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Cuba: Anthony Bourdain of No Reservations - July 11 - The Travel Channel

Ken Cooke - 7-1-2011 at 01:20 PM

Not exactly a Baja-related trip, but Baja travelers love the guy!:bounce:

Oh, program your DVRs for July 11th!:light:







[Edited on 7-1-2011 by Ken Cooke]

[Edited on 7-3-2011 by Ken Cooke]

David K - 7-1-2011 at 01:22 PM

Commie cuisine?

Ken Cooke - 7-1-2011 at 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Commie cuisine?


I have been eating Cuban food for years. You should try it, David!

With Family/friends at the Cuban Restaurant in Corona, CA





mtgoat666 - 7-1-2011 at 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Commie cuisine?


sounds like an ignorant comment you would expect from a ditto head!

bourdain's first book was entertaining.
his TV show is insufferable. he comes across as an arrogant pr1ck, and the show really is sort of boring (most food shows are)






[Edited on 7-1-2011 by mtgoat666]

Ken Cooke - 7-1-2011 at 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Commie cuisine?


sounds like an ignorant comment you would expect from a ditto head!

bourdain's first book was entertaining.
his TV show is insufferable. he comes across as an arrogant pr1ck, and the show really is sort of boring (most food shows are)


I feel that he has a dry, sarcastic sense of humor that you probably don't pick up on. :light: His expose's on Latin America are insightful. Maybe, you should pay closer attention.

Cypress - 7-1-2011 at 02:17 PM

Cubans take offence when they're mistaken for Mexicans.:?:

MMc - 7-1-2011 at 02:26 PM

Tony's show is what it is. He keeps enough people watching to stay on the air. I love Cuban food and will make sure I check out the show.
Is Russian or Chinese food Commie cuisine ? How about east German,or Vietnamese?

mtgoat666 - 7-1-2011 at 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by MMc
Is Russian or Chinese food Commie cuisine ? How about east German,or Vietnamese?


how about Hawaiian (Kenyan) food?

lizard lips - 7-1-2011 at 06:23 PM

Been to Cuba twice and the food is great. I am in Apia Samoa right now and had a Tuna steak dinner last night ----THE BEST I EVER HAD even better than the Tuna I had in Tonga.

toneart - 7-1-2011 at 09:02 PM

I don't know any "Commies"! I am not a "Commie" either, but I have been to Cuba and I love Cuban food! :yes: And cervaza is only one dollar, too.

Only ignorant people who live in fear and have no intellectual curiosity (and probably low IQ) would not put Cuba on their bucket list. :D It was definitely a trip of a lifetime. So unique! The people are kind, intelligent, and they have one of the best school systems in the world.

The music is unparalleled! Afro-Cubano Jazz fusion is the best there is. And to watch them dance....Oh my! Oh, and did I mention the women? Well,I saved desert for last. The Cuban women and Colombian women are truly the MOST beautiful in the world. I can strike that off my bucket list too, and meet my demise with a smile. Oh My! :wow::smug::yes::cool:

Anthony and I share first names as well, and....I am a Foodie!

[Edited on 7-2-2011 by toneart]

Paula - 7-1-2011 at 09:04 PM

Thanks Ken!!

¡Viva Cuba!

Bob H - 7-1-2011 at 09:07 PM

I grew up in Miami, 1952 to 1984.... love great Cuban food, and many of my lifelong friends came over from Cuba. One of my dreams is to take a nice long trip to Cuba some day!

Thanks for the great links! And, Photos!

Ken Cooke - 7-1-2011 at 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
The Cuban women and Colombian women are truly the MOST beautiful in the world. I can strike that off my bucket list too, and meet my demise with a smile. Oh My! :wow::smug::yes::cool:

[Edited on 7-2-2011 by toneart]


I have to second that, Antony! :yes:

Stickers - 7-1-2011 at 11:23 PM

Anthony Bourdain is arrogant, but he is so honest and politically incorrect that I like his shows. The program he did in Haiti after the earthquake was like nothing I have ever seen before. He's got huevos, big time.

AND - I love Cuban food and music. One of the joys of Mexico is getting a chance to see Cuban musicians perform.


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capt. mike - 7-2-2011 at 06:11 AM

Ray in Mulege is from cuba.
his food is great.
Cuban food is wonderful. i can't wait till i can go there too.

Tony Bourdain is a riot. great show.

Cuban jazz is some of the best, look at Ricky Ricardo!

Tommy A - 7-2-2011 at 06:40 AM

Been to Cuba twice, here is a good web that I used to do some research before going there.

