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Don't Cut in Line at Tecate.

DianaT - 7-6-2011 at 03:04 PM

Well that is what we assume happened. Yesterday mid-day we waited about 1 1/2 hours in line at Tecate---the end of the line was back on the main street.

When we were much closer we watched the local police remove two gringo cars from the line---as we and others drove around one of them while the police were talking to the driver, we noticed the Baja Nomad bumper sticker. We won't mention the make or color of the vehicle. ;D

We assume that after they left the line, they were headed for the end of the line and it was a very hot day.

This is all based on assumptions----but we could think of no other reason the police pulled them out of line?

DENNIS - 7-6-2011 at 03:17 PM

AwwwwwC'monnnnnnn.....who was it? We won't say anything.

DENNIS - 7-6-2011 at 03:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Yesterday mid-day we waited about 1 1/2 hours in line at Tecate---the end of the line was back on the main street.




I hope that was only because it was the first day after a three day weekend.

mtgoat666 - 7-6-2011 at 03:20 PM

those dang toyota PUs are everywhere!

DianaT - 7-6-2011 at 03:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Yesterday mid-day we waited about 1 1/2 hours in line at Tecate---the end of the line was back on the main street.




I hope that was only because it was the first day after a three day weekend.


Agent there one time told us to avoid returning on all Mexican and US holidays and the day after any of them. Sunday and Mondays are also not the best.

When we saw the end of the line, John turned to me and graciously admitted that he should have listened to me when I suggested we wait one more day before we returned----I just smiled nicely, while silently in my head I was screaming---I TOLD YOU SO!!! I TOLD YOU SO!!! :D :D:dudette:

If it had been a Toyota PU, I would have jumped out and taken 15 pictures! :lol::lol::lol:

[Edited on 7-6-2011 by DianaT]

DENNIS - 7-6-2011 at 04:08 PM

How about a little clue?

DianaT - 7-6-2011 at 04:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
How about a little clue?


It had California license plates. :lol::lol::lol:

Seriously, there will be no more clues---not my job. They may wish to remain under the radar. And besides, I am making assumptions. Maybe they requested the nice policeman pull them out of line so they could stay a little longer in Tecate---maybe have lunch, or find a bathroom, or maybe it was car trouble---lots of possibilities---the driver, however, was not smiling for whatever reason. :D

bajamigo - 7-6-2011 at 04:24 PM

Whoever it was, fess up!

Bajahowodd - 7-6-2011 at 04:29 PM

So maybe as was mentioned, the holiday was the cause of a major back up. However, I have previously suggested that the wonderful improvements to the highway between Ensenada and Tecate would lead to major delays at the fence, in that the Tecate crossing has so few gates available.

Fast crossing

bajaguy - 7-6-2011 at 04:41 PM

Get SENTRI and cross at Otay

DENNIS - 7-6-2011 at 04:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Seriously, there will be no more clues---not my job. They may wish to remain under the radar. And besides, I am making assumptions. Maybe they requested the nice policeman pull them out of line so they could stay a little longer in Tecate---maybe have lunch, or find a bathroom, or maybe it was car trouble---lots of possibilities---the driver, however, was not smiling for whatever reason. :D



OhhhhhPuleeeeze....you're being too kind. You're also denying us our gawd-given right to stand him in front of all assembled Nomads and strip his epaulets from his Hawaiian Shirt.

I really don't care, but I'm surprised a Nomad would cut in line without an extraordinary reason. Other than a medical emergency, I hope that was the case.

.

The Ready Line at Otay

Gypsy Jan - 7-6-2011 at 05:02 PM

We have been crossing to the U.S. once a week for the last couple of weeks.

Today, at mid-afternoon, the Ready lane wait was more than two hours.

I guess, because of the mess at San Ysidro, that is why we witnessed a pretty aggressive amount of line-cutting-in at Otay.

If the police that are stationed there see it, they do pull the vehicle out and send it to the back.

Welcome to summer

DianaT - 7-6-2011 at 05:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Seriously, there will be no more clues---not my job. They may wish to remain under the radar. And besides, I am making assumptions. Maybe they requested the nice policeman pull them out of line so they could stay a little longer in Tecate---maybe have lunch, or find a bathroom, or maybe it was car trouble---lots of possibilities---the driver, however, was not smiling for whatever reason. :D



OhhhhhPuleeeeze....you're being too kind. You're also denying us our gawd-given right to stand him in front of all assembled Nomads and strip his epaulets from his Hawaiian Shirt.

