BajaNomad - Live Music Returns to Tailhunter

Live Music Returns to Tailhunter

Sirena - 6-9-2011 at 01:46 PM

Rodk and Roll is back! Kick off your shoes and come dance under the Palapa with us..

Live at
Jonathan Roldan's
TAILHUNTER
(on the malecon/La Paz, BCS)

LAURA
and
The Baja South Band

Sunday, June 12th, 2011
6:30 pm - 10:00 pm

Bajahowodd - 6-9-2011 at 04:58 PM

Is it just me, or does Tailhunter represent the worst of the "Cabo experience"?

Seems to me that any proliferation of such venues would only help to expedite the demise of La Paz, as we know it.

Have to admit, as a long time traveler, I still enjoy sharing a ceviche and a couple of margaritas at a sidewalk-front table at La Perla, watching the passing parade.

Guess it's generational. :lol:

DENNIS - 6-9-2011 at 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Is it just me, or does Tailhunter represent the worst of the "Cabo experience"?

What's up with the place?

Bajahowodd - 6-9-2011 at 05:22 PM

It's Cabo Wabo, Squid Roe and Giggling Marlin, rolled into one, and on a beautiful malecon.

Sirena - 6-9-2011 at 05:31 PM

Seems like we have a bit of a bad rap around here and not sure why. We have been running pangas around both islands since the mid 90's. Four years ago we took over a derelict old vacant building that had been painted purple, brought the electrical up to code, painted it and threw some fish on the wall. Two years ago we opened the Restaurant/Cantina and we have some of the best local cooks and waiters in town. Jonathan has been writing about the Baja for years and we try and share our passion for the Baja with our clients. I have been fishing the Baja since the 60's and was lucky enough to have learned from one of the best, Neil Kelly (I actually use a his beer batter base for our fish) . Anyway, we are definitely not Cabo... stop by and the first cold one and taco is on me. I love breakfast at La Perla too...

Bajahowodd - 6-9-2011 at 05:35 PM

Geez. As best I can remember, Sirena, you weren't anywhere near La Paz four years ago.

That said, I made no mention of the fishing business. I just have a bit of a problem with the motif and advertising of the Tailhunter restaurant, as it reminds me way too much of what happened in Cabo.

Sirena - 6-9-2011 at 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Geez. As best I can remember, Sirena, you weren't anywhere near La Paz four years ago.

That said, I made no mention of the fishing business. I just have a bit of a problem with the motif and advertising of the Tailhunter restaurant, as it reminds me way too much of what happened in Cabo.

I have been here in La Paz full time since 2006 (after our youngest got into college) and sorry I have missed you. Sorry you do not like the motif... we didn't have alot of money to change the building or layout, mainly just added fish, plants and some tv's so we can get our sports fix... We hardly do any advertising so not sure what you are referring to and I apologize if I offended you. I you can, please stop in and say hello so I can meet you.

Sirena - 6-9-2011 at 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
I better stay out of this one :lol:

you are beyond welcome to come visit any time too... all good. 50's and 60's rock for us old timers on Sunday...

Jillene Roldan..... aka Jilly/Sirena/Tailhuntress...
anything but late for supper

oxxo - 6-9-2011 at 09:56 PM

Can someone explain to me what the word "tailhunter" means. :lol:

gnukid - 6-9-2011 at 10:26 PM

I'm a fisherman and someone who loves the malecon, I expected Tailhunter to be a great place for me to bring visitors and hang with friends. But the food and services are a 3 on a scale 1-10, the sound of course has been horrific for live music, I understand there are issues, but it is possible to create ambient sound.

Considering the venue, the location, the backing it's hard to imagine such a lackluster performance. I wonder why? Most operations are top down, meaning if the boss is cool the people are cool, so I wonder what is wrong with Tailhunter because the panga operation seems to function well.

Of course if you ask a paceno the answer is no comment, if you ask a gringo they say yeah it's fine, but if you ask me, I would say something is really wrong here and has been since day 1. Oh well, apparently restaurant business is hard. But as local it is embarrassing to bring people to tailhunter.

Can I make a suggestion? How about thinking fresh food, fresh supplies and produce for salads, fresh fish, fresh ceviche, fresh sonoran beef, fresh tortilla's, pleasant staff who are interested in La Paz, who speak spanish, invite local bands who understand how to play lightly and use the space-I imagine Laura will be great since the baja south band are great musicians they probably play for free and are trying to help!! Maybe staff should be reminded to be nice to the band!

mtgoat666 - 6-10-2011 at 06:27 AM

"tailhunter" is a bad name. Made me immediately think "tailhook" and a number of other sexist themes.
and your website says "fubar" cantina. wtf?
I don't usually go to La Paz, but if I did, the names would turn me off. your names do sound like crappy cabo bars.

get rid of the ticky-tacky junk decoration, present a classy facade, and pick a name that doesn't sound like b-school frat boy hang out.

bajajazz - 6-10-2011 at 09:15 AM

No one has pointed out that besides being on the Malecon, the abominably-named "Tailhunter" (a tasteless double-entendre if ever there was one) is also in the midst of a residential neighborhood whose homeowners did not appreciate the over-amplified, peace-disturbing crap spewed onto the night air by the last so-called "Blues" group that played there.

"Tailhunter." Really? That kind of "action" belongs in Cabo or better yet, Mazatlan, some worn-out tourist trap where human heads are bowled across the dance floor. La Paz neither needs nor deserves a low-class joint on the Malecon. Although, speaking personally, I'd rather associate with gangsters than electric-band musicians, the former, in my experience, usually having more class than the latter who, because they can't play good, play loud.

"Musicians" who think their instruments need to be amplified to the level of a D-Day barrage are patently unclear on the concept of what music is all about.

My criticism also extends to classical musicians who have gone electric. A recent concert by a guitar duo was ruined because the performers were too cheap (or simply too careless) to hire a producer to run a mixing board. One of the "artists" ghosted so many notes he resembled a poltergeist and perhaps that was a blessing -- at least there was no feedback from the notes he missed.

I anticipate that in the near future two hot growth industries will be hearing aid manufacturers and tatoo removal parlors.

durrelllrobert - 6-10-2011 at 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
"tailhunter" is a bad nameand your website says "fubar" cantina. wtf?

