Does anyone know of a good and honest (that could be a stretch) Notario (Notary) must be Mexican, in Loreto ?CortezBlue - 5-5-2011 at 07:50 AM
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[Edited on 5-5-2011 by CortezBlue]drarroyo - 5-5-2011 at 07:59 AM
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Does anyone know of a good and honest (that could be a stretch) Notario (Notary) must be Mexican, in Loreto ?
do you have ANY clue the responsibility a Notario must ....
oh never mindPuckdrop - 5-5-2011 at 08:03 AM
Yup ! That's what scares medrarroyo - 5-5-2011 at 08:18 AM
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Yup ! That's what scares me
you'll go far
suerteDENNIS - 5-5-2011 at 11:47 AM
I always thought that a Mexico Notario's stock in trade was honesty. Isn't verification his/her job?
Or...am I being naive.tiotomasbcs - 5-5-2011 at 12:54 PM
There was a similar Posting about 2/3 months ago. People also responded more seriously, too! At that time I mentioned Castro Castro #7 in La Paz.
Others mentioned Izquierdo, LP. Try Search. Suerte. TioJ.P. - 5-5-2011 at 12:54 PM
It never ceases to amaze me when someone ask the question, looking for honest ,mair doctor, notery and on and on. Makes me think the person asking may
be less than honest.toneart - 5-5-2011 at 01:34 PM
I could be mistaken, but aren't you restricted to using a Notario in the county seat that has jurisdiction where your real estate exists? For example:
The Notario for Mulege is in Santa Rosalia.
Notarios are politically appointed and come from prominent families. There is little accountability. Having said that, they really know their field
well. They are comparable to a real estate lawyer. They can make things happen for you.
There are lots of pitfalls to negotiating a successful real estate transaction. I have not personally experienced a Notario being the weak or crocked
link. Your best protection though, is to do your homework well and come in armed with solid information.Puckdrop - 5-5-2011 at 02:18 PM
Hey J.P. newbie, No I didn't just fall off the turnip wagon, and no I'm not less than honest. This is just an honest question. Maybe you don't get
that Just throwing the question out there, that perhaps some one has just had a very good experience with one in the Loreto area.
Sorry for asking!Puckdrop - 5-5-2011 at 02:20 PM
OH and don't worry J.P. I did get a U2U from an honest person already with some very honest leadsJ.P. - 5-5-2011 at 04:00 PM
GREAT, It was one of those things that just wrinkle me when someone referes or inquries about a local they most always add the Honesty thing. It
would lead one to think most locals are in someway dishonest.Skeet/Loreto - 5-5-2011 at 04:13 PM
Lic Miguel Izquierdo yv.
Tel/fax 612 123-1844
I have used Miguel for nealy 20 years. Never any problems he could not solve Try Him and use my Name as reference
Skeeter805gregg - 5-12-2011 at 06:59 PM
Just depends on how much you can bribe.rob - 5-13-2011 at 08:09 AM
JP - after 12 years in Mexico, several scrapes with the (civil) law and as a lawyer myself - I thought the question TOTALLY appropriate. Any thinking
person would seek the counsel of his/her peers as part of a decision-making process.
Of course, if you DO get shafted just Google the State Bar Association and file a complaint.J.P. - 5-13-2011 at 09:22 AM
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JP - after 12 years in Mexico, several scrapes with the (civil) law and as a lawyer myself - I thought the question TOTALLY appropriate. Any thinking
person would seek the counsel of his/her peers as part of a decision-making process.
Of course, if you DO get shafted just Google the State Bar Association and file a complaint.
I am new to this site not new to the world or BAJA. and have been around Laywers and people in the buisness for a good part of my life I am fully
aware of the honesty factor or better yet the lack of honesty in the trade. Have never been shafted in all my years in baja.MitchMan - 5-13-2011 at 10:09 AM
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At that time I mentioned Castro Castro #7 in La Paz.
I had just the opposite experience with him. Not good. Not commenting on the honesty factor, just not very impressed with his competency at all. I
had to school him on the law of agency, and I'm not any attorney. He didn't earn his fee at all.
Notarios have a license to steal, and they use it that way. Now that I think of it, so do US attornies at over $300+ per hour. But at least the use
of US attornies is not mandated for every little tiny aspect of legal administration in the USA as it is in Mexico... and that is a BIG positive
difference for US citizens.
Even ramuma53 said that notarios do not do their jobs when it comes to verifying the chain of title in a real estate buy/sell transaction, which they
are expressly charged with doing. If they did do their job, there wouldn't be nearly the problems with Mexican real estate title problems that exist
today.
[Edited on 5-13-2011 by MitchMan]J.P. - 5-13-2011 at 10:26 AM
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If they did do their job, there wouldn't be nearly the problems with Mexican real estate title problems that exist today.
There in lies the problem if there was a way to verify the chain of title it would be great , but title to property can be a very elesuvive thing and
most times never verified to a absolute ceartiny.
flyfishinPam - 5-13-2011 at 10:47 AM
Use Skeet's recommendation, the best in the state, I have used him as well.
I did notice a new notario in Loreto whre the state finanzas office used to be (corner of Juarez and Davis), although I do not know this person and
have no experience with them I would use them over the other one in town #19.
You can use any notario in the state that you choose, does not have to be one in Loreto.MitchMan - 5-13-2011 at 11:02 AM
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There in lies the problem if there was a way to verify the chain of title it would be great , but title to property can be a very elesuvive thing and
most times never verified to a absolute ceartiny.
According to ramuma53, the issue is not in the difficulty in verifying title, nor that verifying title is illusive, but in not researching and listing
the entire chain of title that actually exists. Also, the problem is with the buyers who don't fully research the title. Also, the problem is with
notarios not doing the full title search and not disallowing the progress of a sale of property on the basis of the seller not having good title based
on the notario's complete search of the title chain, as is their total responsibility.
Since this is the case, the probelm has been with those who claim to have good title when they don't, successfully enter transactions to sell the
property that they do not have good title to (the success and completion of the transaction directly related to the notario not stopping said
transaction due to insufficient title in the seller), bogus sellers/ostensible owners thereby collecting the sale proceeds, and then leaving. The
result is a new ostensible owner who has the same insufficient title that the ostensible owner/seller just sold him. Thereby, leaving such new
ostensible owner vulnerable to challenge by a party that does in fact have legitimate title.
When you analyze the situation, the buck should have stopped at the desk of every notario who has officiated sales transactions and title transfers,
but it didn't and it hasn't and it doesn't. It is well acknowledged that notarios know their stuff, but they are not doing their stuff, they just get
paid for not doing their stuff.