.


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: and for him, the firing squad would surely follow---or at least the verbal firing squad.

Now is there a secret Nomad Code of Honor? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

BajaGringo - 7-6-2011 at 05:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Now is there a secret Nomad Code of Honor? :lol::lol::lol::lol:


Yes.

Never make a dumb move like cutting in line with a BajaNomad bumper sticker showing...

;)

BajaBlanca - 7-6-2011 at 05:24 PM

Diana - we were in asuncion for a little bit today and saw your house that is for sale .... it looks GORGEOUS.

someone buy it.

and invite us over to sit on the front porch. honestly.

and whoever jumped the line ..... ouch !!!! to have to go back to the end of a long line .... sounds like kindergarden, but worse.

DianaT - 7-6-2011 at 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
Diana - we were in asuncion for a little bit today and saw your house that is for sale .... it looks GORGEOUS.

someone buy it.

and invite us over to sit on the front porch. honestly.


Blanca the house may or may not sell---we are serious as there are other projects calling our name, but we also love our place.

And you are invited to come and sit on the front porch any time we are there---it is an open invitation! Come around during the fiesta time---a really fun time in Asuncion.

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaGringo
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Now is there a secret Nomad Code of Honor? :lol::lol::lol::lol:


Yes.

Never make a dumb move like cutting in line with a BajaNomad bumper sticker showing...

;)


:lol::lol: Ah yes as there are members of the Nomad forum lurking everywhere. :lol::lol:

Spearo - 7-6-2011 at 06:57 PM

A couple years ago we were in line at Tecate. As we inchwormed forward a car wedged its way into the spot in front of me. A woman with a couple of kids, Cali plates. Not much I could do, myself and others let her know we weren't pleased. About 15 minutes later a Tecate PD car pulled up and the cops walked over and pulled her out of line. Whether they took her to the back of the line or the station we don't know. The wife and I laughed about that all the way back to Idaho.

Marc - 7-6-2011 at 07:00 PM

I promise not to ever cut in line buying Tecate.;D;D;D

BajaBlanca - 7-6-2011 at 07:11 PM

:lol:

tjBill - 7-6-2011 at 09:12 PM

Another advantage to Sentri, fewer line cutters. More civilized drivers.

DianaT - 7-6-2011 at 09:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tjBill
Another advantage to Sentri, fewer line cutters. More civilized drivers.


My sister tells me that there is another advantage to having a Sentri. When she and her SO returned from Europe, they did not have to go through regular customs. I guess they are good for more than returning from Mexico---we have not looked into them, but may do so.

David K - 7-6-2011 at 10:23 PM

While I only recently added a Nomad sticker (got from Doug at the Mike Younghusband slide show)... it (and all my stickers) is on the back widow and not visible with my truck loaded with camping gear.

As for proper behavior in Mexico, I have been going since I was 16 on my own... and have never had an issue with any law enforcement and I also have enough good manners to not do some of the things that are just mean and unkind.

We were in line at Tecate on Tuesday the 5th, for less than an hour starting at 4:28pm.

It is the miltary searching selected vehicles just before they cross the border into the U.S. at Tecate, not police... This is twice now we have seen the new military 'exit checkpoint' running there.

DianaT - 7-6-2011 at 10:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
While I only recently added a Nomad sticker (got from Doug at the Mike Younghusband slide show)... it (and all my stickers) is on the back widow and not visible with my truck loaded with camping gear.

As for proper behavior in Mexico, I have been going since I was 16 on my own... and have never had an issue with any law enforcement and I also have enough good manners to not do some of the things that are just mean and unkind.

We were in line at Tecate on Tuesday the 5th, for less than an hour starting at 4:28pm.

It is the miltary searching selected vehicles just before they cross the border into the U.S. at Tecate, not police... This is twice now we have seen the new military 'exit checkpoint' running there.


Chill! Did someone accuse you? I don't think so---gees, get past the paranoia. You are still the star Baja Nomad Boy Scout. We very plainly said it was not a Toyota PU involved.