I'm sure that FUBAR refers to some of the customers shown in the Utube video on their website :lol:

:
tailhunter-international.com/tailhunter-bar-and-fubar-cantina.htm

durrelllrobert - 6-10-2011 at 09:32 AM

Lot's of folks on TripAdvisor give it 5 stars including this one that has a travel/cooking show on TV:
“You can not visit La Paz without experience the best restaurant in Mexico, Tailhunter!”
Reviewed June 4, 2011
I coshost a t.v. show with my husband on a major network that goes into over 45 million households so we travel often which means we eat out alot. Oh,did I mention that I have a cooking segment on our show. I know it is not good to judge, but I find myself doing that at restaurants. I always want to eat more than one thing on the menu. So when eating at Tailhunter for the first time we had 6 at our table, and we all ordered somthing differant. Yes, you guessed it so I could sample everyone's plate. Usually I find you could add a little of this, or take away a little of that to improve the entrees. This was not the case. Every bite was cooked to perfection. This was an outstanding dinning experience! Oh, and I also am a "thrify" eater outer if there is such a name. The price and value of our meal was as great as the quality of the food. The staff was friendly and the atmosphere was so relaxing and made you feel right at home. That is very important to me to making a great dinning experience. Our family will return to La Paz if not for anything else but to eat again at Tailhunter! Our favorite by far!!

Visited May 2011

[Edited on 6-10-2011 by durrelllrobert]

mtgoat666 - 6-10-2011 at 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by bajajazz
"Musicians" who think their instruments need to be amplified to the level of a D-Day barrage are patently unclear on the concept of what music is all about.

My criticism also extends to classical musicians who have gone electric.

Crikey! You are a real fuddy duddy.

some electronica and rock and roll is best experienced at highest volume!

but i do agree that loud bars in residential neighborhoods are not a good combo.

mtgoat666 - 6-10-2011 at 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Lot's of folks on TripAdvisor give it 5 stars including this one that has a travel/cooking show on TV:
“You can not visit La Paz without experience the best restaurant in Mexico, Tailhunter!”
Reviewed June 4, 2011
I coshost a t.v. show with my husband on a major network that goes into over 45 million households so we travel often which means we eat out alot. Oh,did I mention that I have a cooking segment on our show.

gots to be careful about trusting tripadvisor reviews. that reviewer has reviewed only one business on tripadvisor, so is obviously the owner or friend/family of owner.

Sirena - 6-10-2011 at 11:52 AM

Thank you all for the feedback. It is appreciated. In our defense I would like to clarify a few misconceptions....
Tailhunter as in fish tail and has been the name of the fleet for years. FUBAR is a pull from the war and both have double meanings our fishermen have always gotten a kick out of it. It is who we are so that became the name of the restaurant.

All our staff our local pacenos but one. From our first hire , Gabi from the old Las Arenas hotel, we have tried to fill out place with friendly folks that represent the what we think is La Paz's best assets, her people.

We have a dedicated staff member that shops daily to ensure that we have the freshest ingredients and flavors.. from our chips and salsas to our ceviche, poke and seafood. Home made daily or made to order.

Laura is not performing a "sympathy gig" for us. We hire only local bands and pay them fairly. To a person they have all remarked that they love playing for and with us. Great sound, great vibe, great folks. We are a multi level building and you don't have to be in the bands back pocket if you do not want to be.

We are commercially zoned and have always monitored our noise levels to make sure that we are within legal ranges. Still some neighbors have been impacted. We voluntarily stopped the live music, made some structural changes that were recommended by the city engineer. We have asked all neighbors to come meet with us as we try and plan a limited live music schedule.

Our decor is mainly plants and fish mounts. The mounts are pieces done by Rocky Markham at World Wide fish mounts (he has pieces in the Smithsonian, Scripps etc).

Trip Advisor, as with message boards etc, is what it is. We have been rated number one for customer satisfaction in La Paz for almost two years. It is not a five star rating scale. Ultimately it is just a tool to gather information and ultimately make the call yourself.

For those of you we have shamed and offended, I apologize. I hope we get the opportunity to change your impression/opinion. If not I understand.

Open invitation to all here to stop by and ask for us. Mention you are a Nomad and I look forward to meeting you and treating you to some of our food and drink and hospitality...

drarroyo - 6-10-2011 at 12:15 PM

Stop calling it 'the baja' and I'll definitely stop by!! :lol:

Re Gnukid: he's a special case. Trust me.
Wish you success in the future.
ps as a 30yr long guitarist ... I can assure you that music critics as evidenced in this thread, are true frustrated wannabe musicians.
paz

DENNIS - 6-10-2011 at 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by drarroyo
long guitarist ...

Never heard of one of those. Are they hard to play?

DENNIS - 6-10-2011 at 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Sirena
For those of you we have shamed

That's a little heavy, I believe. These are Nomads....not seminarians.
Turn up the volume. :lol:

oxxo - 6-10-2011 at 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by Sirena
Tailhunter as in fish tail and has been the name of the fleet for years. FUBAR is a pull from the war and both have double meanings our fishermen have always gotten a kick out of it. It is who we are so that became the name of the restaurant.

And therein lies the problem for me. I generally avoid places that are high on the "cool" factor. Tailhunter reminds me of the Happy Endings Bar and Pink Kitty strip club in San Lucas. All have those sexual double entendre names that put them high on the list for those that are cool (wink, wink). I doubt that I will ever patronize any of them.

And Trip Advisor rates Tailhunter #1 in La Paz? You gotta be kidding when you go up against Las Tres Virgines and some of the other fine restaurants in La Paz! Goes to show what Trip Advisor reviewers know about anything. I also note you have been doing a lot of self promoting on the various Baja chat lists. It makes the Trip Advisor reviews highly suspect to me.

drarroyo - 6-10-2011 at 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by drarroyo
long guitarist ...

Never heard of one of those. Are they hard to play?

you know what they say about guys with long guitars.

Melondeverdad - 6-10-2011 at 02:13 PM

Don't let the miserable old b*st*rds on this board get you down Jilly. I've brought many visitors to La Paz to Tailhunter & they all have loved it. The malecon has both a Burger King and an APplebees, and these jerks think Tailhunter is the problem? :rolleyes:

Have any of you curmudgeons actually visited the places you disparage so readily on here? Oxxo, hate to break it to you, but the Pink Kitty in Cabo is not a strip club ... It is an overpriced ' luxury' bottle-service nightclub.

DENNIS - 6-10-2011 at 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Melondeverdad
luxury' bottle-service nightclub.

Forgive my question, but what is that?

mtgoat666 - 6-10-2011 at 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Melondeverdad
luxury' bottle-service nightclub.

Forgive my question, but what is that?

dennis,
you need to go to a hipper establishment to learn about bottle service. the places you live in are unlikely to have bottle service :lol:

DENNIS - 6-10-2011 at 03:11 PM

OK....You tell me what it is then.

mtgoat666 - 6-10-2011 at 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
OK....You tell me what it is then.

it usually involves reserved table in "VIP" section (that type of establishment), and purchase of liquor by the bottle (instead of by the drink). for example, your hostess brings you a bottle of premium vodka and mixers, and you party on dude!

it's usually expensive, because it's a frivolous thing limited to hip, expensive nightclubs.

it's all pretty silly.

