BajaNomad - Prodigy Internet Blocking U.S. Websites?

Prodigy Internet Blocking U.S. Websites?

BajaBruno - 7-14-2011 at 10:30 PM

In my recent experience trying to link photos from my website to Nomads, we all found out that many (all?) Prodigy Infinitum users could not access the link. It did not seem to be a problem for Mexican ISP's other than Telmex. I asked a Nomad in La Paz to do a Traceroute on my website, which shows each node that the signal travels through on its way from La Paz to the U.S.

The Traceroute showed that the signal died long before it got to the U.S. My hosting company took the Traceroute info and sent me this:

"From looking over the ping and trace route you provided us from your friend/customer in Mexico, it looks like a Mexican ISP is doing the blocking, not us. If you go to Maxmind.com, a site for checking the location of IPs, and enter the ip listed in the trace route, in this case 200.38.193.226, and submit it, you'll see the owner of the IP is

Uninet S. A. de C.V. located in Santa Apolonia Mexico.

They're stopping him at hop 2, with hop 1 being his home computer/network. . If we were blocking him, the trace route would make it to a webhostinghub.com server before getting a "Request timed out" message. He will need to speak to his ISP and inquire on why they're blocking him from accessing us as we would not be able to do anything in that regard."

I know Prodigy users can access the U.S., so I really don't know why my website, or my hosting company are blocked.

So, after that long-winded introduction, my question is: are there other websites that Prodigy users cannot access? Can we find a pattern with this problem?

tjBill - 7-14-2011 at 11:07 PM

I have never heard of Prodigy blocking US Websites.

Which specific website are you having problems with?

Many US websites do not allow sites with foreign IP addresses access parts of their sites. Like videos on Hula and Univision.

bajajudy - 7-15-2011 at 06:12 AM

The only problem I have had is US web sites blocking news videos to Mexico.

longlegsinlapaz - 7-15-2011 at 11:29 AM

Yup, Lencho, his friend certainly could....if she were provided with a URL(s) to trace. :biggrin:

longlegsinlapaz - 7-15-2011 at 04:15 PM

Sorry!!! I was sleeping at the switch (aka not logged on here!) I did ping & tracert for both sites, just so Lencho will have data to compare....like I know what I'm talking about! :lol:

H:\Documents and Settings\Legs>ping packetexchange.net

Pinging packetexchange.net [64.235.225.51] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 64.235.225.51: bytes=32 time=198ms TTL=54
Reply from 64.235.225.51: bytes=32 time=242ms TTL=54
Reply from 64.235.225.51: bytes=32 time=257ms TTL=54
Reply from 64.235.225.51: bytes=32 time=225ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 64.235.225.51:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 198ms, Maximum = 257ms, Average = 230ms

H:\Documents and Settings\Legs>tracert packetexchange.net

Tracing route to packetexchange.net [64.235.225.51]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 4 ms 5 ms 5 ms home [XXXXX]
2 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms net.mx [XXXXX]

3 83 ms 82 ms 83 ms bb-dallas-stemmons-4-pos0-2-0-0.net.mx [2
01.125.73.242]
4 124 ms 86 ms 89 ms xe-10-2-0.bar1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.78.14.5]
5 91 ms 88 ms 88 ms ae-13-13.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.137.138]

6 88 ms 100 ms 87 ms ae-91-91.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.151.161]

7 88 ms 86 ms 90 ms ae-93-93.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.151.170]

8 119 ms 118 ms 118 ms ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.132.77]

9 118 ms 122 ms 125 ms ae-72-72.csw2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.2
2]
10 122 ms 138 ms 122 ms ae-2-70.edge3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.7
3]
11 129 ms 130 ms 120 ms cr1.lax1.us.packetexchange.net [4.71.136.2]
12 123 ms 122 ms 122 ms www.packetexchange.net [64.235.225.51]

Trace complete.

H:\Documents and Settings\Legs>ping desksgt.com

Pinging desksgt.com [173.205.127.123] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 173.205.127.123:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

H:\Documents and Settings\Legs>tracert desksgt.com

Tracing route to desksgt.com [173.205.127.123]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 5 ms 7 ms home [XXXXX]
2 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms net.mx [XXXXX]

3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 ^C
H:\Documents and Settings\Legs>tracert www.packetexchange.net

Tracing route to www.packetexchange.net [67.220.131.91]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 5 ms 4 ms 5 ms home [XXXXX]
2 14 ms 14 ms 25 ms net.mx [XXXXX]

3 84 ms 82 ms 84 ms bb-dallas-stemmons-4-pos0-15-3-0.uninet.net.mx
[XXXXX]
4 89 ms 95 ms 88 ms xe-10-2-0.bar1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.78.14.5]
5 89 ms 88 ms 88 ms ae-13-13.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.137.138]