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forum.jspa?forumID=14

Marc - 7-2-2011 at 06:50 AM

I have been to Cuba and found the people wonderful. The food I thought was so-so but maybe that was bad luck.
My very vivid memory is new years eve 2001 at the Copa. We were with two very good looking Italian gals and my two buds (way younger than me) were trying their best to score.
The place was filled with mostly Mexicans and they were doing their "hi hi hayee" at the top of their lungs.
We rented a house in the Marinaro district with a cook-house keeper.
I don't have images on my computer. I should dig them up and file a trip report. Partly on how to smuggle cigars.

Roberto - 7-2-2011 at 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by toneart
Only ignorant people who live in fear and have no intellectual curiosity (and probably low IQ) would not put Cuba on their bucket list. :D


Way to show how illuminated and open minded YOU are. Typical attitude of someone with a low IQ, though "if they don't like what I do, they must be stupid, or ...".

Are you for real? Never mind, don't answer that, I know you are.

tripledigitken - 7-2-2011 at 08:13 AM

Tony is arrogant, which is part of his charm. Anyone interested in food should read, "Kitchen Confidential".

Cuban music is magical and is always on my play list.


Rice, beans, porky sandwiches, I want some right now.



:cool:

Ken Cooke - 7-2-2011 at 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by Marc
We rented a house in the Marinaro district with a cook-house keeper.
I don't have images on my computer. I should dig them up and file a trip report. Partly on how to smuggle cigars.


Yes, Marc. You should. :yes:

toneart - 7-2-2011 at 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Roberto
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
Only ignorant people who live in fear and have no intellectual curiosity (and probably low IQ) would not put Cuba on their bucket list. :D


Way to show how illuminated and open minded YOU are. Typical attitude of someone with a low IQ, though "if they don't like what I do, they must be stupid, or ...".

Are you for real? Never mind, don't answer that, I know you are.


Thank you, Einstein!

wessongroup - 7-2-2011 at 10:11 AM

Always enjoyed his show... seemed to end up where most other travel shows do not go.. or even get close... loved the one when he was in Brazil .... and ended up sleeping with the host and others on one bed after having a meal, with drinks and dancing... all inside this lady's home...

Long way from Samatha Brown's idea of travel and eating.. to each their own.. I like getting out with the "people" .... just me ... so this guys show was much more to my own way of traveling... and eating... off taco stand's at 2-3 am... :):)

It all good .... and it all helps... thanks much for the tread....

Roberto - 7-2-2011 at 03:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
Quote:
Originally posted by Roberto
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
Only ignorant people who live in fear and have no intellectual curiosity (and probably low IQ) would not put Cuba on their bucket list. :D


Way to show how illuminated and open minded YOU are. Typical attitude of someone with a low IQ, though "if they don't like what I do, they must be stupid, or ...".

Are you for real? Never mind, don't answer that, I know you are.


Thank you, Einstein!


Any time, genius. :lol::lol:

DENNIS - 7-2-2011 at 04:47 PM

Nice to see you guys getting along. ;)

I Give Up

Gypsy Jan - 7-2-2011 at 05:13 PM

I can't follow the logic of this argument at all.

The only thing that I can conclude is that someone put his cranky pants on today.

BajaBlanca - 7-2-2011 at 05:15 PM

I have never seen Bourdain's show and it looks like I am missing a lot.

I also lived in Miami and LOVE Cuban food and love Cubans - music - family - drinks and smiles. i would love to go to Cuba one day .. it IS on my bucket list.

Ken Cooke - 7-2-2011 at 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
I have never seen Bourdain's show and it looks like I am missing a lot.

I also lived in Miami and LOVE Cuban food and love Cubans - music - family - drinks and smiles. i would love to go to Cuba one day .. it IS on my bucket list.


Blanca, Yes - You are missing an incredible program. Here is a link to give you a taste of the kind of dry humor that is love vs. hate among viewers. If Anthony Bourdain was as sugary as Huell Howser, I doubt he would have the viewership that he can boast.

Enjoy! http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Anthony_Bourdain/Video

To Blanca - Brazil!

Ken Cooke - 7-2-2011 at 05:29 PM





Anthony is a worldly traveler who sometimes uses vulgarities, sarcasm, and does not subscribe to Conservative politics. :!:

[Edited on 7-3-2011 by Ken Cooke]

Anthony Bourdain is Intelligant

Gypsy Jan - 7-2-2011 at 07:25 PM

And Culturally Sensitive

Case in point, he went to Columbia and searched the neighborhoods that were devastated by the drug wars and showcased how they were recovering.

Of course, his attitude may come off as arrogant, but he looks into to the heart of the culture and features this on his show.