Yes, the military are there right before the crossing, but the vehicles were taken out of line by the local police well before where the military is located. Since the police cannot see all that is happening, we suspect someone is talking.

tjBill - 7-6-2011 at 11:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Quote:
Originally posted by tjBill
Another advantage to Sentri, fewer line cutters. More civilized drivers.


My sister tells me that there is another advantage to having a Sentri. When she and her SO returned from Europe, they did not have to go through regular customs. I guess they are good for more than returning from Mexico---we have not looked into them, but may do so.


I will try that on my trip to the Caribbean. Sometimes the airport customs line can be one hour. Almost missed a connecting flight in Houston.

DianaT - 7-6-2011 at 11:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tjBill
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Quote:
Originally posted by tjBill
Another advantage to Sentri, fewer line cutters. More civilized drivers.


My sister tells me that there is another advantage to having a Sentri. When she and her SO returned from Europe, they did not have to go through regular customs. I guess they are good for more than returning from Mexico---we have not looked into them, but may do so.


I will try that on my trip to the Caribbean. Sometimes the airport customs line can be one hour. Almost missed a connecting flight in Houston.


I am curious to hear from others about this.

mtgoat666 - 7-6-2011 at 11:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
We were in line at Tecate on Tuesday the 5th, for less than an hour starting at 4:28pm.


are you sure is wasn't 4:27 PM?

Bajafun777 - 7-6-2011 at 11:37 PM

With your sentri now you get finger printed by customs again if you request to get the Global Entry stamps on your passport for quicker admit back into USA upon your return from your travels. This may be what your talking about. Now, I have seen people that see the other lane going up the hill open at Tecate thinking they can use that lane and Bam find out no go but too late. So, they beg for cut in or back down the hill. It has been a while since I used Tecate border to exit, so this may not be the case now. Take Care & Travel Safe---- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777

David K - 7-7-2011 at 12:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
We were in line at Tecate on Tuesday the 5th, for less than an hour starting at 4:28pm.


are you sure is wasn't 4:27 PM?


MtGoat, I am quite sure... you see, facts are important to people like me... We don't bite the 'hope and change' hook on 'feelings'.

Yes, I know it wasn't me DT, you are so quick to make fun of any Nomad, but you wished it was a Toyota pickup (besides yours)... and said so. :lol:

mcfez - 7-7-2011 at 05:50 AM

It was me......DENNIS pushed me into the line :lol:

I actually cut into line once upon a time in Mexicali. .....just came in from a side street into the Avenue of the Americans....and geeze wheeze...cars were honking their horns madly and drivers were delivering loads to their diapers. I just edged right on in regardless....cursing back at these fools.......I had no idea at the time that I was bumping in line, for that was my first time exiting Baja. Lucky to be alive!

Oh...goat...this happened at 4:26 p.m.

ncampion - 7-7-2011 at 07:17 AM

OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about 6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy (and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour – fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did (follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know, and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks Diane for giving it the press it deserved.

surfdoc - 7-7-2011 at 07:18 AM

White Chevy Silverado....at 1412 1 hour wait...

But damn still wasn't me...:D

DianaT - 7-7-2011 at 08:24 AM

nchampion----We seriously did not expect anyone to speak up which is why we did not say what the vehicle was. Our purpose for this was just a warning to others as to what can happen and we have seen it happen before. And yes, especially the first time it can be a little confusing. Once you know where that turn is, you immediately notice if the cars are lined up along that road. VERY easy to do what you did.

Glad you told how it happened as a warning to others. Before making that turn, check for a line along the highway. This is just speculation, but since the other two cars were pulled out near where it happened to you, I wonder if they wait until the car is there because of the access to the dirt road back to the highway.

We do think that it must be people reporting others because we saw two other cars also pulled out near the top of the hill --- they probably did the same thing.

But as you said, it is still a far more relaxing crossing even with the extra wait---it is nothing like the insanity that takes place at the Tijuana crossing.

DK---we don't own a Toyota PU.

