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A Funeral Today in Rosarito

Gypsy Jan - 6-3-2011 at 05:06 PM

We were doing the normal shopping in town when we got mixed into a funeral procession.

There must have been one hundred vehicles. The lead vehicle was a semi with a low boy. The flower-bedecked coffin was on the trailer. A black limo followed next, then several tractors without trailers and then the other cars.

I guess he was a truck driver.

The funny thing was that they didn't turn on the road to the main cemetery in Rosarito; they continued to roll on down the road, past the Rosarito Beach Hotel, traveling on south on Popotla Blvd. (the Free Road) to an unknown point south.

I guess he was a long-haul truck driver.

[Edited on 6-4-2011 by Gypsy Jan]

DENNIS - 6-3-2011 at 05:30 PM

I'll keep an eye out for them coming by here.

woody with a view - 6-3-2011 at 06:23 PM

that used to be a beautiful strech of coastline, before the build up. maybe dude wanted to take one last look at the sea, and wave to the 100 foot Jesus......

:saint:

jenny.navarrette - 6-3-2011 at 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
We were doing the normal shopping in town when we got mixed into a funeral procession.

What you saw was the funeral procession for a man named José María Acosta Vázquez, who died Wednesday of a heart attack at a party salon right next door to the Rosarito Red Cross. The mayor of Rosarito, Javier Robles Aguirre, was at the event and personally went next door to the Red Cross to get them to come attend to the poor man because they refused to respond to the call for medical help.

Here is a link to a video interview of the mayor where he rips the Rosarito Red Cross a new burro. While it is in Spanish, you can get the idea. You can see in the video the mayor coming back from the Red Cross with a paramedic in tow. The mayor says in the video he is going to withdraw all of Rosarito's support for the Red Cross. He mentions "mal servicio" (bad service) about a dozen times. The Red Cross later fired 5 people at the Rosarito Red Cross hospital. Probably some of those friendly, caring Mexicans you are always talking about here.

http://youtu.be/xJxtESTrSUw

OK, Jenny, Point Taken

Gypsy Jan - 6-4-2011 at 07:00 PM

I am aware that there are bad, indifferent, amoral and otherwise ethically challenged people in this world.

But, I have no platform to criticize the responses of the members of a culture that I live amongst, but where I am not a native.

That being said, I am a firm believer and supporter of the good ones and I enjoy reporting the stories from my direct experience.

My condolences to the family; it is a shame that he didn't receive prompt and proper care. Maybe changes for the good will be made because of this.

With respect, GJ

jenny.navarrette - 6-4-2011 at 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
But, I have no platform to criticize the responses of the members of a culture that I live amongst, but where I am not a native.

Well, Jan, you are coming around. There are good and bad people everywhere. But, you do not have to be a native to understand the Mexican culture, you only have to be perceptive. However, you do have to live IN the culture, and not be constantly on the outside looking in. This requires you speak Spanish and converse with Mexicans as your peers, not as your house servants and waiters. You'll find out what they really think when they are not on guard and having to speak to you in English. You will be very surprised. There are some very significant differences in Mexican concepts of how society operates and how people relate to each other. I'm not saying it's bad, just different.

It's sure beats touting $10 pizzas in Rosarito.

bajalera - 6-4-2011 at 10:18 PM

Seems to me that Jan isn't just "coming around"--she's been there for quite some time.

Bajafun777 - 6-5-2011 at 09:20 AM

Gypsy Jan, We saw the funeral procession too as we were by the Rosarito Beach Hotel area at the time it passed. Appears that the individual was loved and cared for besides being missed in their loss. Our prayers to the family of this loss, as funerals are always hard for families.
Just met Gypsy Jan and her husband at Splash this past Saturday. Very nice and informed people involved in numerous areas of the communities they live within. It is not my place to defend Gypsy Jan, as I know in meeting her she would not want me to do so. However, we do get people on this site that make judgements or assume things that they are really off base on regarding their personal attacks on others here. Thus, some people need to temper their personal attacks towards others here and that does not mean that people cannot agree to disagree!
Gypsy Jan again my wife and I enjoyed our meeting and sharing of Baja travels and interest with your husband and you. You both do a lot for the community in which you live and again it is not for me to disclose but to just says Thank You for your efforts in helping others. The world becomes a better place due to people like you and your husband. Take Care & Travel Safe----"No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777

JoeJustJoe - 6-5-2011 at 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
I am aware that there are bad, indifferent, amoral and otherwise ethically challenged people in this world.