Paula - 7-2-2011 at 07:28 PM

Love his books-- now I've seen him--- I adore him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sidamone - 7-2-2011 at 08:52 PM

Ken, how's the Commie Paella at that Corona place?

toneart - 7-2-2011 at 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by Sidamone
Ken, how's the Commie Paella at that Corona place?


Shhhhh! J. Edgar Hoover is tracking Ken from his grave.

Them pesky Commies are conspiring as we speak, in dark cafes, to overthrow the international food movement. That ferreign food sure don't look like meat and potatoes...and that's UnA'mercan!:smug:;):rolleyes:

daveB - 7-2-2011 at 11:30 PM

I enjoy Anthony Bourdain's escapes into the very unusual cuisine he travels far and wide to televise. One episode of note I recall was his eating the heart of a cobra while it was still beating...actually, I've been trying to forget that one! I find him honest and down to earth on his shows which often prove more to highlight the peoples and countries he has brought his entourage into.

Nice photos, Ken.

Hurts some to see China suceed as they have. Makes some of the same folks glad to see Cuba struggle.

wessongroup - 7-3-2011 at 04:17 AM

Another great one, Anthony Bourdain ... in Namibia .. eating with the "Bushmen"..... and a first for Anthony having a hard time with a "meal" ... :o:o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONq6KZD2JYQ

Its three parts... don't know how to it get up as utube.. so ya have to follow a link... one can skip to part three...

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Ken Cooke - 7-3-2011 at 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by Sidamone
Ken, how's the Commie Paella at that Corona place?


It's incredible! :bounce:

My Friend Kenny standing next to my Wife Leidys before going inside for some EXCELLENT food.



Linking to YouTube is my specialty!

Ken Cooke - 7-3-2011 at 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by wessongroup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONq6KZD2JYQ

Its three parts... don't know how to it get up as utube.. so ya have to follow a link... one can skip to part three...

[Edited on 7-3-2011 by wessongroup]



Marc - 7-4-2011 at 09:20 AM

This bottle of Havana Club rum from Cuba is not sold in the US. Bacardi sells a different rum in the US also called Havana Club but it is produced in Puerto Rico.
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Havana Club also has a bar in Havana. This is me the morning after (ten years ago)
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Ken Cooke - 7-4-2011 at 09:40 AM

Marc - I first saw bottles of Havana Club for sale in Colombia, and thought nothing of it (being illegal for sale in the USA). In Bahia de los Angeles, one of the larger markets there sold Havana Club, and it is widely available throughout Baja California. You just can't bring it back across our border.

Havana Club is a Bar in Havana? Wow! I didn't even know that! What an experience to have gone there. Thanks for sharing.

-Ken

Anthony Bourdain weighs in...

Ken Cooke - 7-11-2011 at 12:44 PM

Say what you want about Castro–(we CAN, after all, Cubans not so much)–he managed, through design or neglect, to keep Havana beautiful.
Run down, crumbling, many buildings barely habitable–even the national baseball team has to play during the day because their stadium lights are broken and the country is too poor to fix them. Where things barely work, where time is arrested, where a failed ideology wheezes along on life support long after its inventors and sponsors abandoned it–at least, at least Havana is un-****ed by time. Where Moscow and St Petersburg brim with newly uglified buildings, malls, and the old cookie cutter concrete blocks leftover from the workers’ paradise, Havana looks like a shabbier but still gorgeous version of its older self. When it all changes, as it surely shall, I hope Havana’s waterfront, the malecon, the old hotels, the facades, the Nacional, the Tropicana, the cars–they remain–at least in appearance and design–the same. I’d hate to see fast food signs, the boutique hotels, bottle service, frat bars and canary yellow Lamborginis of the ****** side of Miami. When everybody’s wired and connected and chatting freely, watching 500 channels of cable and voting their minds, I hope the mojitos don’t start coming in sno-cone form, the old neighborhoods dug up for golf courses or water parks.

It’s easy, I know, to over-romanticize the unspoiled. Especially when “unspoiled” means “poor”. But look. Look.

Whatever your politics, however you feel about Cuba–look at tonight’s show and admit, at least, that Havana is beautiful. It is the most beautiful city of Latin America or the Caribbean. Look at the Cuban people and admit that they are proud and big hearted and funny and kind–and strong as hell, having put up with every variety of bullchit over the years. On these things, I hope we can agree.

Posted By: anthony bourdain

Now, MSNBC weighs in!!

Ken Cooke - 7-11-2011 at 12:51 PM

link: http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/11/7044293-an...




By Rebecca Ruiz, Senior editor, msnbc.com

In the season premiere of "No Reservations" airing tonight, host Anthony Bourdain visits Cuba for the first time. He spends the hour falling for Havana's old school charms, from its retro cars and architecture to its passionate baseball fans to its so-called "sleeping" beans, which are eaten only after they've sat overnight.