David K - 7-7-2011 at 08:31 AM

You mean 'anymore'... ?

mtgoat666 - 7-7-2011 at 08:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ncampion
OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about 6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy (and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour – fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did (follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know, and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks Diane for giving it the press it deserved.


so after you knew you were wrong you did not behave properly until told to do so by a cop. you don't respond to shaming, you only respond to govt authority.

sounds like you got what you deserved.

don't try to point fingers at the victim.

SENTRI

bajaguy - 7-7-2011 at 08:57 AM

If I crossed 6 - 8 times a year, I would definately get the SENTRI.....very worth every penny.

SENTRI costs

$122.25 per person x 2 = $244.50
$42.00 vehicle fee
$286.50 total cost

$286.50 divided by 5 (SENTRI is good for 5 years) = $57.30 yr

$57.30 yearly cost divided by 6 (# of crossings per year) = $9.55.............

Wait in line or pay $9.55 for a 15 minute crossing......Priceless

[Edited on 7-7-2011 by bajaguy]

David K - 7-7-2011 at 09:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ncampion
OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about 6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy (and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour – fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did (follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know, and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks Diane for giving it the press it deserved.


Sorry you went through this 'torture' on Nomad after the Tecate screw-up! Some just can't wait to point fingers and act like their way is the only way... You are not the first to follow the signs thinking that left turn leads into its own lane, I am sure. Now, you know to head out towards Mexicali if the line is longer than that intersection. At least you fess up to being the one...

Good to see you at Baja Cactus, by-the-way!

mtgoat666 - 7-7-2011 at 09:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
I actually cut into line once upon a time in Mexicali. ....and geeze wheeze...cars were honking their horns madly and drivers were delivering loads to their diapers. I just edged right on in regardless....cursing back at these fools.......I had no idea at the time that I was bumping in line,


"i had no idea..." sayeth mcpez.

mcpez: didn't the honking clue you in??????????

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Oh...goat...this happened at 4:26 p.m.


i am glad that you and DK are keeping travelogue diaries with ± 1 minute precision. do you calibrate your watch to time.gov? does dk know that his tax dollars pay for time.gov?

ncampion - 7-7-2011 at 09:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
If I crossed 6 - 8 times a year, I would definately get the SENTRI.....very worth every penny.

SENTRI costs

$122.25 per person x 2 = $144.50
$42.00 vehicle fee
$186.50 total cost

$186.50 divided by 5 (SENTRI is good for 5 years) = $37.30 yr

$37.30 yearly cost divided by 6 (# of crossings per year) = $6.21.............

Wait in line or pay $6.21 for a 15 minute crossing......Priceless


Totally agree. Our problem is not with the cost, I would pay 10 times that, but it takes time including an appointment at the border and we are usually only able to be in the US for a couple of weeks or so at a time. We hope to be able to get a pass in Sept. when we will be here for about a month.

ncampion - 7-7-2011 at 09:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
so after you knew you were wrong you did not behave properly until told to do so by a cop. you don't respond to shaming, you only respond to govt authority.

sounds like you got what you deserved.

don't try to point fingers at the victim.


WOW, hope you don't live in a glass house!!!

.

They were just lucky.

Dave - 7-7-2011 at 09:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ncampion
BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did (follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police


I've had the exact thing happen. I think I even posted about it.

Those who regularly cross at Tecate don't tolerate cutting in line, period.

DianaT - 7-7-2011 at 09:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajafun777
With your sentri now you get finger printed by customs again if you request to get the Global Entry stamps on your passport for quicker admit back into USA upon your return from your travels. This may be what your talking about. Now, I have seen people that see the other lane going up the hill open at Tecate thinking they can use that lane and Bam find out no go but too late. So, they beg for cut in or back down the hill. It has been a while since I used Tecate border to exit, so this may not be the case now. Take Care & Travel Safe---- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777


Thanks---now I remember my sister did mention an additional stamp which must have been the Global Entry Stamps. She said it was great. When they flew to the US from Europe, others had to wait in a long line to be processed and they just breezed on through!

mtgoat666 - 7-7-2011 at 09:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ncampion
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
etc etc


WOW, hope you don't live in a glass house!!!

.


nope, wood frame/stucco. :lol::lol:

DianaT - 7-7-2011 at 09:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajahowodd
So maybe as was mentioned, the holiday was the cause of a major back up. However, I have previously suggested that the wonderful improvements to the highway between Ensenada and Tecate would lead to major delays at the fence, in that the Tecate crossing has so few gates available.


