BajaNomad - the days of cheap mexican avgas are over

the days of cheap mexican avgas are over

capt. mike - 5-24-2011 at 05:31 AM

Mexican gov't just raised prices across the board at SEANAM facilities and the private ports had already been charging more. What had been $3.50 avg around has now gone to $6 plus a gallon for 100 LL.
one report BPI has CSL at $7.50 a gal.

we are at $5.50 at KHII, about the same at KDVT.

pilots - what's the price at your base?
and what have you paid in baja lately??

Floatflyer - 5-24-2011 at 06:40 AM

More accurately, "cheapER". Hasn't been cheap in years.

[Edited on 5-24-2011 by Floatflyer]

cheap gas ?

mulege marv - 5-24-2011 at 06:58 AM

yesterday i went to the pemex south of town (mulege) to fill up my boat which was totally empty. my boat has a 105 gallon tank, large boat, well when all was said and done the guy actually, and i dont know how, managed to get 125 gallons (475 liters) in it, paying for 20 gallons of gas i didnt get , what is one to do ? :fire:

[Edited on 5-24-2011 by mulege marv]

bufeo - 5-24-2011 at 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by capt. mike...pilots - what's the price at your base?...

Not a pilot, Mike, but you know I am a "frequent flyer".

Local (GDG)
100LL Jet A
SS $5.35 $4.75
Updated 06-May-2011

Allen R

[Edited on 5-24-2011 by bufeo]

Lauriboats - 5-24-2011 at 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by mulege marv
yesterday i went to the pemex south of town (mulege) to fill up my boat which was totally empty. my boat has a 105 gallon tank, large boat, well when all was said and done the guy actually, and i dont know how, managed to get 125 gallons (475 liters) in it, paying for 20 gallons of gas i didnt get , what is one to do ? :fire:

[Edited on 5-24-2011 by mulege marv]

My husband has always said that Pemex gets us for around 20% extra, we quit doing the math, it is just to upsetting.

tripledigitken - 5-24-2011 at 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by Lauriboats

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[Edited on 5-24-2011 by mulege marv]

My husband has always said that Pemex gets us for around 20% extra, we quit doing the math, it is just to upsetting.

How is the Pemex in town? I have noticed many more locals shop there, which is usually a good indicator.

Ken

capt. mike - 5-24-2011 at 12:51 PM

Ken - my old panga guide Alex used to tell me that the pemex rips everyone off - in his own words, "even us Mexicans!" and followed it with - "what can you do - nada..."

he just accepted it as a fact of doing biz.
that SUCKS.

happens at mexican airports too but the worst offender is MMSF where they have gauges set to 10% at least short on qty shown.

Marv - i'd be peeED too.

give him a jerry can marked for 6 gals us and fill it - it will take 7-8 everytime...

Allen - $5.35 is pretty good deal these days... but ouch!! SDL is like $6.50 but they rip everyone... too gucci for me.

jenny.navarrette - 5-24-2011 at 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by capt. mike
happens at mexican airports too but the worst offender is MMSF where they have gauges set to 10% at least short on qty shown.

MMSF is where Carlos Fiesta last filled-up in Mexico before he died in the Newport back bay after crashing from fuel exhaustion. He only put in 20 gallons in Calexico when he cleared customs. He probably thought he had more fuel than he did because he paid for it and had a receipt.

Mexicans probably killed him and his passengers, but it won't show up as a tourist death in Mexico.

O.G. - 5-24-2011 at 01:20 PM

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pilots - what's the price at your base?
and what have you paid in baja lately??

$6.04/gal in Ensenada yesterday (MMES) using 11.10 to 1 conversion rate.

shari - 5-24-2011 at 01:52 PM

well so much for a reasonable price to fly to Asuncion with the new commercial carrier(Aerocommander 500B..7 passenger plane). I called and asked and the price last week was 3,500 pesos round trip from Ensenada to Asuncion on thursdays .....but today they are updating the price to reflect the increase in av fuel prices...darn.

bufeo - 5-24-2011 at 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by capt. mike...Allen - $5.35 is pretty good deal these days... but ouch!! SDL is like $6.50 but they rip everyone... too gucci for me.

Talk about "Gucci". SUN is $7.67 for 100LL and $7.75 for JetA. That's "Gucci, gucci, goo!"

Allen R.

capt. mike - 5-25-2011 at 05:23 AM

well as long as auto gas continues to climb commensurately private flying still is a good deal.

i can slog along at 70 mph on the highway getting maybe 20 mpg at $3.75 a gal....
or whisk along at 180 mph straight line getting 13 mpg at $5.25 a gal.
choice is easy.
but if i was a comm'l carrier req'd to make a profit - yikes! the ticket costs would go volcanic.

Shari - word on BPI is that some mexican GA is giving push back, this is serious sticker shock to them.
And Pemex is planning at least one new refinery, 1st in 30 years. they need to produce their own 100 LL - now they import it all from USA.

shari - 5-25-2011 at 09:44 AM

sheesh....just when things were looking up here and we get reasonable air travel carrier into the coastal villages...no way people will pay more and the servce will disappear most likely.

Vince - 5-25-2011 at 04:54 PM

Capt. Mike- At Brown Field, KSDM, it is $5.59/gal today, but they just ran out and they said the new shipment coming in tomorrow might be lower. No wonder they raised the price if it all comes from USA (in Baja). Took a trip to Mulege a few weeks ago and topped of at Serenedad with autogas which worked just as perfect. The 0-470 (C182L) didn't know the difference.

capt. mike - 5-25-2011 at 06:56 PM

way to go Vince that's cool that your connie likes magna.

my lyc doesn't so much but if i had to i'd fill the sucker and fly low like 1000' above sea level and get home!!