U.S. tourists who have long dreamed of visiting the communist country should take note. Now that the Obama administration has issued new rules for traveling to Cuba, average Americans can visit the country provided they do so with tour operators that provide educational experiences. (See New rules promise legal Cuba travel for many.)

Bourdain talks to Overhead Bin about highlights − and the politics − of his first trip to the country. "No Reservations" airs this evening at 9 p.m. on the Travel Channel.

Q: You said in the show you expect to get a lot of grief over going to Cuba. Has the hate mail started trickling in?


A: No, but I think I’ve seen some stuff on Facebook. There are Cuban Americans with a zero tolerance policy as far as anything to do with Cuba, as long as any Castro is alive. It is heretical for any American to visit. It is an emotional position that I understand and that I'm sympathetic to, but obviously I went anyway.

Q: For the benefit of your viewers?

A: No, because I wanted to go. I don’t know that I have a lot of virtues, but one of them would be an intense curiosity about the world. I think my expectation is that things are going to be changing in Cuba very soon and I wanted to see it before they did.

Q: Was there anything that you wanted to see firsthand?



An Argentine tourist has his picture taken in a 1956 Buick in Havana.


Q: Is this the most politically charged destination you’ve visited?

A: For some people it’s going to be. I just don’t really care. I’ve been to a lot of countries where we have differences of opinion, to say the least, or bad histories or even places where they see the world very differently than I do. It was not something that I was looking to concentrate on, but at the same time, I was very aware that it was worth mentioning often that Cubans can’t leave Cuba, that they’re not free to say what they want. That even in this incredibly wired age, that Twittering or communicating freely over the Internet are things they can’t do.

Q: Speaking of free expression, what did you make of the legally permitted street corner debates over baseball?

A: I think there’s a lot going on there that I don’t know in the sense that you could argue publicly about baseball, but it’s probably ill-advised to argue about other things, though I do understand that politics do creep into the discussion at times. I wanted to mention repeatedly in the show certain obvious facts about living in Cuba, which is something that other travel show hosts, perhaps, did not do and I think got a lot of grief for it. If you’re eating in a fine dining restaurant it is worth mentioning that chances are, you won’t be seeing any ordinary Cubans there.

Q: You’re infamous for calling people out for idiotic behavior. Did you find any of your experiences in Cuba aggravating?

A: No. We met ordinary people, we met people who had been assigned by a government agency to help us. Right across the board at every level, people were shockingly frank with us as far as how they thought things would go. We were not shy about talking about these things. I get to come back to New York and say whatever the hell I want. The people who were good to us and spoke frankly to us, they have to live there. We’re not looking to hurt anybody with the show.

Q: It looked like you ate well there. What was the best thing you had?

A: I ate some really good food in a high-end tourist restaurant, a Spanish-Basque place, but I have to tell you the "sleeping" beans were really extraordinary. I’m a guy who is very happy with just some good beans and some decent rice, and that was quite good.

Q: Do you feel like the next few years will be transformative for Cuba?

A: I think everybody there is tangibly holding their breath. They know something has to change. Even the noises coming out of Raul Castro − he breached the subject of term limits. Just the fact that he would utter those things in public, it doesn’t mean they’re getting any nicer, but they’re recognizing a changing reality on the ground. It’s not a viable system and I think everybody knows that. People have to struggle and sneak and improvise and that’s what they’ve done their whole lives. How long can that go on when the they know the rest of the world is talking to each other having thousand of conversations?

Q: Some people go to Cuba and fall in love with it like some people fall in love with, for example, New Orleans. Do you feel like Havana has your heart?

A: I feel it has my heart in really significant ways. It’s not my country, where New Orleans is. It’s not my system, whereas New Orleans, for better or worse, is. But it has my heart in the sense that I’ll always care a lot about what happens. I feel interested in what happens and how it works for the Cuban people in ways that I might not care in other places. It’s just so damn beautiful. It’s like Venice or Naples in that sense. All of the things that don’t work, the fact that it is a dysfunctional system … is also what has kept it un-ruined. There’s not a lot of strip malls or the usual buildings you get for being too close to the Soviet Union; they managed to avoid that for the most part in Havana. It’s still beautiful and that’s something.

Q: You spend time with people who know the history, culture and quirks of the place. The most efficient way for most travelers to get the same behind-the-scenes look is to go on expensive guided tours. Is this a waste of money in your mind? Is there a better way to do it?