DENNIS - 6-10-2011 at 03:32 PM

Oh yeah...I like that. If I don't have any friends, can I go in alone or do I still have to drink in my car?

oxxo - 6-10-2011 at 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Melondeverdad
luxury' bottle-service nightclub.

Forgive my question, but what is that?

It is where the "hostesses" at the Pink Kitty do special tricks with a bottle. (What a way to ruin a good Pacifico!) No. I haven't seen it but know those who have. I've been told the "luxury bottle-service" hostesses are some of the highest priced in all of Caboland. :wow:

[Edited on 6-10-2011 by oxxo]

mtgoat666 - 6-10-2011 at 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Oh yeah...I like that. If I don't have any friends, can I go in alone or do I still have to drink in my car?

you can buy company. money can buy you love!

DENNIS - 6-10-2011 at 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by oxxo
It is where the "hostesses" at the Pink Kitty do special tricks with a bottle.

Whoa...Now I'm learnin' something. What kind of tricks? Do they juggle them like bowling pins or something like that? :?:

jureal - 6-10-2011 at 04:50 PM

Some of the folks here are rather brutal today.

I know Jonathan but have not met Jilly yet.

If I ever go to La Paz, I will certainly visit them there. Might even have time to fish too.

I don't know how you stay so cool with all this heat here. You go girl!

DENNIS - 6-10-2011 at 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by jureal
I don't know how you stay so cool with all this heat here. You go girl!

Yeah....she's calm under fire, for sure. If it were me, I'd have taken a hammer to my monitor a long time ago. :lol:

oxxo - 6-10-2011 at 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by oxxo
It is where the "hostesses" at the Pink Kitty do special tricks with a bottle.

What kind of tricks? Do they juggle them like bowling pins or something like that? :?:

Yeah, "something like that." Gawd, now Dennis will be making a beeline for the Pink Kitty!

Leave your wallet at home, amigo. :tumble:

DENNIS - 6-10-2011 at 07:40 PM

Thanks for the warning. :biggrin:

gnukid - 6-11-2011 at 10:18 AM

This shouldn't be hard:

A 2-3 person band can play in a open space without blasting out the diners and neighbors. Turn the sound system to volume 1 and do not have the speakers facing the neighbors, baffles or hanging cloth can help too.

A restaurant should be able to serve fresh fish and seafood prepared daily, fresh salads from local produce, Sonoran steak and hamburgers.

Staff should be able to speak spanish as well as some english, staff should understand that patron's satisfaction is the key to success. After you succeed, perhaps then is the time to become arrogant jerks, not before.

Items that should not be served:

frozen in box coconut battered shrimp shipped from walmart
frozen salads
frenchfries, onionrings from a frozen bag

Why is this so difficult at Tailhunter and why has such nonsense been going on for so long? How is it possible that you call yourself top notch yet the food is the lowest grade possible?

Who is making the decisions? Why not share these notes with them and be honest that the problem is probably top level management interfering with daily employees? Is it Jilly/Sirena? Whoever is making decisions should simply take a class in restaurant services and keep working at it, experiment, try harder, respect the customer and the culture. The restaurant is a debacle, it's among the worst restaurants I have ever been to in terms of food and service. Yet it claims to be this awesome amazing fish place? If it were a dive bar restaurant that said we serve TV dinners perhaps my expectations would be more line with what you deliver and the whole thing wouldn't be so offensive.

DENNIS - 6-11-2011 at 10:53 AM

Jeeeezo, Paul....you don't even get this agitated when someone breaks into your house. There must be something to what you say.

Oh well.....the Nomad board is known for harsh honesty. Thanks for yours.

Sirena - 6-11-2011 at 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by gnukid
This shouldn't be hard:

A 2-3 person band can play in a open space without blasting out the diners and neighbors. Turn the sound system to volume 1 and do not have the speakers facing the neighbors, baffles or hanging cloth can help too.

A restaurant should be able to serve fresh fish and seafood prepared daily, fresh salads from local produce, Sonoran steak and hamburgers.

Staff should be able to speak spanish as well as some english, staff should understand that patron's satisfaction is the key to success. After you succeed, perhaps then is the time to become arrogant jerks, not before.

Items that should not be served:

frozen in box coconut battered shrimp shipped from walmart
frozen salads
frenchfries, onionrings from a frozen bag

Why is this so difficult at Tailhunter and why has such nonsense been going on for so long? How is it possible that you call yourself top notch yet the food is the lowest grade possible?

Who is making the decisions? Why not share these notes with them and be honest that the problem is probably top level management interfering with daily employees? Is it Jilly/Sirena? Whoever is making decisions should simply take a class in restaurant services and keep working at it, experiment, try harder, respect the customer and the culture. The restaurant is a debacle, it's among the worst restaurants I have ever been to in terms of food and service. Yet it claims to be this awesome amazing fish place? If it were a dive bar restaurant that said we serve TV dinners perhaps my expectations would be more line with what you deliver and the whole thing wouldn't be so offensive.

Wow...... I do not know where to begin. Not sure what else I can say. This seems personal and more than maybe a bad experience here. Our very existance seems to really be a problem. I invite you to come in and tour the restaurant (come see the kitchen too and check out the freezers and what is not in them). Speak to our staff (all from the Baja and all speak Spanish as their first language and nice smiley folks). Take a look at our music area, how are speakers are situated and the improvements we have done.

We are a Mom and Pop place. This is our baby and we take very much pride in all that we do. Jonathan and I make all the decisions and are responsible for all the successes and failures. The buck stops here so to speak and your heat/harshness is therefore mine to take. Is this a perfect place? No, but we do our best to correct any mistakes and problems quickly and effectively. The most important thing for us was to create a comfortable space, with great fresh local food. We are not a white linen restaurant or in competition with Palermos, Azul Marino, Tres Virgenes. Apples and oranges. Our business is up 60% over last year so there are many here that like what we do. Besides the couple months that we spend in the states in the winter doing fishing shows and seminars promoting our Fleet and the city/Baja in General we are here all time. We just celebrated our second anniversary for the restaurant. More and more Pacenos are becoming regular guests.

Come follow our buyer around the public markets in the morning. Come be our guest Sunday night for dinner and dancing. That is all I can really ask. You must have had something horrible happen to you and for that I am sincerely sorry. I'll even give you a hug if you want..
Hope to see you and repair this somehow...

Melondeverdad - 6-11-2011 at 01:23 PM

There's no harsh honesty from Gnukid here - just harsh BS.

His 'review' is totally bogus if you ask me - it's pretty obvious he has some sort of personal vendetta against the owners. Maybe it's just envy?

Don't believe for a second Tailhunter is serving frozen food from Walmart, and certainly the staff is no worse than any other restaurant in La Paz.