6 85 ms 86 ms 102 ms ae-71-71.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.151.137]

7 91 ms 90 ms 87 ms ae-72-72.ebr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.151.142]

8 103 ms 102 ms 101 ms ae-2-2.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.105]
9 186 ms 215 ms 251 ms ae-12-51.car2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.147.68]
10 103 ms 102 ms 101 ms WBS-CONNECT.car2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.53.2.82]

11 106 ms 101 ms 103 ms 67.220.131.91
12 ^C

On Edit: PS....I was able to open the packetexhange site, no problem! :spingrin:

[Edited on 7-15-2011 by longlegsinlapaz]

[Edited on 7-15-2011 by longlegsinlapaz]

[Edited on 7-16-2011 by longlegsinlapaz]

BajaBruno - 7-15-2011 at 05:20 PM

Lencho, the Traceroute data is in the first post. Legs' packet made it to Uninet S. A. de C.V. located in Santa Apolonia Mexico and was killed there.

Further, Nomad honcho Doug believes that all of the Nomads who reported not being to reach the site were Telmex/Infinitum users. Other Mexican ISPs apparently had no trouble, according to my web data.

That seems pretty conclusive to my little mind, but I'll wait for you to concede!

longlegsinlapaz - 7-15-2011 at 05:21 PM

Lencho....check U2U por favor.

longlegsinlapaz - 7-15-2011 at 05:28 PM

And yes....I'm still on satellite from my casa to a second satellite in El Centenario, across the bay either to a 3rd satellite dish to direct to Telmex....as you know, Morgaine is direct landline. On the original thread, you did catch the fact that someone (rhintransit?) turned on an IP hider & was able to access Bruno's site?

comitan - 7-15-2011 at 06:08 PM

More to add I'm on Telcel Modem, From Los Angeles (dreamhost) and I could not load pictures.

BajaBruno - 7-15-2011 at 11:02 PM

Lencho, not the same Santa Apolonia--this is a specific router located in a specific place in Tabasco. The packet did leave Baja and was killed on the mainland.

See: http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_demo_ip?ips=200.38.193.226

longlegsinlapaz - 7-16-2011 at 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
On the original thread, you did catch the fact that someone (rhintransit?) turned on an IP hider & was able to access Bruno's site?

¿Original thread?

That's what I get for being lazy & not going back to get the other URL to direct you to it when I initially mentioned it! :saint:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=54028&page=3

rhintransit - posted on 7-14-2011 at 03:45 AM

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 06:54 AM

This thread should be in the Foreign Language Forum. :?:

Marc - 7-16-2011 at 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
This thread should be in the Foreign Language Forum. :?:

Our very own Geek Squad :?:

woody with a view - 7-16-2011 at 07:05 AM

i guess we can all be divided into groups..... 0's and 1's. :rolleyes:

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marc
Our very own Geek Squad :?:

Must have something to do with the water in La Paz. :light:

BajaBlanca - 7-16-2011 at 08:34 AM

I posted on another thread as I need a solution to this problem, but for the first time ever, we can not access US sites either ....and we have infinitum.

Bajajorge - 7-16-2011 at 08:37 AM

:no:

Haven't noticed Prodigy blocking websites, but I do remember a couple of years ago Telcel used to block some calls from gringo cell phones to numbers in the US. :mad:

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
This thread should be in the Foreign Language Forum. :?:

And break the chronic silence over there?

It's a venue for schizophrenics. They're never alone and can have discussions without being heard.

wessongroup - 7-16-2011 at 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
This thread should be in the Foreign Language Forum. :?:

And break the chronic silence over there?

MitchMan - 7-16-2011 at 12:17 PM

Forgive my massive ignorance, but does any of this stuff have to do with the fact that, while in La Paz using a public internet wireless connection to the internet at an internet cafe, I can't get the the English speaking yahoo.com website but instead get rerouted (redirected) to the Mexican (Spanish language) yahoo website instead?

[Edited on 7-16-2011 by MitchMan]

DENNIS - 7-16-2011 at 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Hold up ten fingers,

I only have eight.

comitan - 7-16-2011 at 02:17 PM

:lol:

BajaBruno - 7-17-2011 at 05:30 PM

lencho, now you're just being obstinate and ignoring reality. Do you have stock in Telmex, I ask only half jokingly?

bufeo - 7-18-2011 at 08:32 AM

I have pinging in my ears constantly. Does this mean I have a direct connection to the internet? And, sometimes, usually around c-cktail hour or immediately thereafter, I get these little 'I's and 'O's in my eyes. Most of the time I dismiss them as "floaters", but???? Maybe next time (this evening) I should check out my IP.*

Allen R.

*Intoxicant Proportions