A: We do a lot of research before we go and we’re looking for local bloggers, people who live there and have a particular interest in what I’m interested in, which is looking at the world through a food-centric view. Also, we’re looking for someone with a sense of humor. Reaching out to local bloggers is always a good thing. There’s somebody, chances are, who has incredible and hyper-nerdly expertise in your area of interest. If you’re talking about a tour of Renaissance art in Florence, it would probably be a good idea. But street food in Vietnam, [go to a] blogger.

Q: Finally, what are the highlights from this season of 'No Reservations'? What did you come home and brag about?

A: Naples was a lot of fun because we were tracking the "Red Sauce" trail. I wanted to know if the Italian food that I grew up eating, does it have any relation to what they’re eating in Naples? I had a really great time doing that show. The Iraqi-Kurdistan episode, I'm really excited about that one, too. It was very beautiful and there was shockingly good food. We had a lot of fun this season.

wessongroup - 7-11-2011 at 03:32 PM

Thanks Mr You Tube... :):)

toneart - 7-11-2011 at 04:05 PM

"I don’t know that I have a lot of virtues, but one of them would be an intense curiosity about the world." -Anthony Bourdain

This is the line that motivates people like Bourdain and me. Those that don't have that "intense curiosity about the world" are missing so much because they are blinded by their lack of imagination and/or their constipated and restricting ideology...or...a low IQ. Having a low IQ is the only excusable excuse. They can't help themselves.

How could you not want to go there? :)

Bajahowodd - 7-11-2011 at 04:29 PM

Gawd!

Tony Bourdain is to me, who also is from New York, a rather typical example of New York abrasveness and swagger that has never played well in the heartland of America.

But, in my opinion, he is incredibly smart and entertaining, as well as being honest.

The refererences to "commie" made on several posts here are merely a witness to arrested development on the part of the posters. It just does not fly.

Truth is that the Cuban-American community, much like the Vietnamese-American community continue to fight the "cold war" that has been long over.

Maybe the US should not have become so entangled in either of these historic battles, but I just checked a calendar, and it says we are in 2011.

Perhaps ther ought to be some form of therapy that could be given to these two immigrant groups so that the US government can stop considering their insane rants in the present day.

Does anyone really believe that communism, despite the fact that a pure version of that concept never happened, is going to be resurgent?

The US has had an incredibly empty-headed policy toward Cuba for many decades merely because a bunch of Cuban refugees took over South Florida's politics.

Whatever You Feel About the Politics

Gypsy Jan - 7-11-2011 at 05:09 PM

Check out these images of Cuba: http://www.commiegirlcollective.com/

toneart - 7-11-2011 at 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Check out these images of Cuba: http://www.commiegirlcollective.com/


Jan, I did check out this website. I liked her photos but found her comments too hard edged. They weren't all that complementary. Her attitude is very Los Angeles; brash, young and trying too hard.

My experience there was much more positive and my conversations with people were delightful. It is true they are not allowed to speak openly on politics. They did whisper though. Most of the population was born after Castro's revolution. They were indoctrinated and acculturated into the system early in school. In spite of their politics and poverty, their schools are very good. They all wear uniforms too.

Almost everybody I talked to candidly whispered that they like the system but they don't like Castro. According to them, he is a despot and the military are the elite. They hoard all the wealth and the people have nothing. The people are given laissee faire to try any business endeavor without much regulation though. For example, if they want to have a small restaurant from their kitchen, or if they want to rent a room to you, they can.

If there is an interest I will write more on Cuba.

Jan, your Mark Twain quote fits right in with what I have been saying in this string. :yes:

Hi, toneart

Gypsy Jan - 7-11-2011 at 08:11 PM

Remember, I said to look at the striking images of this isolated and very misunderstood country.

I apologize if I sent the message that I agree with her comments.

She is a good writer that used to work for the OC Weekly, an alternative newspaper in Orange County, CA.

But, yes, she has an attitude and an aggressive way of expressing herself, but why not? It is her way and my point is that she could not do that in Cuba, at this time.

And she was able to carry these messages and images back to a climate that won't arrest her and throw her in prison.

toneart - 7-11-2011 at 08:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Remember, I said to look at the striking images of this isolated and very misunderstood country.

I apologize if I sent the message that I agree with her comments.

She is a good writer that used to work for the OC Weekly, an alternative newspaper in Orange County, CA.

But, yes, she has an attitude and an aggressive way of expressing herself, but why not? It is her way and my point is that she could not do that in Cuba, at this time.

And she was able to carry these messages and images back to a climate that won't arrest her and throw her in prison.


No, Jan. You did not send the message that you agree with her. I was just giving my revue of her Cuba piece. She probably is a good writer, as you say.

...and I agree with your point.

Mr. Toneart

Gypsy Jan - 7-11-2011 at 09:02 PM

You are a courteous and gracious gentleman.