DENNIS - 6-11-2011 at 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by Melondeverdad
and certainly the staff is no worse than any other restaurant in La Paz.

Doesn't seem like much of a compliment to me. Does last place get first prize?
The sooner you and everybody else stops stirring the pot, the sooner all this will go away, so if Jilly is a friend of yours, why don't you give it a rest for a while.

oxxo - 6-11-2011 at 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by SirenaWe are a Mom and Pop place. This is our baby and we take very much pride in all that we do. Jonathan and I make all the decisions and are responsible for all the successes and failures. The buck stops here so to speak and your heat/harshness is therefore mine to take.

Have you or your personal friends ever padded the reviews on Trip Advisor or similar website? If you are "not perfect", how did you get to be the top rated restaurant in La Paz? Do you think you should be the top rated restaurant in La Paz? Do you think the quality of your food, the presentation, and the ambiance should be rated higher than the restaurants you just mentioned?

Oh, nevermind.

Sirena - 6-11-2011 at 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by oxxo

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No we do not, if you knew us you would realize just how laughable that is. Nor do we have trolls on message boards. Our reputations are very well known to many. Nobody is perfect, including us, but we are honest.

Questions asked by the Trip Advisor system is more a customer satisfaction system. (check it out) It is not a five star system, rating more is how well do you do what it is that you do. A hot dog stand can do better that a place serving 120 bottles of wine and kobe beef if they satisfy their customer better.

Melondeverdad - 6-11-2011 at 03:23 PM

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No we do not, if you knew us you would realize just how laughable that is. Nor do we have trolls on message boards.

Ummm Jilly, if by troll you mean me, well maybe I can see the arrogance Gnukid was referring to. I'm apparently the only one on this board that has actually eaten at your establishment and enjoyed it and I'm a troll? :rolleyes:

By the way, you must be doing something that is p*ssing people off, because the last time I was in town a taxi driver told me you were no longer in business.

Sirena - 6-11-2011 at 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by Melondeverdad
No we do not, if you knew us you would realize just how laughable that is. Nor do we have trolls on message boards.

By the way, you must be doing something that is p*ssing people off, because the last time I was in town a taxi driver told me you were no longer in business.

No, no, didn't mean you. A troll is usually someone being prompted by someone to post a certain way. And some of the drivers are mad at us because we don't like paying mordida to the drivers to bring peeps here. Captive audience and not fair to the tourists. Just one of the unions that I know of.....

mtgoat666 - 6-11-2011 at 03:59 PM

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newkid:
you are a real piece of work. would be illustrative if you told people how you support yourself, where your money came from. while the restaurant deserves reviews (don't they all), it deserves reviewers that understand what it takes to work for a living.

[Edited on 6-11-2011 by mtgoat666]

DENNIS - 6-11-2011 at 04:03 PM

This thread is disintegrating.

wessongroup - 6-11-2011 at 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Oh yeah...I like that. If I don't have any friends, can I go in alone or do I still have to drink in my car?

HOLY CRAP

longlegsinlapaz - 6-11-2011 at 07:44 PM

Sirena posts telling local people that "Laura & The Baja South Band" will be playing at Tailhunter Sunday evening.

The first response disses the name of the establishment & the business, equates Tailhunters to “the worst of Cabo experience” & predicts La Paz’s demise because of this one establishment. Tailhunter is NOT “Cabo Wabo, Squid Roe and Giggling Marlin, rolled into one”....it’s not any of them separately. Then in total arrogance advises, “As best I can remember, Sirena, you weren't anywhere near La Paz four years ago.”....as though she might be mistaken about when they established their fishing business here & later their restaurant! Adding insult to injury, “I just have a bit of a problem with the motif and advertising of the Tailhunter restaurant, as it reminds me way too much of what happened in Cabo.” You might want to actually visit Tailhunter so that you could offer firsthand information, rather than making assumptions based on other places you have been to, apparently found lacking & a glance at their website.

How can someone diss a place they’ve admitted they have never even BEEN to? :?:

Then a bunch of other people jump on the attack wagon from all over the map & after reading all the posts several times trying to figure out just what the hell Sirena said or did to get all this abuse dumped on her, it appears that only one dissee has clearly been a patron; albeit a less than satisfied one! Even the people who have given positive personal experiences are attacked!

• Have I personally been to Tailhunters? Yes
• Have I eaten at Tailhunters? Yes
• How do I feel about the ambiance of Tailhunters? It is NOT neon or garish, trendy or ”cool”, it does not stand out from the surrounding businesses, it’s façade & decor are well-suited to it’s location & theme. Food is good & fairly priced.
• Have I personally met Sirena & Jonathan? Yes and I found each of them to be down-to-earth genuinely nice people.
• Am I a friend, a troll or a paid poster? NO! The opinions expressed are my own, based on my own personal experiences, not their website or the feeding frenzy of attacks here on BN!
• Will I ever volunteer to Sirena or Jonathan I’m a Nomad? Hell no!! I’m ashamed to be associated with all of the people who attacked Sirena & the restaurant!

Are you bashers proud of your actions? Rhetorical question, it’s apparent to me that most of you don’t have a conscience to tell you how inappropriate your words are.

Gnukid, if you honestly feel as strongly as you’ve expressed here, have you ever taken the time to talk directly with Sirena or Jonathan while you’re there, so they could have a chance to rectify your myriad of complaints on the spot? Your posts here have shocked me in both your spoken & implied criticisms, more than any others. I don’t always agree with your posts, but I think you’ve surpassed yourself in blatantly condescending over-the-top rudeness in this thread.

Sirena has shown more class in her responses than the entire group of vultures picking at her combined!

And yes, I've experienced "Laura & the Baja South Band"....several times & love them! The songs & manner in which they're performed instantly transports me back to my teens & early 20's when most of their repertoire first came out! :bounce:

gnukid - 6-11-2011 at 10:22 PM

The quality issues experienced at Tailhunter are probably more simple mistakes, freezing food is a great way to keep things fresh, but if in the process of restaurant work, some people do not understand that you can not allow the food to become defrosted food, then refreeze that food, again, then defrost it and so forth. It becomes mushy and tasteless, or watery-which is among the issues I experienced. This could be a simple process issue with how food is prepared here that is decreasing the quality and flavor, due to basic food management, while other processes such as evening prep and cooking is correct. Could be the fridge or power management is the issue, these are things to look at for Jilly.

We really do want to the place to succeed and be a nice place to bring friends. I hope you take the comments to heart and consider that I am being sincere, I have tried repeatedly to visit, we all talk about the troubles there with food and the bands, that as customers we become very disappointed by poor quality food, especially seafood, and when we spend our hard earned money after a long day of work we just want something that tastes like the thing it supposed to be, not crappy, and when we share La Paz with visitors we hope for a pleasant and enjoyable dinner.