The highway gets better and better and there was more traffic on it, but we assumed that was because of the holiday.

Only problem with the highway where they have widened it through the hills before Tecate is that it has almost created another lane that reminds me of the old Highway 99 suicide lane.

The slow trucks pull way over on the shoulder so if the people on the other side of the road are not riding the middle line, there is room to pass. System worked quite well, except with the blind curves, there is always a question as to what is coming the other way and in which part of their lane they are driving.

Beautiful trip through those mountains.

DENNIS - 7-7-2011 at 10:06 AM

I never felt that the improvements to the road would increase traffic to Tecate significantly. It's still contrary to most travelers destination, San Diego, and the winding roads scare off many. The additional distance is still another issue.
I think the crossing will be relatively quiet for some time....at least until SY and OTAY become completely unbearable.

Wasn't Me!!

fixtrauma - 7-7-2011 at 10:14 AM




It is a small world as this thread shows!! I am glad it was fessed up to because I was getting nervous! I sport Baja Nomad but it wasn't me!!

DENNIS - 7-7-2011 at 11:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dave


Those who regularly cross at Tecate don't tolerate cutting in line, period.


Pretty good excercise in Citizenship when a part of society works in concert with the police for the common good.
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Quote:
Originally posted by fixtrauma
It is a small world as this thread shows!! I am glad it was fessed up to because I was getting nervous! I sport Baja Nomad but it wasn't me!!



Who 'fessed up? I didn't see that. You're still a Nomad of interest. :lol:

One thing worst than ......

mcfez - 7-7-2011 at 11:42 AM

You all need to stop complaining about the insane lines. It could had been worst for you.........just imagine if Goat was in the same car with you in that line :o:o:o:o:o:o:o

BajaNomad - 7-7-2011 at 01:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
SENTRI costs

$122.25 per person x 2 = $144.50
$42.00 vehicle fee
$186.50 total cost

$186.50 divided by 5 (SENTRI is good for 5 years) = $37.30 yr

$37.30 yearly cost divided by 6 (# of crossings per year) = $6.21.............

A "do-over" is needed on the math here btw. ;)

bufeo - 7-7-2011 at 01:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaNomad... A "do-over" is needed on the math here btw. ;)


Doug, you are soooo diplomatic. Pity more of your forum users don't practice the same habit. :yes:

Allen R

OOP's

bajaguy - 7-7-2011 at 01:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaNomad
Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
SENTRI costs

$122.25 per person x 2 = $144.50
$42.00 vehicle fee
$186.50 total cost

$186.50 divided by 5 (SENTRI is good for 5 years) = $37.30 yr

$37.30 yearly cost divided by 6 (# of crossings per year) = $6.21.............

A "do-over" is needed on the math here btw. ;)





Corrected...........it's still a bargan!!!!

[Edited on 7-7-2011 by bajaguy]

Dave - 7-7-2011 at 02:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Pretty good excercise in Citizenship when a part of society works in concert with the police for the common good.


Did you ever think you'd make this comment relating to Mexicans or Mexico?

Aren't these the same people who tend to ignore stop signs?

DENNIS - 7-7-2011 at 04:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Did you ever think you'd make this comment relating to Mexicans or Mexico?

Aren't these the same people who tend to ignore stop signs?


"Hope springs eternal"

It coulda' been us!

John M - 7-7-2011 at 05:58 PM

I was hoping to keep this secret but with guilt I have been feeling from reading this thread I can no longer be silent.

We cut in line at Tecate on our return a couple of months ago. We now feel so guilt-ridden that we are truly contemplating driving back to the crossing, cutting in line again, then taking ourselves out of line and going to the back of the line. Perhaps it was because we got in line at exactly 2:43 p.m. that our criminal behavior went unnoticed.

We do feel somewhat better copping out, but still I think we need to do more; maybe take ourselves out of line twice?

Or perhaps seek some sort of professional therapy...

We solemly promise to do something.

John & Barbara

DianaT - 7-7-2011 at 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by John M
I was hoping to keep this secret but with guilt I have been feeling from reading this thread I can no longer be silent.