GJ

Roberto - 7-11-2011 at 11:02 PM

With a superior IQ. :lol:

Ken Cooke - 7-11-2011 at 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Roberto
With a superior IQ. :lol:


Robert - You sure hold grudges. :no:

Cypress - 7-12-2011 at 04:27 AM

After the Castro's are gone Cuba will probably be the #1 tourist destination for millions of Americans.:D

toneart - 7-12-2011 at 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by Roberto
With a superior IQ. :lol:


Roberto,

In spite of your snipes at me, I have been told by a Nomad whom you have met, that you are a nice person. It is obvious that you disagree with some of my posts due to opposing ideology, but I can (and do) overlook that. :light:

wessongroup - 7-12-2011 at 10:46 AM

"If there is an interest I will write more on Cuba."

Please do Tone... :):)

BajaBlanca - 7-12-2011 at 04:27 PM

write on, Tony !!

Bajahowodd - 7-12-2011 at 04:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
After the Castro's are gone Cuba will probably be the #1 tourist destination for millions of Americans.:D


Sorta like before the Castros? There was a time when Havana was among the world destinations to play, like the French Riviera and Acapulco.

Would be nice if that happened.

toneart - 7-12-2011 at 06:01 PM

Wessonman, Blanca, thank you for your requests.

I was in Cuba seven years ago, just before traveling to Mulege and having my casita built. I had always wanted to go there, probably because we are forbidden. Tell me I can't do something and I will find a way to do it. Cuba far exceeded my expectations as to it's beauty and its friendly people.

Being that I was already in San Jose, Costa Rica, I saw a poster in a travel agency window advertising a round trip to Havana, including a week in Havana and two days in Veradero, a beach resort town. The cost, including RT air and a beautiful hotel, was around $425.00. Can you imagine such a price?

The plane was an old Russian Aeroflot jet about the size of a Boeing 747. It now belonged to AeroCubana and was painted with the red and white colors and logo of the company. Shortly after takeoff the cabin started to fill with fog. Condensation was filling the aisles, coming out from under the seats. It became so dense I couldn't see. I got scared. I had never seen a plane do this before. My seatmate told me that it is common with this aircraft, but I thought we were going to die.

After awhile, the fog subsided and I was taken by the frivolity of a Cuban tour group who were headed back home. They were all ages and very well dressed; the men in suits and ties and the women in smart dresses or tailored suits...not high fashion, but smart. They appeared to be business and/or government employees. Their tour guide, an attractive young woman, spent most of the time in the aisle exchanging questions and answers and lots of laughter. Cuban is spoken very fast and there are many idioms that I didn't know. I got the gist of it though.

Veradero Beach was not typical. It is a glossy showcase for tourists with Euros running around in Speedos. (Anthony Weiner must have been inspired by that...ugh!) :lol: I did not like it and was glad to get back to funky, soulful Havana.

As I walked around the city streets and malecons, and took in the sights, many people walked up and lock stepped with me to talk. They thought I was Spanish or Canadian. They hadn't seen or met many Americans. Most countries, except for the U.S., are there getting a foothold in business for when the U.S. embargo breaks. Too bad we aren't! In a way, I really don't want to see it change, but it would be better for the people when it does.

When they found out I am American, they really got interested and were very friendly and curious. Almost everybody wanted to be my guide. I gave that job to one of the bartenders at my hotel.
He asked me what I wanted to see. I told him to take me to a place where Cuban Jazz was featured; not The Copa Cabana! I wanted to go where the people go. Like all poor latinos, they will spend their last peso on having a good time. The currency, by the way, is officially a Cuban Peso, but the actual money that circulates is the U.S. dollar. One peso=one dollar.

I already knew about the music but to be there in an outdoor, tropical, balmy night, to see a live band perform, it was mind blowing! I will talk about this in a subsequent episode.

Later!
Tony :coolup:

Roberto - 7-12-2011 at 06:28 PM

Tone - yes, it's true. I am a nice guy (but keep it to yourself, ok? I have been working on my image on this board for a long time). And, whatever you do, don't tell DENNIS.

For the record, the first was a snipe (I really did find your comment intolerably arrogant), the last was a joke. Sarcasm, humor, all mixed in.

[Edited on 7-13-2011 by Roberto]

Paula - 7-12-2011 at 10:51 PM

Tony thank you for writing about your Cuba experience! All trips to Cuba are unique, and all are amazing! I'm looking forward to hearing more about your evening of jazz there, it must have been something wonderful-- I can only imagine!