I honestly do not believe the staff is the issue. I am guessing that the top level management or whoever is phoning this one in is the culprit. Perhaps someone is trying to manage a restaurant from offsite, or they are too busy.

I have more ideas, I'll keep 'em coming I really hope this helps Tailhunter become a place that we can go to for reliably healthy tasty food and good service, along with occasional sports and entertainment.

For those who claim to be offended, I apologize, perhaps there is a sense of pride in la Paz, from fantastic options for seafood to great meats and increasingly good vegetables, and an amazing diversity of music and talent, I was offended by my experience. I do work hard, I'm not rich, not sure why people accuse me of being wealthy, perhaps being a worker who enjoys a great cooking and the restaurant experience is the reason I feel strongly about the experiences I have had there.

Whether its my friends who arrive by boat, or by car, kiters, surfers, fisherman, I want them to enjoy the city, I want to go to Tailhunters. I can't tell you how many times I have gone and been unable to eat the food, or the number of times I have said no more, and sat at home when I wanted to go there and enjoy the game and a meal but my previous experience was discouraging.

It's my sincere dream that Tailhunters delivers a great experience and that we pack them in there, so perhaps that is why I have been disappointed by the coconut shrimp, hamburgers, fries, salad, drinks, fish, basics, even the salsa was lackluster.

Not to say many other La Paz restaurants have had unpredictable food and service, we do have a less than consistent clientele which presents a hard problem to solve for restauranteurs. Certainly the fluxuation of visitors is not something to blame on Tailhunter, I wish the place my sincere best and hope that they can remain and become a place we can visit regularly.

[Edited on 6-12-2011 by gnukid]

dtbushpilot - 6-11-2011 at 11:03 PM

Maybe you and all your friends should go somewhere else guu....I doubt that Tailhunter would miss the business.....dt

gnukid - 6-11-2011 at 11:21 PM

Let's say you went to a mechanic for an oil change and they screwed up causing the motor to blow, or you got your house painted but the paint was bad, or you ordered a meal and it was horrible and you felt bad, these types of things in my mind are a failure to complete a contract, verging on criminal and certainly negligent.

As a consumer, and someone who works for every penny I save, I do take pride in clearly communicating to business owners where they failed, especially when it's obviously in the category of services contracted were not delivered as promised.

It's also to my benefit to encourage good businesses and promote them and to communicate poor performance to business that under perform. It's my duty to do so, to my community, and to myself.

I appreciate many awesome places in La Paz and apparently I enjoy a great dinner experience. Perhaps, in this case, the issue is too high of expectations in relation to what is delivered.

I admit, I send thank you cards when service is great, I bring flowers to chefs, I leave large tips whenever it's deserved. The moment that tailhunter steps up to the plate and serves a nice meal and treats people nicely, including it's staff and bands, then the place will be packed and if they will have me I will be there and of course send people there. In the mean time, I can not encourage anyone to risk their health nor risk peace of mind to pay for a poor quality experience with hard earned money.

The responsibility for any restaurant is primarily the responsibility of the owner. I would guess the owner is not hands on yet does not delegate or does not give his full trust and confidence to the manager which results in poor execution and low performance.

[Edited on 6-12-2011 by gnukid]

mtgoat666 - 6-12-2011 at 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by gnukid
Let's say you went to a mechanic for an oil change and they screwed up causing the motor to blow, or you got your house painted but the paint was bad, or you ordered a meal and it was horrible and you felt bad, these types of things in my mind are a failure to complete a contract, verging on criminal and certainly negligent.

these things are "criminal?"

and bad cooking is "negligent?"

a bad paint job is criminal negligence?

bajabass - 6-12-2011 at 06:06 AM

:no:

, ease up people!!! I have been to Tailhunter several times in the past 6 months. Have always had friendly waiters, a pleasant greeting from the hostess downstairs, and better than average sports bar type food. The breakfast there is quite good, the view from the second level is great!

The food business is tough, and Jonathan and Jill seem to be doing a good job, trying to improve, and are nice people to boot!

Different strokes for different folks. If it is not your cup of tea, stay away! There is no reason to trash the place on this forum, or any other. :fire:

wessongroup - 6-12-2011 at 06:34 AM

If ya put up an add .... one must take the good with the bad... just the way the game is played...

Sure it will all work out... either the place does good or __________

Still waiting for some pictures from bass.... or did the old lady kick ya out already... ya Orange County drop out.... :lol:

It's all good... peace out...

oldlady - 6-12-2011 at 07:04 AM

I'm with bass on this one. Sorry you have had a bad experience gnukid.
I don't go to any restaurants all that much, had to do way too much of that in another life. Been to Tailhunter three times, two lunches and a dinner, service was excellent, atmosphere enjoyable and food, always subjective, very good on all visits.

Pacifico - 6-12-2011 at 07:52 AM

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Different strokes for different folks. If it is not your cup of tea, stay away! There is no reason to trash the place on this forum, or any other. :fire:

Well said!!!

oxxo - 6-12-2011 at 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz You might want to actually visit Tailhunter so that you could offer firsthand information, rather than making assumptions based on other places you have been to, apparently found lacking & a glance at their website.

How can someone diss a place they’ve admitted they have never even BEEN to? :?:

In a word, YES, I can diss the place without going there! The owner of Tailhunter came on this forum to promote her establishment. She was the one who first touted her place as No. 1 on Trip Advisor in La Paz. Now some are upset because Tailhunter is not everyone's "cup of tea."

I don't care if they have the best food, the best band, or the best view from the second floor. I object to their immature, demeaning charcature of women as a "piece of tail." This is a reference more appropriate for snickers in a high school boy's locker room. I don't care if it is the name of their restaurant or the name of their fishing boat, most men know what they are referring to - saying it refers to fishing is disengenous (snicker snicker, wink wink). It is like the Happy Endings Cantina and the Pink Kitty names, - an offensive degradation of women.

Now the owner of Tailhunter will next make a post that says that they have the highest regard for women and treat them with respect. And there will be women patrons who will say they have never received any bad vibes there. But it is Sirena herself who said, "Tailhunter, that's who we are."

I don't care if they were the ONLY restaurant in town, I wouldn't eat there. We don't eat out much in La Paz but when do, we chose to spend our money elsewhere. Yes, I know Tailhunter will not miss my patronage, but it is not my cup of tea and I shouldn't be flamed for saying so.

For those who might want to flame me, allow me to do it for you. Yes, I AM an old fuddy-duddy who can't take a harmless joke (snicker snicker, wink wink)........but that is just who I am. I think that women deserve more respect, not less.