We cut in line at Tecate on our return a couple of months ago. We now feel so guilt-ridden that we are truly contemplating driving back to the crossing, cutting in line again, then taking ourselves out of line and going to the back of the line. Perhaps it was because we got in line at exactly 2:43 p.m. that our criminal behavior went unnoticed.

We do feel somewhat better copping out, but still I think we need to do more; maybe take ourselves out of line twice?

Or perhaps seek some sort of professional therapy...

We solemly promise to do something.

John & Barbara


Maybe throw yourselves into some stocks on the public square in Tecate for a day or two---that should cure your guilt.

Depreator - 7-8-2011 at 07:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ncampion
OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about 6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy (and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour – fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did (follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know, and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks Diane for giving it the press it deserved.

I can assure you if it is a Mexican national doing the cutting in line it gets ignored. I am a sentri memeber and I cross at San Ysidro and cutting in line is out of control at this crossing and most of the time the police do nothing, unless a mexican complains, then oh look out, if an american traveler makes a complaint about a mexican vehicle cutting nothing and i mean nothing is done. I have seen this with my own eyes. Thank god for Sentri

elgatoloco - 7-8-2011 at 07:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Depreator
Quote:
Originally posted by ncampion
OK, I’ll fess up, however you also get to hear the full story. As we live more or less full time in Loreto, we travel back and forth to the US about 6 – 8 times a year. I don’t so much mind the drive, I actually like the solitude and beauty of the Baja peninsula, but I absolutely dread the lengthy (and getting worse) wait to cross the border. Our actual time at the booth is about 30 seconds after waiting two hours or more! So on this trip North we decided to heed the advice of several Nomads and drive the little extra distance and cross at Tecate instead of our usual SY or Otay crossing. Since we have never done this before, we were navigating through Tecate carefully watching for the “Border Crossing” signs. Actually the signage was pretty good and we had no trouble finding our way. We finally came to the line leading up the hill to the border and saw a “Border Crossing” sign indicating that we should turn left, which we did and merged in front of a white car with CA plates. I guess it is true that we “cut in line” as there were 4 or 5 cars in line around the corner from where we made the left turn. The young girl driving the white car stood on her horn for about five minutes as if this was a life or death situation. About 40 minutes later, at the top of the hill, a Mexican cop approaches, talks to the white car a minute then comes up to our car and tells us the since we cut in line we would have to return to the end of the line. He was very polite and we told him our story about following the signs, but he said, “…his superior says we must go to the end of the line.” In fairness, I offered to wait here for 10 – 15 cars to go by, but that was not acceptable and we did pull out of line and go to the end of the line. So the hour – fifteen minute wait turned out to be two hours for us. So yes, we were “guilty” of cutting in line, although unintentionally. I’ve certainly seen much more blatant line cutting at both SY and Otay every time we cross there. I think it was very petty for this young girl to actually call 066 and have us pulled out of line. BTW, while we were waiting in line (for the second time) we witnessed two other vehicles make the same mistake we did (follow the signs) and get in line ahead of a few other cars, but no one felt compelled to call the police and “have justice served.” OK, now I know, and overall, it was more relaxing crossing at Tecate than the other alternatives. Now you know who the guilty party is and the full story, thanks Diane for giving it the press it deserved.

I can assure you if it is a Mexican national doing the cutting in line it gets ignored. I am a sentri memeber and I cross at San Ysidro and cutting in line is out of control at this crossing and most of the time the police do nothing, unless a mexican complains, then oh look out, if an american traveler makes a complaint about a mexican vehicle cutting nothing and i mean nothing is done. I have seen this with my own eyes. Thank god for Sentri


Next time flip the cop a twenty? :lol:

Dave - 7-8-2011 at 08:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Depreator
I can assure you if it is a Mexican national doing the cutting in line it gets ignored. I am a sentri memeber and I cross at San Ysidro and cutting in line is out of control at this crossing and most of the time the police do nothing, unless a mexican complains, then oh look out, if an american traveler makes a complaint about a mexican vehicle cutting nothing and i mean nothing is done. I have seen this with my own eyes. Thank god for Sentri


And I can assure you that you are wrong.