I've been twice to Cuba. I'm not so much of a traveler, though I would like to be, and these visits are always bright and clear in my mind. My first trip was in July 1959. I was just 14, and traveling with a friend of my mother's-- a good old University of Chicago liberal (socialist) professor of ethnic studies, or some such, and her 17 year old daughter. We flew from Miami, and we were among the last US tourists in that era. We spent the first two nights at the Havana Riviera, glitzy, elegant, modern and mafia connected. It was booked to capacity, and the other tourists were all Cuban-- from all over-- campesinos who had fought for Fidel and had been brought in for the celebration that was to happen on 26 Julio, the anniversary of the beginning of the revolution. Professor Sophie wanted a more authentic experience, so we moved to a small downtown walk-up hotel-- walk up the stairs and down the corridor to your room. Both places were fascinating, and very different one from the other. Both felt safe and friendly, though we were occasionally spit at on the streets of Havana. We walked all over the city-- Havana en flor de su piel-- so beautiful-- and so very different than the photos by Commie Girl! It was clean refined, elegant, cosmopolitan, and a paradise with orange trees drooping with fruit for the picking on the clean, wide boulevards of Habana centro. I also remember our visit to Morro castle where we were told in graphic detail of the tortures administered to the revolutionary prisoners by the Batista regime. We went out of the city one day by bus, saw a sugar plantation I think, and a c-ck fight in a very small arena. The high point of the trip was of course the 26th. Fidel spoke for hours from a third floor balcony of a tall building, while people danced in huge cirles in th espace below. We were pulled along-- Que fiesta! I knew I would come again to this exotic place, and I waited many years to do so.
Teh second trip was in 2002. It was a legal educational tour, the focus being on social systems-- education, child care, health care, etc. It was bittersweet to see this tortured place again. It really was a sad shadow of all that it had been, or at least had appeared to be. Under Batista life was good-- for those who lived the good life. Not so good for the underclasses. Now things are tough for everyone. The Cuban people don't complain, and the are joyful and resilient. And they have amazing style-- putting together great looks from the bags of used clothes sent from Miami relatives. And they are rightfully proud of all that they achieve, all that they wring from nothing. A friend who is an oncologist shadowed a Cuban doctor through a day at work. This man went home at night to fabricate the tools he needed for surgery the next day, as the hospital has nothing, and he performed life saving miracles. Wooden drying racks line the hospital halls, hung with washed disposable latex gloves. Many of the doctors drive cabs on the weekends to get those American dollars, which were worth much more than Cuban pesos at that time. Doctors earn the same as all Cubans-- nowhere near enough to get by. There were peso stores and dollar stores-- nothing to buy with pesos, but dollars bought soap, toothpaste, food, lightbulbs, etc. I think that has changed now.
So on the tour we stayed in hotels, ate terrible food in hotel restaurants, ate at two paladares (home restaurants) that were slightly better. Cuban cuisine is best experienced in Miami and New York where the ingredients can be found. And every morning we got on the bus, visited a school or a social service office or a day care center, and the incredible psychiatric hospital, and heard about how great things are. And in their way they were. But they could have been so much better if things had just unfolded differently. I could go on and on, but it is late, and I am not so good at writing or typing.

But there is more to say. My Uncle, Ray Brennan, a reporter for the Chicago Sun Times in the 50's and 60's, was among a group of American journalists who spent time by invitation in the Sierra Madre with Fidel and Che early on in the struggle. They had hoped to win the support of the US government. My uncle was impressed with what he saw and learned, and wrote a very idealistic book called "Castro, Cuba and Justice". He told me many stories about his time there. So it is almost genetic that I believe to this day in the revolution, and I think even now that our country took a wrong and tragic turn back then. We have done unspeakable damage. It was heartbreaking to see the results of the course taken by both governments. I feel very deeply for this little tragic, magical place, and it has been hard to process my experiences. I want to go back, but yet I haven't. My daughter wanted me to go with her, and I almost took her up on it. But I said let's go to Oaxaca instead, it's such a happy place, and Cuba is so hard. I think I'm ready now to go again, as it is a place that pulls at you. It just doesn't let go.