Melondeverdad - 6-12-2011 at 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by oxxo

I don't care if they have the best food, the best band, or the best view from the second floor. I object to their immature, demeaning charcature of women as a "piece of tail." This is a reference more appropriate for snickers in a high school boy's locker room. I don't care if it is the name of their restaurant or the name of their fishing boat, most men know what they are referring to - saying it refers to fishing is disengenous (snicker snicker, wink wink). It is like the Happy Endings Cantina and the Pink Kitty names, - an offensive degradation of women.

Now the owner of Tailhunter will next make a post that says that they have the highest regard for women and treat them with respect. And there will be women patrons who will say they have never received any bad vibes there. But it is Sirena herself who said, "Tailhunter, that's who we are."

Thank goodness we have people like Oxxo keeping Mexico safe from double entendres. Definitely this is an important issue for women across this nation.

DENNIS - 6-12-2011 at 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by oxxo
I object to their immature, demeaning charcature of women as a "piece of tail."

I kinda like it myself.

Anyway.....I thought this thread was disintigrating, but it seems to thrive on childishness. Carry on, kids.

Who's going to arrainge for the "Grace Under Fire" plaque to hang on Jilly's wall when all the dust settles?

Jeeeezo....so much unadulterated baloney over nothing.

longlegsinlapaz - 6-12-2011 at 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Sirena
Thank you all for the feedback. It is appreciated. In our defense I would like to clarify a few misconceptions....
Tailhunter as in fish tail and has been the name of the fleet for years. FUBAR is a pull from the war and both have double meanings our fishermen have always gotten a kick out of it. It is who we are so that became the name of the restaurant.

oxxo, as a member of the female of the species, I also deplore comments and/or actions demeaning women....but since Sirena explained (above quote) the origin of their name is derived from fishing, I believe you're stuck on choosing to continue to believe the name somehow demeans women. IMO, it doesn't. If I felt it did or if it offended me, I'd be the first to speak loudly & clearly against it. While I can appreciate & applaud your logic & your views toward respect for women; in this instance; I feel you're off base in your conclusion. Yes, I do understand the meaning of double entendre, but in this particular instance, I believe you're zeroed in & locked on the incorrect possibilities.

For what it's worth, I wasn't speaking only to you personally, I was speaking to a collective group of several posters who'd made it fairly clear that they'd never even been to Tailhunters but felt it was acceptable to publicly diss/trash them with no personal firsthand knowledge or experience.

While I can respect your right to your opinion, I can also respectfully agree to disagree.

Also, I personally place ZERO faith in TripAdvisors rating system, as many here have indicated, it's fraught with self-promoters....of which I personally do not believe Sirena or Jonathan are guilty of. I prefer to make my own decisions on the merit, or lack thereof, of a place based on my own personal assessments....I've never been one to follow the crowd.

DENNIS - 6-12-2011 at 11:23 AM

What is it with TripAdvisor? Are their ratings bought and paid for??

longlegsinlapaz - 6-12-2011 at 12:03 PM

I don't know about "bought & paid for", but the nature of their rating system is based on individuals rating places they've been. Because it's basically a voluntary input system & technically based on the honor system, it leave huge gaps for individual business owners to go in & create their own positive ratings & I personally know of at least one person who has created glowing trip reports on his own establishment. Fortunately (or unfortunately for the property owner), when English is not your first language & people know you & your speech patterns, it's kinda a dead giveaway when the same bad phraseology & misspellings are made in all the positive comments about a particular business.

TripAdvisor has had more than one legal issue about the way their "independent ratings" are generated. Their ratings are, for the most part, highly suspect, if not meaningless in my book & to most of my acquaintances as well.

DENNIS - 6-12-2011 at 12:43 PM

Thanks.....I'll continue to avoid their evaluations.

DianaT - 6-12-2011 at 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by oxxo

In a word, YES, I can diss the place without going there! The owner of Tailhunter came on this forum to promote her establishment.

Just read this thread for the first time and this one sentence jumped out at me. There seems to be a real line drawn around here about promoting one's business. For some it is seen as a good thing, and for others, the person is attacked for doing the same thing. Please, oxxo, this is not solely directed toward you, it is just an observation of what has happened now and before.

But I do agree with longlegs that a review of a place is better if one has been there---and everyone will have a different opinion.

As far as the name of tailhunters, I guess I am not really up on all the current insults towards women because I interpreted the name to mean hunting fish --- yellowtail.

Lots of different perceptions are possible.

Oh, "Sirena" good luck with your business.

[Edited on 6-12-2011 by DianaT]

vandenberg - 6-12-2011 at 01:00 PM

Gnukid's response comes closest to my experience.
Bad food and horrible service. Good place to stay away from.
Of course, as far as I'm concerned, that goes for ALL the Cabo joints also. :biggrin:

[Edited on 6-12-2011 by vandenberg]

I love live music !!

Stickers - 6-12-2011 at 10:21 PM

Never stopped in there on my last brief trip through La Paz but looks like a great place for tourists to sit looking out on the bay and have a cold one.

If there is live music I will be there. I cant get enough and even listen to terrible mariachis if they are playing with heart

:bounce:

flyfishinPam - 6-13-2011 at 07:48 AM

Hey there, I have known Jonathan since I started my business and I remember when he was trying to come up with a catchy name for his operation and came up with "Tailhunter" his logo is a topless mermaid. I like Him and I like Jill and I like fishing. Jonathan came up with the name when he was a single guy, maybe if Jill was part of it a different name would have been chosen, but she came into the scene when it was already established.

I have to say that there is a LOT of sexism in the fishing business. Just look at about any fishing oriented website, like Western Outdoor News for instance. I try to read Robin's reports but there are a couple of boobies jiggling in the sidebar selling something that I cannot tell what it is. A little distracting. Sex sells and generally it is a male oriented sport.

I tried to not go in that direction when I started my operation, because when I did the shows I certainly did feel it. I am not a person who is unaccustomed to being a woman in a man's career either, but it does go over the top on occasion, case in point "Bongos sportfishing" what are they know for? At any rate I felt why alienate 50% of the human population by marketing your product in this way? Maybe that's why i fell into the fly fishing aspect, who knows. But oxxo is right and I am happy that a man is making his comments. Although these things do not bother me I am 46 years old and can handle what I am seeing, but I have an 11 year old daughter and an 8 year old son that I find myself having to explain these things to.

Good luck on the restaurant Jill and Jonathan, I know its a tough business!

DENNIS - 6-13-2011 at 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by flyfishinPam
Sex sells

Yes.......it does.

http://www.baja.com/ENSENADA/nightlife/anthonys/index.html

bajajazz - 6-13-2011 at 08:11 AM

"Tailhunter" is a vulgar name.

Amplified guitar bands do not belong in a residential neighborhood. (Actually, amplified guitar bands don't belong any place, with the possible exception of Hell).

The food at "Tailhunter" is mediocre, unmemorable and never to be recommended.

The wait staff at "Tailhunter" have always been remarkably courteous and friendly.