Protocol at San Ysidro and Tecate are completely opposite.

1. I have and will continue to cut in/out at SY where it is accepted and commonplace. For instance, I always use the SENTRI lane when riding my motorcycle.

2. Regardless of nationality it is not tolerated at Tecate and I have consistently witnessed the police discipline drivers from either country.

[Edited on 7-9-2011 by Dave]

DENNIS - 7-8-2011 at 08:41 PM

Agree with Dave. SY is a bowel movement of ugly humanity and nothing will surprise me.
On the other hand, Tecate is self-regulating and people turn on the offenders.
It's a world apart.

Depreator - 7-9-2011 at 01:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Quote:
Originally posted by Depreator
I can assure you if it is a Mexican national doing the cutting in line it gets ignored. I am a sentri memeber and I cross at San Ysidro and cutting in line is out of control at this crossing and most of the time the police do nothing, unless a mexican complains, then oh look out, if an american traveler makes a complaint about a mexican vehicle cutting nothing and i mean nothing is done. I have seen this with my own eyes. Thank god for Sentri


And I can assure you that you are wrong.

Protocol at San Ysidro and Tecate are completely opposite.

1. I have and will continue to cut in/out at SY where it is accepted and commonplace. For instance, I always use the SENTRI lane when riding my motorcycle.

2. Regardless of nationality it is not tolerated at Tecate and I have consistently witnessed the police discipline drivers from either country.

[Edited on 7-9-2011 by Dave]


Sorry Dave, I was not talking about Tecate, Sorry if you took it that way. My examples were the San Ysidro crossing. Motorcycles on the east side of the port are not and never are a problem. I am refering to all the vehicle traffic that comes from Centro or down town. Right before you get to the bridges and overpasses people attempt to cut in from all the side streets that conect to Juarez instead of going to the rear and waiting like all other respectful people. That was the point I was attempting to make. But I'm in the Sentri program and with the way the ports of entry are getting I would pay much more then what we currently pay.

Neal Johns - 7-9-2011 at 09:15 AM

re John M,
Having known this man for many years, nothing he does surprises me anymore. His only redeeming feature is his long suffering wife (who is one of my WiW's. :lol::lol::lol:

Avoid him at all costs.;D

KASHEYDOG - 7-9-2011 at 12:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by John M
I was hoping to keep this secret but with guilt I have been feeling from reading this thread I can no longer be silent.

We cut in line at Tecate on our return a couple of months ago. We now feel so guilt-ridden that we are truly contemplating driving back to the crossing, cutting in line again, then taking ourselves out of line and going to the back of the line. Perhaps it was because we got in line at exactly 2:43 p.m. that our criminal behavior went unnoticed.

We do feel somewhat better copping out, but still I think we need to do more; maybe take ourselves out of line twice?

Or perhaps seek some sort of professional therapy...

We solemly promise to do something.

John & Barbara



Ok... I'm going to start group meetings for "Border Line Cutters Anonymous". Better known as "BLCA". The first BLCA meeting will be held this coming Monday. Meetings will be mandatory for all admitted "Cutters" and will be held every Monday, Wednesday and Friday evenings in Tecate at the Brewery at 2:37 AM and don't be late :fire:. Meetings will cover 1) What is a line. 2) What does the end of a line look like and 3) how to get in line properly. We will also give assistance on how to get your Sentri Pass for a nominal fee of $153.87, cash only accepted. For those of you who feel the guilt and the need please sign in on the sign up sheet posted on the Tecate Brewery entrance immediately...:lol:..:lol:..:P









[Edited on 7-9-11 by KASHEYDOG]

Kashey

bajaguy - 7-9-2011 at 12:33 PM

K-Dog...............

Just remember, the only easy day was yesterday................

KASHEYDOG - 7-9-2011 at 12:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
K-Dog...............

Just remember, the only easy day was yesterday................


Hey Terry!! You want to be my first instructor ?? You'd be great..:yes:
I don't know about you, but my days are getting easier all the time..:tumble:..:spingrin:

bajaguy - 7-9-2011 at 01:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
Hey Terry!! You want to be my first instructor ?? You'd be great..:yes:

I don't know about you, but my days are getting easier all the time..:tumble:..:spingrin:






Sign me up!!!