum, etc goes thru the roof, well, need i say more?

at least they still put the city dump over the first hill, without regard to the prevailing winds......

I agree, you no longer see the burned out bodies of stripped cars like you used to.

choyero - 4-24-2011 at 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
when the price of scrap steel, aluminum, etc goes thru the roof, well, need i say more?

at least they still put the city dump over the first hill, without regard to the prevailing winds......


X3

there is not a chunk of scrap metal to be found anywhere. even metal that is not scrap is getting scrapped.

If only there was a value for scrap plastic and broken ballenas

mtgoat666 - 4-24-2011 at 07:33 AM

there are 2 types of countries in the world: those with trash all over, and those without trash all over. mexico has yet to join the latter group.

my personal feling is that there should be 2 levels of membership in UN: litterbugs/polluters, and people that treat their sewage and dispose of their trash. the tidy, fastidious people should have 2 votes for every vote allotted to pigs.

monoloco - 4-24-2011 at 08:27 AM

I don't know about the rest of Baja, but from La Paz to Cabo, crews pick up the litter a couple of times a year. We also have the Can Man who has been walking that highway for years picking up cans, I'm pretty sure he's made enough money to buy a house in the Pedregal by now.

Barbarosa - 4-24-2011 at 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco
I don't know about the rest of Baja, but from La Paz to Cabo, crews pick up the litter a couple of times a year. We also have the Can Man who has been walking that highway for years picking up cans, I'm pretty sure he's made enough money to buy a house in the Pedregal by now.


Yeah. That area is clean, and can be managed by clean-up crews. There's stretches that are like landfill for wide swaths along long stretches of highway. (Seemed like most were in the northern parts of Sur. Also seemed like Norte has had *major* cleanup of such stretches in recent years.)

David K - 4-24-2011 at 09:32 AM

If anyone is interseted in the cleanest country, see Switzerland... A group of us went out one evening on a mission to see if we could find any trash on the streets of Lucerne... nope, not even a cigarette butt!

BajaBlanca - 4-24-2011 at 03:22 PM

we need a proper landfill here in la bocana. if anyone has any ideas on how to go about getting permits (EIR and all the others), PLEASE enlighten me.

Phil S - 4-24-2011 at 04:08 PM

I remember some years ago asking a local Mexican friend why there was so many plastic bags hanging from cacti & trees. He responds, "because there is no more room on the ground"! ! ! ! :lol:

krafty - 4-24-2011 at 04:21 PM

See alot of crews lately cleaning up around Rosarito, cutting grass, and laying stone. Now if they would only tackle the graffiti

BajaBlanca - 4-24-2011 at 05:49 PM

Phil S - that really is funny !!!!

woody with a view - 4-24-2011 at 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
we need a proper landfill here in la bocana. if anyone has any ideas on how to go about getting permits (EIR and all the others), PLEASE enlighten me.


landfill implies someone will dig a big hole, and slowly massage the trash into the hole until it's full.

there's gotta be a way.....

BajaBlanca - 4-24-2011 at 05:57 PM

hi Woody - because we are in the biosphere, it is a touchy issue and I really want to do it "right" ... I have asked every single human who might have an answer who has come thru our house ... to no avail ... yet.