The views at "Tailhunter" are first-class, disregarding the abomination that has occurred on El Mogote. The rest of the operation should try to live up to the standard set by the views.

I settled in La Paz a quarter of a century ago because the town and its people were friendly, polite and safe. Introducing vulgarisms like "Tailhunter" onto our Malecon is a disservice to the overall cause of civility.

DENNIS - 6-13-2011 at 08:18 AM

Sounds as though the Tailhunter might consider a make-over. It wouldn't be an admission of anything.

mtgoat666 - 6-13-2011 at 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Sounds as though the Tailhunter might consider a make-over. It wouldn't be an admission of anything.

perhaps a Hooters franchise would succeed at that location.

mtgoat666 - 6-13-2011 at 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
I don't know about "bought & paid for", but the nature of their rating system is based on individuals rating places they've been. Because it's basically a voluntary input system & technically based on the honor system, it leave huge gaps for individual business owners to go in & create their own positive ratings & I personally know of at least one person who has created glowing trip reports on his own establishment. Fortunately (or unfortunately for the property owner), when English is not your first language & people know you & your speech patterns, it's kinda a dead giveaway when the same bad phraseology & misspellings are made in all the positive comments about a particular business.

TripAdvisor has had more than one legal issue about the way their "independent ratings" are generated. Their ratings are, for the most part, highly suspect, if not meaningless in my book & to most of my acquaintances as well.

tripadvisor aint bad. you just need to learn how to filter and read the reviews.

tripadvisor is good way to review hotels, but not a particularly good way to review tour providers, attractions or restaurants

Genecag - 6-13-2011 at 09:48 AM

We Love La Paz and are looking forward to making it our home base in the short future.....Currently, we spend a week or two every quarter in La Paz and while there we usually eat out one meal a day.

Over the past 8 years, we have covered most of the resturants in La Paz and we have our favorite few (we - my wife and I).

My wife likes resturants like, Blue Azul, 3 Virgenes, Casa Club at Costa Baja and you can see her style and tastes

We also like Pichilingue, 3 mares, Palermo and all the little places that locals enjoy with names that I cannot remember....

In the beginning, my wife was not a big fan of Tailhunter. She too did not understand the humor and fun in the 'names', the decoration, and the More Male eccentric themes.

English is not my native tongue and neither for my wife as well who is Mexican and I am Korean. Having called USA my home for most of my life and having to learn English as a child, it was hard and took a long time for me to learn all the Idioms, Colloquialisms, double meanings and etc..
As we enjoyed eating our fresh Sashimi, I would try to explain the fun in the meaning of 'TailHunter' and 'Fubar' and why I thought the 'Stone on a string' weather indicator was funny and the 'Tequila will make your clothes fall off' sign always put a smile on my face. And, my wife now thinks it a little (ok very little) funny too...

My wife thought some of it was crude but tried to see it from my side. I told her it was like the saying, 'a bad day of fishing is better than a good day at work'. It's fun and older guys like us are trying to remember the younger days with less responsibility and more time for goofing off.

It's biased since my Wife loves me but she really enjoys the fresh sashimi, fish tacos, the fresh grilled fish, and even the FUBAR Fries while having a nice cold Michalada at Tailhunter.

I like the fact that Tailhunter is open late and instead of cooking something, we can pop there for a quick fish taco. As for the comparison to Cabo, well maybe if you only saw a photo of Tailhunter but if you gave yourself a chance to enjoy the place you would see it is nothing like Cabo.

We have met Jill and Roland and as owners should are always great hosts and makes us feel very welcomed and that they appreciate our business. The four of us even poll danced upstairs and had a great time. People in their 40s should not be poll dancing, LOL and hence happened only once.

Keep up the great job! The last time we were there, the chicken wings and bbq pork ribs were awesome. My wife and I pretend to be 'Novios' when were there and enjoy the setting for what it is.

Hope to see you all there in July!!!

mtgoat666 - 6-13-2011 at 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Genecag
We Love La Paz and are looking forward to making it our home base in the short future.....Currently, we spend a week or two every quarter in La Paz and while there we usually eat out one meal a day.

Over the past 8 years, we have covered most of the resturants in La Paz and we have our favorite few (we - my wife and I).

My wife likes resturants like, Blue Azul, 3 Virgenes, Casa Club at Costa Baja and you can see her style and tastes

after reading your description and why you are fond of the decor,... i think perhaps that the decor at tailhunter/fubar is sort of like a chuck e. cheese for over the hill jocks and frat boys.

Desertbull - 6-13-2011 at 04:10 PM

Wow...Jonathon my man, when they hound you like this you know that you've made it! lol

I've been bringing my friends and clients to La Paz for a very very long time and recently I've been at the TAILHUNTER for food and drinks and it's always been great.

Yes, I'm BIASED because I'm one of Jonathon's first fishing clients from way back in the day while bringing the father-in-law down south to fish. Nonetheless, I'm in La Paz 30 days a year spread out over the entire year and I still keep coming back to wherever Jonathon is because he continues to deliver!

To BajaJazz - Don't like it or the name, don't visit and don't read the signs...I mean its pretty simple eh? Jonathon's biz name has been TailHunter International for a very long time, way before the restaurant deal and I don't see you making it go away to soon-so suck it up.

Desertbull aka Big Tim Sanchez aka-aka "Dirty Sanchez"

[Edited on 6-13-2011 by Desertbull]

Absolutely!

Bajahowodd - 6-13-2011 at 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
What is it with TripAdvisor? Are their ratings bought and paid for??

A few years ago, Jesse's restaurant had their #1 plaque displayed by the entrance. I recall ahving a discussion with him.

Fact is that there have been some pretty shady to awful restaurants and hotels that managed to find their way to the top of the ranking. Even a hotel in La Paz was in the #1 spot for years that many locals will attest, was, shall we say, bathed in scandal.

Anyway, I do agree with goat that properly using your head to filter the written reviews still allows Tripadvisor to be relevant.

We've stayed at a few absolutely wonderful places that had some awful comments written on Tripdavisor.

DENNIS - 6-13-2011 at 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Anyway, I do agree with goat that properly using your head to filter the written reviews still allows Tripadvisor to be relevant.

Jeeeezo.....if you have to interpret the thing, why not just ignore it?

gnukid - 6-13-2011 at 10:18 PM

It's awesome that there are those that appreciate great food and service and those that just enjoy beer. Ordering beer from a bottle and nothing else is a great way to avoid surprises and enjoy the cable TV. But can Jonathan just come out and say why they don't just serve fresh grilled fish and fresh salads! Forget about being offended by chauvinistic attitude, good food isn't offensive to anyone, but bad food and bad service is a nightmare.