But, I have no platform to criticize the responses of the members of a culture that I live amongst, but where I am not a native.

That being said, I am a firm believer and supporter of the good ones and I enjoy reporting the stories from my direct experience.

My condolences to the family; it is a shame that he didn't receive prompt and proper care. Maybe changes for the good will be made because of this.

With respect, GJ

Jan I really like your positive attitude towards the wonderful good people of Mexico, and well it's true that Mexico has their share of bad people just like any other race or ethic heritage.

I just think it's rather sad that some people would use this terrible incident at the Rosarito Beach Hotel and the "Red Cross' employee to bring out their paint brush and paint the whole country of Mexico of being corrupt and then also paint the Mexican people as uncaring.

This looks to be an isolated incident and the uncaring jerk Red Cross employee and a few others "Red Cross" employees were fired. If anything this looks to be a problem with employee selection, training, and jaded attitude.

The fact is incidences like this happens from time to time in the US with our emergency personnel especially the 911 dispatchers.
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Here are just two examples:

Suit filed over boy's ignored 911 call

A wrongful death lawsuit was filed Monday on behalf of a 6-year-old Michigan boy whose mother died after he called 911 only to be scolded by an emergency operator for playing on the phone.

Attorney Geoffrey Fieger said the family of Sherrill Lynn Turner, Robert Turner's mother, is seeking $1 million in damages from the city of Detroit.

The suit names two unidentified dispatchers. Fieger said the city is not named directly as a defendant because cities are immune from suit in Michigan but are liable for the conduct of their employees.
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They didn't even fire this jerk!

Paramedic who refused to help a man with a broken back on his lunch break is let off

A paramedic who refused to help a man with a broken back because he was on his lunch break escaped any punishment yesterday.

The patient had been on a Boxing Day fox hunt when he injured his back in a Land Rover. His friends had tried to get him out the car but he was in such pain it was impossible to move him.

When asked to help, Chambers said: 'Sorry - I'm off duty.'

The man remained in agony for 40 minutes as he waited for another ambulance to come from 15 miles away. He had to be given morphine- which Chambers had in his vehicle.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1156762/Paramedic-re...

jenny.navarrette - 6-5-2011 at 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
The patient had been on a Boxing Day fox hunt when he injured his back in a Land Rover.

Has the thought ever crossed your feeble mind that a Boxing Day fox hunt is a British holiday? Maybe the fact that the article was published in the UK Daily Mail might have been a giveaway?

You keep on Goggling, menso, but try to work on your dyslexia.

Speaking of .......

bajaguy - 6-5-2011 at 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
You keep on Goggling, menso, but try to work on your dyslexia.

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Goggling or Googling???????......there is a difference :lol:

BajaGringo - 6-5-2011 at 12:28 PM

:lol:

jenny.navarrette - 6-5-2011 at 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
Goggling or Googling???????......there is a difference :lol:

Same difference as the murder rates between Las Vegas and Tijuana?

bajaguy - 6-5-2011 at 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
Same difference as the murder rates between Las Vegas and Tijuana?

Actually, I really don't care about the "murder" or homicide rates between Las Vegas and Tijuana..........I care about the homicides of US/Canadian tourists or ex-pats in Baja......

It is unfortunate that the reported homicides of US/Canadian/Mexican citizens in Las Vegas or Baja do not take into account the victim's criminal backgrounds or activities.............a little more info would be beneficial.

Oh, I don't visit or live in Las Vegas.....and i don't live in or visit Tijuana

JoeJustJoe - 6-5-2011 at 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by jenny.navarrette

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
The patient had been on a Boxing Day fox hunt when he injured his back in a Land Rover.

How is this for " Goggling" Jenny? I could "Google" all day articles where emergency responders in the US failed to respond to medical emergencies where a citizen was in need of emergency medical help, but didn't even get the basic medical help in their community.