One more thing. For many years in Montana we lived across the street from Juan and Betty. After years of not knowing them I learned that Juan was Cuban, maybe in 2001. Betty was a native of the Fathead Valley. Although Juan was in his 60's and had come to the US in 1959, his English was heavily accented, and he always said pero, never but. He was sent to Montana to work in the logging industry, and he did that for many years. Betty told me that he had an altar in the basement, and he spent time down there everyday. He never discussed it with her, and she never asked.

capt. mike - 7-13-2011 at 05:35 AM

have 2 friends going this fall.
i can't wait to go, it won't be long - cuban markets will open and it will be a boom for a while with USA interest.

as soon as it becomes viable the BBPBPI will do a group trip and we all can hop to Cuba from FL in our planes. Way big fun. Diving is said to be pristeen from lack of over use by tourists.

windgrrl - 7-13-2011 at 06:38 PM

Travelled in Cuba in the 80s while occupied by Russians. Dined at the Dupont mansion, Al Capone's villa before the invention of "Cuban cuisine". Windsurfed in Cayo Largo with the best beaches in the entire planet. Got lost (literally) in Havana after the International Jazz Festival. Followed the mountain trail of the revolutionaries in a troop carrier. Purified by a Santeria ceremony ritual. It was a wonderful place with a population proud of it's achievements and heritage. Too bad some of the great stuff will change but change it will.

Bajafun777 - 7-14-2011 at 03:07 PM

Have had several friends go and the blank paper stamped instead of the passport thing happens right, wink! Just really ticks me off that our government can tell us what country we can go into and not. We are letting people go into Communist China every day and give them special concessions but Cuba is the "Big Threat" to us, well I think not.
I will go when it is legal or through one of the college trips offered off and on. It would be my luck if I went with the paper being stamped found out and arrested with a lot of B.S. from the winos,dinos and dingbats that are controlling our government agencies now. Our government should never have the right to tell Americans anytime where we can and cannot go!! Take Care & Travel Safe---------- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777

Parts 1-3 now on BAJA NOMAD!

Ken Cooke - 7-14-2011 at 03:20 PM




::REPEAT!::

Ken Cooke - 7-18-2011 at 03:33 PM

Anthony Bourdain's 'Cuba' episode from 7/11 is airing this afternoon (7/18).

drarroyo - 7-18-2011 at 03:55 PM

anyone who tells you cuban food is great is full of caca. They don't have squat and eat like crap. Most visitors don't get to experience real Cuba.
On a very spontaneous 1 month trip I ran out of money with 6 days left. (Not even the $20 exit fee which had me asking complete strangers in the airport for said fee!)
I ended up staying with a family in the ghettos of Havana. (well ... it's mostly all ghetto per say. Left with an empty suitcase (except underwear & box of cigars having given all my stuff to said family) oh ..and bed bugs from what must have been a 60yr old mattress.)
Amazing people and very bizzare to see such highly educated folks with nothing. (Mama had tears in her eyes when I gave her unpackaged soap bar. WTF)
Their lives are so unstructured. Younguns don't work as it's not worth it. ($25 month)
Got to be in the middle of a large shoulder to shoulder voodoo ceremony which I'll never forget.
Communism is alive but it's not well.
Actually had my US passport stamped ... no problems ... and no drama with cigar box in suitcase!
It's a fascinating place. But don't let anyone fool you that it's some kind of paradise with great food.

wessongroup - 7-18-2011 at 04:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
"I don’t know that I have a lot of virtues, but one of them would be an intense curiosity about the world." -Anthony Bourdain

This is the line that motivates people like Bourdain and me. Those that don't have that "intense curiosity about the world" are missing so much because they are blinded by their lack of imagination and/or their constipated and restricting ideology...or...a low IQ. Having a low IQ is the only excusable excuse. They can't help themselves.

How could you not want to go there? :)


Ditto's here..

Welcome to the real LATIN AMERICA

Ken Cooke - 7-18-2011 at 04:23 PM

Poverty is a part of Latin America that some feel uncomfortable with. Many of the politics there lean left for a reason. Go figure. :light:

Day Laborers waiting for work, trash on the streets, dogs looking for a piece of food - welcome to Peru


But, Peruvian SOUL FOOD is still good!


Colombia is both Rich and Poor.
The road to Santa Marta del Rodadero north from Barranquilla.



The "Street Poor" of Barranquilla, Colombia


Prosperity in Bogota, Colombia



[Edited on 7-18-2011 by Ken Cooke]

wessongroup - 7-18-2011 at 04:27 PM

To each their own.. as the old lady kissed the cow... and I don't mean you know who... :):)

Roberto - 7-18-2011 at 06:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ken Cooke
Poverty is a part of Latin America that some feel uncomfortable with. Many of the politics there lean left for a reason. Go figure. :light:


Has this "left leaning" helped?

Wonderful, Beautiful Images

Gypsy Jan - 7-18-2011 at 06:51 PM

Thank you,

GJ

Ken Cooke - 7-18-2011 at 09:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Roberto
Quote:
Originally posted by Ken Cooke
Poverty is a part of Latin America that some feel uncomfortable with. Many of the politics there lean left for a reason. Go figure. :light:


Has this "left leaning" helped?


You have to ask the people that question. I rented "South Of The Border" for some perspective, although it was overly slanted to the point of being laughable.