Or here's an idea: change the name from Tailhunter to "Jonathan's frozen tv dinner house", "we defrost it right after you arrive! And sometimes we don't!"

oxxo - 6-14-2011 at 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by DianaT
I interpreted the name to mean hunting fish --- yellowtail.

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Originally posted by flyfishinPam
I remember when he was trying to come up with a catchy name for his operation and came up with "Tailhunter" his logo is a topless mermaid.

I get the mental image. Yep, it's all about "hunting fish." I wonder if it's an Asian Mermaid? :light:

[Edited on 6-14-2011 by oxxo]

Genecag - 6-14-2011 at 07:40 AM

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after reading your description and why you are fond of the decor,... i think perhaps that the decor at tailhunter/fubar is sort of like a chuck e. cheese for over the hill jocks and frat boys.

LOL, well if it includes good food, nice people, a fun atmosphere, US sports, a great view of the malecon and bay then you got it right

For Tailhunter, they are more than the quick book cover description....

I heard that Big Yellow Tail upwards of 200 pounds are running around and hope they stick around until July. Hope to see you all there. I'll be the korean guy on the second floor with the hot Blonde :cool:

Genecag - 6-14-2011 at 07:55 AM

One of us always orders the grilled fish and we have always had good experience and we always order the Sashimi to start and about a third of the time they tell us that there were no fresh fish that day and recommend somthing else. Having access to fresh fish on a daily basis, there would be no need for frozen stuff.

Maybe it's expectations, but Tailhunter is a Sports Pub dedicated to Fishing with US and Mexican comfort foods.

I hope you give them another try cause the food is good.

Gene

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Originally posted by gnukid
It's awesome that there are those that appreciate great food and service and those that just enjoy beer. Ordering beer from a bottle and nothing else is a great way to avoid surprises and enjoy the cable TV. But can Jonathan just come out and say why they don't just serve fresh grilled fish and fresh salads! Forget about being offended by chauvinistic attitude, good food isn't offensive to anyone, but bad food and bad service is a nightmare.

Or here's an idea: change the name from Tailhunter to "Jonathan's frozen tv dinner house", "we defrost it right after you arrive! And sometimes we don't!"

DianaT - 6-14-2011 at 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by oxxo

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Originally posted by DianaT
I interpreted the name to mean hunting fish --- yellowtail.

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Originally posted by flyfishinPam
I remember when he was trying to come up with a catchy name for his operation and came up with "Tailhunter" his logo is a topless mermaid.

I get the mental image. Yep, it's all about "hunting fish." I wonder if it's an Asian Mermaid? :light:

[Edited on 6-14-2011 by oxxo]

I guess having never seen their logo made a difference. I now see it differently. Also, I guess I am not up on the latest music and reading about that also changed my mind. I now see it as quite sexist.

Pam also mentioned the sexist nature of a lot of the the sport fishing industry, and probably there are many who like it. We sure see the difference around here between the people who like to fish and the macho fish killers---and that also was a sexist statement. :yes:

But there are the ones who hit Baja and act like hormone engorged 13 year olds.

So maybe their images are appealing to that group----oh well, I have no idea about the food either. I just felt rather bad that when others so freely advertise here, she seemed to be rather quickly attacked.

Hope to check the place out sometime when we are in La Paz---really curious now.

wessongroup - 6-14-2011 at 08:32 AM

shouldn't be much angst about all this... look what happened to Jan's post about "Splash"...

Genecag - 6-14-2011 at 08:56 AM

I am new to Bajanomad and found it when I read the 'Mike Younghusband' story of treking down Baja. Mike, Don-kay and Solo had a great adventure and just reading the thread made me feel a part of their journey. I hope I get enough courage to do something like that myself.

It's funny. Even on Mike's thread, there were these BajaNomad Members that attacked his adventure and claimed it was self serving to cruelty to animals. I think typing in front of a monitor to people without being able to see their face and expressions blinds the person to the emotional content of their message.

I was assured of the 'Vecino' attitude when I read of all the people that opened their homes and resources along the way for Mike and the gang to feed them and provide spare supplies for a fellow Vecino on a journey of his life.

Everyone has a right to their opinions, at least here in the Great USA, and like people saying that 'Tripadviors' has to be filtered so do opinions of people. I have not participated much on these boards since the days of the BBS but I now see that it is important for the Vecinos to stick up for each other and show our support.

Associating Tailhunter with some seedy place in Cabo is ..... well funny.
Claiming that Tailhunter only serves frozen food ..... seems like a competitor
Those that are down on a little self promotion ..... are happy with their salaries.

Keep up the good work Jill and us Vecinos got your back!

Gene

DENNIS - 6-14-2011 at 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by Genecag
It's funny. Even on Mike's thread, there were these BajaNomad Members that attacked his adventure and claimed it was self serving to cruelty to animals. I think typing in front of a monitor to people without being able to see their face and expressions blinds the person to the emotional content of their message.

Everyone has a right to their opinions

What do you do when you arn't contradicting yourself? This ain't no "mutual admiration society" and if one isn't prepared to hear from all sides, he's in the wrong place.

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Associating Tailhunter with some seedy place in Cabo is ..... well funny.
Claiming that Tailhunter only serves frozen food ..... seems like a competitor

You sound like an investor. Your passionate defense is excessive for a new poster making casual comments.
Due to your willingness to suggest how people, in a place new to you, should communicate, I'm starting to dislike everything about this restaurant and admittedly have never been there, nor will I be in the future.

Stay out of the PR business. You'll never make it.

.

[Edited on 6-14-2011 by DENNIS]

Bwana_John - 6-14-2011 at 10:04 AM

Unbiased reviews = Good

Advertisements = Bad

Never ate the food, never experienced the atmosphere, and probably wont with a name like "Tailhunter".

mtgoat666 - 6-14-2011 at 10:11 AM

do local citizens eat at tailhunters? or is it more of a tourist hang out?

how to you translate tailhunters to spanish? i.e. what is spanish slang for ass chasers?

Genecag - 6-14-2011 at 10:28 AM

You are quite right, Dennis. As a newbie, I should have paid more respect to the messages from the regulars.

I am not an investor but I do live a short walk from Tailhunter and consider it a hangout for me (Vecinos). So when people paint a false picture of Tailhunter from the name then I try to add more detail in the hopes that I am helping a neighbor.

I hope you visit Tailhunter for the first time when you are in La Paz and if you get a chance to meet the owners and staff maybe you will have a different outlook.

I am going in early July so if you make it to La Paz, be happy to shake your hand and share a beer.

Cheers and good fishing!

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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What do you do when you arn't contradicting yourself? This ain't no "mutual admiration society" and if one isn't prepared to hear from all sides, he's in the wrong place.

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Associating Tailhunter with some seedy place in Cabo is ..... well funny.
Claiming that Tailhunter only serves frozen food ..... seems like a competitor