But it's doubtful I could find anybody taking out their broad brush and painting the whole American culture as corrupt and uncaring just because one or two idiot New York city paramedics decided their coffee break was more important than helping a pregnant women who collapsed.............only you do that Jenny, but you take aim at Mexico.
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Eutisha Rennix, Unborn Baby Die After Being Ignored By EMTs On Coffee Break

NEW YORK � Two emergency medical technicians accused of refusing to help a pregnant woman who collapsed in the coffee shop where they were taking a break were suspended Monday, and Mayor Michael Bloomberg called their behavior inexcusable.

The Fire Department of New York suspended Jason Green, a six-year veteran, and Melissa Jackson, a four-year veteran, without pay while the Dec. 9 incident is investigated, spokesman Steve Ritea said.

Witnesses, first speaking to The New York Post, said the EMTs told employees at the eatery in downtown Brooklyn to call 911 and then left when they were asked to help Eutisha Revee Rennix, an employee who had collapsed.

An ambulance was called, and Rennix, 25, was taken to Long Island College Hospital, where she died a short time later. Her baby girl was too premature to survive. A message left for Rennix's mother Monday wasn't immediately returned.

Home telephone listings for Jackson and Green weren't unavailable. A call Monday evening to the EMT's union office wasn't immediately returned.

Ritea said that all FDNY members "take an oath to assist others whenever they're in need of emergency medical care. It's their sworn duty."

A union spokesman said Monday that EMTs generally consider their jobs to be a 24-hour kind of thing.

"Our people tend to spring into action whether they're on duty, off duty, whatever they're doing," said Robert Ungar, spokesman for the Uniformed EMTS and Paramedics, FDNY.

The city's EMTs have a "very strong bond with the people of New York City that they serve," he said. "They view themselves as always being on duty."

[Edited on 6-5-2011 by JoeJustJoe]

Dangerous Times and Dangerous Places

MrBillM - 6-5-2011 at 01:15 PM

Reading the Saturday Local Hi-Desert paper, our BIG page one HEADLINE above the fold was about some kid they're looking for in 29 Palms who was standing by the highway throwing rocks at cars.

Once again, the BIG news in the Sheriff's Log was Domestics.

It's a DANGEROUS world out there.

Fortunately, at some distance away.

But, I've still got a 9mm under the front seat.

Just in case.

jenny.navarrette - 6-5-2011 at 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
Two emergency medical technicians accused of refusing to help a pregnant woman who collapsed in the coffee shop where they were taking a break were suspended Monday, and Mayor Michael Bloomberg called their behavior inexcusable.

The Fire Department of New York suspended Jason Green, a six-year veteran, and Melissa Jackson, a four-year veteran, without pay while the Dec. 9 incident is investigated, spokesman Steve Ritea said.

...and now for the results of the investigation. After a one-month investigation the two EMT's were reinstated.

They worked as dispachers in an EMS office several floors above the coffee shop. The had no equipment with them whatsover and they never saw the woman who died.

They said that they were on a scheduled 40-minute break that morning. They met about 9 a.m. at 1 Metro Tech, where they both worked. They were both in uniform. They went into the bagel shop to order.

Once inside, they got in line. Mr. Green said he ordered a jalapeño bagel with salmon and wasabi. Ms. Jackson did not place an order.

Ms. Jackson said a woman whose face she recognized emerged from behind the counter and asked, “Do you know Eutisha?” Ms. Jackson said no.

“So then she said, ‘Well, can you call an ambulance for her?’” The victim had collapese in a back room and was not visibile to customers. Ms. Jackson said. “At that particular time, I took my cellphone out and as I’m dialing my dispatcher, to tell him to place this job in the system, I’m asking her questions.”

Mr. Green said she placed the call to the dispatcher at 9:13 a.m.

Ms. Jackson said that she asked enough questions to ascertain that Ms. Rennix was pregnant and had abdominal pain. “So I’m talking to the dispatcher now, telling him the information that she gave to me,” Ms. Jackson said. “Then, as she’s walking away, I said, ‘Is that all? Is there anything else going wrong?’ And she said, ‘And she has asthma.’ So I told the dispatcher. I said, ‘Difficulty breathing; she has asthma.’ ”

Mr. Green and Ms. Jackson said they were given no sense of urgency at any time inside the store. They said they learned later that the first ambulance, a basic life support unit from Long Island College Hospital, arrived at 9:24 a.m. — 11 minutes after Ms. Jackson said she called. By that time, Ms. Jackson said she was back at her desk; Mr. Green said he was eating his sandwich in a cafeteria inside 1 Metro Tech. A Fire Department ambulance arrived at 9:28 a.m., they said. Mr. Long confirmed the ambulance times.

They acknowledged that they never saw Ms. Rennix, but added that even if someone had led them to her, they did not have the proper medical equipment to treat her.

By the way esse, the victim and the two EMT's are all black. So please don't try to bring in your usual racist crap.

Keep Googling menso, maybe you can find a case in Bosnia where EMT's didn't respond.

vgabndo - 6-5-2011 at 02:28 PM

The idea of being so afraid of the world, or of the place I choose to live, that I couldn't go anywhere without the being prepared to kill someone at a moments notice is so foreign to me as to be from another culture. I so pity anyone whose life is lived under such a dismal shadow. Bill, I compassionately invite you to look a whether your often demonstrated hatred and negativity might be inviting (or creating) the threats you fear.

The Gull - 6-5-2011 at 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by jenny.navarrette
Mr. Green said he ordered a jalapeño bagel with salmon and wasabi.

Mr. Green might like working in Rosarito Beach with those tastebuds.

JoeJustJoe - 6-5-2011 at 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by jenny.navarrette

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“So then she said, ‘Well, can you call an ambulance for her?’” The victim had collapese in a back room and was not visibile to customers. Ms. Jackson said. “At that particular time, I took my cellphone out and as I’m dialing my dispatcher, to tell him to place this job in the system, I’m asking her questions.”

Mr. Green said she placed the call to the dispatcher at 9:13 a.m.

Ms. Jackson said that she asked enough questions to ascertain that Ms. Rennix was pregnant and had abdominal pain. “So I’m talking to the dispatcher now, telling him the information that she gave to me,” Ms. Jackson said. “Then, as she’s walking away, I said, ‘Is that all? Is there anything else going wrong?’ And she said, ‘And she has asthma.’ So I told the dispatcher. I said, ‘Difficulty breathing; she has asthma.’ ”

Mr. Green and Ms. Jackson said they were given no sense of urgency at any time inside the store. They said they learned later that the first ambulance, a basic life support unit from Long Island College Hospital, arrived at 9:24 a.m. — 11 minutes after Ms. Jackson said she called. By that time, Ms. Jackson said she was back at her desk; Mr. Green said he was eating his sandwich in a cafeteria inside 1 Metro Tech. A Fire Department ambulance arrived at 9:28 a.m., they said. Mr. Long confirmed the ambulance times.

They acknowledged that they never saw Ms. Rennix, but added that even if someone had led them to her, they did not have the proper medical equipment to treat her.

By the way esse, the victim and the two EMT's are all black. So please don't try to bring in your usual racist crap.

Keep Googling menso, maybe you can find a case in Bosnia where EMT's didn't respond.

Give me a break Jenny. The victim collapsed in a back room; she had Difficulty breathing; she has asthma; she has abdominal pain, and and she is pregnant. But the two EMT's were't given a sense of urgency! Hell I wonder what clues these two bozo EMTs need to get a sense urgency?

If you ask me it's looks like these two EMTs were too busy worrying about their coffee break and stuffing their face with jalapeño bagels than helping a poor pregnant women that just collapsed in the back room. So what if they didn't have the medical equipment. I seen doctors, nurses, cops, and just regular people try to help accident victims and others in need of medical attention when they were off duty and didn't have any medical equipment at all.

There is no excuse what these two EMTs did or rather didn't do in NY regardless if they had a strong union and were reinstated.

Jenny I knew the victim was black but I didn't know the two EMTs were Black. I thought for sure you would have giving New York, and the EMTs in New York a pass and just put the blame on the two EMTs because they were Black.

Bajahowodd - 6-5-2011 at 03:31 PM

Oy vey.